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Summary
Augustine's Contra Epistulam Parmeniani (c. 400 CE) is a polemical letter responding to the Donatist bishop Parmenian. Written during the Donatist controversy, it defends Catholic positions on baptism and church unity through theological argument and exegesis. The work survives in manuscripts from the 9th century onward, with the CSEL edition (1908) as the standard critical text. It was later cited by medieval canonists, including Gratian's Decretum, on the validity of sacraments from heretical ministers. Augustine's arguments are context-specific and do not necessarily reflect his final views.
Contra Epistulam Parmeniani is a key text in the Donatist controversy, shaping later Catholic ecclesiology and sacramental theology. It was cited by medieval canonists, notably in Gratian's Decretum, as a source on the validity of sacraments from heretical ministers. The work also preserves fragments of Parmenian's lost letter and Tychonius's views, offering insight into Donatist internal debates.
Historical context
Augustine wrote Contra Epistulam Parmeniani around 400 CE in Roman North Africa, during the height of the Donatist controversy. The Donatist church, which had split from the Catholic communion over the consecration of Caecilian of Carthage (312 CE), maintained that sacraments administered by traditores (those who had handed over scriptures during persecution) were invalid. Parmenian, Donatist bishop of Carthage (c. 362–391), had written a letter to the Donatist theologian Tychonius, now lost, which Augustine here refutes. The work is part of Augustine's broader anti-Donatist corpus, which includes treatises like De Baptismo and letters to Donatist leaders. The text survives in multiple medieval manuscripts, the earliest from the 9th century, transmitted through Carolingian scriptoria. The CSEL edition (1908) remains the standard critical edition, though it lacks a full apparatus of variant readings.
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Interim uideamus, ne forte non frustra non dixerit apostolus: 'auferte malos a congregatione uestra', sed: auferte malum a uobis ipsis, quia et, cum quisque impeditur ab ecclesiae congregatione malos homines separare, si a se ipso auferat malum, non eis corde miscetur atque ita spiritaliter non solum coniungitur bonis, sed etiam separatur a malis. sicut enim in illo loco ad Timotheum cum dixisset: neque communicaueris peccatis alienis, tamquam ille diceret fieri posse, ut aliquos malos ab ecclesiae congregatione separare non posset et ideo tolerare cogeretur, tamquam consilium dans, quemadmodum peccatis eorum non communicaret, te ipsum, inquit, castum custodi - non enim malis nisi malus misceri potest, bonus autem nullo modo, quamuis in una cum eis congregatione uersetur —, ita et hic ad Corinthios cum dixisset: quo enim mihi de his qui foris sunt iudicare?
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Let us meanwhile consider whether it may not be for a reason that the apostle did not say: “Remove the wicked from your congregation,” but: “Remove evil from yourselves,” because, even when someone is prevented from separating wicked men from the church’s congregation, if he removes evil from himself, he is not mingled with them in heart, and thus spiritually he is not only joined to the good, but also separated from the wicked. For just as in that passage to Timothy, when he had said: “And you shall not share in the sins of others,” as though that man were saying that it could happen that he could not separate some wicked men from the church’s congregation and therefore would be compelled to tolerate them, giving counsel, as it were, as to how he would not share in their sins, he says: “Keep yourself chaste”—for a wicked man can be mingled only with a wicked man, but a good man in no way, even though he moves in the same congregation with them—so also here to the Corinthians, when he had said: “For what have I to do with judging those who are outside?
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nonne de his qui intus sunt uos iudicatis?, ne forte turbarentur aliqua malorum numerositate sic permixta frumentis, ut sine illorum uexatione colligi separarique non posset, auferte, inquit, malum ex uobis ipsis, ut, si forte non possent auferre malos a congregatione sua, auferendo malum ex se ipsis, id est non cum eis peccando nec eis ad peccandum consentiendo aut fauendo, integerrimi inter eos et incorruptissimi uersarentur, quia per malum suum malis quisque consentit, si autem a se ipso auferat malum, alieno malo non est unde consentiat. quapropter quisquis etiam contempserit ecclesiae disciplinam, ut malos cum quibus non peccat et quibus non fauet desistat monere corripere arguere, etsi talem personam gerit et pax ecclesiae patitur etiam a sacramentorum participatione separare, non alieno malo peccat sed suo. ipsa quippe in tanta re neglegentia graue malum est. et ideo, sicut apostolus monet, si auferat malum a se ipso, non solum auferet audaciam committendi aut pestilentiam consentiendi, sed etiam pigritiam corrigendi et neglegentiam uindicandi adhibita prudentia et oboedientia in eo quod praecepit dominus, ne frumenta laedantur. ea quippe intentione quisquis inter triticum zizania tolerauerit auferendo malum a semet ipso, nec eis communicat et ea distinguit ac iudicat interim ad diem. non enim nouit quod cras futurum est.
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Do you not judge those who are within? Lest they be disturbed by some multitude of evils so mixed with the grains that they could not be gathered and separated without disturbing them, he says: "Remove evil from yourselves," so that, if perhaps they could not remove the wicked from their congregation, by removing evil from themselves—that is, by not sinning with them nor consenting to or favoring their sinning—they might dwell among them most blamelessly and incorruptibly, because each person consents to evils through his own evil; but if he removes evil from himself, there is no ground on which he can consent to another's evil. Therefore, whoever also despises the discipline of the Church, so that he ceases to warn, rebuke, and reprove the wicked with whom he does not sin and whom he does not favor—even if he holds such a position and the peace of the Church permits separating them even from participation in the sacraments—does not sin by another's evil but by his own. For negligence itself in so great a matter is a grave evil. And so, as the apostle advises, if he removes evil from himself, he will not only remove the audacity of committing or the pestilence of consenting, but also the laziness of correcting and the negligence of punishing, by employing prudence and obedience in what the Lord commanded, lest the grains be harmed. For with that intention, whoever tolerates tares among the wheat, by removing evil from himself, neither communicates with them nor distinguishes and judges them in the meantime until the day. For he does not know what tomorrow will bring.
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et ideo dilectione seruata non sine spe correctionis uindicandum est quidquid etiam cogit necessaria seueritas uindicari. quod ut satis appareat, totum ipsum epistulae apostolicae locum diligentius retractemus.
Quid uultis, inquit? in uirga ueniam ad uos an in caritate spiritus mansuetudinis? iam hic apparet eum de uindicta loqui, ad cuius significationem uirgam nominauit. numquid tamen et uirga sine caritate est, quia ita contexuit: in uirga ueniam ad uos an in caritate? sed quod sequitur 'spiritus mansuetudinis' ammonet intellegi, quia et uirga caritatem habet. sed aliud est caritas seueritatis, aliud caritas mansuetudinis. una quidem caritas est, sed diuersa in diuersis operatur. omnino, inquit, auditur in uobis fornicatio, et talis fornicatio qualis nec in gentibus, ita ut uxorem patris sui quis habeat. de tam immani facto uideamus quemadmodum eos saeuire praecipiat. et uos, inquit, inflati estis et non potius luctum habuistis, ut tolleretur de medio uestrum qui hoc opus fecit. quare (luctum) potius et non iram, nisi quia si patitur unum membrum compatiuntur omnia membra? et non 'luctum quia tollebatur,' sed luctum, inquit, ut tolleretur, id est ut lugentium dolor ad deum ascenderet et ipse illum qui hoc opus fecit tolleret de medio eorum, sicut ipse sciret, ne forte illi per humanam imperitiam eradicarent simul et triticum.
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And therefore, with love preserved, whatever even necessary severity compels to be avenged must be avenged, not without hope of correction. So that this may appear clearly enough, let us examine the entire passage of the apostolic epistle more carefully.
"What do you want?" he says. "Shall I come to you with a rod, or in the love of a spirit of gentleness?" Here it already appears that he is speaking about punishment, for which he named the rod. Yet is the rod without love, because he connected it thus: "Shall I come to you with a rod, or in love?" But what follows, "spirit of gentleness," reminds us to understand that even the rod has love. But the love of severity is one thing, the love of gentleness another. Love is indeed one, but it works differently in different things. "Altogether," he says, "fornication is heard of among you, and such fornication as is not even among the Gentiles, so that someone has his own father's wife." Let us see how he commands them to rage against such a monstrous deed. "And you," he says, "are puffed up, and have you not rather had grief, so that he who did this deed might be removed from your midst?" Why "grief" rather than "anger," unless because if one member suffers, all the members suffer together? And not "grief because he was being removed," but "grief," he says, "so that he might be removed," that is, so that the sorrow of those grieving might ascend to God, and He Himself might remove from their midst the one who did this deed, as He Himself knew how, lest perhaps they, through human inexperience, should uproot the wheat together with it.
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cum ergo ad talem uindictam necessitas cogit, humilitas lugentium debet impetrare misericordiam, quam repellit superbia saeuientium. nec illius ipsius qui de medio fratrum tollitur debet neglegi salus, sed ita agendum, ut ei talis uindicta sit utilis, et agendum uoto et precibus, si corrigi obiurgationibus non potest. ideoque sequitur et dicit: ego quidem sicut absens corpore, praesens autem spiritu, iam iudicaui quasi praesens eum, qui sic operatus est, in nomine domini nostri Iesu Christi congregatis uobis et meo spiritu, cum uirtute domini nostri Iesu tradere eiusmodi Satanae in interitum carnis, ut spiritus saluus sit in die domini Iesu. quid ergo agebat apostolus, nisi ut per interitum carnis saluti spiritali consuleret, ut siue aliqua poena uel etiam morte corporali, sicut Annanias et uxor eius ante pedes apostoli
Petri ceciderunt, siue per paenitentiam, quoniam Satanae traditus erat, interimeret in se sceleratam carnis concupiscentiam, quia ipse item dicit: mortificate membra quae sunt super terram, inter quae etiam fornicationem commemorat, et iterum: si enim secundum carnem uixeritis, moriemini, si autem spiritu facta carnis mortificaueritis, uiuetis? non tamen ab eo fraternam separat caritatem, quem de fraterna congregatione praecepit separari.
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When, therefore, necessity compels such vengeance, the humility of those who mourn ought to obtain mercy, which the pride of the raging repels. Nor should the salvation of that very one who is removed from among the brothers be neglected, but it should be done so that such vengeance is useful to him, and it should be done with prayer and entreaty, if he cannot be corrected by rebukes. Therefore, he continues and says: "I, indeed, as one absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged, as if present, him who has acted thus, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, with you assembled and with my spirit, to hand over such a one, with the power of our Lord Jesus, to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that the spirit may be saved on the day of our Lord Jesus." What, then, was the apostle doing, except providing for spiritual salvation through the destruction of the flesh, so that either by some punishment or even bodily death, as Ananias and his wife fell before the feet of the apostle Peter, or through penance, since he had been handed over to Satan, he would destroy in himself the wicked concupiscence of the flesh, because he himself also says: "Mortify the members which are upon the earth," among which he also mentions fornication, and again: "For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if you mortify the works of the flesh according to the spirit, you will live"? Yet he does not separate fraternal charity from him whom he commands to be separated from the fraternal congregation.
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hoc enim apertius ad Thessalonicenses dicit: si quis autem non obaudit uerbo nostro per epistulam, hunc notate, ut non commisceamini cum illo, ut erubescat. et non ut inimicum eum existimetis, sed corripite ut fratrem., audiant isti aliquando et intellegant, quemadmodum satagat caritas apostolica, ut sufferentes inuicem studeamus conseruare unitatem spiritus in uinculo pacis. nam et hic cum dixisset: et non ut inimicum eum existimetis, sed corripite ut fratrem, tamquam ostendens cur hoc dixerit continuo subiunxit: ipse autem deus pacis det uobis pacem semper in omni modo. ita etiam de isto, qui uxorem patris sui habuit, luctum potius indicit et pacificam caritatem ubique commendat, sicut et de se ipso ait: ne iterum cum uenero humilet me deus ad uos et lugeam multos ex his, qui ante peccauerunt et non egerunt paenitentiam super immunditia et luxuria et fornicatione quam gesserunt. et paulo post ait: praedixi et praedico, sicut praesens secundo et nunc absens, his qui ante peccauerunt et ceteris omnibus, quia si uenero iterum non parcam. ideo lugendo iudicabat, ut misericordia dei sine corruptione uinculi pacis, ubi salus tota consistit, contereret peccantes atque corrigeret, sicut de isto ipso qui cum patris uxore fuerat fornicatus fecisse intellegitur.
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For he says more clearly to the Thessalonians: "But if anyone does not obey our word through the letter, mark him, so that you do not associate with him, that he may be ashamed. And do not regard him as an enemy, but correct him as a brother." Let them at last hear and understand how apostolic love strives, so that by bearing with one another we may study to preserve the unity of spirit in the bond of peace. For here too, after saying: "And do not regard him as an enemy, but correct him as a brother," as if showing why he said this, he immediately added: "But may the God of peace himself give you peace always in every way." Thus also concerning that man who had his father's wife, he rather prescribes mourning and everywhere commends peaceful charity, just as he says of himself: "Lest when I come again, God humble me before you and I mourn for many of those who have sinned before and have not done penance for the impurity and luxury and fornication they have committed." And a little later he says: "I have said before and I say now, as one present a second time and now absent, to those who have sinned before and to all others, that if I come again I will not spare." Therefore he judged by mourning, so that the mercy of God, without corruption of the bond of peace in which the whole of salvation consists, might crush sinners and correct them, just as he is understood to have done concerning that very man who had fornicated with his father's wife.
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nam non inuenitur de quo alio significet in secunda epistula ad eosdem Corinthios, cum ait: nam ex multa tribulatione et angustia cordis scripsi uobis per multas lacrimas, non ut contristemini, sed ut sciatis dilectionem quam habeo abundantius in uos. si quis autem contristauit, non me contristauit sed ex parte, ut non onerem, omnes uos. sufficit ei correptio haec quae a multis fit, ita ut e contrario magis uos donetis et consolemini, ne quo modo maiore tristitia absorbeatur qui eiusmodi est. propter quod obsecro uos, confirmetis in eum caritatem. ad hoc enim et scripsi, ut cognoscam probationem uestram, si in omnibus obaudientes estis. si cui autem aliquid donaueritis, et ego. nam et ego si quid donaui alicui, propter uos in persona Christi, ut non possideamur a Satana. non enim ignoramus mentes eius. quid moderatius, quid diligentius, quid sollicitudine pia et paterna ac materna caritate plenius fieri aut dici potest? sicut peccanti adhibet emendationem, sic correcto et conterenti atque humilanti in paenitentia cor auum uult reddi consolationem, ne maiore, inquit, tristitia absorbeatur. sed quid ad illud quo conclusit istam sententiam? ut non possideamur, inquit, a Satana. non enim ignoramus mentes eius.
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For it is not found about whom else he means in the second epistle to the same Corinthians, when he says: "For I wrote to you from much tribulation and anguish of heart, through many tears, not that you might be saddened, but that you might know the love which I have more abundantly for you. But if anyone has saddened, he has not saddened me, but in part, so that I may not burden you all. Sufficient for him is this rebuke which comes from many, so that on the contrary you may rather give and console, lest in any way he who is such be swallowed up by greater sadness. For this reason I beseech you, that you confirm your charity toward him. For I wrote also for this, that I might know your obedience, if you are obedient in all things. But if you have granted anything to anyone, I also grant it. For I also, if I have granted anything to anyone, have done so for your sake in the person of Christ, that we may not be possessed by Satan. For we are not ignorant of his designs." What more moderate, what more careful, what more full of pious concern and paternal and maternal charity could be done or said? Just as he applies correction to the one sinning, so to the one corrected and crushed and humbling his heart in penance he wishes to restore consolation, lest, he says, he be swallowed up by greater sadness. But what of that with which he concluded this sentence? "That we may not be possessed," he says, "by Satan. For we are not ignorant of his designs.
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ipse est enim qui per imaginem quasi iustae seueritatis crudelem saeuitiam persuadet, nihil aliud appetens uenenosissima uersutia sua, nisi ut corrumpat atque dirrumpat uinculum pacis et caritatis, quo conseruato inter christianos uires eius omnes inualidae fiunt ad nocendum et muscipulae insidiarum comminuuntur et consilia euersionis euanescunt.
