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Claudianus Mamertus's 'De Statu Animae' (On the State of the Soul) is a fifth-century Latin treatise defending the incorporeality of the soul against Faustus of Riez. Composed ca. 468–472 CE in southern Gaul, the work engages Neoplatonic philosophy mediated through Augustine, arguing that the soul is immaterial and immortal. It survives in a single manuscript tradition, with the earliest witness a ninth-century codex (Paris, BnF lat. 13379). The treatise was edited by Engelbrecht in CSEL 11 (1885) and influenced later medieval thinkers such as John Scotus Eriugena and William of Auvergne. Claudianus's arguments rely on Plotinus and Porphyry, making the text a key source for early medieval Latin philosophical psychology.
'De Statu Animae' is a pivotal text in early medieval Latin philosophical psychology, bridging late antique Neoplatonism and medieval Scholasticism. It shaped debates on the soul's incorporeality and immortality, influencing John Scotus Eriugena and later thinkers like William of Auvergne. The treatise also provides insight into fifth-century Gallic theological controversies and the transmission of Augustinian thought.
Historical context
Claudianus Mamertus (d. ca. 474) was a Gallo-Roman priest and brother of the bishop Mamertus of Vienne. He wrote 'De Statu Animae' between 468 and 472 CE, during theological controversies in southern Gaul, particularly against Faustus of Riez (d. ca. 495), who argued for the corporeality of the soul. The treatise responds to Faustus's letter and reflects debates at the Council of Arles (ca. 473). Claudianus draws on Neoplatonic sources (Plotinus, Porphyry) via Augustine, and the work survives in a single manuscript tradition, with the earliest witness a ninth-century codex (Paris, BnF lat. 13379). The text was edited by Engelbrecht in CSEL 11 (1885) and cited by John Scotus Eriugena in the ninth century, influencing Carolingian and Scholastic discussions on the soul's nature.
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EPISTVLA FAVSTI.
Quaeris a me, reuerendissime sacerdotum, quo modo Arianis respondendum sit, qui blasphemo ore conantur adserere: non potest, inquiunt, fieri, nisi ut iunior sit genitus ab singenito. iuxta quae totum silentium quasi iussus absoluere non tam pro rei instructione quam pro fidei confessione praesumam id primitus obseruans, ne res per se obscuras studio conpositi sermonis inuoluam, sed quaedam pauperis sensus indicia, quae non tam ornatui quam intellectui uideantur seruire, depromam. respondeo ergo sicut respondere discipuli magistris interrogantibus solent. itaque ad praeceptum beatitudinis uestrae loquor, ut discutias inperitiam, contestor ut doceas. nam apud eruditissimum si reticeam, uix possum scire quid nesciam. De ingenito locuturi scire debemus aliud esse rerum substantias, aliud rerum nomina, sicut uerbi gratia cum aurum atque argentum dixeris, non statim metallum ipsum, sed metalli uocabula protulisti. etenim aurum aliud est in proprietate generis, aliud in adpellatione sermonis, aliud est cum illud nominamus, aliud cum tenemus.
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LETTER OF FAUSTUS.
You ask me, most reverend of priests, how one should respond to the Arians, who with blasphemous mouth attempt to assert: "It cannot be," they say, "that the one born should not be younger than the unbegotten." In accordance with this, as if commanded to discharge a total silence, I will presume, not so much for the instruction of the matter as for the confession of faith, first observing this, that I not obscure things obscure in themselves by the pursuit of composed speech, but rather set forth certain indications of a poor understanding, which seem to serve not so much ornament as understanding. I therefore respond as disciples are accustomed to respond to questioning teachers. Thus, I speak at the command of your blessedness, so that you may examine my inexperience; I call upon you to teach. For if I remain silent before the most learned, I can scarcely know what I do not know. About to speak of the unbegotten, we ought to know that it is one thing to be the substances of things, another thing to be the names of things, just as, for example, when you have said "gold" and "silver," you have not immediately uttered the metal itself, but the names of the metal. For gold is one thing in the property of its kind, another in the appellation of speech; it is one thing when we name it, another when we hold it.
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Genitus et ingenitus significatio est deitatis, non ipsa deitas, naturae est adpellatio, non natura. ingeniti et geniti nuncupatio ad hoc ualet, ut quis ex quo subsistat intellegas et non patrem ex filio, sed filium ex patre esse cognoscas. principium ex principio et unum est et initio caret, quo modo si dicas: deus ex deo, non tamen duo dii, sed unus dicitur. genitus ergo, ingenitus et ex utroque procedens personas indigitat, non naturas. maiestas enim, -quae patri est indiscreta cum filio et spiritu sancto, distingui nominibus potest, ordinari gradibus non potest.
Hoc loco praescius oportet intentionem mentis admoueas. dicis forsitan: quia ex illo est, posterior illo est. age ad haec intellectum nostrum aliquibus conparationibus nutriamus. uideamus si aliqua res ex alia exsistat, quae tamen illa ex qua exsistit non sit aetate posterior. uerbi gratia hoc ipsum filii nomen ex patris deriuari nomine creditur, nec tamen posterius inuenitur, quia nisi iste nasceretur, pater ille non diceretur. ecce nomen, quod absolute coaeuum illi est a quo est, et cum filius ex patre sit, patri nomen filius facit: adquirit genitori uocabulum pietatis persona nascentis. cum hoc ex illo sit, nec hoc posterius nec aliud probatur antiquius, et cum brachii nomine filius ex operum uirtutibus nuncupetur, ecce brachium procedit ex corpore, et tamen brachii aetas corporis non praecedit.
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Begotten" and "unbegotten" is a designation of divinity, not divinity itself; it is an appellation of nature, not nature itself. The naming of "unbegotten" and "begotten" serves this purpose: that you may understand from what source someone subsists, and recognize that the Father is not from the Son, but the Son is from the Father. A principle from a principle is both one and lacks a beginning, just as if you say: "God from God," yet not two gods, but one is spoken of. Therefore, "begotten," "unbegotten," and that which proceeds from both indicate persons, not natures. For the majesty—which is undivided in the Father with the Son and the Holy Spirit—can be distinguished by names, but cannot be ordered by degrees.
At this point, it is necessary that you apply the intention of your mind with foreknowledge. You perhaps say: "Because he is from him, he is later than him." Come, let us nourish our understanding on this with some comparisons. Let us see if there is any thing that exists from another, which yet is not later in age than that from which it exists. For example, the very name "Son" is believed to be derived from the name "Father," yet it is not found to be later, because unless this one were born, that one would not be called "Father." Behold a name which is absolutely coeval with that from which it comes, and although the Son is from the Father, the Son makes the name "Father" for the Father: the person being born acquires the title of piety for the begetter. Since this is from that, neither is this later nor is the other proven to be older, and when the Son is called by the name "arm" from the virtues of works, behold the arm proceeds from the body, and yet the age of the arm does not precede that of the body.
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uerbum ex uoce profertur, et tamen cum ex ore nascatur, uoce esse posterius non probatur. ignis et caloris indiuisa societas: sed cum calor indubitanter ex igne esse intellegatur, tamen ignis nequaquam calore suo prior esse dinoscitur. ecce rem, quae exsistere uidetur ex illa, et tamen ei, de qua exsistit, sine ulla temporis intercessione coniuncta est.
Cum autem ad deum uenimus, hoc est genitus, quod iustus et iustitia, sapiens et sapientia, misericors et misericordia. absolute ex deo iusto atque sapiente secundum apostolum oriri intellegimus iustitiam atque sapientiam, et sicut numquam iustus sine iustitia, numquam sapiens sine sapientia fuit, ita filius ex patre, sed numquam (pater) potuit esse sine filio.
Absque dubio Ariani saluatorem nostrum negare non audent, sed dum minorem dicunt, deum adserere non possunt. deus enim naturaliter plenitudinis dignitate subsistit, et eorum inpietas unum se deum colere prima confessione testatur. sed quia iuniorem, per eum, qui putatur senior, duos facit et soliditatem unitatis intersecat. nam ipsum nomen minoris alterum, qui illo sit maior, ostendit. quis illo antiquior, qui de se ipse pronuntiat: ego sum A et , primus et nouissimus, qui a Iudaeis quis esset interrogatus ita respondit: principium quod et loquor uobis, qui ueridica per prophetam uoce confirmat: ante me non fuit deus et post me non erit?
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The word is brought forth from the voice, and yet, although it is born from the mouth, it is not proven to be posterior to the voice. Fire and heat have an undivided partnership: but although heat is understood without doubt to exist from fire, nevertheless fire is by no means known to be prior to its own heat. Behold a thing which seems to exist from another, and yet is joined to that from which it exists without any interval of time.
But when we come to God, "begotten" is the same as "just" and "justice," "wise" and "wisdom," "merciful" and "mercy." We understand that justice and wisdom arise absolutely from a just and wise God according to the Apostle, and just as a just man was never without justice, a wise man never without wisdom, so the Son is from the Father, but the Father could never be without the Son.
Without doubt the Arians do not dare to deny our Savior, but while they call Him lesser, they cannot affirm that He is God. For God naturally subsists with the dignity of fullness, and their impiety testifies in its first confession that it worships one God. But because it makes Him younger, through Him who is thought to be older, it makes two and cuts through the solidity of unity. For the very name "lesser" reveals another who is greater than that one. Who is older than He who pronounces of Himself: "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last," who, when asked by the Jews who He was, answered thus: "The beginning which I also speak to you," who confirms with a truthful voice through the prophet: "Before me there was no God, and after me there will be none"?
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si pater hoc dicit, inferiorem post se non coepisse confirmat, si filius, ante se penitus non fuisse pronuntiat. de hoc propheticus sermo euidenter insinuat: hic est deus noster, et non reputabitur alius ad eum, et post haec: inter homines uisus est et cum hominibus conuersatus est. secundum haec ergo inter genitum et ingenitum nec ordo est, quia unus est, nec tempus interest, quia primus est, nec postponendus est, quia solus est, nec minor dicendus est, quia plenus est. ergo dicitur perfectus simplicisque naturae, inaestimabilis et inpassibilis, etsi eum secundum carnem passum esse pro nobis ueraciter et salubriter confitemur.
Post haec sequenti loco quaeris a me, quo modo iuxta substantiam dei in epistula quadam scriptum sit: nihil sensit patientis sensu, sed sensit conpatientis adfectu.
Primo hoc, quod nec philosophos latuit, scire promptissimum, quia in homine diuersae adfectiones, id est, iustitia, misericordia, sanctitas, beneuolentia, pietas res accedentes sunt et ideo adfectus uocantur. deus uero his non passibiliter adficitur, quia ei inesse iugiter et naturaliter dinoscuntur. ergo quod in homine adfectus et gratia, in deo uirtus est et natura.
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If the Father says this, he affirms that the inferior did not begin after him; if the Son says it, he declares that it was not at all before him. The prophetic word clearly suggests this: "This is our God, and no other will be reckoned to him," and after this: "He was seen among men and dwelt with men." According to these things, therefore, between the begotten and the unbegotten there is neither order, because he is one, nor does time intervene, because he is first, nor is he to be postponed, because he is alone, nor is he to be called lesser, because he is full. Therefore he is said to be of perfect and simple nature, inestimable and impassible, even though we truly and salutarily confess that he suffered in the flesh for us.
After this, in the following place, you ask me how, according to the substance of God, it was written in a certain letter: "He felt nothing with the sense of the one suffering, but he felt with the affection of the one sympathizing."
First of all, this is very easy to know, which not even philosophers were unaware of: that in man, diverse affections—that is, justice, mercy, holiness, benevolence, piety—are adventitious things and are therefore called affects. But God is not passively affected by these, because they are known to be in him continually and naturally. Therefore, what in man is affect and grace, in God is virtue and nature.
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nam quod dictum est: nihil sensit patientis sensu, sed sensit conpatientis adfectu, cur quisquam illo sensu dicere non praesumat, quod etiam propheticum commemorat: domine, ne in ira tua arguas me neque in furore tuo corripias me, et: iurauit dominus, nec paenitebit eum, et iterum: iratus est dominus populo. suo et abominatus est hereditatem suam, et item diuerso adfectn Iacob dilexisse et Esau odio habuisse describitur. contristari in peccatis nostris et laetari dicitur in operibus suis et adfectibus subiacens de se ipse dicit: paenitet me fecisse hominem, et de summa caeli sede pronuntiat: Saule, Saule, quid me persequeris? iam et conpatientis ostendere adfectum uidetur, cum dicit: esuriui et dedistis mihi manducare, sitiui et dedistis mihi bibere, et reliqua huius modi, quae memoriae abundanter occurrunt.
Quo modo ergo, si quisquam sacerdos multiplici linguarum scientia praeditus et in medio diuersarum gentium constitutus Hebraeum Hebraeo, Graecum Graeco, Romanum Romano instructurus adloquio secundum singulorum intellectum uerba conformet et iuxta unius cuiusque sensum oris sui coaptet adloquium et dissonas unius cordis et [peccatoris] pectoris uoees in uarios dispenset auditus, ita et deus cum homine locuturus adsumere dignatur hominis linguam, formam etiam suscepturus humanam per intellectuum nostrorum sonos ordinationum nostrarum contestatur adfectus.