Sed etsi de aliquo alio in secunda ad Corinthios epistula locutus est apostolus, et ibi tamen significauit, quanta caritate in quemquam debeat ecclesiastica uindicta procedere. hoc est illud, quod isti non intellegentes inter calumnias suas solent habere praecipuum: emendabit me iustus in misericordia et arguet me; oleum autem peccatoris non impinguabit caput meum. quia uero isti non in misericordia emendare nouerunt, et Caeciliani innocentiam saeuis suspicionibus insectati sunt et Optati Gildoniani potentiam oleo fallacis adulationis unxerunt. nam si propter uinculum pacis iniquitatem Optati gementes lugentesque tolerarent, non utique pacem ueram atque catholicam in orbis terrarum sancta unitate dirrumperent aut certe a maioribus suis nefaria caecitate dirruptam ita dolerent, ut saltem aput se experti, quam multos malos pro pace Donati ferre cogantur, impacatas illorum calumnias pace suae correctionis extinguerent.
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He it is who, through the semblance of a kind of just severity, persuades to cruel savagery, seeking nothing else by his most venomous cunning but to corrupt and break the bond of peace and charity, which, if preserved among Christians, renders all his powers ineffective for harm, shatters the snares of his plots, and causes his plans for overthrow to vanish.
But even if the apostle spoke about someone else in the second epistle to the Corinthians, yet there too he indicated with how great charity ecclesiastical punishment ought to proceed against anyone. This is that saying which these men, in their misunderstanding, commonly hold as chief among their calumnies: "The just man will correct me in mercy and will reprove me; but the oil of the sinner will not anoint my head." But because these men do not know how to correct in mercy, they have both persecuted the innocence of Caecilianus with savage suspicions and anointed the power of Optatus Gildonianus with the oil of deceitful flattery. For if, for the sake of the bond of peace, they were tolerating the iniquity of Optatus with groans and lamentations, they would certainly not break the true and catholic peace in the holy unity of the whole world, or at least, if that peace had been broken by the nefarious blindness of their predecessors, they would so grieve over it that, having learned from their own experience how many evil men they are compelled to bear for the sake of the Donatist peace, they would extinguish the unappeased calumnies of those men by the peace of their own correction.
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Sed ad illius primae ad Corinthios epistulae consequentia redeamus. cum dixisset apostolus: tradere huiusmodi Satanae in interitum carnis, ut spiritus saluus sit in die domini Iesu, etiam atque etiam commendans humilitate lugentium hoc debere fieri, non superbia saeuientium, continuo subicit: non bona gloriatio uestra uel per exprobrationem pronuntiationis: bona gloriatio uestra. sic enim nonnulli et maxime Latini codices habent, cum eadem in utroque sententia teneatur. non enim metuendum est, ne quis intellegat laudando eum dixisse: bona gloriatio uestra, cum et superisu dixerit: inflati estis et non potius luctum habuistis et hic continuo subiungat: nescitis quia modicum fermenti totam massam corrumpit, quod ad ipsam inanis gloriationis corruptionem congruentius referri potest. superbia quippe uelut ex uetustate primi hominis, qui superbia lapsus est, quasi fermentata et corrupta mente facit elatos in unam consparasionem, qui sibimet in eam simili iactantiae uanitate consentiunt. et gloriari quidem non de peccatis suis, sed super alterius peccata tamquam ex comparatione innocentiae suae, modicum uidetur fermentum, quia etiam de suis iniquitatibus gloriari multum fermentum est; sed et illud modicum totam massam corrumpit. cadit enim superbus merito superbiae et incipit etiam peccata sua defendendo uelle gloriari.
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But let us return to the continuation of that first epistle to the Corinthians. When the apostle had said: "deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that the spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord Jesus," repeatedly commending that this ought to be done with the humility of those who mourn, not with the pride of those who rage, he immediately adds: "not your good boasting, or by way of reproach in pronunciation: your good boasting." For so some manuscripts, and especially Latin ones, have it, although the same meaning is maintained in both. For there is no fear that anyone might understand that he said, praising them: "your good boasting," when he had said above: "you are puffed up and have not rather had mourning," and here he immediately adds: "do you not know that a little leaven corrupts the whole lump?" which can more fittingly be referred to that corruption of empty boasting. For pride, as if from the oldness of the first man, who fell through pride, makes those who are puffed up, with a mind leavened and corrupted, into one lump, who agree among themselves in a similar vanity of boastfulness. And to boast indeed not of one's own sins, but over the sins of another, as if from comparison of one's own innocence, seems a little leaven, because even to boast of one's own iniquities is much leaven; but even that little corrupts the whole lump. For the proud man falls by the merit of pride and begins to wish to boast even by defending his own sins.
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quod praeuidens idem apostolus dicit: quapropter qui se putat stare caueat ne cadat, etiterum:sipraeoccupatus fuerit homo in aliquo delicto, uos qui spiritales estis instruite huiusmodi in spiritu mansuetudinis, intendens te ipsum, ne et tu tempteris. alter alterius onera portate, et sic adimplebitis legem Christi. quid est lex Christi nisi: mandatum nouum do uobis, ut uos inuicem diligatis? quid est lex Christi nisi: pacem meam do uobis, pacem meam relinquo uobis? quod ergo hic dixit: inuicem onera uestra portate, et sic adimplebitis legem Christi, hoc alio loco ait: sufferentes inuicem in dilectione, studentes seruare unitatem spiritus in uinculo pacis. nam et in illo Pharisaeo modicum fermenti esse uidebatur, quia peccatorem non solum non dolebat, sed super eius peccata de suis se meritis extollebat. sed descendit ille confitens peccata sua iustificatus magis quam ille Pharisaeus iactans merita sua, quoniam qui se exaltat humiliabitur et qui se humiliat exaltabitur. sequitur ergo apostolus et dicit: expurgate uetus fermentum, ut sitis noua consparsio sicut estis azymi. quid est (ut sitis* et quid est 'sicut estis', nisi quia erant ibi tales, erant ibi non tales, quos ut tales essent exemplo talium commonebat?
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Foreseeing this, the same apostle says: "Therefore, let him who thinks he stands beware lest he fall," and again: "If a man has been overtaken in some offense, you who are spiritual, instruct such a one in the spirit of meekness, examining yourself, lest you also be tempted. Bear one another's burdens, and thus you will fulfill the law of Christ." What is the law of Christ if not: "I give you a new commandment, that you love one another"? What is the law of Christ if not: "I give you my peace, I leave you my peace"? Therefore, what he said here: "Bear one another's burdens, and thus you will fulfill the law of Christ," he says elsewhere: "Bearing with one another in love, striving to preserve the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace." For even in that Pharisee there seemed to be a little leaven, because he not only did not grieve for the sinner, but boasted of his own merits over the sinner's sins. But that one came down confessing his sins, justified more than that Pharisee boasting of his merits, because he who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted. Therefore the apostle continues and says: "Purge out the old leaven, so that you may be a new dough, as you are unleavened." What is "so that you may be" and what is "as you are," if not because there were such ones there, and there were not such ones there, whom he was admonishing by the example of such ones to become such?
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tamen omnes in uno tamquam eosdem ammonet, ne illi qui tales erant desperarent de his qui nondum tales erant et eos ad compagem corporis sui non pertinere arbitrarentur; tamquam enim eosdem ammonet, cum dicit: (ut sitis sicut estis.' nouerant enim et illi qui iam sic erant et ammonente apostolo magis magisque nosse debebant sufferre illos qui nondum sic erant, ut sufferendo inuicem in dilectione seruarent unitatem spiritus in uinculo pacis et inuicem onera sua portantes implerent utique legem Christi. et quoniam dominus noster Iesus Christus ad docendam humilitatis uiam usque ad mortem crucis humiliari dignatus est et tamquam medicus aegrotantes ita cum dilectione pertulit peccantes de quibus dixerat: non est opus sanis medicus, sed aegrotantibus, statim principale proposuit exemplum dicens: etenim pascha nostrum immolatus est Christus, ut tantae humilitatis exemplo discerent expurgare uetus fermentum, id est quidquid in eis superbiae de uetere homine remansisset. itaque, inquit, diem festum celebremus, non utique unum diem sed totam uitam, non in fermento ueteri neque in fermento malitiae et malignitatis, sed in azymis sinceritatis et ueritatis. malitia quippe est et malignitas uelut de alieno peccato gloriari, quasi tunc debeat de iustitia sua quisque gaudere, cam alium iustum non esse conspexerit.
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Yet he warns all as if they were the same, lest those who were already such despair of those who were not yet such and consider them not belonging to the structure of their body; for he warns them as if they were the same when he says: "that you may be as you are." For those who were already such knew, and through the apostle's admonition they ought to know more and more, that they should tolerate those who were not yet such, so that by tolerating one another in love they might preserve the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace and, bearing one another's burdens, they would certainly fulfill the law of Christ. And because our Lord Jesus Christ, to teach the way of humility, deigned to be humbled even to death on the cross, and like a physician for the sick, he lovingly endured those who sinned, of whom he had said: "There is no need of a physician for the healthy, but for the sick," he immediately set forth the principal example, saying: "For our Passover, Christ, was sacrificed," so that by the example of such great humility they might learn to purge the old leaven, that is, whatever pride from the old man remained in them. "Therefore," he says, "let us celebrate the feast day," not indeed one day but the whole of life, not in old leaven nor in the leaven of malice and malignity, but in the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. For malice and malignity is, as it were, to glory in another's sin, as if one ought to rejoice in his own justice only when he sees that another is not just.
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sinceritas autem est et ueritas, etiam si proficit aliquis, meminisse quid fuerit et multo magis misereri lapsorum, quandoquidem ipse erectus est a lapsu suo per Christi misericordiam, qui sine ullo suo peccato se pro peccatoribus humilauit.
Sed ne perniciose relinquantur et quasi dissimulanter neglegantur aliena peccata, quod est non minoris crudelitatis quam illud superbiae, sequitur et dicit: scripsi uobis in epistula non commisceri fornicariis, non utique fornicariis huius mundi aut auaris aut raptoribus aut idolis seruientibus. alioquin debueratis de hoc mundo exire; id est si a peccatoribus huius mundi qui praeter ecclesiam sunt uos cohibetis, debueratis de hoc mundo exire. opus enim uestrum in hoc mundo illud est, ut peccatores Christo ad salutem lucremini; quod fieri non poterit, si eorum conloquia conuictumque fugiatis. nunc autem, inquit, scripsi uobis non commisceri. si quis frater nominetur aut fornicator aut idolis seruiens aut auarus aut maledicus aut ebriosus aut rapax, cum eiusmodi ne quidem cibum simul sumere. quo enim mihi de his qui foris sunt iudicare? nonne de his qui intus sunt uos iudicatis? de his autem qui foris sunt deus iudicabit. auferte malum ex uobis ipsis.
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Sincerity, however, is truth, even if someone progresses, to remember what he was and to have much more compassion for the fallen, since he himself was raised from his fall by the mercy of Christ, who humbled himself for sinners without any sin of his own.
But lest the sins of others be perniciously abandoned and, as it were, dissemblingly neglected—which is no less a cruelty than that of pride—he continues and says: I wrote to you in my letter not to mix with fornicators, not, of course, with the fornicators of this world or with the avaricious or the plunderers or those serving idols. Otherwise you ought to have left this world; that is, if you separate yourselves from the sinners of this world who are outside the church, you ought to have left this world. For your work in this world is that, to win sinners for Christ for their salvation; which cannot happen if you flee their conversations and companionship. But now, he says, I wrote to you not to mix. If a brother is called a fornicator or a server of idols or avaricious or a slanderer or a drunkard or a plunderer, do not even take food together with such a one. For why should I judge those who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But concerning those who are outside, God will judge. Remove evil from yourselves.
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Ecce quemadmodum ad hanc sententiam uenit apostolus, cuius ultimam particulam ponendam credidit Parmenianus dicens esse scriptum: auferte malum ex uobis ipsis. quod utique, inquit, si bonis et integris non noceret, non iuberetur auferri. quae autem superius dicta sunt unde ad hoc uentum est praetermisit, quibus utique ad id quod persuadere cupiebat, separationem a malis fieri corporaliter oportere, poterat adiuuari dicente apostolo: cum eiusmodi ne quidem cibum simul sumere. cur ergo non commemorauit quod eius intentionem maxime adiuuare posse uidebatur? cum enim uehementer instet, ut a male uiuentibus corporalem separationem faciendam esse persuadeat, cur non adhibeat apostoli testimonium dicentis: si quis frater nominatur aut fornicator aut idolis seruiens aut auarus aut maledicus (aut ebriosus) aut rapax, cum eiusmodi ne quidem cibum simul sumere, nisi quia uidit, si hoc diceret, posse sibi responderi: 'itane uos, etiamsi fornicatores et idolis seruientes aut non habetis aut eos ignoratis, nullum auarum aut maledicum aut ebriosum aut rapacem inter uos uidetis et nostis? cur ergo cum talibus contra praeceptum apostoli non solum cibum mensae uestrae sumitis, sed etiam cenam mensae dominicae communicatis?' hoc ergo Parmenianus, quantum arbitror, euitare conatus est ne sibi responderetur, ut id non poneret quod pro eius causa ualidissime sonare uideretur.
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See how the apostle came to this statement, the last part of which Parmenian believed was written and quoted: "Remove evil from yourselves." "For," he says, "if it did not harm good and upright men, it would not be ordered to be removed." But he omitted what was said above, from which this conclusion was reached, by which he could have been helped in what he wanted to persuade—that separation from evil men should be made physically—when the apostle says: "Do not even take food together with such men." Why, then, did he not mention what seemed most able to support his intention? For when he strongly insists that physical separation from evil-living men should be made, why does he not use the apostle's testimony saying: "If a brother is called a fornicator or a servant of idols or a covetous man or a slanderer or a drunkard or a robber, do not even take food together with such men," unless because he saw that if he said this, he could be answered: "Do you, then, even if you have no fornicators or servants of idols, or you are ignorant of them, do you see and know no covetous man or slanderer or drunkard or robber among you? Why, then, do you, contrary to the apostle's precept, not only take the food of your table with such men, but also share the feast of the Lord's table?" This, therefore, Parmenian, as I think, tried to avoid, lest he be answered, and so he did not set down what seemed to sound most strongly for his cause.
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nam hoc epistulae apostolicae capitulum si eum fugisset et ei non occurrisset, non ex eius ultima parte poneret: auferte malum ex uobis ipsis.
Sed nunc, quia hoc diximus, fortasse isti audebunt negare habere inter se auaros aut maledicos aut ebriosos aut rapaces, et ipsum Optatum, qui uniuersae Africae notissimus fuit, quem tamdiu pertulerunt, fortasse defendere conabuntur. dicant ergo, si possunt, meliorem se atque purgatiorem habere nunc ecclesiam quam erat ipsa unitas beatissimi Cypriani temporibus, qui collegas suos, a quibus tamen nulla corporali disiunctione separatus est, nullum eorum nominatim appellans, sed prudenter ac sobrie saluberrimae mordacitatis inferens medicinam, his uerbis grauiter arguit, quod esurientibus in ecclesia fratribus habere argentum largiter uellent, fundos insidiosis fraudibus raperent, usuris multiplicantibus faenus augerent. et ut apertissime ostenderet de his se dicere, cum quibus in unius ecclesiae communione uiuebat, consequenter adnexuit: quid non perpeti tales pro peccatis huiusmodi mereremur? non enim ait 'mererentur sed 'mereremur', quod nullo modo dixisset, cum talis utique ipse non esset, nisi manifestare uellet eorum facta se gemere, qui ei non solum ecclesiae unitate sed etiam collegii consortio iungerentur, quamuis ab eis uita moribus corde proposito discreparet.
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For if this passage of the apostolic letter had escaped him and had not come to his attention, he would not place from its last part: "Remove evil from yourselves."
But now, because we have said this, perhaps these men will dare to deny that they have among themselves the avaricious, or the slanderous, or the drunken, or the rapacious, and they will perhaps attempt to defend Optatus himself, who was most notorious throughout all Africa, whom they endured for so long. Let them say, then, if they can, that they now have a better and more purified church than was the unity itself in the time of the most blessed Cyprian, who, though he was separated from his colleagues by no bodily division, naming none of them individually, but prudently and soberly applying the medicine of a most salutary sharpness, gravely rebuked them in these words, because, while brothers were hungry in the church, they wished to have silver in abundance, seized estates by deceitful frauds, and increased their usury by multiplying interest. And to show most clearly that he was speaking about those with whom he lived in the communion of one church, he consequently added: "What would we not suffer for sins of this kind?" For he did not say "they would suffer" but "we would suffer," which he would by no means have said, since he himself was certainly not such, unless he wished to make it known that he grieved over the deeds of those who were joined to him not only by the unity of the church but also by the fellowship of the college, although he differed from them in life, morals, heart, and intention.