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For what was said: "He did not feel with the sense of one who suffers, but with the affection of one who suffers with," why should anyone not presume to say that which even the prophetic word recalls: "Lord, do not rebuke me in your anger nor chastise me in your fury," and "The Lord swore, and he will not repent of it," and again: "The Lord was angry with his people and abhorred his inheritance," and likewise Jacob is described as having loved and Esau as having been hated with different affection. He is said to be saddened by our sins and to rejoice in his works, and subject to affections, he himself says about himself: "I repent of having made man," and from the highest seat of heaven he declares: "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" He even seems to show the affection of one who suffers with when he says: "I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink," and other things of this sort, which abundantly occur to memory.
Therefore, just as if some priest, endowed with knowledge of many languages and placed among diverse peoples, were to instruct a Hebrew in Hebrew, a Greek in Greek, a Roman in Roman, shaping his words according to each one's understanding and adapting his speech to the sense of each individual, and distributing the dissonant voices of one heart and [sinner's] breast into various hearings, so also God, when about to speak with man, deigns to take up man's tongue, and, about to take up human form as well, attests to the affections of our arrangements through the sounds of our understandings.
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nam dum quinque humanorum sensuum officia describens ita dicit: oculi domini super iustos et aures eius ad preces eorum, et iterum: os domini locutum est, item: et odoratus est odorem suauitatis, et: manus mea fecit haec omnia. caelum mihi thronus est, terra autem scabellum pedum meorum, cordibus nostris efficientias insinuat rerum sub significatione membrorum, unde pro ineffabili eius circa humanum genus dignatione, quae seruos amicos ac filios nominare et conpellare non despicit, ut homo cum eodem uicissim humano ore et more conloquitur.
Ceterum dei ira iustitia est, dei furor seueritatis uigor est, dei iurasse definisse est, dei paenituisse sententia tamen saepe mutata, et cum se persequente aliquo laedi dicit, crimen laedentis ostendit. intercluditur nobis omnimodis orationis ministerium omnisque ratio, qua deus uel intellegitur uel praedicatur, si haec humani sermonis commercia subtrahuntur. cur ergo dici inter ista non possit: sed sensit conpatientis adfectu?
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For while describing the functions of the five human senses, he says: "The eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, and His ears are open to their prayers," and again: "The mouth of the Lord has spoken," and likewise: "And He smelled the odor of sweetness," and: "My hand has made all these things. The heaven is my throne, but the earth is the footstool of my feet," he suggests to our hearts the efficacies of things under the signification of members, so that on account of His ineffable condescension toward the human race, which does not disdain to name and address servants as friends and sons, man converses with Him in turn with human speech and manner.
Moreover, the anger of God is justice, the fury of God is the vigor of severity, that God has sworn is to have defined, that God has repented is a sentence often changed, and when He is said to be harmed by someone persecuting Him, it shows the crime of the one harming. The entire ministry of speech and every means by which God is either understood or proclaimed is cut off from us, if these exchanges of human discourse are removed. Why, therefore, cannot it be said among these things: "But He felt with the affection of one who suffers with"?
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Si ergo discutienti magistro simplex et aperta responsio satisfecit, transeamus ad tertiam quaestionem, qua ut respondeam praecipis, quae in rebus humanis corporea, quaeue incorporea sentienda sint. ad haec aliqua non pro sensus mei praesumptione depromam, sed pro sanctorum opinione seniorum, praesertim cum haec animum laedere non possint et ad fidem nutrire possint et usque ad id, quo patri filius aequalis adpareat, contra Arianas armare atque regere ualeant prauitates. ergo quando de tractatu altiori conlatio est, ad subtiliorem intellectum sensus. et animus praeparandus est. nonnulli eruditissimi patrum alia adserunt esse inuisibilia, alia uero incorporea. quidquid creatum est, materiam uideri et factori suo conprehensibile et corporeum esse definiunt. nam et animarum et angelorum naturam adserunt esse corpoream pro eo, quod initio circumscribantur et spatio. nam sicut in quodam S. Hieronymi tractatu legimus: globos, inquit, siderum corporatos esse spiritus arbitrantur, et item: si angeli, inquit, caelestia etiam corpora ad conparationem dei inmunda esse dicuntur, quid putas homo aestimandus est? sed inter haec ideo tu animam negas esse corpoream, quia iuxta aliquorum opinionem nec localis sit, nec qualitate aut quantitate subsistat, quod de sola dei maiestate credi debere manifestum est. legimus enim in quodam.
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If, therefore, a simple and open response has satisfied the questioning teacher, let us move on to the third question, which you command me to answer: what in human affairs is to be perceived as corporeal, and what as incorporeal. To these matters I will bring forth something not from the presumption of my own understanding, but from the opinion of the holy elders, especially since these things cannot harm the soul and can nourish the faith, and can arm and guide us up to the point where the Son appears equal to the Father against the perversities of the Arians. Therefore, when the discussion concerns a higher treatise, the senses and the mind must be prepared for a more subtle understanding. Some of the most learned fathers assert that some things are invisible, while others are incorporeal. They define that whatever is created is seen as matter, and is comprehensible to its maker and corporeal. For they assert that the nature of souls and angels is corporeal, because they are bounded by a beginning and by space. For as we read in a certain treatise of St. Jerome: "They consider," he says, "the globes of the stars to be embodied spirits," and again: "If angels," he says, "are said to be even celestial bodies unclean in comparison to God, what do you think man is to be considered?" But amidst these things, you deny that the soul is corporeal because, according to the opinion of some, it is neither local nor subsists by quality or quantity, which it is clear must be believed only about the majesty of God. For we read in a certain...
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receptissimo patrum tractatu: ingredi, inquit, et inplere omnia soli est possibile trinitati, quae sic uniuersae intellectualis naturae efficitur penetratrix, ut non solum circumplecti eam atque ambire, sed etiam inlabi ei et uelut incorporea corpori possit infundi. licet enim pronuntiemus \\ nonnullas spirituales esse naturas, ut sunt angeli, archangeli ceteraeque uirtutes, ipsa quoque anima nostra uel certe aer iste subtilis, tamen incorporeae nullatenus aestimandae sunt. habent enim secundum se corpus, quo subsistunt, licet multo et inconparabiliter tenuius, quam nostra sunt corpora secundum apostoli sententiam dicentis: et corpora caelestia et corpora terrestria. quibus pro manifesto conligitur nihil esse incorporeum, nisi solum deum, et idcirco ipsi tantummodo posse penetrabiles omnes spirituales atque intellectuales esse substantias. quae cum ita sint, obicis mihi ideo animam non esse corpoream, quia, ut dictum est, nec localis sit nec qualitate ant quantitate subsistat. quod cuius periculi sit ita credere in subsequentibus demonstrabitur: nunc uero in hoc tractatus nostri statu habita discussione pendebit, ut si nec localis sit nec quantitati subiaceat, esse eam haud dubie incorpoream concedamus, si uero eam demonstrauerimus quantitate determinari locoue concludi, consequenter eam etiam corpore contineri nec ipse iam dubites.
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In the most received treatise of the fathers: "To enter," it says, "and to fill all things is possible for the Trinity alone, which so pervades every intellectual nature that it not only encompasses and surrounds it, but also glides into it and, as it were, can be poured incorporeally into a body." For although we declare that some natures are spiritual, such as angels, archangels, and the other powers, and also our own soul or indeed this subtle air, yet they are by no means to be considered incorporeal. For they have, according to themselves, a body by which they subsist, though much and incomparably thinner than our bodies, according to the Apostle's statement saying: "both celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies." From this it is clearly gathered that nothing is incorporeal except God alone, and therefore only He is able to penetrate all spiritual and intellectual substances. Since this is so, you object to me that the soul is not corporeal because, as has been said, it is neither local nor subsists by quality or quantity. How dangerous it is to believe this will be shown in what follows; but now, in this state of our treatise, after the discussion has been held, it will remain in suspense: if it is neither local nor subject to quantity, let us grant without doubt that it is incorporeal; but if we demonstrate that it is determined by quantity or confined by place, then consequently it is also contained by a body, and you yourself will no longer doubt this.
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quo modo non localis est, quae inserta membris et inligata uisceribus solis motibus uaga condicione substantiae tenetur inclusa? quod si localem non esse animam ideo adserendum putes, quod per diuersa sensibus euagetur et cogitationibus differatur, primum intellegendum est, quod aliud sit animae status, aliud is qui de anima nascitur cogitationis adfectus. quam ob rem aut hoc potius aestimandum est, quod si quando sibi aliquid imaginatur, magis cum suis intra semet ipsam motibus occupetur, et si quid aliud est, quod adspicere uidetur, magis ei in recordationis speculo describatur. nam quando absentem carum suum cogitat, numquid iam uelut ipso conspecto desiderio satisfecit? aut cum uerbi gratia Petri aut Pauli speciem intra mentis arcana depingit, numquid statim intimas paradisi sedes, ubi eos esse nouimus, penetrauit P aut cum sibi in corde diuitis illius flammas ex lectione proposuit, numquid iam ad tormentorum eius loca ac uiuis inaccessibilia inferi profunda descendit? haec omnia procul dubio aut secum intra pectoris arcana per uarias similitudines fingit aut certe si extra animae sedem instabilis cogitatio lubrico motu agitata discurrit, . hoc ipsud localiter agit, et siue urbem. siue quamcumque regionem cogitet, ibi tantum sensu commorante defigitur, quo animi intentione raptatur. imaginari sibi aliqua potest, conplecti omnia simul non potest.
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In what way is it not local, which, inserted into limbs and bound up in viscera, is held enclosed by the sole motions of the substance’s wandering condition? But if you think that the soul is not local because it roams through diverse senses and is dispersed by thoughts, it must first be understood that the state of the soul is one thing, and the affection of thought that arises from the soul is another. For this reason, it should rather be judged that if it ever imagines something for itself, it is more occupied with its own motions within itself, and if there is anything else that it seems to behold, it is more depicted for it in the mirror of recollection. For when it thinks of an absent loved one, has it already satisfied its desire as if it had seen him? Or when it depicts the likeness of Peter or Paul within the secret places of the mind, has it immediately penetrated the innermost seats of paradise, where we know them to be? Or when it sets before itself from reading the flames of that rich man in its heart, has it already descended to the places of his torments and the inaccessible depths of hell? All these things it undoubtedly either fashions within the secret chambers of the breast through various likenesses, or, if unstable thought, driven by slippery motion, runs about outside the seat of the soul, it does this locally, and whether it thinks of a city or any region, it fixes itself there only with its lingering sense, where it is carried by the intention of the mind. It can imagine some things for itself, but it cannot embrace all things at once.
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cum ergo anima Alexandriam uel Hierosolymam cogitanit, si uere illic tota sui praesentia, ut arbitraris, interfuit, referat nobis situs loeoram, uultus hominum, motus actusque populorum. sed hoc ipsud quod nunc inter nos commercia sermonum mutua spiritus actione miscemus, loqui me uobiscum, sed apud conscientiam meam, sentio, ad uos uero me accessisse non sentio. nam si uere anima cum suis ferri sensibus creditur, et his quorum reminiscitur ipsa per se suis cogitationibus praesentatur. ecce per haec praesentis temporis momenta uos cogito et animo reminiscente uos uideo, sed omnimodis quid geratis et utrum quieti an lectioni uel orationi uacetis ignoro. sed hoc ideo euenit, quia ad uos cordis adfectu, non ipsa substantiae meae ueritate peruenio. neque enim in suis motibus quos nunc optimos, nunc pessimos esse sentimus, animae nostrae natura consistit. nam si per cogitationes suas constare credenda est, cur eis interdum euanescentibus atque pereuntibus ipsa in sui uigore. atque alacritate perdurat? quantae ergo in nobis frequentissimae cogitationes et curae etiam salubriter moriuntur et uitae magis libertati interioris operantur! si ipsis anima constaret, ' absque dubio ipsis pereuntibus superesse non posset.
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Therefore, when the soul has thought of Alexandria or Jerusalem, if it was truly present there in its entirety, as you suppose, let it report to us the layout of the places, the faces of the men, the movements and actions of the peoples. But this very thing which we now exchange between us in mutual conversation by the action of the spirit—I perceive that I speak with you, but within my own consciousness, whereas I do not perceive that I have come to you. For if the soul is believed to be carried along with its senses when it recalls them, and to present itself by its own thoughts to those whom it remembers, behold, in these moments of present time I think of you and see you with my recollecting mind, but I am wholly ignorant of what you are doing and whether you are engaged in rest, reading, or prayer. But this happens because I reach you by the affection of my heart, not by the truth of my own substance. For the nature of our soul does not consist in its motions, which we feel to be sometimes best, sometimes worst. For if it were believed to consist in its thoughts, why, when these sometimes vanish and perish, does it itself endure in its own vigor and alacrity? How many thoughts and cares, even salutary ones, die within us most frequently, and work all the more for the freedom of the inner life! If the soul consisted in them, without doubt it could not survive when they perish.
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unde hoc magis ipsa conscientiis nostris ratio loquitur, quod unaquaeque anima aut multiplicia cogitata rerum causis intra se concepta parturiat aut sensus suos uelut quaedam officia aut ministeria diuersis necessitatibus occupanda dispergat, ipsa uero in conclaui corporis sui semel de eo exitura requiescat. quam ob rem localem esse ipsam, ut denuo sufficiens proferamus exemplum: nonne anima Lazari manente uita intra corpus fuit, recedente autem uita de habitaculo corporis exulauit et rursum intra exanimum refusa corpus illo unde absentauerat euocata remeauit? tunc eam tamquam et hospitii habitatione depulsam et rursum intra hospitium, unde absentauerat, restitutam uides et localem non esse contendis? sed quid ego haec de corruptibili homine loquar, cum ille cuius caro non uidit corruptionem inmaculatam quidem animam possederit, sed localem, quam utique intra se habuit, quando adfixus est in patibulo, extra se procul dubio emisit, quando iacuit in sepulcro: quo modo non est localis, quam caro continet, uita coniungit, mors separat? quod si, ut dicis, localem necessitatem animarum natura non recipit, non desunt ergo et de regione paradisi illae, quae carcere clauduntur inferni? dic, quaeso, si locales non sunt, quo modo peccatores a coetibus consortiisque iustorum uastum illud chaos tristi interiectione discriminat, ut neque hinc illo possint accedere neque inde huc transmeare?
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Hence reason itself speaks more clearly to our own consciences: each individual soul either gives birth within itself to manifold thoughts conceived from the causes of things, or disperses its senses—like certain offices or ministries—to be occupied by diverse necessities, while the soul itself rests once within the chamber of its own body, about to depart from it only at death. For this reason, that it is itself local, let us offer a sufficient example once more: was not the soul of Lazarus, while life remained, within the body; but when life withdrew, did it not depart from the dwelling of the body, and, once poured back into the lifeless body, did it not return, summoned back from where it had been absent? Do you then see it both driven from the habitation of its lodging and restored again within the lodging from which it had been absent, and yet contend that it is not local? But why do I speak of these things concerning corruptible man, when He whose flesh did not see corruption possessed an immaculate soul, yet a local one, which He certainly held within Himself when He was fixed to the cross, and undoubtedly sent forth from Himself when He lay in the tomb: how is it not local, which the flesh contains, life joins, and death separates? But if, as you say, the nature of souls does not admit of local necessity, are there not, then, souls from the region of paradise that are shut up in the prison of hell? Tell me, I ask, if they are not local, how does that vast chaos, with its grim interposition, separate sinners from the gatherings and associations of the just, so that neither can they approach from here to there, nor cross over from there to here?
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iam illud manifestissimum est, ut quantitate circumscribantur, quae spatiis continentur. si agnouisti animam localem, concede corpopream. dic mihi anne ipsa gloriosi anima redemptoris nostri reliquit mundum, quando consurrexit ad caelum?
Ego autem ne angelos quidem locales esse dubitauerim, quos certum est nunc in caelestibus contineri, nunc per aeris uacua ferri, nunc ad terrena dimitti, quos sermo diuinus ascendentes et descendentes in patriarchae uisione describit, qui utique si locales non essent et ubique essent, adesse atque discedere ascensu descensuque non possent. ipse beatissimus Gabriel, qui se ante deum adstare testatur, cum caelorum dominum Mariae infundendum uisceribus nuntiaret cumque sub dominicae [praeceptione ordinationis] oculis genitricis adsisteret, sine dubio caelo deerat, maria non occupabat, uacua atque diffusa uasti aeris non inplebat, sed illum tantum modo locum in quo erat occupabat. quae cum ita sint, quidquid locum occupat, corpus est, et nescio quo modo locali lege non teneatur, qui de loco ad locum mittitur, et uelut corpus motu accessuque transfertur, mole descendit, mobilitate discurrit, uadit, redit, absentat, ascendit. uel ille, credo, localis est, qui ex eo in caelo non est, ex quo est eiectus e caelo, nec se solum localem esse prodidit, qui secum tertiam partem stellarum ex alto proturbatus abstraxit.
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Now that is most evident: that things which are contained in spaces are circumscribed by quantity. If you have acknowledged the soul to be local, concede that it is corporeal. Tell me, did not the soul of our glorious Redeemer Himself leave the world when He rose again to heaven?
For my part, I would not hesitate to affirm that not even angels are local, whom it is certain are sometimes contained in the heavens, sometimes borne through the empty spaces of the air, sometimes sent down to earthly regions—whom divine speech describes as ascending and descending in the vision of the patriarch. If they were not local and were everywhere, they could not, by ascending and descending, be present and depart. The most blessed Gabriel himself, who testifies that he stands before God, when he announced the Lord of the heavens to be poured into the womb of Mary, and when, under the Lord's command, he stood before the eyes of the mother, without doubt was absent from heaven, did not occupy the seas, did not fill the empty and diffuse vastness of the air, but occupied only that place in which he was. Since these things are so, whatever occupies a place is a body; and I do not see how one who is sent from place to place is not held by local law, and, like a body, is transferred by motion and approach, descends by mass, runs about by mobility, goes, returns, is absent, ascends. Or, I suppose, that one is local who, from the moment he was cast out of heaven, is not in heaven; and he did not only prove himself local, who, when thrust down from on high, dragged a third part of the stars with him.
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dic mihi si corpus non habet, in illa deiectione quid decidit? quid illi negas corporalem naturam, cuius negare non audes ruinam? et si, ut dicis, corpus non habet, non ardebit: ubi autem, nisi in corpore, sentiet ignem illum, qui paratus est diabolo et angelis eius? iam illud dici superfluum puto illum de aeris istius conuersatione quandam crassitudinem de elementorum concretione traxisse. dic mihi, si corpus non habuit, ubinam in aere concretio, ubi sese haec ipsa nescio quae colligere potuit crassitudo, si secum aliquid corporale de illa caelesti arce non detulit? alienum, ut uideo, corpus ad tormenta portabit. corpus itaque esse etiam ex tua adsertione recognosce. corpus est quod inficitur, quod maculatur, quod quaeumque ex accedenti adiectione uertitur. hic ergo dudum primogenitus angelorum, nunc princeps factus est tenebrarum et quasi corporeus pulcher ante, nunc degener, dudum caelesti splendore conspicuus, nunc taetro infernalis peccati horrore foedatus. corpus, inquam, est quod (locum) habet, actione depellitur, quantitate circumscribitur, qualitate mutatur, dolore conficitur. quae cum ita sese habeant, qui incorporeum dicunt animum, uide in quam profundum se crimen inmergant.
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Tell me, if it does not have a body, what fell in that casting down? What do you deny to it of a corporeal nature, whose ruin you do not dare to deny? And if, as you say, it does not have a body, it will not burn: but where, except in a body, will it feel that fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels? I think it is superfluous to say now that it drew some thickness from the mixture of elements from its association with this air. Tell me, if it did not have a body, where in the air was there a thickening, where could this very thickness, whatever it is, have gathered itself, if it did not bring with it something corporeal from that celestial citadel? It will, as I see, carry a foreign body to the torments. Therefore, recognize that it is a body even from your own assertion. It is a body which is infected, which is stained, which is changed by any addition from something approaching. So here the firstborn of the angels has long since become the prince of darkness, and, as if corporeal, beautiful before, now degenerate, once conspicuous with celestial splendor, now defiled with the foul horror of infernal sin. It is a body, I say, which has place, is driven by action, is circumscribed by quantity, is changed by quality, is consumed by pain. Since these things are so, see into what deep crime those who call the soul incorporeal plunge themselves.
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iam primum cum auctor uniuersitatis deus omnia in numero et pondere fecisse referatur, ergo anima a materia uniuersae creaturae excepta esse creditur, quae non est corporea nec localis est, si loco non continetur, ergo ubique diffunditur, omnia intrare, inplere et ubique praesens esse dicitur, ac si creatori suo creatura sociaretur et fragilitas auctori suo, non iam res dei, sed pars dei aestimanda iungitur. uide quo adsertores suos ducat alti prolapsus erroris. equidem nobis ea quae supra nos sunt, inuisibilia sunt: sed omnia illi sicut conprehensibilia, ita et corporea sunt, qui ex nihilo fecit omnia, quae sicut opere instituit, ita et materia incorporauit, et rebus omnibus, inter quas et anima censetur, sicut distribuit pondus, numerum atque mensuram), ita et posuit quantitatem. inter haec si forte, ut dictum est, adserendum aliquis putet, quod illa angelicae subtilitate naturae quaedam contagio aeris huius admixtione collecta flammis inueniatur obnoxia, ergo in aere solo (prout ait, si aereum est, quod ardebit), non in illo, sed extra illum poena desaeuiet. sed absque dubio non aliud est, quam substantia corporis, ubi dominari poterit uis doloris.
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First of all, since the creator of the universe, God, is reported to have made everything in number and weight, therefore the soul is believed to be excepted from the matter of the whole creation, which is not corporeal nor local; if it is not contained in place, therefore it is diffused everywhere, is said to enter everything, fill everything, and be present everywhere, as if the creature were joined to its creator and fragility to its author, so that it is to be considered not a thing of God, but a part of God. See where a deep fall into error leads its advocates. For us, indeed, those things which are above us are invisible; but to Him who made everything from nothing, all things are both comprehensible and corporeal; just as He established them by His work, so He incorporated them into matter, and to all things, among which the soul is counted, just as He distributed weight, number, and measure, so He also assigned quantity. Among these, if by chance, as has been said, someone should think it worth asserting that a certain contagion of this air, collected by admixture, is found liable to flames in that nature of angelic subtlety, therefore the punishment will rage in the air alone (as he says, if it is airy that will burn), not in that, but outside it. But without doubt it is nothing other than the substance of a body, where the force of pain will be able to hold sway.
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uide quo tendat inprudens et inperita persuasio, qui incorporeum cum loquitur, etiam inconprehensibilem confitetur, ac sic condito adscribit operi, quod soli conpetit conditori, ac rebus creatis communicat priuilegia maiestatis et indebitam facturae potentiam usque ad factoris extendit iniuriam. si bene requiramus ad quos rerum exitus animum referas, haec uel maxime diabolum credulitas ex illa beatae sedis statione deuoluit, et propter hoc angeli perdidit dignitatem, dum se dei praesumit habere naturam.
Vnus ergo deus incorporeus, quia et inconprehensibilis et ubique diffusus: ex nullius enim facturae corporeae materia materia)le sumpsit exordium, et ideo coaeternus filius patri, quia ex nullo opere conditus nullisque initiis circumscriptus super omnia, quae figulo suo conprehoneibilia atque corporea intra mundi corpus operatus est, incorporea maiestate diffunditur, ex ingenito genitus id est ex patre, sed semper cum patre his quae excitauit ex nihilo indiscreta sancti spiritus societate dominatur.
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See where the imprudent and unskilled persuasion is heading: when it speaks of the incorporeal, it also confesses it to be incomprehensible, and thus ascribes to the work of creation what belongs only to the creator, and communicates to created things the privileges of majesty and an undue power over creation, extending even to an injury against the maker. If we rightly inquire to what outcomes of things you refer the soul, this credulity especially cast the devil down from that station of the blessed seat, and because of this he lost the dignity of an angel, while he presumed to have the nature of God.
Therefore, God alone is incorporeal, because He is also incomprehensible and everywhere diffused: for He took the beginning of His material existence from no corporeal matter of any creation, and for this reason the Son is coeternal with the Father, because He was created from no work and is circumscribed by no beginnings, and is diffused with incorporeal majesty over all things, which, comprehensible and corporeal, He wrought within the body of the world, as their potter; born from the unbegotten, that is, from the Father, but always with the Father, He rules with the undivided society of the Holy Spirit over those things which He brought forth from nothing.
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CLAVDIANI MAMERTI DE STATV ANIMAE LIBRI TRES.
PRAEFATIO.
PRAEFECTO EIO PATRICIO DOCTISSIMO ET OPTIMO VIRO SOLLIO SIDONIO CLAVDIANVS.
Editionem libellorum mihi quos de animae statu condidi reticendi cautus et loquendi pensus arbiter imperasti. fas fuit memet doctissimi atque amantissimi uel peritiae cedere uel credere amicitiae. sed ut tute egregie conpertum tenes, multi hoc idem mihi et idem ipsi tecum magni admodum uiri negotium dedere, quod egomet haud temere suscepissem, nisi id spernere periculosius quam agere laboriosius iudicassem, quamquam pro uirili parte meum quoque fuerit uel non admonitum, prout posse subest, adserere ueritatem. scripsi igitur pauca haec ueluti quaedam rationum semina, quae studiosus quisque si non otiose capessat, ut ego arbitror, multa exinde deriuare poterit, quae etsi angustis emanantia uenulis in magnos tamen amnes longiore procursu exuberabunt. ego uero et fraudatus temporis et occupatus animi satis habui, quantum ad negotii praeeminentiam spectat, quam succinctim atque uti digito uel denotare uitanda uel ostendere sequenda. sane opusculum illud sine auctore proditum et usquequaque proquiritatum, toto agmine sui in acie eductum et conserta nobis manu congressum uiceritne cesseritne, tu, potissime disertorum, ferto sententiam.