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dicant ergo isti meliorem nunc esse ecclesiam suam et non se habere tales collegas, quales habuit in ipsa unitate Cyprianus. credant eis qui uolunt et aduersus ea mala, quae de moribus eorum faciem dissimulantium feriunt, oculos claudant; ego eos ad illa ipsa priora unitatis tempora reuocabo et ab eis quaeram, utrum, quando ille uir tantus episcopus Carthaginiensis ecclesiae Cyprianus de tam malo collegio testimonio liberae uocis usque ad ea scripta quae posteris etiam proderentur ingemuit, erat ecclesia Christi an non erat. si erat, quaero quemadmodum Cyprianus et ceteri similes eius implebant quod praecepit apostolus: si quis frater nominatur aut fornicator aut idolis seruiens aut auarus aut maledicus aut ebriosus aut rapax, cum eiusmodi ne quidem cibum simul sumere, quando cum his auaris et rapacibus, qui esurientibus in ecclesia fratribus habere argentum largiter uellent, fundos insidiosis fraudibus raperent, usuris multiplicantibus faenus augerent, panem domini manducabant et calicem domini bibebant.
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Let them say, then, that their church is now better and that they do not have such colleagues as Cyprianus had within that same unity. Let those who wish believe them and close their eyes to those evils which strike the face of those who dissemble, from their own conduct; I will recall them to those same earlier times of unity and ask them whether, when that great man, the bishop of the Carthaginian church Cyprianus, groaned with the testimony of a free voice about such a bad college, even to the point of those writings which would be handed down to posterity, the church of Christ existed or did not exist. If it existed, I ask how Cyprianus and others like him fulfilled what the apostle commands: if a brother is called a fornicator or a servant of idols or a covetous man or a slanderer or a drunkard or a plunderer, not even to take food together with such a one, when they were eating the Lord’s bread and drinking the Lord’s cup together with those covetous and rapacious men who, while brothers in the church were hungry, would rather have money in abundance, seized estates by deceitful frauds, and increased usury by multiplying interest.
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An forte parua sunt ista crimina et parui aestimanda ? solent enim isti etiam hoc dicere, pensantes ea non in statera aequa diuinarum scripturarum, sed in statera dolosa consuetudinum suarum. quidquid enim sceleris et iniquitatis inebriat multitudinem, amittit examinis ueritatem. sed ideo sunt tamquam sincerissimum speculum proposita hominibus oracula caelestium paginarum, ut ibi quisque uideat quodlibet peccatum quantum sit, quod forte magnum est et ex male uiuentium caeco more contemnitur. potuitne grauius diuinis eloquiis accusari auaritia, quam ut idolatriae demonstraretur aequalis et eius nomine appellaretur dicente apostolo: et auaritia quae est idolorum seruitus? potuitne maiore poena digna iudicari, quam ut inter illa crimina poneretur. quibus obsessi regnum dei non possidebunt? aperiant oculos cordis, ne frustra pateant. oculi corporis, et legant praedicatorem liberum ueritatis in eadem ipsa ad Corinthios prima epistula scribentem: nolite errare. neque fornicatores neque idolis seruientes neque adulteri neque molles neque masculorum concubitores neque fures neque auari neque ebriosi neque maledici neque rapaces regnum dei possidebunt.
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Or are those crimes trivial and to be considered trivial? For they are accustomed to say even this, weighing them not on the fair balance of the divine scriptures, but on the deceitful balance of their own customs. For whatever wickedness and iniquity intoxicates the multitude loses the truth of examination. But the oracles of the heavenly pages are set before men like a most pure mirror, so that there each one may see how great any sin is, which perhaps is great and is despised out of the blind habit of those who live wickedly. Could avarice be more severely accused by the divine utterances than to be shown equal to idolatry and to be called by its name, as the apostle says: "and avarice, which is the service of idols"? Could it be judged worthy of a greater punishment than to be placed among those crimes by which those who are possessed will not possess the kingdom of God? Let them open the eyes of the heart, lest the eyes of the body be open in vain, and let them read the free preacher of truth in that same first epistle to the Corinthians, writing: "Do not err. Neither fornicators, nor those serving idols, nor adulterers, nor effeminate men, nor men who lie with males, nor thieves, nor the avaricious, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor plunderers will possess the kingdom of God.
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quomodo ergo Cyprianus et alia similia frumenta dominica in illa tunc unitatis ecclesia cum auaris et rapacibus, cum his qui regnum dei non possidebunt, non laicis uel quibuscumque clericis, sed ipsis episcopis panem domini manducabant et calicem domini bibebant, cum idem apostolus praecipiat non eis commisceri et clamet cum eiusmodi nec quidem cibum sumere? an quia non poterant ab eis corporaliter separari, ne simul eradicarent et triticum, sufficiebat eis a talibus corde seiungi, uita moribusque distingui, propter compensationem custodiendae pacis et unitatis, propter salutem infirmorum et tamquam lactentium frumentorum, ne membra corporis Christi per sacrilega schismata laniarent?
Sed ecce non ego urgeo quemquam eorum sic intellegere; ipsi explicent, quemadmodum esse potuerit illa tunc ecclesia gloriosa sine macula et ruga, ubi esurientibus in ecclesia fratribus habere largiter argentum uolebant, ubi fundos insidiosis fraudibus rapiebant, ubi usuris multiplicantibus faenus augebant, ubi tantis erant iniquitatibus inuoluti, ut per illas regnum dei non possiderent. quodsi gloriosa ecclesia sine macula et ruga in eis solis computabatur, qui maerebant et gemebant illas iniquitates quae fiebant in medio eorum, unde etiam secundum sancti Ezechielis prophetiam tales proprio signo.
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How then did Cyprian and other similar grains of the Lord, in that then-united church, eat the Lord’s bread and drink the Lord’s cup together with the avaricious and rapacious, with those who would not possess the kingdom of God—not laymen or any clerics, but bishops themselves—when the same apostle commands not to mingle with them and cries out not even to take food with such people? Or was it because they could not be physically separated from them, lest they uproot the wheat along with them, that it sufficed for them to be separated in heart from such persons, to be distinguished in life and morals, for the sake of preserving peace and unity, for the sake of the health of the weak and of the grains that were, as it were, still nursing, lest the members of the body of Christ be torn apart by sacrilegious schisms?
But behold, I do not force anyone among them to understand it thus; let them themselves explain how that then-glorious church could have been without spot or wrinkle, where brothers in the church were hungry while some wanted to have silver in abundance, where they seized estates by deceitful frauds, where they increased usury by multiplying interest, where they were involved in so many iniquities that through them they would not possess the kingdom of God. But if the glorious church without spot or wrinkle was counted only in those who mourned and groaned over those iniquities which were committed in their midst, whence also, according to the prophecy of the holy Ezekiel, such persons are marked by their own sign.
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signari meruerunt, ut a uastatione et perditione iniquorum tutissimi euaderent, desinant calumniari bonis non operantibus mala per morbidam cupiditatem, sed tolerantibus propter pacificam caritatem, quibus dictum est: beati pacifici, quoniam ipsi filii dei uocabuntur. nam propterea spiritus sanctus per memoratum Ezechielem prophetam tali uerbo designauit malos, quos in unitate tolerant boni, ut eos in medio bonorum diceret constitutos, quia si bonos diceret in medio malorum, illi quasi extrinsecus et forinsecus esse uiderentur. gemunt, inquit, et maerent iniquitates populi mei quae fiunt in medio eorum, ut illos iniquos non solum non exclusos, sed etiam inclusos cogitaremus.
Si uero iam tunc non erat ecclesia, quia Cyprianus et quicumque cum eo auaros illos rapacesque nouerant quales ipsi non erant, quamuis eos grauissimis gemitibus et praeclarissimis uocibus accusarent, unam tamen cum eis Ñltrantes ecclesiam et in una congregatione paria sacramenta tractantes per huiusmodi communicationem paris sortis effecti sunt, quia non obtemperauerunt apostolo iubenti cum huiusmodi nec cibum quidem simul sumere et: auferte malum ex uobis ipsis, quid adhuc laboramus? quid se ipsi iactant quod habeant aliquam ecclesiam, si iam illis temporibus esse destitit? dicant unde natus est Maiorinus aut Donatus, ut per eos nasceretur Parmenianus atque Primianus.
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They deserved to be marked, so that they might escape most safely from the devastation and destruction of the wicked, and they cease to slander the good, who do not work evil through morbid greed, but endure it for the sake of peaceful charity, to whom it is said: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. For this reason the Holy Spirit, through the aforementioned prophet Ezekiel, designated the wicked whom the good tolerate in unity with such a word, that he said they were placed in the midst of the good, because if he said the good were in the midst of the wicked, they would seem to be somehow external and outside. "They groan," he says, "and grieve over the iniquities of my people which are committed in their midst," so that we might think of those wicked not only as not excluded, but even as included.
If indeed the church did not exist then, because Cyprian and whoever with him knew those greedy and rapacious men to be what they themselves were not, although they accused them with the heaviest groans and the most illustrious voices, yet they were made of equal lot through this kind of communion, since they did not obey the apostle commanding not even to take food together with such men, and: "Remove evil from yourselves; why do we still labor?" Why do they themselves boast that they have some church, if it had already ceased to exist in those times? Let them say from whom Maiorinus or Donatus was born, so that through them Parmenianus and Primianus might be born.
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quid enim eis prodest, quod auaros et rapaces, cum quibus cibum sumi uetat apostolus, modo se uel non habere in congregatione sua uel incognitos sibi esse mentiuntur, quandoquidem fuerunt tales in illa unitatis ecclesia, unde se isti exortos esse sic iactant, ut eam in sua sola societate id est in communione Donati remansisse persuadere conentur? si enim dicunt per talium communionem perire ecclesiam, cur eam non dicunt iam Cypriani perisse temporibus? ac sic et se ipsos unde extiterint non inuenientes desinant dicere aput se ecclesiam remansisse, quam totam prioribus perisse temporibus dicunt. si autem in bonis quibus talia displicent semper mansit et manet et manebit ecclesia, discant isti aliquando non sic intellegere quod ait apostolus: auferte malum ex uobis ipsis, ut per schismata conantes colligere zizania eradicent simul et triticum. quae omnia ita disputamus, ut meminerint qui haec legunt uel audiunt, non eos potuisse umquam demonstrare siue illis temporibus, cum recentissimae res erant, siue nunc, cum multo firmiore innocentiae conscientia sibi totus orbis in catholica ecclesia christiana pace conectitur, Caecilianum uel alios qui ei concorditer inhaerebant fuisse zizania.
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For what good does it do them that they falsely claim either not to have in their own congregation, or to be unknown to them, the greedy and rapacious with whom the apostle forbids taking food, when there were such men in that church of unity from which they boast of having sprung, in such a way that they try to persuade that it remained only in their own society, that is, in the communion of Donatus? For if they say that the church perishes through communion with such men, why do they not say that it already perished in the time of Cyprian? And thus, finding no origin from which they themselves arose, they would cease to say that the church remained with them, when they say that the whole church perished in earlier times. But if the church always remained, remains, and will remain in the good to whom such things are displeasing, let them at last learn not to understand the apostle’s saying, “Remove evil from yourselves,” in such a way that, by attempting to gather the tares through schisms, they uproot the wheat as well. All this we discuss so that those who read or hear these things may remember that they could never demonstrate, either in those times when events were most recent, or now when the whole world is connected in Christian peace in the Catholic Church with a much firmer consciousness of innocence, that Caecilian or others who adhered to him in concord were tares.
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sed ut securus unusquisque in ecclesiae sanctae unitate permaneat et eiusdem unitatis desertores, ne cum eis pereat, non sequatur, haec dicimus, quia, si fuissent illi zizania, tolerari potius usque ad messem quam pernicie schismatis eradicatis frumentis separari debuerunt.
Sed dicet aliquis: 'quomodo ergo praecipienti apostolo poterimus oboedire qui ait: cum eiusmodi nec quidem cibum simul sumere? si enim solam cordis separationem ab eis faciendam esse praeciperet, non diceret: scripsi uobis in epistula non commisceri fornicariis, non utique fornicariis huius mundi, id est eis qui christiani non essent, de quibus postea dicit: quo enim mihi de his qui foris sunt iudicare? nonne de his qui intus sunt uos iudicatis? de his autem qui foris sunt deus iudicabit. cum ergo de tali separatione praecipiat, quae non fit ab eis malis qui christiani non sunt, sed ab eis qui christiani sunt, cordis autem separatio ab omnibus malis facienda est ac per hoc et ab eis malis qui non sunt christiani oportet nos corde separari, quid restat, nisi ut intellegamus nobis id iuberi per apostolum, ut quibusdam malis christianis quales ipse designat nec tali coniunctione misceamur, quali coniunctione paganis in ipsius uitae humanae societate miscemur?
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But so that each person may remain secure in the unity of the holy Church and not follow the deserters of that same unity, lest he perish with them, we say this: because, if those had been tares, they ought rather to have been tolerated until the harvest than that the wheat should have been uprooted and separated by the ruinous evil of schism.
But someone will say: 'How then will we be able to obey the apostle who commands: "Do not even take food together with such men"? For if he were commanding that only a separation of heart be made from them, he would not say: "I wrote to you in my letter not to mix with fornicators"—not, of course, the fornicators of this world, that is, those who were not Christians, concerning whom he later says: "For why should I judge those who are outside? Do you not judge those who are within? But concerning those who are outside, God will judge." Therefore, since he commands a separation of this kind, which is not made from those evil men who are not Christians, but from those who are Christians—and a separation of heart is to be made from all evil men, and consequently we must also be separated in heart from those evil men who are not Christians—what remains, except that we understand that we are commanded by the apostle that we should not be mixed with certain evil Christians, of the kind he designates, even in that kind of association in which we are mixed with pagans in the very society of human life?
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et ideo alio loco si quis uos uocauerit ex infidelibus et uolueritis ire, omnia quae apponuntur uobis manducate nihil interrogantes, hic autem cum eiusmodi, inquit, nec quidem cibum simul sumere. permittit itaque cibum sumere cum infidelibus, id est cum eis qui nondum crediderunt in Christum, aput quos dicit manducandum esse quod apposuerint, de quibus quoniam foris sunt deus iudicabit; cum his autem qui intus sunt, id est si quis frater nominatur aut fornicator aut idolis seruiens aut auarus aut maledicus aut ebriosus aut rapax, uetat etiam cibum sumere. persuadet ergo ante tempus messis a frumentis zizania separari. quod si facere noluerimus, quoniam dominus prohibet, toleraturi ea sumus et in sola cum eis uoluntatis et cordis separatione perseueraturi, ac per hoc etiam cibum sumpturi cum talibus, quod apostolus prohibet\\
In hac uelut angustia quaestionis non aliquid nouum aut insolitum dicam, sed id quod sanitas obseruat ecclesiae, ut, cum quisque fratrum id est christianorum intus in ecclesiae societate constitutorum in aliquo tali peccato fuerit deprehensus, ut anathemate dignus habeatur, fiat hoc ubi periculum schismatis nullum est atque id cum ea dilectione, de qua ipse alibi praecipit dicens: ut non inimicum eum existimetis, sed corripite ut fratrem. non enim ad eradicandum fit, sed ad corrigendum.
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And so in another place: "If someone from among the infidels calls you and you wish to go, eat everything that is set before you, asking no questions; but here, with such as these," he says, "do not even take food together." He therefore permits taking food with infidels, that is, with those who have not yet believed in Christ, among whom he says one should eat what they set out, concerning whom, since they are outside, God will judge; but with those who are inside, that is, if a brother is called a fornicator or a servant of idols or a covetous man or a slanderer or a drunkard or a robber, he forbids even taking food. He therefore urges that the tares be separated from the wheat before the time of harvest. If we are unwilling to do this, since the Lord forbids it, we will tolerate them and persevere in separation of will and heart alone with them, and accordingly also take food with such persons, which the apostle forbids.
In this apparent difficulty of the question, I will say nothing new or unusual, but what the soundness of the Church observes: that when any brother, that is, one of the Christians established within the society of the Church, is caught in some such sin as to be deemed worthy of anathema, let this be done where there is no danger of schism, and with that love concerning which he himself elsewhere gives instruction, saying: "Do not consider him an enemy, but correct him as a brother." For it is done not for eradication, but for correction.
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quodsi se non agnouerit neque paenitendo correxerit, ipse foras exiet et per propriam uoluntatem ab ecclesiae communione dirimetur. nam et ipse dominus, cum seruis uolentibus zizania colligere dixit: sinite utraque crescere usque ad messem, praemisit causam dicens: ne forte, cum uultis colligere zizania, eradicetis simul et triticum. ubi satis ostendit, (ut), cum metus iste non subest, sed omnino de frumentorum stabilitate certa securitas manet. id est quando ita cuiusquam crimen notum est et omnibus execrabile apparet, ut uel nullos prorsus uel non tales habeat defensores, per quos possit schisma contingere, non dormiat seueritas disciplinae, in qua tanto est efficacior emendatio prauitatis, quanto diligentior conseruatio caritatis. tunc autem hoc sine labe pacis et unitatis et sine laesione frumentorum fieri potest, cum congregationis ecclesiae multitudo ab eo crimine quod anathematur aliena est. tunc enim adiuuat praepositum potius corripientem quam criminosum resistentem; tunc se ab eius coniunctione salubriter continet, ut nec cibum cum eo quisquam sumat non rabie inimica, sed cohercitione fraterna; tunc etiam ille et timore percutitur et pudore sanatur, cum ab uniuersa ecclesia se anathematum uidens sociam turbam, cum qua in delicto suo gaudeat et bonis insultet, non potest inuenire.
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But if he does not recognize himself and does not correct himself through penance, he himself will go out and be separated from the communion of the Church by his own will. For the Lord himself, when he said to servants who wanted to gather the tares, "Let both grow until the harvest," prefaced the reason by saying, "Lest, when you want to gather the tares, you uproot the wheat as well." Here he sufficiently shows that (this applies) when that fear is not present, but complete and certain security about the stability of the grain remains—that is, when someone's crime is so well known and appears so execrable to all that it has either no defenders at all, or none of such a kind as could cause a schism, then the severity of discipline should not sleep, a discipline in which the correction of depravity is as much more effective as the preservation of charity is more diligent. But this can be done without harm to peace and unity and without injury to the wheat when the multitude of the church congregation is alien to that crime which is anathematized. For then it aids the prelate who is rebuking rather than the criminal who is resisting; then it salubriously refrains from association with him, so that no one even takes food with him, not out of hostile rage but out of fraternal restraint; then also that man is both struck by fear and healed by shame, when, seeing himself anathematized by the whole Church, he cannot find a crowd of accomplices with whom to rejoice in his sin and insult the good.
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Ad hoc enim et ipse apostolus ait: si quis frater nominatur. in eo quippe quod ait 'si quis' nihil aliud uidetur significare uoluisse, nisi eum posse tali modo salubriter corrigi qui inter dissimiles peccat, id est inter eos quos peccatorum similium pestilentia non corrumpit. in eo uero quod ait 'nominatur' hoc nimirum intellegi uoluit, parum esse ut sit quisque talis, nisi etiam nominetur id est famosus appareat, ut possit omnibus dignissima uideri quae in eum fuerit anathematis prolata sententia. ita enim et salua pace corrigitur et non interfectorie percutitur, sed medicinaliter uritur. propterea et de illo dixit quem tali medicina sanari uoluerat: satis est huic correptio haec quae (a) multis. neque enim potest esse salubris a multis correptio, nisi cum ille corripitur qui non habet sociam multitudinem. cum uero idem morbus plurimos occupauerit, nihil aliud bonis restat quam dolor et gemitus, ut per illud signum, quod Ezechieli sancto reuelatur, inlaesi euadere ab illorum uastatione mereantur — ad eum enim qui errare non potest clamant: ne comperdas cum impiis animam meam et cum uiris sanguinum uitam meam —, ne, cum uoluerint colligere zizania, eradicent simul et triticum nec per diligentiam segetem dominicam purgent, sed per temeritatem ipsi potius inter purgamenta numerentur.
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For this reason the apostle himself says: "if a brother is named." For in that he says "if anyone," he seems to have wished to signify nothing other than that one who sins among those unlike him—that is, among those whom the plague of similar sins does not corrupt—can be healthfully corrected in such a way. But in that he says "is named," he undoubtedly wished this to be understood: that it is not enough for someone to be such, unless he is also named, that is, becomes notorious, so that the sentence of anathema pronounced against him may seem most worthy to all. For in this way he is corrected with peace preserved, and he is not struck lethally but is burned medicinally. For this reason he also said of the one whom he had wished to be healed by such medicine: "this correction, which comes from many, is enough for him." For a correction by many cannot be healthful unless it is when the one corrected does not have a multitude of associates. But when the same disease has seized many, nothing else remains for the good than grief and groaning, so that through that sign which was revealed to the holy Ezekiel, they may deserve to escape unharmed from the devastation of those men—for they cry out to the one who cannot err: "Do not destroy my soul with the impious and my life with men of blood"—lest, when they wish to gather the tares, they uproot the wheat as well, and not cleanse the Lord's harvest through diligence, but rather themselves be counted among the refuse through temerity.
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ideoque idem apostolus, cum iam multos comperisset immunda luxuria et fornicationibus inquinatos, ad eosdem Corinthios in secunda epistula scribens non identidem praecipit, ut cum talibus cibum non sumerent; multi enim erant nec dici de his poterat: 'si quis frater nominatur fornicarius aut auarus aut aliquid tale, cum eiusmodi nec quidem cibum simul sumere, sed ait: ne iterum cum uenero humilet me deus ad uos et lugeam multos ex his, qui ante peccauerunt et non egerunt paenitentiam super immunditia et luxuria et fornicatione quam gesserunt. per luctum suum potius eos diuino flagello cohercendos minatur quam per illam correptionem, ut ceteri se ab eorum coniunctione contineant. consequenter enim dicit: ecce tertio hoc ueniam ad uos. in ore duum uel trium testium stabit omne uerbum. praedixi et praedico, sicut praesens secundo et nunc absens, his qui ante peccauerunt et ceteris omnibus, quia si uenero iterum non parcam, quia probationem quaeritis eius qui in me loquitur Christi. quid aliud hic dixit: non parcam nisi quod superius ait: et lugeam, ut luctus eius impetraret flagellum a domino, quo illi corriperentur, qui iam propter multitudinem non poterant ita corripi, ut ab eorum coniunctione se ceteri continerent et eos erubescere facerent, sicut faciendum est, si quis frater in aliquo ceteris dissimili crimine nominatur?
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Therefore the same apostle, when he had already discovered many stained by unclean lust and fornications, writing to the same Corinthians in the second epistle, does not again command that they should not take food with such persons; for there were many, nor could it be said of them: 'if a brother is named a fornicator or a covetous man or something of that sort, do not even take food together with such a one,' but he says: lest when I come again, God humble me to you and I mourn many of those who have previously sinned and have not done penance for the uncleanliness and lust and fornication which they have committed. He threatens them rather by his own grief to be restrained by divine scourge than by that reproof that the rest should keep themselves from association with them. For he says consequently: behold, I am coming to you a third time. Every word will stand on the testimony of two or three witnesses. I have said and I say, as I was present the second time and now absent, to those who have previously sinned and to all others, that if I come again I will not spare, because you seek proof of Christ who speaks in me. What else did he say here: 'I will not spare' except what he said above: 'and I mourn,' so that his mourning might obtain a scourge from the Lord, by which those would be chastised who, on account of their multitude, could not be so reproved that the rest would keep themselves from association with them and make them blush, as ought to be done if a brother is named in some crime dissimilar to the rest?
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et reuera, cum contagio peccandi multitudinem inuaserit, diuinae disciplinae seuera misericordia necessaria est. nam consilia separationis et inania sunt et perniciosa atque sacrilega, quia et impia superbia fiunt et plus perturbant infirmos bonos quam corrigunt animosos malos. sicut ille fidelissimus testis auaritiae collegarum, cum ea mala tribulationum, quae patiebatur illo tempore ecclesia, censurae diuinae disciplinaeque tribueret, commemoratis quos nouerat episcoporum pessimis moribus, qui esurientibus fratribus habere argentum largiter uellent, fundos insidiosis fraudibus raperent, usuris multiplicantibus faenus augerent, quid non, inquit, perpeti tales pro peccatis huiusmodi mereremur? et deinde adhibet testimonium de psalmis dicens: cum iam pridem praemonuerit et dixerit censura diuina: 'si dereliquerint filii eius legem meam et in iudiciis meis non ambulauerintsiiustificationes measprofanauerint et praecepta mea non obseruauerint, uisitabo in uirga facinora eorum et in flagellis delicta eorum. misericordiam autem meam non dispergam ab eis\\
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And indeed, when the contagion of sin has invaded the multitude, the severe mercy of divine discipline is necessary. For counsels of separation are both empty and pernicious and sacrilegious, because they are done with impious pride and they disturb the weak good more than they correct the bold bad. Just as that most faithful witness of the avarice of his colleagues, when he attributed those evils of tribulations which the church was suffering at that time to divine censure and discipline, after recalling the worst morals of bishops he knew, who, while brothers were hungry, wanted to have silver abundantly, seized estates by deceitful frauds, and increased usury by multiplying interest, said: "What, indeed, would we not deserve to suffer for sins of this kind?" And then he adduces testimony from the Psalms, saying: "Since divine censure has already long since warned and said: 'If his sons abandon my law and do not walk in my judgments, if they profane my ordinances and do not observe my precepts, I will visit their crimes with a rod and their offenses with scourges. But I will not scatter my mercy from them.'
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Misericorditer igitur corripiat homo quod potest, quod autem non potest patienter ferat et cum dilectione gemat aut lugeat, donec aut ille desuper emendet et corrigat aut usque ad messem differat eradicare zizania et paleam uentilare. ut tamen securi de salute sua bonae spei christiani inter desperatos, quos corripere non ualent, in unitate uersentur, auferant malum a se ipsis, id est ut in ipsis non inueniatur quod eis in moribus displicet aliorum. cum enim dixisset apostolus: quid enim mihi de his qui foris sunt iudicare? nonne de his qui intus sunt uos iudicatis? de his autem qui foris sunt deus iudicabit, tamquam illi responderent: 'quid agimus, cum ita improborum multitudine premimur, ut iudicium nostrum in aliquam cohercitionem non possimus exerere?', auferte, inquit, malum ex uobis ipsis, id est: 'si non potestis auferre malos ex medio uestrum, ipsum malum auferte ex uobis ipsis.' quodsi quisquam uelit sic intellegere quod dictum est: auferte malum ex uobis ipsis, ut per correptionem separationis de congregatione fratrum malus quisque auferendus sit, studio tamen sanandi, non odio perimendi esse faciendum nemo dubitauerit. et quis adhibendus sit modus temporaque seruanda, ne pax ecclesiae uioletur, in qua maxime tritico parcendum est, ne simul cum zizaniis eradicetur, quod in praesentia uisum est necessarium disseruimus.
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Therefore, let a man mercifully correct what he can, and what he cannot, let him bear patiently and groan or mourn with love, until either He above corrects and amends it, or defers the uprooting of the tares and the winnowing of the chaff until the harvest. Yet, so that Christians of good hope, secure in their own salvation, may move among the desperate whom they cannot correct, remaining in unity, let them remove evil from themselves—that is, let what displeases them in the morals of others not be found in themselves. For when the Apostle had said: "Why should I judge those who are outside? Do you not judge those who are within? But concerning those who are outside, God will judge," as if they were to respond: "What are we to do, when we are so oppressed by a multitude of the wicked that we cannot exercise our judgment in any form of coercion?"—"Remove evil from yourselves," he says, that is: "If you cannot remove the wicked from your midst, at least remove the evil itself from yourselves." But if anyone wishes to understand what was said—"Remove evil from yourselves"—in such a way that any wicked person is to be removed from the congregation of the brethren through correction by separation, no one will doubt that this is to be done with a zeal for healing, not with a hatred for destroying. And what manner is to be employed and what times are to be observed, so that the peace of the Church is not violated—in which the wheat must especially be spared, lest it be uprooted together with the tares—we have discussed as seemed necessary in the present context.
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haec qui diligenter et pacifice cogitat, nec in conseruatione unitatis neglegit disciplinae seueritatem nec immoderatione cohercitionis dirrumpit uinculum societatis.
Nam hoc ipsum quod ait apostolus: cum eiusmodi nec quidem cibum simul sumere quam multi boni christiani faciunt de his quorum familiarius curam gerunt, ut, a quorum consortio potuerint separare quos tali correptione posse corrigi sentiunt uel quos omnino corrigi posse desperant, ne alios conloquiorum malorum contagione corrumpant, non dubitent facere. facit autem hoc bene, id est humili caritate ac benigna seueritate, qui sic praeest fratribus suis, ut eorum seruum se esse meminerit, sicut sese habet ipsius domini et praeceptum et exemplum. tunc enim fit et sine tyfo elationis in hominem et cum luctu deprecationis ad deum. sed non, quam facile de gradu clericorum quisque ab episcopo uel de numero pauperum quos pascit ecclesia uel de ipsa congregatione laicorum siue ab episcopo siue a clerico uel quocumque praeposito cui est potestas eximitur, ita ut cum eiusmodi a ceteris, quibus hoc praecipi potest, nec cibus sumatur, tam facile malorum multitudo in quolibet ordine ecclesiae potest a bonorum commixtione secludi et expelli.
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Those who consider this diligently and peacefully neither neglect the severity of discipline in preserving unity, nor break the bond of fellowship by the immoderation of coercion.
For this very thing that the apostle says—not even to take food together with such persons—many good Christians do with those for whose care they are more intimately responsible, so that they do not hesitate to separate from their company those whom they perceive can be corrected by such reproof, or those whom they altogether despair of being able to correct, lest they corrupt others by the contagion of evil associations. But one does this well, that is, with humble charity and benign severity, who presides over his brothers in such a way that he remembers he is their servant, just as the Lord’s own precept and example require. For then it is done both without the pride of arrogance toward man and with the lament of prayer to God. But it is not as easy to remove someone from the rank of clergy by a bishop, or from the number of the poor whom the church feeds, or from the congregation of laity by a bishop or a cleric or any prelate who has the authority, so that food is not even taken with such persons by the rest to whom this can be commanded, as it is easy for a multitude of the evil in any order of the church to be separated and expelled from the mixture of the good.
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nam et in domibus suis quique boni fideles ita disciplinam suorum moderantur et regunt, ut ibi quoque obtemperent apostolo praecipienti cum eiusmodi nec quidem cibum simul sumere, cum et de filiis suis et de domesticis hoc faciunt uel fieri iubent., cum eos uident ita uiuere, ut hoc eis esse faciendum ipsa quae in eos habetur caritas suggerat. turba autem iniquorum, cum facultas est in populis promendi sermonem, generali obiurgatione ferienda est et maxime si occasionem atque opportunitatem praebuerit aliquod flagellum desuper domini, quo eos appareat pro suis meritis uapulare. tunc enim aures humiles praebet emendatori sermoni calamitas auditorum faciliusque in gemitum confitendi quam, in murmura resistendi afflicta corda compellit, sicut tunc beatus Cyprianus de collegis suis fortasse illa non diceret, nisi eum diuina desuper seueritas adiuuaret. eo quippe tempore illa dicebat tam molesto, tam calamitoso atque luctuoso, ut illi non solum suscensere non auderent, sed etiam uix a suscensentibus ueniam se posse impetrare sentirent quamquam etsi nulla calamitas tribulationis premat, cum facultas datur, utiliter corripitur in multitudine multitudo; nam sicut separata saeuire, sic in ipsa congregatione obiurgata gemere consueuit.
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For in their own homes, each of the good faithful so moderate and govern the discipline of their households that they also obey the apostle there, who commands not even to take food together with such persons, when they do this or order it done concerning their own children and household members, when they see them living in such a way that the love which is held for them suggests that this must be done. But a crowd of the wicked, when there is opportunity in the congregations to deliver a sermon, is to be struck with a general rebuke, and especially if some scourge from above from the Lord has offered occasion and opportunity, by which it appears that they are being beaten according to their merits. For then calamity renders the hearers’ ears humble to the corrective sermon, and more easily drives afflicted hearts into groans of confession than into murmurs of resistance, just as then the blessed Cyprian would perhaps not have said those things about his colleagues unless the divine severity from above were assisting him. For at that time he was saying those things in a time so troublesome, so calamitous and mournful, that they not only dared not be angry with him, but also felt that they could scarcely obtain pardon from those who were angry. Although, even if no calamity of tribulation presses, when opportunity is given, the multitude is usefully rebuked in the multitude; for just as they are accustomed to rage when separated, so in the congregation itself, when rebuked, they are accustomed to groan.
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quamobrem et illud praeceptum apostoli nullo modo neglegendum est, cum sine periculo uiolandae pacis fieri potest, quia nec ipse aliter fieri uoluit, ut a congregatione bonorum separaretur malus, et eiusdem illud praecipue tenendum est, ut sufferentes inuicem studeamus seruare unitatem spiritus in uinculo pacis. item domino in euangelio dicenti et in illo obtemperare debemus, ubi ait: si neque ecclesiam audierit, sit tibi tamquam ethnicus et publicanus, et in illo, ubi prohibuit colligi zizania, ne simul eradicetur et triticum. potest enim utrumque custodiri ab eis de quibus dictum est: beati pacifici, quoniam ipsi filii dei uocabuntur.