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Preface.
To the most learned and excellent man, the patrician Ecdicius, from Sidonius Apollinaris, Claudianus Mamertus.
You, a cautious arbiter of silence and a deliberate judge of speech, commanded me to publish the little books I composed on the state of the soul. It was right for me to yield either to the expertise of a most learned man or to trust in the affection of a most loving friend. But, as you yourself eminently know, many very great men gave me this same task, and they themselves, along with you, entrusted me with this business, which I would not have rashly undertaken unless I had judged it more dangerous to spurn than more laborious to undertake, although, for my part, it was also my duty, even unadmonished, to assert the truth as far as my ability allows. Therefore, I have written these few things, like certain seeds of reasoning, from which, if any studious person takes them up not idly, as I think, he will be able to derive many things, which, though flowing from narrow channels, will yet swell into great rivers with a longer course. But I, cheated of time and occupied in mind, have considered it sufficient, given the preeminence of the task, to indicate succinctly, as if with a finger, what to avoid or what to follow. As for that little work published without an author and sought after everywhere, brought forth in battle line with its whole array and joined in combat with us hand to hand—whether it has conquered or yielded, do you, most excellent of the eloquent, pronounce judgment.
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Sed ut quisque lecturus e praefato percipiat stili nostri seriem: primus liber in sui primordio breuiter adstruit inpassibilem diuinitatem nulli prorsus adfectui subiacere. post de animae statu uarium cum aduersario luctamen alternat. abhinc itidem ad erudiendum in ea quae sunt obscuriora lectorem quippiam ex geometricis et arithmeticis atque etiam ex dialecticis et nonnullis, prout interfuit usui, philosophomenon regulis modeste ac moderate et quam potuit parciter praelibauit habita identidem cum aduersa parte congressione, sicque adiectis nostris aliquot sine alienorum interpolamento finem liber accepit.
secundus post principium de mensura, numero et pondere non otiose et, uti autumo non infructuose dissertat, ubi si cognitor adsit intentus, sub adminiculo pietatis per differentium creaturarum gradus ad usque nonnullam creatricis omnium trinitatis si non iam felicitatem contemplandae, certe robustius credendae perueniet firmitatem. posthinc totus usque ad metam sui liber testibus utitur.
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But so that each reader may grasp from the preface the sequence of our style: the first book, at its very beginning, briefly establishes that the impassible divinity is subject to no affection whatsoever. Afterwards, it alternates a varied struggle with the adversary concerning the state of the soul. From this point, likewise, for the instruction of the reader in those matters which are more obscure, it has modestly and moderately, and as sparingly as it could, prefaced something from geometrical, arithmetical, and even dialectical rules, and from certain philosophical principles, insofar as it was useful for the purpose, engaging in debate with the opposing side from time to time; and thus, with some additions of our own, without any interpolation of others' material, the book reached its end.
The second book, after its beginning, discusses measure, number, and weight not idly and, as I believe, not without profit; where, if a discerning reader is present, with the help of piety, through the grades of different creatures, he will arrive at a certain firmness—if not yet the happiness of contemplating the creative Trinity of all things, then certainly a more robust belief in it. After this, the entire book, up to its end, employs witnesses.
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Tertius aliquantulum in sui primordio argumentatur, post saucios ex aduersa acie palantes insequitur, demum uero nec aspernatur pacem, nec conflictum metuit aduersantis ignoti.
En legisti, eruditissime uirorum, quod lectitabis: tu modo faxis uti memineris non absque cura tui prodi oportere, quod publicari iubes. neque ego de negotii pondere, sed de actionis leuitate dubitauerim. proinde consilium tuum adserito et defensitato: quoniam, si in his secus aliquid, ego conscriptionis periclitabor, sed tu editionis. uale et uige bonis uiribus, ueteris reparator eloquentiae.
CLAVDIANI MAMERTI DE STATV ANIMAE LIBER PRIMVS.
I. DE OPINIONIBVS INPERITORVM ET PERVICACIIS IN DEFENDENDA SVPERBIA.
Magnum in genere humano, Solli Sidoni, frater amantissime, multorum uitium est adrogans inperitia et peruicax in denfen-' dendis perperam praesumptis opinionibus pertinacia. nam plerique mortalium aut per sensus corporis corporearum rerum haustis imaginibus ueluti quibusdam rerum umbris obtutu mentis inluduntur, aut tenellis adhuc infantiae quondam suae persuasionibus in senectute puerascunt. si qua illis dicendi copia est, neglectis rerum causis rationis animam spernunt et uerborum corpora diligunt, cumque duplici ad ueritatem ueniatur uia, ut aut praeiudicatae auctoritati creduli-.
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The third book argues a little at its very beginning, then pursues the wounded stragglers from the opposing battle line, and finally neither spurns peace nor fears a conflict with an unknown adversary.
You have read, most learned of men, what you will read again: only see to it that you remember that what you order to be published ought not to be brought forth without care for yourself. Nor have I doubted the weight of the matter, but the lightness of the action. Therefore, assert and defend your counsel: since, if anything in these matters is otherwise, I shall be in danger for the writing, but you for the publication. Farewell, and thrive with good strength, restorer of ancient eloquence.
CLAUDIANUS MAMERTUS, ON THE STATE OF THE SOUL, BOOK ONE.
I. ON THE OPINIONS OF THE INEXPERIENCED AND THE STUBBORN IN DEFENDING PRIDE.
There is a great vice in the human race, Sollius Sidonius, most beloved brother: arrogant inexperience and stubborn pertinacity in defending wrongly presumed opinions. For most mortals are either deceived by images drawn through the senses of the body from corporeal things, as if by certain shadows of things, in the gaze of the mind, or they grow childish in old age with the tender persuasions of their former infancy. If they have any facility in speaking, they neglect the causes of things, spurn the soul of reason, and love the bodies of words; and since there is a twofold path to truth, so that either by trusting in prejudiced authority...
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tate subdamur aut ad scientiam ratiocinatione tendamus, nihil quod uel auctoritas iubeat uel ratio suadeat potissimum dicentes, spreta paucitate doctorum inludunt inperitos, quae . maxima turba est. sed et ipsi ab eisdem quos fallunt, reciproca inlusione falluntur. laudantur namque falsoque laudantur et credunt, quo mentis sanitas maxime periclitatur. accedit ad hoc etiam acescentis semper liuoris intentio, inuidentis animi crimen et poena. nam si quid ab his, quos iniquo lacessunt odio, ad utilitatem publicam ueri prodatur, diuersum protinus adstruunt, etsi idem sentiant, ac sic inexhausto firmatoque odio cum his, quos sibi odisse institutum est, nequaquam metuunt ueritatis fecisse iacturam. oderunt igitur proximum, oderunt et deum. atque in his duobus praeceptorum omnium totiusque legis spreta plenitudine non mirandum est, si uel de deo uel de homine probe non sentiant, qui utrumque a se odio mediante longinquant. sed istoc eorundem quamquam plectibili uitio moueor exilius, quia etsi maliuolentiae in alios tela moliuntur, ipsi magis propriis transfixi ictibus uulnera quae inferre conantur excipiunt: namque odiorum stimulis eorundem prius puniuntur auctores. illud multo maximum longeque periculosius crimen est, quod catholicae sanitati opiniones inimicas stulte concipiunt, uane proferunt, superbe adstruunt, cum temeritate.
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let ourselves be subjected to authority or strive toward knowledge through reasoning, saying nothing that either authority commands or reason persuades, they mock the unlearned, having spurned the small number of the learned, which is the greatest crowd. But they themselves are also deceived by those whom they deceive, by a reciprocal mockery. For they are praised and falsely praised, and they believe it, whereby the health of the mind is most endangered. Added to this is also the ever-growing intention of envy, the crime and punishment of a jealous mind. For if anything is brought forth by those whom they assail with unjust hatred for the public benefit, they immediately construct the opposite, even if they think the same, and thus, with an inexhaustible and confirmed hatred toward those whom it is their practice to hate, they do not at all fear having made a loss of truth. Therefore they hate their neighbor, and they hate God. And with the fullness of all precepts and the whole law spurned in these two, it is not surprising if they do not think rightly either about God or about man, since they distance both from themselves through the mediation of hatred. But I am moved rather slightly by this same fault of theirs, though it is blameworthy, because even if they aim the weapons of malice at others, they themselves, transfixed by their own blows, receive the wounds they try to inflict: for the authors of the same hatreds are punished first by the goads of those hatreds. That is a much greater and far more dangerous crime, that they foolishly conceive, vainly put forth, and proudly maintain opinions hostile to Catholic soundness, with rashness.
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scribunt, cum intentione defendunt, et quoniam humanitus per inprudentiam lapsi sunt, eligunt audaciae culpam suae peruicaci obstinatione defendere, ne uideantur potuisse peccare. ita enim palam sententias suas adstruunt, ut clam nihilo minus mussitantes blandimentis lenocinantibus ignaros rerum sedulo precentur, ut suae potissimum sententiae adquiescant, sibimet adsentiantur: illud ueri plenum, illud esse salutiferum, quod ipsi doceant, etiam deierando confirmant. si auctoritatom quaeras, subiciunt istius modi causarum secreta adiri nequaquam posse, nisi subtilissima rerum indagatrice ratione. si eandem in articulo reposcas, adiciunt auctoritati potius oportere concedi, neque ului praefatus sum propter argumentorum latentes quosdam scopulos pelagus disputationis intrare. ita auctoritate rationem, ut auctoritatem obiectu rationis eludunt et utroque horum ad id utuntur, ut neutro utantur. at si eosdem paulo strictius artum disputationis includat, aiunt quosdam esse sanctorum, quibus huiusce modi sit facillimum soluere quaestiones, se ab aliena magis auctoritate pendere, illud se maxime, quod alius sanxerit, esse secuturos. haec quis ferat ulloque ferri pacto posse iudicet, hominum quempiam et infitiari scientiam et uindicare doctrinam, cogitata sua, si discussor absit, adstruere, si adsit, operire? at, inquis, quorsum sermo progreditur? ego uero longiuscule.
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They write, they defend with intent, and because they have fallen through imprudence in a human way, they choose to defend the fault of their own audacity with stubborn obstinacy, lest they seem to have been able to err. For they openly construct their opinions, yet no less do they murmur secretly, with coaxing blandishments earnestly entreating the ignorant of matters to acquiesce especially in their opinion, to assent to themselves: that it is full of truth, that it is salutary, what they themselves teach, even confirming it by swearing falsely. If you seek authority, they interpose that the secrets of such causes can by no means be approached except by the most subtle reason, the investigator of things. If you demand the same at a critical point, they add that one ought rather to concede to authority, and that I have not previously said that I would enter the sea of disputation because of certain hidden rocks of arguments. Thus they evade reason by authority, and authority by the objection of reason, and they use both of these in such a way that they use neither. But if a somewhat tighter circle of disputation encloses them, they say that there are certain saints for whom it is very easy to solve questions of this kind, that they themselves depend more on another's authority, that they will follow above all what another has sanctioned. Who could bear this, and judge it possible to be borne in any way, that any man both denies knowledge and claims doctrine, builds up his own thoughts if a scrutinizer is absent, and covers them up if one is present? But, you say, whither does the discourse proceed? I, however, rather far.
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quam uolui praefatus sum, dum praesentium piget taedetque, nuper etenim offendi in quosdam, qui chartulam quandam oppido studiose lectitabant, et quia mortalium generi mos est, noui operis agnitione pellecti ad id percipiendum sedulo animo intenderant: hoc idem mihi acsi cognitu necessarium ultro ingerentibus inspicere plane non abnui.
II. VBI LIBRVM SINE AVCTORE INCVRRISSE SE MEMINIT.
Prima opusculi facies de genito ingenitoque deo sublimissimae quaestionis uix foribus oberrans non perincatholicam praeferebat etsi longe inpari disputatione sententiam: ita penes me ratiocinandi lenitatem grauis causa pensauit. ubi legendi progressu reliquum lectionis acoessi, animaduerti quibusdam circumlocutionibus id inpensius molientem opelli ipsius auctorem, ut diuinitas passibilis crederetur. percontor de nomine: nec responso nec scripto proditur. coepi, fateor. talis equidem paginae stilum oppido ferre suspectum, et qu in eis solemus locis, quae uel humoris adsidui subterluuione cedentia uel leui prono lubrica uel cauo pendula uel sudibus aspera sunt, suspenso uestigio iter incognitum potius tentare quam currere, donec tertiae, ut illic est, partem quaestionis, ingredior. hinc iam non exploranda, sed explodenda sententia nequaquam pensi sermonis adparuit satis sedulo efficere cupiens, si quo pacto queat, ut anima corpus esse uideatur.
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I have prefaced what I wished to say, since it irks and wearies those present; for recently I came upon certain persons who were very eagerly reading a certain little pamphlet, and because it is the custom of the human race, drawn by the recognition of a new work, they had intently directed their mind to grasping it: I did not at all refuse to examine this same thing, as they thrust it upon me of their own accord as if necessary for knowledge.