Sed iam cetera quae Parmenianus posuit testimonia uideamus. inter omnia, quibus eorum sacrilegus tumor apparet, . nullo se loco magis aperuit quam in eo, quod ausus est etiam illud ex Hieremia propheta ponere, unde persuaderet hominibus caecis communionem Donatistarum non solum ecclesiam ueram esse, sed etiam talem iam hoc tempore, qualis post ultimam uentilationem ecclesia sancta futura est. cui sacrilegae praesumptioni et nefandae elationi quid addi possit ignoro. et multis quidem locis sermonum suorum nihil aliud praesumere intelleguntur, sed aliquando uerecundantur, cum eos urgere ueritas coeperit, quando interrogantur uel utrum non habeant uel utrum non sint ipsi peccatores.
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Therefore, that precept of the apostle is in no way to be neglected, when it can be done without danger of violating peace, because he himself did not wish it otherwise, that the evil one be separated from the congregation of the good; and that precept of his is especially to be held, that bearing with one another we strive to preserve the unity of spirit in the bond of peace. Likewise, we must obey the Lord in the Gospel where he says: "If he will not hear the church, let him be to you as a heathen and a publican," and also where he forbade gathering the tares, lest the wheat be rooted up together with them. For both can be observed by those of whom it is said: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God."
But let us now look at the remaining testimonies which Parmenianus set forth. Among all the things by which their sacrilegious pride appears, it reveals itself in no place more openly than in that he dared even to set forth that passage from the prophet Jeremiah, whereby he might persuade blind men that the communion of the Donatists is not only the true church, but even such at this time as the holy church will be after the final winnowing. I know not what can be added to this sacrilegious presumption and unspeakable arrogance. And indeed in many places of their discourses they are understood to presume nothing else, but sometimes they are ashamed, when the truth begins to press them, when they are asked either whether they do not have, or whether they themselves are not, sinners.
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uerumtamen in hoc prophetico testimonio inpiam uanitatem suam et nimiam peruersitatem apertissime prodiderunt. cum enim Hieremias sanctus uellet ostendere bonis et malis, etiamsi ad tempus sit congregationis una societas, longe tamen esse disparia momenta morum finemque meritorum, quid paleis, inquit, ad triticum? Parmenianus autem cum uellet Tychonium refellere dicentem malos a bonis in unitate interim pro pace tolerandos et in fine ultimi diuini iudicii separandos, posuit hoc Hieremiae testimonium, quo peruersus atque errans peruersos et errantes ad turbulentissimas et sceleratissimas seditiones inflammet, ut, quisquis inflata mente carnis suae uidetur sibi aliquid esse cum nihil sit, se ac sui similes tamquam grana purgatissima existimans ad ecclesiae congregationem, in qua necesse est ut hi qui ad uitam aeternam pertinent eos qui ad ignem aeternum pertinent usque ad certum finem tamquam frumenta paleam suam tolerent, iam sibi accedendum esse non putent. nullus alius flatus de area Christi leuissimam paleam ante tempus uentilationis excussit, nulla alia praesumptio sacrilega schismata quaecumque ubicumque sunt fecit.
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Nevertheless, in this prophetic testimony they have most openly revealed their impious vanity and excessive perversity. For when the holy Jeremiah wished to show that good and evil, even if for a time they share a single fellowship of congregation, yet the weight of their conduct and the end of their merits are far from equal, he said, "What have the chaff to do with the wheat?" But Parmenianus, wishing to refute Tychonius, who said that the wicked are to be tolerated by the good in unity for the sake of peace in the meantime and separated at the final divine judgment, set forth this testimony of Jeremiah, by which, perverse and erring, he inflames the perverse and erring to the most turbulent and criminal seditions, so that whoever, with the puffed-up mind of his own flesh, seems to himself to be something when he is nothing, thinking himself and his like to be the most purified grains, does not consider that he should approach the congregation of the Church, in which it is necessary that those who belong to eternal life tolerate those who belong to eternal fire up to a certain end, as the grains tolerate their chaff. No other blast from the threshing floor of Christ has shaken out the lightest chaff before the time of winnowing; no other sacrilegious presumption has made whatever schisms exist anywhere.
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Ammonet, inquit, Hieremias sanctissimus et infructuosas et steriles peccantium turbo ab honorata fruge iustorum discernit dicens: quid paleis ad triticum? o tubam furoris, o uocem execrabilis pestilentiae! numquid forte sic errat genus humanum, ut non agnoscat uentilatorem Parmenianum? an et ipse dat locum Donato et ad purgatam per eum massam se uenisse gloriatur? nam ille ante se Maiorinum nescio utrum dignetur agnoscere. an isti tres tamquam tria cornua cuiusdam uentilabri in manu domini fuerunt, per quos messis orbis totius mundaretur, et Africa electa est ubi purgata massa consisteret, cetera autem omnem terram palea separata uestiret? unde ergo tanti greges circumcellionum? unde tantae turbae conuiuiorum ebriosorum et innuptarum sed non incorruptarum innumerabilia stupra feminarum? unde tanta turba raptorum auarorum faeneratorum? unde tam multi per suas quique regiones notissimi tantundem uolentes sed non tantum ualentes Optati? quid ad haec respondetur? non sunt ista? an et hoc triticum est? uae impudentissimae negationi, si aput se ista non esse, uae sceleratissimae peruersitati, si frumenta esse responderint. postremo cur massam purgati tritici post tantae auctoritatis tridentem, id est Maiorinum Donatum Parmenianum, etiam Primianus iterum ausus est uentilare, ut Maximianistas de sua communione separaret? an forte frumenta proiecit?
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He says that the most holy Jeremiah warns and separates the unfruitful and barren throng of sinners from the honored grain of the just, saying: What have the chaff to do with the wheat? O trumpet of fury, O voice of accursed pestilence! Does the human race perhaps err so greatly that it does not recognize Parmenian as a winnower? Or does he himself give place to Donatus and boast that he has come to the mass purified by him? For that man before him, I know not whether he deigns to acknowledge Maiorinus. Or were these three, like three prongs of some winnowing fork in the hand of the Lord, by whom the harvest of the whole world was to be cleansed, and was Africa chosen where the purified mass would settle, while all the rest of the earth was to be clothed with the separated chaff? Whence, then, such great throngs of Circumcelliones? Whence such great crowds of drunken feasts and countless debaucheries of unmarried but not incorrupt women? Whence such a great crowd of rapacious, avaricious, usurious men? Whence so many, in their own regions most notorious, who wish to be but are not as powerful as Optatus? What is answered to these things? Are these not so? Or is this also wheat? Woe to the most shameless denial, if they say these things do not exist among them; woe to the most criminal perversity, if they answer that they are grains. Finally, why did Primian dare to winnow again the mass of purified wheat after the trident of such great authority, that is, Maiorinus, Donatus, Parmenian, so as to separate the Maximianists from his communion? Or did he perhaps cast out grains?
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quid est ergo ipse cum suis qui talia proiecerunt? an ita ista frumenta purgata sunt, ut se inuicem non agnoscant et se inuicem damnando uentilare conentur? potuitne palea baptizare frumenta? si potuit, cur ergo dicunt: quid paleis ad triticum? si autem non potuit, cur Felicianus cum inter paleam Maximianistarum foras uolasset, quotquot illi baptizauit cum eo rursus ad massam illam purgatissimam redierunt et eos omnes intus nunc habent et sibi non dicunt: quid paleis ad triticum?
Iam ergo euigilent aliquando et intellegant quemadmodum propheta dixerit: quid paleis ad triticum? ubi enim dicatur prius considerent, si eis inest qualiscumque sensus humanus. numquid in agro dici potest: quid paleis ad triticum, quando eadem radice portantur? numquid in area, ubi pariter triturantur? sed utique in horreo: quid paleis ad triticum? ueniet enim ille pater familias ferens uentilabrum in manu sua, mundabit aream suam, frumenta recondet in horreum, paleam uero comburet igni inextinguibili. nam per aliam similitudinem omne triticum ouium nomine et omnis palea haedorum nomine significantur, quae duo pecorum genera interim permixta sub uno pastore pascuntur. sed ueniet, inquit, filius hominis cum angelis suis, et congregabuntur ante eum omnes gentes, et separabit eos ab inuicem, sicut pastor separat oues ab haedis. et oues quidem ponet ad dextram, haedos autem ad sinistram.
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What then is he himself with his followers, who have cast out such things? Or have these grains been so purified that they do not recognize one another and try to winnow by condemning one another? Could chaff baptize grain? If it could, why then do they say: What have the chaff to do with the wheat? But if it could not, why did Felicianus, when he had flown outside among the chaff of the Maximianists, and all those he baptized, return again with him to that most purified mass, and now have them all inside, and not say to themselves: What have the chaff to do with the wheat?
Let them therefore finally wake up and understand how the prophet spoke: What have the chaff to do with the wheat? For let them first consider where it is said, if any human sense at all remains in them. Can it be said in the field: What have the chaff to do with the wheat, when they are borne by the same root? Or on the threshing floor, where they are threshed together? But surely in the granary: What have the chaff to do with the wheat? For that father of the household will come, bearing his winnowing fan in his hand; he will clean his threshing floor, store the grain in the granary, and burn the chaff with inextinguishable fire. For by another similitude, all the grain is signified by the name of sheep, and all the chaff by the name of goats, which two kinds of flocks are fed together for a time under one shepherd. But the Son of Man will come, he says, with his angels, and all nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on the right, but the goats on the left.
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et dicet eis qui ad dextram sunt: uenite benedicti patris mei, percipite regnum quod uobis paratum est ab initio mundi. illis autem qui ad sinistram sunt dicet: ite in ignem aeternum, qui paratus est diabolo et angelis eius. tunc ergo implebitur prophetia: quid paleis ad triticum, quando haedis et ouibus non poterit pascua esse communis. si possunt pisces boni piscibus malis intra illam sagenam cui dixit dominus simile esse regnum caelorum dicere: 'recedite a nobis aut recedamus a uobis, donec omnes educantur ad litus et per angelos boni mittantur in uasa, mali autem proiciantur', potest hoc tempore impleri quod dictum est: quid paleis ad triticum? sed qui congregationem suam iam frumentum purgatum putant, a commixtione frumenti et paleae tamquam pura palea uolauerunt, et qui se sub uno pastore non adhuc cum haedis pascere sentiunt, luporum insidiis de grege domini separati sunt, et qui cum malis piscibus se congregatos esse non putant, non solum mali pisces sunt, sed etiam unitatis retia dirruperunt. quodsi iam hoc tempore intellegamus fieri quod Hieremias ait: quid paleis ad triticum, nihil aliud recte intellegere possumus nisi quia in una quidem congregatione sunt, donec in fine uentilationis etiam corporaliter separentur, sed tamen tritico sursum cor est, paleae uero deorsum.
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and he will say to those who are on the right: come, blessed of my father, receive the kingdom that has been prepared for you from the beginning of the world. But to those who are on the left he will say: go into the eternal fire, which is prepared for the devil and his angels. Then, therefore, the prophecy will be fulfilled: what have the chaff to do with the wheat, when goats and sheep will not be able to share a common pasture. If good fish can say to bad fish within that net which the Lord said is like the kingdom of heaven: 'withdraw from us or we from you, until all are brought to the shore and through the angels the good are sent into vessels, but the bad are cast away,' can it be fulfilled at this time that which is said: what have the chaff to do with the wheat? But those who think their congregation is already purified grain have flown away from the mixture of grain and chaff as if they were pure chaff, and those who feel they are not yet feeding with goats under one shepherd have been separated from the Lord's flock by the snares of wolves, and those who think they are not gathered together with bad fish are not only bad fish themselves, but have also broken the nets of unity. But if we understand at this time that what Jeremiah says is happening: what have the chaff to do with the wheat, we can rightly understand nothing else except that they are indeed in one congregation, until at the end of the winnowing they are also physically separated, but nevertheless the wheat has its heart upward, while the chaff is downward.
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palea quippe sua quaerit, non quae Iesu Christi, triticum autem thesaurizat thesaurum in caelo, et ubi est thesaurus eius, ibi et cor eius.
Sicut etiam beati Esaiae uerba intellegenda sunt, quae ille similiter non intellegens ad eandem sui erroris sententiam detorquere conatus est. quid enim ait Esaias? recedite recedite, exite inde et immundum nolite tangere. exite de medio eius et separamini, qui fertis uasa domini. numquid eadem totiens repetenda sunt, quomodo fiat separatio cordis a malis? immundum enim non tangit qui ad peccatum nulli consentit. exit autem inde, ut salua eius causa sit aput deum, si etiam disciplinam corripiendi et arguendi salua pace non neglegat. nam qui uult corporaliter quasi manifestos malos deserere, spiritaliter deserit latentes bonos, quos inexpertos et incognitos cogitur accusare, dum separationem suam conatur defendere.
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He is seeking his own chaff, not that of Jesus Christ; but he stores up the wheat as a treasure in heaven, and where his treasure is, there also is his heart.
The words of the blessed Isaiah are also to be understood in this way, which that man, likewise not understanding, has tried to twist to the same opinion of his own error. For what does Isaiah say? "Depart, depart, go out from there and do not touch the unclean. Go out from its midst and separate yourselves, you who carry the vessels of the Lord." Must the same things be repeated so often, how the separation of the heart from evils takes place? For he does not touch the unclean who consents to no sin. But he goes out from there, so that his case may be safe before God, if he also does not neglect the discipline of correcting and rebuking while preserving peace. For he who wishes to abandon manifestly evil men in a bodily manner, as it were, spiritually abandons hidden good men, whom he is forced to accuse, untried and unknown, while he tries to defend his own separation.
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Sed isti respondeant: si mundus est Felicianus, cur exiit de medio eorum? si uero immundus est, cur modo tangunt immundum? quodsi tunc immundus fuit cum foris esset, quos illic baptizauit immundi sunt, quia immundum tetigerunt. an omnes cum illo remeando mundati sunt? possunt ergo isti mundare foris baptizatos, quos in sua communione non baptizauerint? cur ergo alios rebaptizant? an a trecentis decem Bagai considentibus damnari aliqua forte dignatio est et ideo de toto orbe quisquis ad eos uenerit rebaptizatur, quia non meruit totus orbis istam dignationem, ut Bagaiensi concilio damnaretur? quid ergo? a Maximiano et a ceteris sociis eius ad Primiani communionem non redeuntibus quicumque baptizati uenerint, rebaptizantur an parcitur eis? si rebaptizantur. uiolatur dignatio Bagaiensis — in ea quippe etiam istorum baptizatores damnati sunt —; si autem parcitur eis, rogandi sunt isti, ut rursum ad oppidum Bagaiense conueniant et, si forte ille numerus trecentorum decem iam consecratus est, totidem conueniant et illic sententiam contra totum orbem proferant, sicut aduersus Maximianistas protulerunt, ut, cum uoluerint aliquem rebaptizare ex aliqua orbis parte uenientem, pari priuilegio se defendat asserens ita sibi parci oportere, sicut ei parcitur quem Maximianista baptizat, quia iam non soli Maximianistae, sed etiam totus orbis meruerit concilio Bagaiensi damnari.
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But let them answer: if Felicianus is pure, why did he leave their midst? If, however, he is impure, why do they now touch the impure? And if he was impure then when he was outside, those whom he baptized there are impure, because they touched the impure. Or were all of them purified by returning with him? Can they, then, purify those baptized outside, whom they did not baptize in their own communion? Why, then, do they rebaptize others? Or is condemnation by the three hundred ten assembled at Bagai perhaps some special honor, and therefore whoever from the whole world comes to them is rebaptized, because the whole world did not merit that special honor of being condemned by the Council of Bagai? What then? Are those baptized by Maximianus and his other associates who do not return to the communion of Primianus rebaptized when they come, or are they spared? If they are rebaptized, the honor of the Council of Bagai is violated—for in that council even their baptizers were condemned; if, however, they are spared, these men must be asked to assemble again at the town of Bagai, and, if that number of three hundred ten is now consecrated, let an equal number assemble and there pronounce sentence against the whole world, just as they pronounced it against the Maximianists, so that, when they wish to rebaptize someone coming from some part of the world, he may defend himself by the same privilege, asserting that he ought to be spared just as he is spared whom a Maximianist baptizes, because not only the Maximianists, but also the whole world, has merited condemnation by the Council of Bagai.