II. WHERE HE REMEMBERS HAVING COME UPON A BOOK WITHOUT AN AUTHOR.
The first face of the little work, barely hovering at the doors of a most sublime question concerning the begotten and unbegotten God, presented a not entirely uncatholic opinion, albeit with a far from equal treatment: thus with me the gravity of the case weighed against the mildness of reasoning. When, as the reading progressed, I approached the remainder of the reading, I noticed that the author of that little work was laboring with certain circumlocutions to have it believed that divinity is passible. I ask about the name: it is revealed neither by answer nor by writing. I began, I confess, to hold the style of such a page as highly suspect, and just as in those places which, either yielding from the constant washing of moisture, or slippery with a slight incline, or hanging from a hollow, or rough with stakes, we are accustomed to try an unknown path with a cautious step rather than to run, so I enter the third part of the question, as it is there. From this point, the opinion, no longer to be explored but to be exploded, appeared to be striving with quite diligent effort, by no means of measured speech, to see if by some means it could make the soul seem to be a body.
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nulla igitur argumentandi uirtute, nulla iubente lege, nulla persuadente ratione in hoc nequiquam uidelicet negotio tertius sermo finitur.
Ac mihi primum quaerere cordi est, quidnam rationis exstiterit, ut tantas initurus causas deque tam sublimibus locuturus sciri uitauerit. si bene conscius disputas, cur nomen occultas? si agnosci metuis, cur opus prodis, ne dicam, cur ista conscribis? an maiorum super hoc forsitan exempla sectaris? sed uideo prophetas, euangelistas, apostolos, post etiam authenticorum plurimos tractatores sua propriis uoluminibus nomina praenotasse, alios etiam operum suorum propriis uocabulis inchoasse principia, ut est illud: Petrus apostolus Christi, et Paulus, nec non alii atque alii fundatores ecclesiae atque eruditores: uidelicet praecauenda fore nouerant apocryphorum uana uel noxia. sed ne sic quidem fallacium temerariorum uitari figmenta potuerunt. hinc est quod pleraque Pauli multorumque sanctorum uocabulis praenotata sanitas catholicae nostrae non recipit, quia non lenocinio nominis operis meritum pensat, sed auctorem sibi stili ueritate occultatur. enimuero illud, quod ista pagina propalatur eiusdemque auctor occultatur, euidens facit indicium eandem scilicet, a quo sit conposita, fuisse damnatam. nemo enim studet occultari, nisi qui formidat agnosci.
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Therefore, with no power of argumentation, with no law commanding, with no reason persuading, this third discourse is ended in this, as it were, futile business.
And it is first in my heart to inquire what reason there was that, about to undertake such great causes and to speak of such sublime matters, he avoided being known. If you are well aware of what you are arguing, why do you conceal your name? If you fear being recognized, why do you publish the work—not to say, why do you write these things? Or do you perhaps follow the example of our ancestors in this matter? But I see that the prophets, evangelists, apostles, and afterwards very many of the authentic commentators prefixed their own names to their own volumes, and others even began the beginnings of their works with their own names, as in that: "Peter, apostle of Christ, and Paul," and also others and still others, founders and teachers of the church: evidently they knew that the vain or harmful fictions of the apocryphal works were to be guarded against. But not even thus could the fabrications of rash men be avoided. Hence it is that many works prefixed with the names of Paul and of many saints our catholic soundness does not receive, because it does not weigh the merit of a work by the adornment of a name, but the author is concealed from it by the truth of the style. Indeed, that this page is published and its author concealed gives clear evidence that the one by whom it was composed was condemned. For no one strives to be hidden unless he fears being recognized.
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ego tamen satis mirari nequeo, cur in eodem uitandae noxae non fuerit studium, in quo subprimendi nominis potuit esse indicium.
III. QVOD DIVINITAS INPASSIBILIS NVLLI PRORSVS ADPECTVI SVBIACEAT.
Sed ad propositum reuertentes ipsa praefati operis uerba uideamus: ad illum uidelicet cui talia destinat, quem perinde atque se celatum studuit, sicait: quaeris a me quo modo iuxta substantiam dei in epistula quadam dictum sit, et hic, nec quae, nec cuius, nec ad quem, nec de quo epistula foret indicatum uoluit. continuatque de deo: nil sensit patientis sensu, sed sensit conpatientis adfectu. subiungit istud nec philosophos ignorasse: quia, inquit, in homine diuersae adfectiones, id est, iustitia, misericordia, sanctitas res accidentes sunt et ideo adfectus uocantur. deus uero his non passibiliter adficitur.s o non passibiliter!s o adficitur! quo adficitur, si non patitur? cur tam celer est memoria tua ad obliuionem eorum etiam ipse quae protuleris P iustitiam et misericordiam, quia in homine accidentiae sint, adfectus esse dixisti. igitur si in homine, quia accidentiae sunt, adfectus sunt, in deo quia accidentiae non sunt, adfectus non -sunt. non ergo sensit conpatientis adfectu, in quo quia accidentia non fuit, adfectus esse non potuit. sedadicis: ergo quod in homine adfectus et gratia, in deo uirtus est et natura. at quae in deo uirtus est, cum data fuerit homini, non est uirtus?
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I, however, cannot sufficiently wonder why, in the same matter, there was not a zeal for avoiding harm, where there could have been an indication of suppressing a name.
III. THAT THE DIVINITY, BEING IMPASSIBLE, IS SUBJECT TO NO AFFECT WHATSOEVER.
But, returning to the subject, let us examine the very words of the aforementioned work: to that person, namely, to whom he directs such things, whom he took pains to conceal just as himself, he says: you ask of me how, according to the substance of God, it was said in a certain letter, and here he wished it to be indicated neither which letter, nor whose, nor to whom, nor concerning what it was. And he continues concerning God: he felt not with the sense of one suffering, but with the affect of one suffering-with. He adds that this was not unknown to the philosophers: because, he says, in man the diverse affections, that is, justice, mercy, holiness, are accidental things and are therefore called affects. But God is not affected by these in a passible manner. O "not in a passible manner"! O "is affected"! By what is he affected, if he does not suffer? Why is your memory so swift to forget even those things which you yourself have put forward? You said that justice and mercy, because they are accidents in man, are affects. Therefore, if in man, because they are accidents, they are affects, in God, because they are not accidents, they are not affects. Therefore, he did not feel with the affect of one suffering-with, in whom, because there was no accident, an affect could not exist. But you say: therefore, what in man is affect and grace, in God is virtue and nature. But when what is virtue in God has been given to man, is it not virtue?
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deus enim procul dubio uirtus est, qui si inmutabilis est, etiam cum se homini dederit, uirtus in homine est. ergo quod in deo uirtus est, et in homine uirtus est hoc tantum differens, quod illic substantialiter, hic accessibiliter. unde dominus ad apostolos: sedete, inquit, in ciuitate, quoad usque induamini uirtute ex alto, et propheta: diligam te, domine, uirtus mea. tu uero deum in se uirtutem esse et in homine dicis non esse. sed talis sententiae causa luce liquidior est: sequitur scilicet, ut quem dicis adfici, adstruas commutari.
Ac mihi primum proprietas huius nominis maxime discutienda est. adfectus nempe ab eo dicitur quod aliquid adficiat, quidquid autem adficitur, patitur. pati uero non est nisi passibilis creataeque substantiae, quae quoniam a summa. essentia, quae deus est, ut exsisteret, uocata de nihilo est inter illud, de quo facta, et illud, a quo facta est, media: ita substantiam adfici potest at proficiat, sicut inferioribus ut deficiat. de anima quippe loquor humana. igitur nec nihilum adfici aliquo pacto potest, quia substantiam non habet, nec deus, quia detrimenta non sentit augmentaue non recipit. adficiuntur autem media, sicut supra dictum est, uel profectu uel defectu.
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For God is without doubt power, and if He is immutable, even when He has given Himself to a human, He is power in the human. Therefore, what is power in God is also power in the human, differing only in that there it is substantial, here it is accessible. Hence the Lord to the apostles: "Sit," He says, "in the city, until you are clothed with power from on high," and the prophet: "I will love You, Lord, my power." But you say that God is power in Himself and is not power in the human. Yet the cause of such an opinion is clearer than light: it follows, of course, that you assert that what you say is affected is changed.
And first, the property of this name must be especially examined. "Affect" is so called from that which affects something; whatever is affected, suffers. To suffer, however, belongs only to a passible and created substance, which, since it was called into existence from nothing by the supreme essence, which is God, is intermediate between that from which it was made and that by which it was made: thus the substance can be affected either so as to advance, as in lower things, or so as to decline. I speak, of course, of the human soul. Therefore, neither can nothing be affected in any way, because it has no substance, nor can God, because He does not experience losses or receive increases. But intermediate things are affected, as said above, either by advance or by decline.
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enim uero quidquid adficitur patitur, et quidquid patitur non esse deum nemo sanorum infitias ierit, quia utrumque mutuo reciprocat, ut nec mutabile nisi passibile, nec passibile possit esse nisi mutabile. quod autem philosophorum testimonio misericordiam atque iustitiam et istius modi bona adfectiones passibilis dicit esse creaturae easdemque in deo essentialiter, non accessibiliter, haud intendit animo sibi semet aduersa proferre, quia adfectio accessio est non autem aliquid deo accidit: igitur adfectioni non subiacet. nam quidquid adficitur, contrariis congruentibusque pariter obnoxium ambifariae subditur passioni. quocirca si summa diuinitas sensit conpatientis adfectu, etiam malae passionis subiacet stimulo. sensit dicis: utique sentire accidens eius est, qui ante non sensit. aeternitati autem, quia passionem Christi sempiterne sciuit, ut pote quam ipsa disposuit, passionis tempore noui nihil, quod nosset, ne dicam quod sentiret, accessit.
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For indeed, whatever is affected suffers, and whatever suffers, no sane person will deny is not God, because the two are mutually reciprocal, so that nothing can be mutable unless it is passible, nor can anything be passible unless it is mutable. But when, on the testimony of the philosophers, it says that mercy and justice and goods of this kind are passible affections of the creature, and that the same are in God essentially, not accessorily, it does not intend to put forward things contrary to itself in its own mind, because affection is an accession, but nothing accedes to God: therefore He is not subject to affection. For whatever is affected is equally subject to contrary and congruent passions alike, being exposed to passion in both ways. Therefore, if the supreme divinity felt the affection of a fellow-sufferer, it is also subject to the goad of evil passion. You say it felt: certainly, feeling is an accident of that which did not feel before. But to eternity, because it knew the passion of Christ sempiternally, inasmuch as it had itself ordained it, nothing new—which it might know, let alone which it might feel—acceded at the time of the passion.
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Sed quid nunc ego de adfectu disseram eundemque inpassibilem fore disputando conuincam, cum is ipse cui entradieimus, haud dubie fassus sit crucifixo homini deum fuisse conpassum ? quidnam, quaeso, istud est: non sensit patientis sensu, sed sensit conpatientis adfectu ? quid est sensit, quidue non sensit? aut quo modo passus est, si non sensit? numquid si quispiam dicat: ambulat ille, et ille coambulat, aut: loquitur ille, et ille conloquitur, nonne et conloquentem loqui et coambulantem ambulare significat? aut si quis aiat: mortuus ille est, et ille commortuus, nonne utrumque mortuum fuisse confirmat? nam qui commoritur, utique moritur. ergo et qui conpatitur, utique patitur. passa est igitur, si conpassa diuinitas, ergo fortassis et mortua, aut si istud etiam cogitatu nefas est: non ergo passus est deus, igitur nec adfectus. ubi est nunc conpatientis adfectus?
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But why am I now discussing affection and trying to prove by argument that the same is impassible, when the very one with whom we are disputing has undoubtedly admitted that God was compassionate with a crucified man? What, I ask, is this: he did not feel with the feeling of the one suffering, but he felt with the affection of the one suffering with him? What is "felt," and what "did not feel"? Or how did he suffer, if he did not feel? If someone were to say: that one walks, and that one walks with him, or: that one speaks, and that one speaks with him, does this not signify that the one speaking with him speaks, and the one walking with him walks? Or if someone says: that one died, and that one died with him, does this not confirm that both died? For he who dies with someone certainly dies. Therefore, he who suffers with someone certainly suffers. Therefore, if the divinity suffered with him, it suffered; therefore perhaps it also died, or if even thinking this is impious: therefore God did not suffer, therefore he was not affected. Where now is the affection of the one suffering with him?