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deinde se ipsos a tam magna inuidia liberabunt, ut, cum coeperint iam non rebaptizare in ecclesia baptizatos quae per omnes terras est constituta, si quis eis mouerit quaestionem, cur iam non faciant quod antea faciebant, respondeant: 'quando ista faciebamus, nondum Bagaiensi concilio totum orbem terrarum damnaueramus; nunc autem rogati misericorditer concessimus, ut eos tali concilio damnaremus quali Maximianistas damnauimus, quorum baptismum non repetimus). quid ergo magnum est, quid difficile praestare omnibus gentibus tantam dignationem damnationis? an iterare baptismum orbis terrarum licet et iterare damnationem orbis terrarum non licet? etiam hinc securi sint; non inuenimus quo concilio tot gentes prouinciasque damnauerint. quosdam paucos in Africa damnauerunt, a quibus totius orbis iudicio superati sunt, nec ausi sunt postea damnare iudices aput quos superati sunt. quid enim esset impudentius, quid insanius? multo minus damnare potuerunt etiam in ceteris terrarum partibus constitutos, qui talibus ecclesiasticis iudicibus credere quam uictis litigatoribus maluerunt.
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Then they will free themselves from such great odium, so that, when they have begun no longer to rebaptize those baptized in the church which is established throughout all lands, if someone raises the question why they no longer do what they formerly did, they may answer: 'When we were doing those things, we had not yet condemned the whole world by the Council of Bagai; but now, having been mercifully entreated, we have granted that we should condemn them by such a council as we condemned the Maximianists, whose baptism we do not repeat.' What then is so great, what so difficult, in granting to all nations such a condescension of condemnation? Or is it permissible to repeat the baptism of the whole world, but not permissible to repeat the condemnation of the whole world? Let them also be assured on this point: we do not find by what council they condemned so many nations and provinces. They condemned a few in Africa, by whom they were overcome by the judgment of the whole world, and they did not dare afterwards to condemn the judges before whom they were overcome. For what would be more shameless, what more insane? Much less could they condemn even those established in other parts of the world, who preferred to believe such ecclesiastical judges rather than the defeated litigants.
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et tamen Maximianistarum, quos trecenti et decem Donatistae Bagaiensi concilio damnauerunt, baptismus agnoscitur acceptatur admittitur, orbis terrarum autem, per quem Christi hereditas sic -exhibita est ut promissa est, in qua et ipsi ante paucos annos fuerunt, quem nullo iure damnare potuerunt, nulla saltem concilii peruersitate damnarunt, baptismus improbatur exufflatur iteratur. o sancta damnatio, quam Maximianistae meruerunt, et laboriosa innocentia gentium, quae aput illos propterea christianum nomen amisit, quia talem damnationis locum inuenire non potuit!
Si autem illi soli a Maximianistis uenientes non rebaptizantur qui cum suis baptizatoribus redeunt, sicut hi qui cum Praetextato et Feliciano redierunt, primo uideant, quemadmodum eiusdem schismatis baptismum extra eorum communionem foris aequaliter datum in aliis confirment in aliis exufflent, in parte honorent in parte uiolent. ita enim ubi uiolant rei fiunt, ubi autem confirmant reatus sui testes inueniuntur. si enim sic postea confirmarent, ut iam uiolare desinerent, non discrepatio, sed correctio diceretur; cum autem in quibusdam improbant quod in aliis adprobant, in his accusantur, in illis testimonium contra se dicunt. quaero enim, quare non baptizes eos, quos Felicianus in Maximiani schismate baptizauit: quia Christi baptismum acceperunt an quia Feliciani?
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And yet the baptism of the Maximianists, whom three hundred and ten Donatists condemned at the Council of Bagai, is recognized, accepted, admitted; but the baptism of the whole world, through which the inheritance of Christ was exhibited as it was promised, in which they themselves were only a few years ago, which they could condemn by no right, which they have not condemned even by any perversity of a council, is disapproved, spat upon, repeated. O holy condemnation, which the Maximianists deserved, and the laborious innocence of the nations, which among them lost the Christian name for this reason, because it could not find such a place of condemnation!
But if only those coming from the Maximianists are not rebaptized who return with their baptizers, as those who returned with Praetextatus and Felicianus, let them first see how they confirm the baptism of the same schism given equally outside their communion in some, and spit upon it in others, honor it in part and violate it in part. For thus where they violate, they become guilty; but where they confirm, they are found witnesses of their own guilt. For if they afterwards confirmed in such a way that they already ceased to violate, it would be called not discrepancy, but correction; but when they disapprove in some what they approve in others, in these they are accused, in those they give testimony against themselves. For I ask, why do you not baptize those whom Felicianus baptized in the schism of Maximianus: because they received the baptism of Christ, or because they received the baptism of Felicianus?
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si quia Feliciani, aput Maximianistas eum dedit damnatus, foris extra communionem uestram eum dedit; hoc est ille baptismus quod et Saluii Membressitani et aliorum talium. si autem quia Christi, plus aput te ualet pro baptismo Christi Felicianus in Mustitanis quam ipse Christus in omnibus terris, plus aput te ualet pro baptismo Christi sedens ad latus tuum ex damnato a te quam ille sedens ad dexteram patris ex crucifixo pro te. parcitur in paucissimis baptismo Christi ne Felicianus offendatur, et non parcitur ne ipse Christus in tot gentium milibus exuffletur.
Sed incredibilis est caecitas hominum et omnino nescio quemadmodum credi posset esse in hominibus tanta peruersitas, nisi experimento uerborum suorum factorumque patesceret usque ad(eo) eos clausos habere oculos cordis, ut, cum commemorent sanctae scripturae testimonia, non intueantur in factis prophetarum quemadmodum intellegenda sint uerba prophetarum. dixit Hieremias: quid paleis ad triticum? (num) ipse recederet a paleis populi sui in quas tanta illa uera dicebat? dixit Esaias: recedite recedite, exite inde et immundum nolite tangere. cur ipse in illo populo immunditiam quam grauiter arguebat in una cum eis congregatione tangebat? legant quanta in malos populi sui et quam uehementer ac ueraciter dixerit, a quibus se tamen nulla corporali diremptione separauit.
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If it is because of Felicianus, that he was condemned among the Maximianists, that places him outside your communion; then that baptism is the same as that of Salvius of Membressa and others like him. But if it is because of Christ, then does Felicianus in Musti count more with you for the baptism of Christ than Christ himself in all lands? Does the one sitting at your side, whom you have condemned, count more with you for the baptism of Christ than the one sitting at the right hand of the Father, who was crucified for you? Mercy is shown to the baptism of Christ in a very few, lest Felicianus be offended, and no mercy is shown lest Christ himself be spat upon in so many thousands of nations.
But the blindness of men is incredible, and I do not know at all how such great perversity could be believed to exist in men, were it not revealed by the evidence of their own words and deeds that they have the eyes of their heart so closed that, when they recall the testimonies of holy scripture, they do not observe in the deeds of the prophets how the words of the prophets are to be understood. Jeremiah said: "What is chaff to wheat?" Did he himself withdraw from the chaff of his own people, among whom he spoke such true things? Isaiah said: "Withdraw, withdraw, go out from there and do not touch the unclean." Why did he himself, in that people, touch the uncleanness which he severely denounced, in the same congregation with them? Let them read how much, and how vehemently and truthfully, he spoke against the wicked of his own people, from whom he nevertheless did not separate himself by any physical division.
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dixit Dauid: non sedi in conuenticulo uanitatis et cum facinerosis non introibo. odio habui curiam nequissimorum et cum impiis non sedebo. legant quales ipse temporibus suis in illo populo tolerauerit, qui unctionis mystico sacramento tantum honorem detulit, ut id nec in sceleratissimo Saule contemneret, immo tantum ueneraretur, ut amplius omnino non posset. nonne, si eorum uerba factis eorum obiceremus, responderent nobis: 'nos plane cum talibus nullum habuimus in corde consortium nec tangebamus immundum ubi potest coinquinare contactus, id est consensione atque placito conscientiae recedebamus et exibamus ab eis, quia non solum talia non faciebamus, sed nec facientibus tacebamus'? isti autem seditiosi et insani, qui defensiones praecisionibus suis quaerunt ex oraculis prophetarum, superest ut impietate uesana de uerbis propheticis mores arguant prophetarum. an hoc dicturi sunt, quod illis temporibus recedere iustis a malo populo non licebat, istis uero temporibus licet? quid dici peruersius potest illo tempore non oportuisse bonos a malis corporaliter separari, quando multa sacramenta corporaliter obseruare iubebantur, nunc autem necessariam esse corporalem separationem, quando iam illa spiritaliter obseruantur?
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David said: "I have not sat in a gathering of vanity, and I will not enter with criminals. I have held in hatred the council of the most wicked, and I will not sit with the impious." Let them read what sort of men he himself tolerated in his own times among that people, he who paid such honor to the mystical sacrament of anointing that he did not despise it even in the most criminal Saul, but rather venerated it so much that it could not possibly be more. Would they not, if we were to throw their own words back at them in light of their deeds, answer us: "We plainly had no fellowship in heart with such men, nor did we touch the unclean where contact can defile, that is, we withdrew and departed from them in consent and approval of conscience, because we not only did not do such things, but we were not silent toward those who did them"? But these seditious and mad men, who seek justifications for their own schisms from the oracles of the prophets, it remains for them, in their insane impiety, to accuse the morals of the prophets from the prophetic words. Or will they say this, that in those times it was not permitted for the righteous to withdraw from a wicked people, but in these times it is permitted? What could be more perverse than to say that in that time it was not fitting for the good to be physically separated from the evil, when many sacraments were commanded to be observed physically, but now physical separation is necessary, when those things are now observed spiritually?
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Uae caecis ducentibus et caecis sequentibus! itane non timent ista dicentes, ne forte per tantam latitudinem orbis terrarum, qua fides Christi nomenque diffusum est, antequam se isti separarent, in aliqua parte terrarum ab Africanis regionibus remotissima iam hoc iusti aliqui fecerint, et adhuc isti in immunditiae quam illi fugerant contagione uiuebant? quis enim eis cauet, quis eos securos facit, si huiusmodi a malis separatio facienda est, antequam ab istis fieret, numquam factam fuisse tam longe, ut Afri omnino nescirent, sicut extremis illarum partium terris pars Donati prorsus ignota est? fortasse dicunt obesse sibi non potuisse quod ignorabant. sic ergo et illis terris obesse non potest quod gestum in Africa ignorant, etiamsi uera isti dicerent quae de Afrorum criminibus mentiuntur. si autem dicunt latere se non potuisse, si fieret, modo dicant per omnes orbis terrae partes quot schismata facta sint. nimium est quod interrogo: in ipsa Africa dicant Donatistae Carthaginienses uel quicumque sunt in uicinitate Carthaginis quot partes per Numidiam et Mauretaniam factae sint de ipsa parte Donati.
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Woe to the blind leading and the blind following! Do they not fear saying such things, lest perhaps across such a vast breadth of the whole world, through which the faith and name of Christ have been spread, before these people separated themselves, in some part of the world very far removed from the African regions, some righteous people had already done this, and these people were still living in the contagion of the impurity which those had fled? For who guarantees to them, who makes them secure, if a separation of this kind from the wicked is to be made, that before it was made by them, it had never been made so far away that the Africans were completely unaware of it, just as the Donatist party is utterly unknown in the most distant parts of those regions? Perhaps they say that what they were ignorant of could not harm them. So then, what was done in Africa cannot harm those other lands either, even if these people were telling the truth about what they falsely claim concerning the crimes of the Africans. But if they say that it could not have been hidden from them if it had happened, let them now tell how many schisms have occurred in all parts of the world. It is too much that I ask: let the Donatists of Carthage, or whoever is in the vicinity of Carthage, tell how many factions have been made throughout Numidia and Mauretania from the Donatist party itself.
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quarum omnium causas utique nosse deberent, ne forte iusti aliqui in regionibus suis malorum societatem congregationemque uitauerint et exierint inde, ne immundum tangerent, ne cum facinerosis introirent, ne forte isti iam ante aliquot annos in aliquo angulo Numidiae uel Mauretaniae separantibus se frumentis palea remanserint, et nesciunt. sed unde securi sunt, nisi quia certum habent bonos esse non potuisse qui se ab unitate communionis Donati, quae per totam Africam diffunditur, segregarunt, quia, si malos aliquos in sua uicinitate patiebantur, quos ostendere ceteris non ualebant, eos tolerare potius debuerunt quam diuidere se a tot innocentibus, quibus persuadere non poterant aliena peccata, etiamsi ea ipsi optime nossent? cur ergo haec innocentia non tribuitur orbi terrarum in tanta multitudine ac latitudine gentium quacumque Christi hereditas patet, ut certa atque secura sit eos, qui se bonos dicunt et se ab omnis terrae unitate seiungunt, eo ipso demonstrare quales sint? sibi enim iusti uidentur et spernunt ceteros et ideo non cantant canticum nouum, quia de superbia ueteris hominis extolluntur. ab ea quippe communione separantur cui dictum est: cantate domino canticum nouum, cantate domino omnis terra.
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all the causes of which they certainly ought to know, lest perhaps some just persons in their own regions avoided the society and congregation of the wicked and went out from there, lest they touch the unclean, lest they enter with criminals, lest perhaps these men, some years ago in some corner of Numidia or Mauretania, separating themselves from the grains, remained as chaff, and they do not know. But why are they secure, except that they hold it certain that those who separated themselves from the unity of the Donatist communion, which is spread throughout all Africa, could not have been good, because, if they were suffering some wicked men in their vicinity, whom they were unable to show to the rest, they ought rather to have tolerated them than to divide themselves from so many innocent persons, whom they could not persuade of others' sins, even if they themselves knew them perfectly? Why, then, is this innocence not attributed to the whole world in such a multitude and breadth of nations wherever Christ's inheritance extends, so that it may be certain and secure that those who call themselves good and separate themselves from the unity of the whole earth thereby demonstrate what they are? For they seem just to themselves and despise the rest, and therefore they do not sing the new song, because they are puffed up with the pride of the old man. For they separate themselves from that communion to which it was said: "Sing to the Lord a new song, sing to the Lord, all the earth.
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qui si uere iusti essent, etiam humiles essent; si autem humiles essent, etiamsi uere malos in suae uicinitatis congregatione paterentur, quos ab unitate Christi expellere non ualerent, caritate Christi tolerare deligerent. quomodo autem possunt de his ipsis, quos in sua uicinitate malos arguunt, iustum habere iudicium, cum temeraria caecitate tam longe a se positos ignotissimos criminantur? utrum enim uel ciues suos uel uicinos quos arguunt malos esse nouerint, incertum est orbi terrarum; quia uero ab eis, quorum longe positorum uitam nosse non possunt, temeraria. caecitate separantur, certum est orbi terrarum, et quia cum laude patientiae mali noti tolerantur, ne ignoti boni damnentur, certum est orbi terrarum. quapropter securus iudicat orbis terrarum bonos non esse, qui se diuidunt ab orbe terrarum in quacumque parte terrarum.
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If they were truly just, they would also be humble; if, however, they were humble, even if they suffered truly evil men in the congregation of their own vicinity, whom they were unable to expel from the unity of Christ, they would choose to tolerate them out of Christ’s charity. But how can they have a just judgment concerning those very men whom they accuse of being evil in their own vicinity, when with reckless blindness they accuse utterly unknown persons so far removed from themselves? For whether they know that their own fellow citizens or neighbors whom they accuse are evil is uncertain to the whole world; but that they separate themselves with reckless blindness from those whose lives, being far removed, they cannot know is certain to the whole world, and that known evil men are tolerated with the praise of patience, lest unknown good men be condemned, is certain to the whole world. Therefore the whole world judges with assurance that those who separate themselves from the whole world in any part of the world are not good.
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Postremo si prophetae posteros monuerunt, ut se ante tempus ultimae uentilationis a paleis corporaliter separarent et tali separatione cauerent tangere immundum et cum facinerosis non introirent, cur hoc non fecit Paulus apostolus? an palea non erant qui non ex ueritate, sed ex inuidia Christum annuntiabant? an immundi non erant qui non caste euangelium praedicabant, quos in illius temporis ecclesia fuisse testatur et cuius excellentissimam caritatem omnia tolerantem etiam posteriores imitati sunt? an immunditia non est auaritia, quam Cyprianus corde non tetigit et tamen inter auaros collegas pacatissime uixit? obsurduerat uidelicet aduersus uerba psalmorum, ut sederet in conuenticulo uanitatis et cum facinerosis introiret, odio non haberet curiam malignorum et cum impiis sederet. an non erat conuenticulum uanitatis in eis, qui esurientibus in ecclesia fratribus largissimo argento nitere cupiebant? an non erant facinerosi, qui fundos insidiosis fraudibus rapiebant? an nequissimi et impii non erant, qui usuris multiplicantibus faenus augebant? ille uero lauabat cum innocentibus manus suas et circumdabat altare domini. ideo quippe tolerabat nocentes, ne desereret innocentes cum quibus manus lauabat, quia diligebat speciem domus domini, quae species in uasis honorabilibus erat. in magna autem domo non solum aurea uasa sunt et argentea, sed et lignea et fictilia.