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Post subicit, quid prophetico spiritu ueterum quique sanctorum proterrendis coercendisque carnaliter humanitusque sapientibus tropice prophetauerint, inquiens scriptum: domine, ne in ira tua arguas me, et: iurauit dominus, nec eum paenitebit. abhinc superius etiam per philosophos accidentias deo non obicit et hic per prophetas etiam uitiorum necessitates inponit, quia res, quae figuraliter accipiendae sunt, nisi sollerter intro inspiciantur, non ad uiuificantem spiritum peruenitur, sed in occidente littera remanetur. secilicet scilicet, ut incontaminabilem praecelsae diuinitatis essentiam passibilem fore credamus, si uaticinia prophetarum allegoricis animata secretis in litterae tantum corpore cogitemus. quia cum propheticis oraculis uel irasci uel paenitere memoratur, effectus harum uidelicet passionum considerandi sunt, non adfectus. porro qui neotericus scriptor iuxta propheticae locutionis exemplum meditatiunculas suas autumat debere pensari, non tractatorem profitetur se iste, sed uatem, cum uirginis partus ora uatum obserauerit, ut uaticinia reseraret. secus igitur est ac ratio postulat, mystico prophetarum stilo texere periodos oratorias, quo fit ut ille qui aliena expositurum se spondet, non possit exponi. igitur aut uatum uerbis non utere aut uaticinare. nequaquam profecto conducit uel praesenti uaticinium tempori uel prophetica locutio tractatori.
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He then adds what certain of the ancient and holy men, with prophetic spirit, prophesied figuratively for the purpose of frightening and restraining those who think carnally and humanly, saying that it is written: "Lord, do not rebuke me in your anger," and "The Lord swore, and he will not repent." Previously, through the philosophers, he did not attribute accidents to God, and here, through the prophets, he even imposes the necessities of vices, because matters which are to be taken figuratively, unless they are skillfully examined inwardly, do not reach the life-giving spirit but remain in the dead letter. That is to say, so that we might believe the impassible essence of the sublime divinity to be passible, if we consider the prophecies of the prophets, animated by allegorical secrets, only in the body of the letter. For when it is recorded in prophetic oracles that God either becomes angry or repents, the effects of these passions, not the affections, are to be considered. Moreover, this modern writer who claims that his own meditations ought to be weighed according to the example of prophetic speech does not profess himself to be a commentator, but a prophet, since the birth of the virgin closed the mouths of the prophets, in order to unlock prophecies. Therefore, it is otherwise than reason demands to weave oratorical periods with the mystical style of the prophets, with the result that he who promises to expound the works of others cannot himself be expounded. Therefore, either do not use the words of the prophets, or prophesy. Certainly, neither prophecy for the present time nor prophetic speech for a commentator is at all suitable.
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quocirca quidquid in defensionem tui ex prophetico sermone mutuatus es, aduersatur tibi potius quam opitulatur, quia uel quaesita defensio fatetur inbecillitatem uel incongruens patrocinium non purgat errorem.
Intemerabilis ergo diuinitas haudquaquam recte adfici dicitur, quia effectus est ab opifice, adfectus in opere. quando enim deus quempiam temporaliter punit, aeterno consilio ille utique patitur qui punitur. pateretur aliquid et deus, si uel temporaliter cuiuspiam peccata cognosceret uel eundem ad exercendam iustitiam iracundia commoueret. omne etenim temporaneum mobile atque mutabile inmutabilis et stans sempiternitas includit adficiens salubriter aliqua, iudicialiter aliqua adfici sinens, ipsa ab omni adfectu uel motu temporis et loci satis aliena, praedita illo tantum motu qui stabilis dicitur, ex qua et per quam et in qua est omne quod solo tempore et ab ipsa tantum mouetur, et omne quod et per tempus et locum ab illa mouetur neque solo tantum tempore. sed istinc alias. nunc autem missa facientes, quae talia profecto sunt merito uel uiribus, ut eadem inprobari sit iustum, inpugnari non necessarium, ad testimonia illa ueniamus, quae ex apostolo in patrocinium sui mutuatus est.
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Therefore, whatever you have borrowed from prophetic speech in defense of yourself opposes you rather than helps you, because either the sought-for defense confesses weakness, or the unsuitable patronage does not clear the error.
Thus the inviolable divinity is by no means rightly said to be affected, because effect is from the maker, affection is in the work. For when God temporally punishes someone, it is by eternal counsel that the one who is punished suffers. God would also suffer something, if he either temporally recognized anyone's sins or if anger moved him to exercise justice against that same person. For every temporal thing, mobile and changeable, is enclosed by immutable and standing eternity, which healthfully affects some things, and judicially allows some things to be affected, itself being quite alien from every affection or motion of time and place, endowed only with that motion which is called stable, from which and through which and in which is everything that is moved by time alone and by it alone, and everything that is moved by both time and place by it, and not by time alone. But of this elsewhere. Now, however, setting aside those things which are certainly such in merit or strength that to disapprove of them is just, to attack them unnecessary, let us come to those testimonies which he borrowed from the apostle in support of himself.
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ait enim, cur dici non possit: sensit conpatientis adfectu, quando apostolus dicendum putauit: numquam dominum gloriae crucifixissent, cum, sicut lux nullam sentire possit plagam uulneris, ita et auctor lucis nullam poenam senserit passionis. potest ergo dici: sed sensit conpatientis adfectu. potest quidem, quia omnia licent, sed non debet, quia non omnia aedificant.
Risum tamen in isto conparationum ac prolocutionum tuarum genere tenere uix possum. paulo prius adstruxeras deum desinere esse uirtutem idcircoque mutari, nunc itidem sententia flaccente declamas quod sicut lux nullam sentire possit plagam uulneris, ita et auctor lucis nullam poenam senserit passionis. ergo plagam lux sola sentit. numquidnam terra ant aqua aut aer cuiuspiam uulneris plagam sentit, aut lux fortassis animata sit, ant quodlibet corpus inanimum sentire potest, aut corpus est ullum, quod etsi uulnus non sentit, uulnerari non possit? uulnerari igitur lux potest, etsi sentire non potest, quia sicut nox inmissu luminis rumpitur, ita lux tenebris uulneratur. unde iucundissimis Asclepiadeis lusit poeta notissimus dicens: absentemque diem lux agit aemula, quam nox cum lacero uicta fugit peplo. quid dicis, ut lux plagam non sentit, ita diuinitas uulnus in passione non sensit? si ita est, uulnerari ergo potuit, etsi sentire non potuit, unumque fuit insensibilitatis, aliud corruptibilitatis.
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He says, indeed, why it cannot be said: "He felt with the affection of one suffering with him," when the Apostle thought it should be said: "They would never have crucified the Lord of glory," since, just as light can feel no wound of a blow, so also the author of light felt no pain of the passion. Therefore, it can be said: "But he felt with the affection of one suffering with him." It can indeed, because everything is permitted, but it ought not, because not everything edifies.
Yet I can scarcely restrain my laughter at this kind of comparisons and your propositions. A little while ago you had asserted that God ceases to be virtue and therefore changes; now, with a flaccid argument, you declaim that just as light can feel no wound of a blow, so also the author of light felt no pain of the passion. Therefore, light alone feels a blow. Does not earth, or water, or air feel the blow of any wound? Or is light perhaps animate? Or can any inanimate body feel? Or is there any body which, even if it does not feel a wound, cannot be wounded? Therefore, light can be wounded, even if it cannot feel, because just as night is broken by the intrusion of light, so light is wounded by darkness. Whence the most famous poet played with the most delightful Asclepiads, saying: "And the absent day, light, a rival, drives, which night, conquered, flees with torn robe." What do you say, that just as light does not feel a blow, so divinity did not feel a wound in the passion? If it is so, therefore it could be wounded, even if it could not feel, and one thing was of insensibility, another of corruptibility.
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non enim pro incorruptibilitate non doluit, si uulnerari potuit, quia lux et insensibilis est pariter et uulnerabilis. uide ne forsitan iste sit quem nobis adprobandum rere alti prolapsus erroris. tu dicis lucem corpoream homini communem simul et pecori eatenus, ut deum non sentire uulnus inflictum et quamlibet pulchrum corpus, corpus tamen summo incorporeo non adsimilas, sed exaequas, et in tam plectibili sententia non innocentiae tantum priuilegium tibi, sed laudis adrogas et nos, quia similitudinem dei, ut eius sicuti est similitudo sit, incorpoream dicamus, extra fidem. fore pronuntias. sed hinc postmodum, de adfectu interim disseramus. ergone si sic crucifixus est Christus, ut summae diuinitatis uniuerso mundo intemerabilis incorruptibilitas crucifixa credatur, dicas uelim, nisi iniuriosum est, quem post humilitatem mortis a summo deo, id est ipsa trinitate exaltatum esse credi sit licitum, cui nomen, quod supra omne sit nomen, fuisse conlatum? illi nempe arbitror, qui oboediens factus usque ad mortem propter ineffabilis humilitatis oboedientiam ineffabiliter sublimatus in gloriam est dei patris. aude sis non fateri eundem gloriae dominum quem fateris hominis filium. uerum tu illo, quo dictum est: numquam dominum gloriae crucifixissent, in id uti uoles, ut haud dubie credatur, quod ipsa diuinitas queat adfici, ' si potuit crucifigi.
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For it is not that he did not suffer on account of incorruptibility, if he could be wounded, because light is both insensible and vulnerable. See whether perhaps this is the man whom you think we should approve, fallen as he is from the height of error. You say that corporeal light, common to both man and beast, is such that God does not feel the wound inflicted, and you do not liken any beautiful body, though it be a body, to the supreme incorporeal, but you equalize them; and in such a culpable opinion you arrogate to yourself not only the privilege of innocence but of praise, and you pronounce us, because we say that the likeness of God, as it is his likeness, is incorporeal, to be outside the faith. But let us discuss this later; for now, let us speak about the affection. Therefore, if Christ was crucified in such a way that the inviolable incorruptibility of the supreme divinity is believed to have been crucified for the whole world, I would like you to tell me—unless it is offensive—who it is that, after the humility of death, is believed to have been exalted from the supreme God, that is, from the Trinity itself, and to whom a name, which is above every name, was conferred? To him, I think, who, made obedient unto death, because of the obedience of ineffable humility, was ineffably exalted into the glory of God the Father. Dare, if you will, not to confess that the same one is the Lord of glory whom you confess to be the Son of man. But you wish to use that statement, "They would never have crucified the Lord of glory," in such a way that it is undoubtedly believed that the divinity itself can be affected, if it could be crucified.
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igitur aperto proloquio manifestasti sententiam tuam. nam cum idcirco adfici deum inreprehensibiliter te dixisse arbitreris, quoniam gloriae dominum crucifixum apostolus dicit, et crucifixum gloriae dominum sic accipi ueritas suadeat, ne diuinitas crucifixa credatur, tu uero adfici diuinitatem obnixius argumentere, defensitandi erroris studio haud animaduertis poenale illud, quod in homine Christo persequentium scelus exercuit, ipsi inuiolabili diuinitati inflictum fuisse te dicere. quod si ita est, pati pro hominibus deus et non adsumpto potuit homine, quia si in homine passibilis, et extra hominem potuit esse passibilis. sed eundem forte contendas substantiae humanae contagione mutatum. idcircoque post adsumptum hominem factum fuisse passibilem. non igitur incorruptibilis deus, quia quidquid deteriorari potest et corrumpi profecto potest sed corrumpi diuinitas non potest nec commutari, igitur nec pati potest.
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Therefore, by your open statement you have made your opinion clear. For while you think you have said that God is affected blamelessly because the apostle says the Lord of glory was crucified, and truth persuades us to understand the crucified Lord of glory in such a way that the divinity is not believed to have been crucified, you, however, argue more stubbornly that the divinity is affected, and in your zeal to defend your error you do not notice that you are saying that the penal suffering which the crime of the persecutors inflicted on the man Christ was inflicted on the inviolable divinity itself. If this is so, God could have suffered for men even without having assumed a man, because if he is passible in the man, he could also have been passible outside the man. But perhaps you contend that he was changed by the contamination of the human substance, and that for this reason he became passible after assuming the man. Therefore God is not incorruptible, because whatever can be deteriorated can certainly also be corrupted; but divinity cannot be corrupted nor changed, therefore it cannot suffer either.
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Nunc porro superest, ut quoniam Christus homo uerus deus uerus ex duplici substantia una persona et deus homo et homo deus est, idem gloriae dominus et non sit crucifixus pro inuiolabili diuinitate et crucifixus sit in homine pro unitate personae. itaque miro atque incogitabili modo passus est [homo] deus, et non est passa diuinitas. cerne nunc igitur in id tantum temet apostoli testimonium uindicasse, non ut ex eodem robur sententia tua capesseret, sed ut scaeuae sententiae prauitas non lateret. tu scilicet uelut stipulante tibi per apostolum ueritate adfici diuinitatem dicis, sed apostolus crucifixum gloriae dominum in ea sui parte cogit intellegi, qua potuit crucifigi. tibi igitur, tibi admodum soli haec relicta sententia est, ut intemerabilis atque inaestimata diuinitas flagris caesa, clauis transfixa, lancea transfossa, doloribus adfecta, morte consumpta sit, quia in uno eodemque Christo credi renuis aliud subditum morti, aliud passioni. sed premente ueritate uerba commutas inquiens, quod quibus adficitur creata substantia substantialiter in deo sint, non accessibiliter. perge sic dicere, non interspergat sinceritati ueritatis ignorantia praesumptiosa mendacium. humanum est nempe delinquere: humanum est pro delicto paenitere. nemo periculosius peccauerit, quam qui peccata defendit.
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Now it remains, since Christ, true man and true God, from a double substance one person, is both God and man and man and God, that the same Lord of glory was not crucified in respect of the inviolable divinity and was crucified in the man in respect of the unity of the person. Thus in a wondrous and unthinkable way the God [man] suffered, and the divinity did not suffer. See now, therefore, that you have claimed the apostle's testimony for this one purpose only, not so that your opinion might gain strength from it, but so that the perversity of your crooked opinion might not lie hidden. You, of course, as if truth were stipulating for you through the apostle, say that the divinity is affected, but the apostle compels the Lord of glory crucified to be understood in that part of himself in which he could be crucified. This opinion, therefore, is left to you alone, that the inviolable and unassailable divinity was beaten with whips, pierced with nails, transfixed with a lance, afflicted with pains, consumed by death, because in one and the same Christ you refuse to believe that one thing was subject to death, another to suffering. But with truth pressing you, you change your words, saying that what the created substance is affected by is in God substantially, not accessibly. Go on speaking thus; do not let presumptuous ignorance intersperse falsehood with the sincerity of truth. It is human, of course, to err: it is human to repent of a fault. No one has sinned more dangerously than he who defends his sins.
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namque inpassibilem nullique adfectui subiacentem summae diuinitatis essentiam, ut tute pronuntias, cum philosophis non recusas. proinde intestinum bellum pelle animo. certum tibi sit ueritatem falso, sicut essentiam nihilo, haudquaquam posse misceri. tu autem dicis adfici, quem negas pati. si enim adfectu non caret, inpassibilitatis de eodem fallax professio est alterum alteri inmodice repugnat : qui ait, sensit conpatientis adfectu, non ait, quod in passione nihil senserit. porro tu dicis, quod deus non adficitur passibiliter, ergo adficitur non passibiliter. quod ita est ac si quispiam dicat: stat iste currens, dormit ille uigilans, quod utique non sinit contrariorum discrepantia. quo igitur proficit quod adicis passibiliter, cum dici uerissime plenissimeque possit non adficitur deus? non caret naeuo suspicionis biceps ista prolocutio. deum non dicis pati, quem dicis adfici. adfectio et passio unum idemque significat: aut utrumque sustuleris aut in alterutro utrumque seruaueris. non igitur dicendum est: non adficitur passibiliter deus, sed: non adficitur deus. si non adficitur, non sensit conpatientis adfectu. si sensit conpatientis adfectu, consequenter adficitur..
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For indeed you do not refuse, as you rightly declare, to affirm with the philosophers that the essence of the supreme divinity is impassible and subject to no affection. Therefore, banish this internal war from your mind. Be certain that truth can no more be mixed with falsehood than essence with nothingness. But you say that He is affected whom you deny to suffer. For if He is not without affection, the profession of impassibility concerning the same is deceitful; one thing excessively contradicts the other: he who says "He felt the affection of a fellow-sufferer" does not say that He felt nothing in the passion. Moreover, you say that God is not affected in a passible manner; therefore He is affected, but not in a passible manner. This is as if someone were to say: "This one stands while running, that one sleeps while waking," which the discrepancy of opposites certainly does not permit. What, then, is gained by your addition of "in a passible manner," when it can be said most truly and most fully: "God is not affected"? That twofold expression is not free from the blemish of suspicion. You do not say that God suffers, but you say that He is affected. Affection and passion signify one and the same thing: either remove both, or preserve both in each other. Therefore, it should not be said: "God is not affected in a passible manner," but: "God is not affected." If He is not affected, He did not feel the affection of a fellow-sufferer. If He felt the affection of a fellow-sufferer, He is consequently affected.
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Aio ego: nullis adficitur diuina substantia, inquis tu: deus non adficitur. redeamus in gratiam. pessumdetur e medio, qui te fortassis ignarum, quod certe patet, incautum respergit infamia. sed superadicis et apostolum dixisse pronuntias de Christo iam in caelis posito: habemus talem pontificem, qui possit conpati infirmitatibus nostris, et tamquam nihil hic sit pertractandum discutiendumque, satisfecisse te proposito gloriaris transiturus ad tertiam quaestionem. igitur ut quam breuissime responsum referam, pontifex ille, credo, est qui principaliter apud diuinitatem summae trinitatis humani generis oblata sacrificat, peccata expiat, uota commendate ipse ergo uerus sacerdos est, quia si filius dei secundum id quod aequalis est patri, non tam preces fundit, quam precantes exaudit, homo potius hic intellegendus est, quem pontificem apostolus dicens nostrisque infirmitatibus conpati pronuntians de ipso itidem dicit: Christus Iesus, qui mortuus est, immo etiam qui et resurrexit, qui est in dextera dei, qui etiam interpellat pronobis. ille ergo pontifex conpatitur nobis, qui et interpellat pro nobis. ille uero . qui interpellanti adnuit, ipsa trinitas non haberet utique quem sibi interpellare necessarium foret, si pati, aut adfici ullatenus posset. iamne intellegis aduersum potius ueritatis testimonium in patrocinium falsitatis adsumi ?
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I say: the divine substance is affected by nothing; you say: God is not affected. Let us be reconciled. Let the one who, perhaps taking advantage of your ignorance—which is certainly evident—has rashly spattered you with infamy be cast out from our midst. But you add further and declare that the Apostle said concerning Christ already placed in heaven: we have such a high priest who can sympathize with our infirmities, and as if nothing here needed to be examined and discussed, you boast that you have satisfied the proposition, about to move on to the third question. Therefore, to give my response as briefly as possible: that high priest, I believe, is the one who principally before the divinity of the supreme Trinity offers the sacrifices of the human race, expiates sins, commends vows. He himself, therefore, is the true priest, because if the Son of God, according to that which he is equal to the Father, does not so much pour forth prayers as he hears those praying, a man is rather to be understood here, whom the Apostle calls high priest and declares sympathizes with our infirmities, saying likewise of him: Christ Jesus, who died, indeed who also rose again, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. That high priest, therefore, sympathizes with us, who also intercedes for us. But the one who assents to the intercessor, the Trinity itself, would certainly not have anyone whom it would be necessary for it to intercede for itself, if it could in any way suffer or be affected. Do you not now understand that the testimony of truth is rather taken up in defense of falsehood?
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quoniam si quid huius modi, sicut supra diximus, in diuinis uoluminibus inuenitur, ad unitatem personae referendum est, quia sicut anima et corpus ex diuersa substantia unus est homo, ita deus et homo ex diuersa substantia unus est Christus. ac per hoc cum sit unus ex diuersa substantia, ipse se quodam modo petit, ipse se quodam modo pro nobis exaudit. innumera sunt quae super hoc dici promptissimum sit, sed quoniam non inpendio emolienda sunt, quae per se labascunt; in praesentiarum de his ista sufficiant.
IIII. ABHINC DE STATV ANIMAE DISPVTAT.
Status nunc animae humanae, hoc est imaginis diuinae uocatur in dubium. haec nempe est tertia illa quaestio, qua iste necessarius meus discernendarum naturarum causas ingressus spiritum uitae corpus esse pronuntiat adstruens se super hoc praeiudicatae auctoritatis patrum scita proferre, quos quidem non tam aliquid sibi perceptu mentis cognitum definisse, quam quaedam opinatos fuisse commemorat. et quia ipse, quantum loquitur, non tam probatae rationi aut intemerandae auctoritati, sed humanae magis opinioni concessit, id inpenso opere nititur, ut spreta auctoritate diuina, omissa quoque ratione perspicua, clausis ut aiunt oculis sibimet adsentiamur. Quicumque de deo ueraciter ac pie sentiunt, nihil ab eo non creatum, quod creari oportuerit, consequenter intellegunt.
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Since if anything of this kind, as we said above, is found in the divine volumes, it is to be referred to the unity of the person, because just as soul and body from diverse substance are one man, so God and man from diverse substance are one Christ. And through this, since he is one from diverse substance, he himself in a certain way seeks himself, he himself in a certain way hears himself for us. The things that could most readily be said on this are countless, but since they are not to be laboriously shaken which collapse by themselves, for the present let these suffice on these matters.
IV. FROM HERE HE DISPUTES ON THE STATE OF THE SOUL.
The state of the human soul, that is, of the divine image, is now called into doubt. This indeed is that third question, by which this necessary friend of mine, entering into the causes of distinguishing natures, pronounces the spirit of life to be a body, asserting that he brings forth on this the decrees of the prejudged authority of the fathers, whom he indeed recalls not so much to have defined something known to them by perception of the mind, as to have held certain opinions. And because he himself, as far as he speaks, has yielded not so much to proven reason or inviolable authority, but rather to human opinion, he strives with great labor that, spurning divine authority and also setting aside clear reason, with closed eyes, as they say, we should assent to him. Whoever truly and piously think about God consequently understand that nothing which it was fitting to be created was not created by him.
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causa enim creandarum rerum bonitas creatoris est, qui creare potens uniuersa quae uelit ut nihil bonitatis exercuisset, si nihil creasset, ita semiplena benignitate usus esset, si semiplenum aliquid condidisset. mirum autem uidetur subplemento rerum defore aliquid, si rosae flosculus non exsisteret, et non defore si incorporea substantia non esset creata. ne ergo non minimum aliquid, sed uel potissimum deforet creaturae plenitudini, debuit incorporea quoque substantia creari sed ad creatoris forte referatur iniuriam, si incorporeum aliquid ac sibi simile condidisse dicatur, quia simile deo nihil inuenitur in corpore. sed ab ipso deo similitudo dei anima dicitur humana, in corpore autem nulla esse potest similitudo diuina: incorporeum ergo erit, quod deo sit simile, humanus uero animus ad similitudinem dei factus est, incorporeus igitur est animus humanus.
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For the cause of creating things is the goodness of the creator, who, being able to create everything he wishes, would have exercised no goodness if he had created nothing, and would have used a half-full benevolence if he had created something half-full. But it seems strange that something would be missing from the fullness of things if the little flower of the rose did not exist, and that nothing would be missing if an incorporeal substance had not been created. So that not the least thing, but rather the most important thing, might be missing from the fullness of creation, an incorporeal substance also had to be created. But perhaps it is referred to as an injury to the creator if he is said to have created something incorporeal and like himself, because nothing like God is found in a body. But the human soul is said by God himself to be the likeness of God, and in a body there can be no divine likeness: therefore, that which is like God will be incorporeal; the human mind, moreover, was made in the likeness of God; therefore the human mind is incorporeal.
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V. QVOD INCORPOREVM CORPOREO ET INLOCALE LOCALI DIGNITATE PRAEPONITVR.
Omne autem incorporeum corporeo et inlocale locali et insecabile secabili et uiuens non uiuenti in naturae dignitate praeponitur. enimuero creator omnipotentissimus idemque benignissimus substantiam omni corpore potiorem sibique similem si non creauit, quam I creari debuisse iam constitit, aut noluit aut certe non potuit. si noluit et non potuit, omnipotentia caruit. si potuit et noluit, quod etiam cogitatu est nefas, inuidit. non autem potest uel omnipotentia non posse uel bonitas inuidere. creare ergo incorporeum et potuit et uoluit, igitur et creauit. nisi forte dicas fieri non debuisse,, quod ille potuit uelle, qui non potuit uelle, nisi quod debuit facere. quid mihi nunc creatum non esse contendas, quod creari debuisse non dubitas? creari certe debuisse, quia cum creator incorporeus maximum bonum sit, et creatum incorporeum magnum bonum sit, et creatum corpus, quod nisi creatum non est, aliquod bonum sit, a summo deo qui est maximum bonum, sicut creatum est corpus aliquod bonum, ita creari debuit incorporeum magnum bonum, quia non conueniret omnipotenti bono, qui fecit omnia bona ualde, perfectionem plenitudinis rerum uel in minimis truncam facere, non dicam potissima non creare.
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5. That the incorporeal is set above the corporeal, and the non-local above the local, in dignity.
Now every incorporeal thing is set above a corporeal one, every non-local thing above a local one, every indivisible thing above a divisible one, and every living thing above a non-living one, in the dignity of nature. Indeed, if the most omnipotent and likewise most benevolent creator did not create a substance superior to every body and like to himself—which it has already been established ought to have been created—then he either was unwilling or certainly was unable. If he was unwilling and unable, he lacked omnipotence. If he was able and unwilling—which is impious even to think—he was envious. But omnipotence cannot be unable, nor goodness be envious. Therefore, he both could and would create the incorporeal; therefore, he did create it. Unless perhaps you say that what he could will ought not to have been made, since he could not will anything except what he ought to do. Why do you now contend that what you do not doubt ought to have been created was not created? It certainly ought to have been created, because, since the incorporeal creator is the greatest good, and the created incorporeal is a great good, and the created body—which is not unless it is created—is some good, just as the body was created as some good by the supreme God, who is the greatest good, so the incorporeal, a great good, ought to have been created. For it would not befit the omnipotent good, who made all things very good, to make the perfection of the fullness of things truncated even in the least, not to say to fail to create the most powerful things.