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Finally, if the prophets warned their descendants to separate themselves physically from the chaff before the time of the final winnowing, and by such separation to avoid touching the unclean and not to enter with the criminal, why did the apostle Paul not do this? Or were those who proclaimed Christ not from truth but from envy not chaff? Or were those who did not preach the gospel chastely not unclean—those whom he testifies were in the church of that time, and whose most excellent charity, which endured all things, even later imitators followed? Or is avarice not uncleanness, which Cyprian did not touch in his heart, and yet he lived most peacefully among avaricious colleagues? Had he, you see, grown deaf to the words of the psalms, so that he sat in the meeting-place of vanity and entered with the criminal, did not hate the assembly of the wicked, and sat with the impious? Or was there not a meeting-place of vanity in those who, while brothers in the church were hungry, desired to shine with the most abundant silver? Or were they not criminal who seized estates by deceitful frauds? Or were they not the most wicked and impious who increased usury by multiplying interest? But he washed his hands with the innocent and surrounded the altar of the Lord. Indeed, he tolerated the guilty so as not to abandon the innocent with whom he washed his hands, because he loved the beauty of the house of the Lord, which beauty lay in the honorable vessels. In a great house, however, there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also wooden and earthenware ones.
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et illa quidem sunt in honore, illa autem in contumelia. et mundabat semet ipsum ab huiusmodi, ut esset etiam ipse uas in honore sanctificatum, utile domino, ad omne opus bonum paratum, nec propter uasa quae erant in contumelia se a domo magna separaret, sed eos in unitate illius domus arguens tolerabat a quibus se non imitando mundabat.
Sed nouit ponere Parmenianus uerba prophetae dicentis: non sedi in conuenticulo uanitatis et cum facinerosis non introibo. odio habui curiam nequissimorum. lauabo cum innocentibus manus meas et circumdabo altare domini, ut audiam uocem laudis et enarrem omnia mirabilia tua. domine, dilexi speciem domus tuae et locum tabernaculi claritatis tuae. ne simul perdideris cum peccatoribus animam meam et cum uiris sanguinum uitam 'meam, in quorum manibus delicta sunt, dextera eorum impleta est muneribus. nouit haec ponere Parmenianus et non curat aduertere, quemadmodum his uerbis sine ullo diuisionis nefariae sacrilegio seruiatur. species enim domus et locus tabernaculi claritatis dei in uasis est ut dixi non omnibus, quae tamen in una domo magna sunt, sed in his quae sunt in honore sanctificata, utilia domino, ad omne opus bonum semper parata.
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And those are indeed held in honor, while those are held in dishonor. And he cleansed himself from such things, so that he himself might also be a vessel sanctified in honor, useful to the Lord, prepared for every good work, and he did not separate himself from the great house on account of the vessels that were in dishonor, but, while rebuking them, he tolerated those from whom he cleansed himself by not imitating them, within the unity of that house.
But Parmenian knows how to set forth the words of the prophet who says: "I did not sit in the assembly of vanity, and I will not enter with the wicked. I have hated the court of the most nefarious. I will wash my hands with the innocent and I will surround the altar of the Lord, so that I may hear the voice of praise and recount all your wonders. Lord, I have loved the beauty of your house and the place of the tabernacle of your glory. Do not destroy my soul together with sinners, nor my life with men of blood, in whose hands are crimes, whose right hand is filled with bribes." Parmenian knows how to set these forth and does not take care to notice in what manner these words are served without any sacrilege of nefarious division. For the beauty of the house and the place of the tabernacle of the glory of God is, as I have said, not in all the vessels, which are nevertheless in one great house, but in those that are sanctified in honor, useful to the Lord, always prepared for every good work.
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in his quisquis dilexerit speciem domus dei et locum tabernaculi claritatis eius, tolerat ea quae sunt in contumelia nec propter haec relinquit domum, ne fiat ipse non uas in contumelia, quod tamen in domo toleratur, sed stercus quod de domo proicitur, et propter ipsam temporalem cum malis in una domo congregationem orat dicens: ne simul perdideris cum peccatoribus animam meam et cum uiris sanguinum uitam meam, in quorum manibus delicta sunt, dextera eorum impleta est muneribus, hoc utique orans, ne simul pereat cum his cum quibus eum simul uiuere caritas iubet, cuius sacrificium praemisit dicens: domine, dilexi speciem domus tuae et locum tabernaculi claritatis tuae. quia enim dilexi speciem domus tuae, et propter ipsam dilectionem tolero uasa quae sunt in contumelia, quia caritas omnia tolerat, ne simul cum eis perdideris animam meam. nonne apparet in his uerbis uox illorum, qui per Ezechielem prophetati sunt gemere et maerere ob iniquitates populi quae fiebant in medio eorum et, quia erant uasa in honore, proprium signum accipere meruerunt, ut, cum illi omnes inciperent uastari atque deleri, non deus perderet cum peccatoribus animas eorum?
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In this, whoever has loved the beauty of the house of God and the place of the tabernacle of his glory tolerates those things which are in dishonor, and does not on account of these abandon the house, lest he himself become not a vessel in dishonor, which is nevertheless tolerated in the house, but the filth which is cast out of the house; and on account of this same temporal congregation in one house with the wicked, he prays, saying: "Do not at the same time destroy my soul with sinners and my life with men of blood, in whose hands are crimes, whose right hand is filled with bribes." This he prays, of course, lest he perish together with those with whom charity commands him to live together, whose sacrifice he has set forth, saying: "Lord, I have loved the beauty of your house and the place of the tabernacle of your glory." For because I have loved the beauty of your house, and on account of that same love I tolerate the vessels which are in dishonor, because charity tolerates everything, do not at the same time destroy my soul with them. Does it not appear in these words the voice of those who, through Ezekiel, were prophesied to groan and grieve over the iniquities of the people which were taking place in their midst, and because they were vessels in honor, they merited to receive their own sign, so that, when all those began to be laid waste and destroyed, God would not destroy their souls with the sinners?
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isti autem infelices, qui se ab omnium malorum congregatione tamquam triticum a paleis purgatos esse praesumunt, per istam uanitatem praeiudicauerunt sibi, ut in populis quibus praesunt iniquissimas et flagitiosissimas turbas non audeant corripere ut corrigantur, ne per hoc cogantur confiteri quod mali sunt et dicatur eis: 'certe tritico purgato loquimini: cur ei per has uoces tantam paleam commixtam esse fatemini?' et ideo, quia iusti non sunt, non emendant et arguunt in misericordia, sed oleo adulationis impinguant capita eorum quibus ipsi esse capita uolunt, quoniam sub uno capite quod in caelo est in unitate corporis quod per totam terram est esse nolunt, ut merito plebibus eorum dicatur: qui uos felices dicunt, in errorem uos mittunt et conturbant semitas pedum uestrorum.
Qui ergo non uult sedere in conuenticulo uanitatis, non euanescat tyfo superbiae quaerens conuenticula iustorum a totius orbis unitate separata, quae non potest inuenire. iusti enim per uniuersam ciuitatem quae abscondi non potest, quia super montem constituta est — montem illum dico Danihelis in quem lapis ille praecisus sine manibus creuit et impleuit uniuersam terram —, per totam ergo istam ciuitatem toto orbe diffusam iusti gemunt et maerent ob iniquitates quae fiunt in medio eorum. non ergo quaerat separatos iustos, sed cum ipsis potius in malorum temporali commixtione concorditer gemat.
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But these wretches, who presume that they have been cleansed like wheat from chaff from the congregation of all the wicked, have by this vanity prejudiced themselves, so that among the peoples over whom they preside they dare not rebuke the most unjust and shameful crowds in order to correct them, lest by this they be forced to confess that they are evil and it be said to them: 'Surely you speak as purified wheat: why do you admit through these words that so much chaff is mixed in with you?' And therefore, because they are not just, they do not correct and reprove in mercy, but with the oil of flattery they anoint the heads of those over whom they themselves wish to be heads, since they are unwilling to be under the one head which is in heaven in the unity of the body which is throughout the whole earth, so that it may rightly be said to their congregations: those who call you happy lead you into error and disturb the paths of your feet.
Therefore, whoever does not wish to sit in the conventicle of vanity, let him not vanish in the pride of arrogance seeking conventicles of the just separated from the unity of the whole world, which cannot be found. For the just throughout the whole city which cannot be hidden, because it is built on a mountain—that mountain of Daniel I mean, on which that stone cut without hands grew and filled the whole earth—throughout this entire city, then, spread throughout the whole world, the just groan and grieve over the iniquities which are committed in their midst. Therefore, let him not seek separated just men, but rather groan in concord with them in the temporal mixture of the wicked.
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non enim sedebit in conuenticulo uanitatis, quia ibi sedebit ubi conuersatur, audiet autem dicentem apostolum: conuersatio nostra in caelis est. ibi cum facinerosis non erit, ibi curiam nequissimorum non patietur, ibi cum impiis non sedebit. in tali spe habitet, ut ad rem cuius nunc habet spem peruenire aliquando mereatur. non enim iam resurreximus sicut Christus aut iam cum illo sedemus in caelestibus, et tamen quia talem spem nobis dedit et per ipsam spem iam quodammodo ibi conuersamur, dicit apostolus: si autem resurrexistis cum Christo quae sursum sunt quaerite, ubi Christus estin dextera dei sedens. quae sursum sunt sapite, non quae super terram. mortui enim estis et uita uestra abscondita est cum Christo in deo. in illa uita nostra, quae abscondita est cum Christo in deo, non sedemus in conuenticulo uanitatis, quia, sicut idem apostolus dicit, simul nos excitauit et simul sedere fecit in caelestibus, sed in spe, nondum in re. spes autem quae uidetur non est spes. quod enim uidet quis, quid sperat? si autem quod non uidemus speramus, per patientiam expectamus. quam patientiam isti miseri perdiderunt et festinantes se ante tempus uelut a palea separare se ipsos esse leuissimam paleam uento ablatam de area demonstrarunt. quod ergo ait Sapientia teneamus: qui autem me audit, habitabit in spe et silebit sine timore ab omni malignitate.
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For he will not sit in the conventicle of vanity, because he will sit where his conversation is; but he will hear the apostle saying: our conversation is in heaven. There he will not be with criminals, there he will not endure the court of the wicked, there he will not sit with the impious. Let him dwell in such hope, that he may one day merit to attain to the reality of which he now has hope. For we have not yet risen as Christ has, nor do we yet sit with him in the heavens, and yet because he has given us such hope, and through that hope we already in a certain sense dwell there, the apostle says: if you have risen with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ sits at the right hand of God. Savour the things that are above, not those upon the earth. For you are dead, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. In that life of ours, which is hidden with Christ in God, we do not sit in the conventicle of vanity, because, as the same apostle says, he has raised us up together and made us sit together in the heavens, but in hope, not yet in reality. But hope that is seen is not hope. For what does a man see, that he hopes for? But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait with patience. This patience these wretches have lost, and by hastening to separate themselves from the chaff before the time, they have shown themselves to be the lightest chaff, carried away from the threshing-floor by the wind. Therefore let us hold what Wisdom says: but he who hears me will dwell in hope and will be silent without fear from all malice.
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dum ergo habitamus in spe cogitantes non quod sumus sed quod erimus, quia filii dei quidem sumus, sed nondum apparuit quod erimus, quia cum apparuerit similes ei erimus, quoniam uidebimus eum sicuti est, in tali spe habitantes, quia haec habitatio cogitationis non habet malos, nec conuenticula uanitatis nec facinerosos nec iniquos nec impios patimur; et eos tamen non in spe, sed in re quae uidetur patimur, in congregatione catholica toto orbe diffusa, donec transeat iniquitas, donec tempore messis zizania colligantur, donec ultimo uentilabro a frumento palea separetur, donec pisces boni a piscibus malis, cum quibus intra eadem retia congregati sunt, in litore seligantur, donec haedi ab ouibus, cum quibus sub uno pastore in eisdem pascuis tamdiu pauerunt, ad sinistram in ultimo segregentur.
Nulla est igitur securitas unitatis nisi ex promissis dei ecclesia declarata, quae super montem ut dictum est constituta abscondi non potest et ideo necesse est omnium terrarum partibus nota sit.
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While we dwell in hope, therefore, thinking not of what we are but of what we shall be—for we are indeed sons of God, but what we shall be has not yet appeared, because when it appears we shall be like him, since we shall see him as he is—in such a dwelling of hope we suffer no evil men, no conventicles of vanity, no criminals, no iniquitous, no impious; and yet we suffer them not in hope, but in the reality which is seen, in the catholic congregation spread throughout the whole world, until iniquity passes away, until at harvest time the tares are gathered, until at the final winnowing the chaff is separated from the grain, until the good fish are selected from the bad fish with which they were gathered within the same nets on the shore, until the goats are separated from the sheep with which they have so long grazed under one shepherd in the same pastures, to be set apart on the left at the last.
There is therefore no security of unity except from the promises of God, the church declared, which, as has been said, established on the mountain cannot be hidden, and therefore must be known in all parts of the earth.
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inconcussum firmumque teneamus nullos bonos ab ea se posse diuidere, id est nullos bonos, etiamsi cognitos sibi malos patiantur, ubicumque uersantur, propter eos se a longe positis et incognitis bonis temerario schismatis sacrilegio separare, ut, in quacumque parte terrarum uel facta sunt ista uel fiunt uel futura sunt, ceteris terrarum partibus longe positis et utrum facta sint uel cur facta sint ignorantibus et tamen cum orbe terrarum in unitatis uinculo permanentibus ea ipsa sit firma securitas, non hoc potuisse facere nisi aut superbiae tumore furiosos aut inuidentiae liuore uaesanos aut saeculari commoditate corruptos aut carnali timore peruersos. quibus omnibus causis efficitur, ut uel boni falsis criminibus infamentur uel temere de bonis falsa credantur uel etiam mali, qui pro unitatis uinculo tolerati nihil obsunt bonis, disrupta bonorum pace peruersissime fugiantur, cum uexationi frumentorum non parcitur, usurpantibus sibi hominibus ante messem quod angeli in messe facturi sunt.
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We hold firmly and unshaken that no good persons can be separated from her, that is, no good persons, even if they endure evil persons known to them, wherever they may be, can on account of them separate themselves by the reckless sacrilege of schism from good persons unknown to them and placed far away, so that, in whatever part of the world these things have been done or are being done or will be done, for the other parts of the world placed far away and ignorant whether they have been done or why they have been done, and yet remaining with the whole world in the bond of unity, this very thing is a firm security: that this could not have been done except by those who are either mad with the swelling of pride, or insane with the venom of envy, or corrupted by worldly advantage, or perverted by carnal fear. By all these causes it is brought about that either good persons are defamed by false accusations, or false things are rashly believed about good persons, or even evil persons, who, tolerated for the sake of the bond of unity, do no harm to the good, are most perversely shunned when the peace of the good is broken, while the vexation of the wheat is not spared, as men usurp for themselves before the harvest what the angels will do at the harvest.
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Quae cum ita sint, audent etiam sacrilega schismata uel haereses impiae, si quo in flagello ut se corrigant ammonentur, poenas furoris sui etiam inter martyria deputare. quod existimans etiam Parmenianus in fine epistulae suae exhortatur Tychonium, ut in parte Donati permaneat et persecutiones perferat, dicens non se debere uoluntate coniungi eis quibus persecutione cogente non iuncti sunt, adhibens etiam testimonium scripturae dicentis: uae his qui perdiderunt sustinentiam et deuerterunt in uias prauas! et quid facient, cum inspicere coeperit dominus? more suo cuncta de diuinis libris aduersus se ipsos proponens. qui enim sustinentiam perdiderunt, nisi qui eos, quos de criminibus quae obiciebant conuincere nequiuerunt, pro pace Christi tolerare noluerunt, ut sero postea cogitantes ipsam partem suam non esse per multas particulas diuidendam, etiam sibi manifestissimos sacrilegos quos ipsi damnarunt rursus receptos pro falsa Donati pace tolerarent? et nunc iam tandem aliquando cognoscant et corrigant, quod se impie fecisse ex eo saltem quod a Maximiano passi sunt didicerunt. sed scilicet erubescant manifestissimis rationibus corrigi, quia imperatorum iussionibus restiterunt, ne illa quae se conqueruntur fuisse perpessos correcti perdidisse uideantur. quasi non melius perdunt illa quam pereunt.
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Since these things are so, they even dare to count the sacrilegious schisms or impious heresies, if they are admonished by some scourge to correct themselves, among the martyrdoms as penalties for their own madness. Parmenianus also, thinking this, at the end of his letter exhorts Tychonius to remain in the party of Donatus and endure persecutions, saying that he ought not to join willingly with those to whom he was not joined under compulsion of persecution, also adducing the testimony of Scripture saying: "Woe to those who have lost endurance and have turned aside into crooked paths! And what will they do when the Lord begins to inspect?" In his usual manner, he sets forth everything from the divine books against themselves. For who have lost endurance, if not those who, unable to convict those whom they accused of crimes, refused to tolerate them for the sake of Christ's peace, so that later, after thinking, they themselves divided their own party not into many small factions, and even tolerated the most manifest sacrilegious persons whom they themselves had condemned, received back again for the false peace of Donatus? And now at last let them finally recognize and correct what they have impiously done, at least from what they have learned from what they suffered from Maximianus. But of course they blush to be corrected by the most manifest reasons, because they resisted the commands of the emperors, lest they seem to have lost what they complain they suffered, corrected. As if it is not better that they lose those things than that they perish.
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si enim habet aliquam umbram et quamuis falsam atque fallacem, tamen nonnullam imaginem fortitudinis iubenti non cedere imperatori, cuius uel humanae laudis inlecebra est apertissimae contradicere ueritati? cur clausis oculis tam multa de scripturis testimonia proferunt, quae intellecta et contra se prolata repudiant, quae si secundum illorum intellectum accipiantur nihilominus eos de sua peruersitate conuincunt? nonne scriptum est: non contradicas ueritati ullo modo? cui autem nisi ueritati contradicitur, cum etiam regi ex ueritate aliquid iubenti resistitur? sed rex homo quod minatur uel quod uindicat ad tempus molestum est; non sic ille rex qui etiam ueritas dicitur, qui nunc quoque illis per prophetam clamat: sine causa percuaai filios uestros, disciplinam non receperunt, qui propterea per humanas potestates nunc misericorditer ammonet, ne in fine sic uindicet, ut non se possint superbi de sua damnatione iactare. sub uindicta enim regum potest hominum pertinacia falso nomine uirtutis uelle laudari; aeternis autem ignibus concremari nec erit nec uocabitur fortitudo. non enim erunt in illa die, qui caput ungant oleo adulationis aut uana decepti fallacia coronas somnient damnatorum, dicentes 'euge euge' et iurantes per canos eorum, qui caput sanum non habuerunt, et per campagos eorum, qui uiam pacis non agnouerunt.
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For if it has some shadow, and although false and deceptive, yet some image of fortitude in not yielding to an emperor who commands, what enticement of even human praise is there in openly contradicting the truth? Why do they bring forward so many testimonies from the scriptures with closed eyes, which, when understood and brought against themselves, they reject, and which, if accepted according to their understanding, nonetheless convict them of their own perversity? Is it not written: "Do not contradict the truth in any way"? But to whom is contradiction made, if not to the truth, when even a king who commands something in accordance with the truth is resisted? But the human king, what he threatens or what he avenges is troublesome for a time; not so that King who is also called Truth, who even now cries out to them through the prophet: "I have struck your sons in vain; they have not received discipline," who now mercifully warns through human powers, lest in the end he avenge in such a way that the proud cannot boast of their own condemnation. For under the vengeance of kings, human obstinacy can wish to be praised under the false name of virtue; but to be burned in eternal fires will neither be nor be called fortitude. For there will not be on that day those who anoint the head with the oil of flattery or, deceived by vain falsehood, dream of crowns of the damned, saying "Bravo, bravo" and swearing by the gray hair of those who did not have a sound head, and by the sandals of those who did not know the way of peace.
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quales turbas isti auertentes a Christi unitate et ad suum nomen conuertere cupientes interim temporalia supplicia schismatis sui conferre audent passionibus martyrum, ut eis poenarum suarum natalicia celebrentur magno conuentu hominum furiosorum, quorum e numero illi sunt, qui etiam nullo persequente se ipsos ultro per montium abrupta praecipitant, ut malam uitam peiore morte consumant. non erunt in illa die stultae plebes quibus dicatur: nos sumus iusti qui patimur persecutionem' et caecis uendatur reprobus lapis pro gemma pretiosa, id est carnalis duritia pro spiritali patientia. non erunt qui nomina principum furoris sui recitent ad altaria, uel quae ab unitate Christi diuiserunt uel quae sub nomine Christi contra ecclesiam Christi erexerunt haec sunt enim pretia, quae isti ut accipiant, dum uolunt habere quod uendant, excitant aduersum se potestatum seueritatem per animosam peruersitatem, nec illi qui ab eis seducuntur et eos propterea iustos putant, quia poenas iniquitatis exsoluunt, redeunt ad cor et considerant, quare patiantur quae se pati gloriantur.
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What crowds do these men, turning them away from the unity of Christ and desiring to convert them to their own name, in the meantime dare to compare the temporal punishments of their schism to the passions of the martyrs, so that the anniversaries of their own penalties are celebrated with a great gathering of madmen, among whose number are those who, even with no one persecuting them, of their own accord hurl themselves over mountain precipices, in order to end a bad life with a worse death. On that day there will be no foolish crowds to whom it is said: “We are the just who suffer persecution,” and to whom a reprobate stone is sold for a precious gem, that is, carnal hardness for spiritual patience. There will be none who recite the names of the leaders of their madness at the altars, either those which they have separated from the unity of Christ or those which they have erected under the name of Christ against the Church of Christ. For these are the prices which, in order that they may receive them, while they wish to have something to sell, they provoke the severity of the authorities against themselves through their headstrong perversity; nor do those who are seduced by them and who therefore consider them just, because they pay the penalties of iniquity, return to their hearts and consider why they suffer what they boast of suffering.
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quantum enim erat, ut paululum aduerterent talia dicere Parmenianum Tychonio de perferendis persecutionibus et gloria tolerantiae, qualia dicunt omnes haeretici, de quibus cohercendis uel puniendis similia regum iussa proferuntur, qualia certe iam Membressitanis suis dicit etiam Saluius, cui tantas Abitinenses plagas et contumelias intulerunt, per quos isti meruerant ut de ecclesia pelleretur, ut eius ceruici etiam mortuorum canum cadauera colligarent, ut postremo cum illo ad turpes uoces cantionesque saltarent. quem sermonem, posteaquam tanta perpessus est, eum putamus habuisse cum suis quos miseros decepit, ut alteram sibi basilicam fabricarent? quanta dixit de iustitia sua pro qua talia perpeti meruit, ideo se sanctum persuadens quia passus est, ideo illos iniquissimos quia fecerunt? Tuscorum tyrannorum commemoratur antiqua crudelitas, quod mortua uiuis sed humana humanis corpora coniungebant; canina uero humanis et hoc episcopalibus membris nescio utrum quisquam se uel audisse umquam uel legisse commemoret. notum est omnibus nugaces et turpes saltationes ab episcopis solere compesci; quis umquam meminit ab hominibus, quos in auxilium episcopi petiuerunt, cum episcopis esse saltatum? an forte Saluius tunc non erat episcopus, quia damnatio eius in Bagaiensis concilii sententia recitatur? quid?
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For how little would it have been, if they had only paid a little attention, that Parmenian says such things to Tychonius about enduring persecutions and the glory of tolerance, as all heretics say, concerning whose restraint or punishment similar royal edicts are issued; such things as certainly Salvius now says to his own Membressitans, to whom the Abitinians inflicted so many blows and insults, through whom these men had deserved to be driven from the church, to have the carcasses of dead dogs tied around his neck, and finally to dance with him to shameful songs and chants. What speech do we think he had with his own, whom he miserably deceived, after he had suffered so much, so that they built another basilica for themselves? How much did he say about his own justice, for which he deserved to suffer such things, thereby persuading them that he was holy because he had suffered, and that those others were most unjust because they had done it? The ancient cruelty of the Etruscan tyrants is recalled, that they joined dead bodies to living, but human to human; but canine to human, and this to episcopal limbs, I do not know whether anyone can recall ever having heard or read of it. It is well known that frivolous and shameful dances are usually restrained by bishops; who ever remembers that men, whom bishops sought as auxiliaries, danced with bishops? Or was Salvius not then a bishop, because his condemnation is recited in the sentence of the Council of Bagai? What then?
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si et ipse postea reconciliaretur Primiano, sicut ei reconciliatus est Felicianus eiusdem plenarii concilii ueridico ore damnatus, sicut ibi eorum uerba recitantur, tunc esset episcopus, an forte non admitteretur, quia sacrilegium schismatis quem coinquinauerit potest mundari, sicut potuit Felicianus, quem uero canes mortui collo suspensi immundum fecerint non potest expiari? uellem scire quid ad haec dicunt tam manifesta tam publica tam recentia, qui nobis antiquas calumnias suas quasi nostra crimina obiciunt. quisquis eorum arbitratur me falsa iactare, quid magnum est, quid difficile, ut animae suae curam gerens pergat Membressam, quaerat an facta sint ista et defendat, si potest? si enim dicit recte ista schismaticis fieri quos trecenti et decem Donatistae episcopi damnauerunt, non murmurent quando aliqua patiuntur, quamuis numquam talia passi sint, quos ab unitate Christi schisma fecisse non trecentorum et decem, sed totius orbis auctoritate conuincimus. si autem dicit leuia esse quae passus est Saluius, quaero utrum, si aliquem Donatistarum episcoporum saltare cogeret imperator et nolenti facere bestias ignesque minaretur, non mallet illa perpeti quam illud admittere, et cum passus esset, utrum non eum isti inter sanctos martyres recitarent. grauiora ergo passus est Saluius, cum quo saltatum est, quam si uiuus arsisset.
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If he himself were later reconciled to Primianus, just as Felicianus was reconciled to him, though condemned by the truthful mouth of that same plenary council, as their words are recited there, would he then be a bishop, or would he perhaps not be admitted, because the sacrilege of schism, which has polluted someone, can be cleansed, as Felicianus could be, but one whom dead dogs hung around the neck have made unclean cannot be purified? I would like to know what they say to these things, so manifest, so public, so recent, who cast their ancient calumnies at us as if they were our crimes. If any of them thinks I am making false boasts, what is so great, what is so difficult, that, caring for his own soul, he should go to Membressa, inquire whether these things were done, and defend them if he can? For if he says that these things are rightly done to schismatics whom three hundred and ten Donatist bishops condemned, let them not murmur when they suffer something, although they have never suffered such things, whom we convict of having made a schism from the unity of Christ by the authority not of three hundred and ten, but of the whole world. But if he says that what Salvius suffered is trivial, I ask whether, if the emperor were to force some Donatist bishop to dance and threaten him with beasts and fires if he refused, he would not prefer to suffer those things rather than to submit to that, and when he had suffered, would not these people recite him among the holy martyrs? Therefore, Salvius suffered worse things, with whom dancing was done, than if he had been burned alive.
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nam si cuiquam eorum haec duo proponerentur, utrum mallet non ipse saltare sed saltari secum quam uiuus incendi, non dubitatur quid eum electurum esse respondeant. si autem dicit nihil aliud impetrasse a proconsule Primianistas. nisi ut per Abitinenses Saluius de basilica pelleretur, illos autem sua sponte fecisse quidquid ei postea crudeliter turpiterque fecerunt, cur non sibi dicit sic etiam posse catholicos nihil aliud ab imperatoribus petere, nisi ut isti de basilicis quas nomine sacrilego retinent excludantur, illos autem sua sponte regia potestate et honestate seruata in sacrilegos uindicare multo mitius, quam Abitinenses nulla imperiali lege, nulla iudiciaria iussione in Membressitanum Saluium uindicarunt? quibus rebus consideratis prius quid faciant et postea quid patiantur aduertant, ne, cum aduersus facta sua oculos claudunt et ad poenas suas oculos aperiunt, et hic frustra temporalia patiantur et in ultimo iudicio dei etiam pro hoc ipso, quod frustra eos talibus molestiis ut emendaret ammonuit, aeterno supplicio puniantur. non uetera replico, ubi fallunt quos possunt; breuiter dico, praesentia ingero, digito ostendo: damnati Maximianistae recipiuntur, ignotae gentes arguuntur; Maximianistarum baptismus acceptatur, orbis terrarum baptismus exufflatur.
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if either of these two options were put to any of them—whether they would prefer not to dance themselves but to be danced with, rather than be burned alive—there is no doubt what they would answer they would choose. But if he says that the Primianists obtained nothing from the proconsul except that Salvius be driven from the basilica by the Abitinians, and that they themselves did of their own accord whatever they afterward did to him cruelly and shamefully, why does he not say to himself that Catholics too can ask nothing else from the emperors except that these men be excluded from the basilicas which they hold with sacrilegious name, and that they themselves, of their own accord, preserving royal power and honor, take vengeance on the sacrilegious much more mildly than the Abitinians, with no imperial law, no judicial order, took vengeance on Membressitanus Salvius? Let them consider these matters, first what they do and afterward what they suffer, lest, while they close their eyes to their own deeds and open their eyes to their own sufferings, they suffer temporal things here in vain and in the final judgment of God be punished with eternal punishment even for this very thing, that He warned them to correct themselves through such troubles in vain. I do not rehearse old matters, where they deceive whom they can; I speak briefly, I thrust present matters forward, I point with my finger: the condemned Maximianists are received, unknown peoples are accused; the baptism of the Maximianists is accepted, the baptism of the whole world is spat upon.
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ecce Assuritani, ecce Mustitani, ecce non longe mortuus Praetextatus, ecce adhuc uiuus Felicianus, ecce nomina eorum inter damnatos Bagaiensi concilio gestis proconsularibus allegata; talibus recentibus et praesentibus factis quales ab initio fuerint satis indicant. si quid pro huiusmodi peruersitatibus et iniquitatibus patiuntur, si nolunt corrigi, saltem non audeant gloriari.
AVGVSTINI RETRICTATIONVM LIB. II CAP. XLIII (XVII)
(PAG. 151, ED. KNOELL). CONTRA EPISTULAM PARMENIANI LIBRI TRES.
In quibusdam libris contra epistulam Parmeniani, Donatistarum Carthaginiensis episcopi successorisque Donati, quaestio noua uersatur et soluitur, utrum in unitate eorundem communione sacramentorum mali contaminent bonos et quemadmodum non contaminent disputatur propter ecclesiam toto orbe diffusam, cui calumniando scisma fecerunt.
In quorum libro tertio, cum dissereretur, quomodo sit accipiendum, quod ait apostolus: auferte malum ex uobis ipsis, illud, quod dixi: ut ex se ipso quisque auferat malum, non sic esse intellegendum, sed sic potius, ut homo malus auferatur ex hominibus bonis, quod fit per ecclesiasticam disciplinam, sicut graeca lingua indicat, ubi sine ambiguitate scriptum est, ut intellegatur: 'hominem malum), non: 'hoc malum', quamuis et secundum istum intellectum responderim Parmeniano.
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Behold the Assuritani, behold the Mustitani, behold the recently deceased Praetextatus, behold Felicianus still alive, behold their names among the condemned listed in the proconsular acts of the Council of Bagai; such recent and present deeds sufficiently indicate what they were like from the beginning. If they suffer anything on account of such perversities and iniquities, if they are unwilling to be corrected, at least let them not dare to boast.
AUGUSTINE, RETRACTATIONS, BOOK II, CHAPTER 43 (17)
(PAGE 151, KNOELL EDITION). THREE BOOKS AGAINST THE Letter of Parmenian.
In certain books against the Letter of Parmenian, the Donatist bishop of Carthage and successor of Donatus, a new question is discussed and resolved: whether in the unity of the same communion of sacraments the wicked contaminate the good, and how they do not contaminate, is argued on behalf of the church spread throughout the whole world, against which they made a schism by slandering.
In the third book of these, when it was being discussed how the Apostle’s saying is to be understood: “Remove evil from yourselves,” that which I said: that each person removes evil from himself, is not to be understood in that way, but rather in this way: that a bad man is removed from good men, which is done through ecclesiastical discipline, as the Greek language indicates, where it is written without ambiguity so that it is understood as “a bad man,” not “this evil,” although I also responded to Parmenian according to that interpretation.
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Hoc opus sic incipit: Multa quidem alias aduersus Donatistas.
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This work begins thus: Many things indeed elsewhere against the Donatists.