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sed fortassis adstruetur aut incorpoream creaturam bonum non esse aut bonum creari non oportuisse aut quod Oportuerit fieri nequiuisse. sed summum bonum incorporeus creator, magnum bonum incorporea creatura: oportuit igitur a summo bono fieri magnum bonum, et potuit omnipotens facere, quod debuit bonus uelle. creauit ergo incorpoream substantiam, qui non facere non potuit quod fieri debuit, nisi forte dicatur aliquid debuisse fieri, quod ille non fecerit: consequens ergo erit aliquid illum fecisse, quod non debuerit.
Sed dices mihi: si aliquod incorporeum creatum est, aequiperat ergo creatorem. de uero homine, hoc est de hominis anima quaerimus. non est haec aequalis deo, sed similis: similis utique quantum incorporea incorporeo, inferior quantum creata creatori, similis quantum intellectualis lux luci intellegibili: quantum mutabilis creatura inmutabili creatori dissimilis. aliud namque est ueritas, aliud imago ueritatis. sed sicut rei corporeae nulla imago esse potest nisi corpus, ita nequaquam imago incorporei inuenitur in corpore. nam illic ubi de creatione hominis Moyses loquitur, sic ait: et dixit deus: faciamus hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem nostram. et fecit hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem suam. ad imaginem dei creauit eum, masculum et feminam. diuinae istud.
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But perhaps it will be argued that an incorporeal creature is either not a good, or that it ought not to have been created, or that what ought to have been done could not be done. But the highest good is the incorporeal creator, a great good is the incorporeal creature: therefore it was fitting that a great good be made by the highest good, and the omnipotent one was able to do what the good one ought to have willed. Therefore he created an incorporeal substance, who could not fail to do what ought to have been done, unless perhaps it is said that something ought to have been done which he did not do: consequently it will follow that he did something which he ought not to have done.
But you will say to me: if some incorporeal thing has been created, it is therefore equal to the creator. We are inquiring about the true man, that is, about the human soul. This is not equal to God, but similar: similar, indeed, insofar as it is incorporeal to an incorporeal being, inferior insofar as it is a creature to the creator, similar insofar as it is intellectual light to intelligible light: dissimilar insofar as a mutable creature is to an immutable creator. For truth is one thing, the image of truth another. But just as no image of a corporeal thing can exist unless it is a body, so an image of an incorporeal thing is never found in a body. For there, where Moses speaks about the creation of man, he says thus: "And God said: let us make man in our image and likeness. And he made man in his image and likeness. He created him in the image of God, male and female." That is divine.
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auctoritatis oraculum nec eloquio eludi potest nec argumento falli nec uirtute uinci nec arte uitiari. si imago dei est humana anima, incorporei uidelicet imago est, si incorporei imago est, incorporea utique ipsa est. at si incorporea non est, incorporei prorsus imago non est. sed incorporei imago est, incorporea igitur est: nam quia creata est, non est deus, quia imago dei est, non est corpus.
VI. QVOD CVM OMNE INCORPOREVM INVISIBILE SIT, NON AVTEM OMNE CORPOREVM VISIBILE EST.
Sed subicis a nescio quibus, quorum tamen nominum nobis notitiam subripis, sic doceri, ut alia dicant esse incorporea, alia inuisibilia. tremendae scilicet peritiae tractatores, qui usque ad hoc penetrauere secretum: si alia incorporea sunt, alia inuisibilia, ergo incorporea non sunt inuisibilia. postponendum est igitur incorporeum omni corporeo, quia dicit per apostolum ueritas: quae uidentur, temporalia sunt, quae autem non uidentur, aeterna sunt. uerum tu creatricem creatamque substantiam ita discernis, ut alia sint incorporea, alia inuisibilia. inuisibile igitur omne corporeum, et incorporeum omne uisibile. istic egomet audeo sciscitari, inuisibilisne sit deus anne uisibilis? si corporeum negas, uisibilem non recusas. si inuisibilem dicis, corporeum confiteris.
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authority's oracle can neither be eluded by eloquence, nor deceived by argument, nor overcome by force, nor corrupted by art. If the human soul is the image of God, it is evidently the image of an incorporeal being; if it is the image of an incorporeal being, then it is itself incorporeal. But if it is not incorporeal, it is absolutely not the image of an incorporeal being. Yet it is the image of an incorporeal being; therefore it is incorporeal: for because it is created, it is not God; because it is the image of God, it is not a body.
VI. THAT WHILE EVERY INCORPOREAL BEING IS INVISIBLE, NOT EVERY CORPOREAL BEING IS VISIBLE.
But you object from certain persons—whose names, however, you conceal from our knowledge—that they teach in such a way that they say some things are incorporeal, others invisible. Dreadfully learned expositors, to be sure, who have penetrated to this secret: if some things are incorporeal, others invisible, then incorporeal things are not invisible. Therefore every incorporeal thing is to be placed after every corporeal thing, because truth says through the Apostle: "Things that are seen are temporal, but things that are not seen are eternal." But you distinguish between creative and created substance in such a way that some things are incorporeal, others invisible. Therefore every corporeal thing is invisible, and every incorporeal thing is visible. At this point I myself dare to inquire: is God invisible or visible? If you deny that He is corporeal, you do not refuse that He is visible. If you say He is invisible, you confess that He is corporeal.
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secundum hanc ergo sententiam, quae tibi nobisque sit procul, aeternus inuisibilis incorporeus deus aut incorporeus non erit, aut uisibilis erit et aeternus non erit. quiddam tamen cogitare uoluit, sed eloqui non ualuit patentium nempe causarum doctor ignarus, quem dicere uisum reor esse quaedam corporea quae uideri nequeant, cum sit uniuerso incorporeo proprium non uideri, ac per hoc corporea quaepiam inuisibilia esse posse, porro incorporea nisi inuisibilia esse non posse. nam cum omne incorporeum inuisibile sit, non omne inuisibile incorporeum est. uox enim non uidetur et corpus est quamquam propter eminentiam uisus etiam quae ad reliquos pertinent sensus uideri dicamus, sicut saepe dicimus: uide quid sonat, cum sonus ad auditum pertineat, non ad uisum, nec tamen ita dicimus: audi quid lucet, quia praeeminentior ceteris sensibus uisus quae inferiorum sunt abusiue sibi uindicat, cum potestatibus eorum potentiam suam non misceat. quocirca et uisibilia sunt omnia quae sentiri quocumque sensu corporis possunt, si ad uisum cuncta referamus, et non omnia uisibilia sunt, si unicuique sensui quod sibi est speciale reddamus. hinc omnia scilicet principalia corpora quae dicuntur elementa procul dubio uisibilia sunt, sentiri experimur.
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According to this opinion, therefore, which is far from you and from me, either God, eternal, invisible, and incorporeal, will not be incorporeal, or He will be visible and will not be eternal. Yet he wished to think of something, but was unable to express it—an ignorant teacher of obvious causes, I suppose, who meant to say that there are certain corporeal things which cannot be seen, since it is proper to everything incorporeal not to be seen, and thus some corporeal things can be invisible, while incorporeal things cannot but be invisible. For although everything incorporeal is invisible, not everything invisible is incorporeal. For sound is not seen, yet it is a body, although, because of the preeminence of sight, we often say that things pertaining to the other senses are seen, just as we often say: "See what sounds," when sound belongs to hearing, not to sight; yet we do not say: "Hear what shines," because sight, being more eminent than the other senses, improperly claims for itself what belongs to the lower senses, while it does not mingle its own power with theirs. Therefore, all things that can be perceived by any bodily sense are visible, if we refer everything to sight, and not all things are visible if we assign to each sense what is special to it. Hence, all the principal bodies, which are called elements, are undoubtedly visible; we experience them being perceived.
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ex quorum metrico pro portione conuentu, conpactis rate dimensionibus, uegetante anima uiuens corpus efficitur, quamquam multa sint, quae animata non sunt et uiuere negari non possunt. sed de eis loquimur, quae non solum uiuunt, sed etiam sentiunt, sicut sunt animata rationis expertia. de quibus paululum disputatione dilata de nobis loquimur.
Igitur cum ex anima simus et corpore atque, ut corpus animus esse non potest, sic animus corpus esse non possit, animus qui sentit in corpore, etsi per uisibile sentit, inuisibiliter sentit. aliud enim est uisus, aliud oculus, aliud aures, aliud auditus, et nares aliud, aliud odoratus, et os aliud, aliud gustus. nec hoc idem manus et tactus. igitur tactu calentia frigentiaque discernimus, ipsum uero sensum tangendi non tangimus. nec frigus illic namque nec calor est. et gustatu dulcia atque amara sentimus, sed gustatum gustare non possumus. nihil enim uel amarum in illo uel dulce est. naribus odores accipimus, olfactum tamen olfactu non capimus, quia nihil olet olfactus, et auribus uoces haurimus, sed cum nihil sonet auditus, ipsum non audimus auditum.
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from whose metrical arrangement in due proportion, with compacted dimensions, the living body is made, with the soul animating it, although there are many things that are not animate and yet cannot be denied to live. But we are speaking of those which not only live but also feel, such as animate beings lacking reason. Having deferred discussion of these for a little while, we speak of ourselves.
Therefore, since we consist of soul and body, and just as body cannot be soul, so soul cannot be body, the soul which feels in the body, even though it feels through the visible, feels invisibly. For sight is one thing, the eye another; the ears one thing, hearing another; the nostrils one thing, smell another; the mouth one thing, taste another. Nor are the hand and touch the same. Thus by touch we discern hot and cold, but we do not touch the sense of touch itself. For there is neither cold nor heat in it. And by taste we perceive sweet and bitter, but we cannot taste taste itself. For there is nothing bitter or sweet in it. With the nostrils we receive odors, yet we do not grasp smell by smell, because smell has no odor; and with the ears we drink in voices, but since hearing sounds nothing, we do not hear hearing itself.
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coloratas oculis formas adspicimus et oculis quia coloratae formataeque sunt, cernimus, sed uisum, quia nec coloratus nec formatus est, non uidemus: iuge namque uideremus, si luceret uisus, et audiremus semper, si sonaret auditus, et perpetuo odoraremur, si fraglaret olfactus, et indefessim gustaremus, si saperet gustatus, aeternumque tangeremus, si se ipsum tangeret tactus. atque ut de ceteris taceam, si gustari posset gustatus, nemo posset esse ieiunus, nec extrinsecus adhibenda forent in quae semet sensus exsereret, si se ipse sentiret. aliud est ergo membrum per quod sentimus, et sensus aliud quo sentimus, quia inter inuisibile incorporeum et corpus uisibile est illud inuisibile corporeum, quod in nobis uisus, auditus, odoratus, gustus et tactus est: quae quoniam non nisi in animato sunt corpore, ex utriusque diuersi commercio eadem et corporea sunt et inuisibilia trahentia de corpore uisibili ut corporea sint, de incorporeo animo ut sint inuisibilia. non igitur iurta sententiam tuam illud erit inuisibile, quod incorporeum non erit, tamquam incorporeo uisibile et corporeo inuisibile esse sit proprium, quando quidem nihil inuisibile corporis foret, nisi inuisibile illud incorporei inuisibilitas faceret, quia in eodem, sicut supra diximus, homine et incorporeum inuisibile est anima et inuisibile corporeum, quod de corpore uisibili inuisibiliter agit anima.
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We see colored and shaped forms with the eyes, and because they are colored and shaped, we perceive them with the eyes, but we do not see sight, because it is neither colored nor shaped: for we would see it perpetually if sight shone, and we would always hear if hearing sounded, and we would perpetually smell if smell were fragrant, and we would taste without ceasing if taste had flavor, and we would touch eternally if touch touched itself. And, to say nothing of the rest, if taste could be tasted, no one could be hungry, nor would external things need to be applied upon which the sense might exert itself, if it perceived itself. Therefore, the limb through which we perceive is one thing, and the sense by which we perceive is another, because between the invisible incorporeal and the visible body there is that visible corporeal thing which in us is sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch: which, since they exist only in an animate body, from the diverse combination of both are both corporeal and invisible, drawing from the visible body that they be corporeal, and from the incorporeal mind that they be invisible. Therefore, according to your opinion, that will not be invisible which is not incorporeal, as if being visible to the incorporeal and invisible to the corporeal were its property, since nothing of the body would be invisible, unless the invisibility of the incorporeal made it invisible, because in the same man, as we said above, both the incorporeal soul is invisible and the corporeal invisible, which the soul invisibly works from the visible body.
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VII. QVOD EX QVATVOR ELEMENTIS CONSTENT QVINQVEPERTITI SENSVS CORPORIS.
Iam uero quaecumque corporis sensibus tangimus, ita ad quosque eorum quaeque ex illis speciatim pertinent, ut in communionem propriorum alios non admittant. est ergo inter uniuersa corporea solis lux sine dubitatione praestantior. haec ad illud supremum in uniuerso corporeo pertinet elementum, quod ignis dicitur. hinc est quod etiam in corpore humano principalem prae omnibus sensibus locum uisus accepit. ab interno scilicet calore cordis ac iecoris igniculi quidam indefessim scintillantes in cameram capitis quasi in caelum nostri corporis subuolant. ex quibus radii per oculorum media profusi ac lumini extero commixti corporum quae inciderint. repercussu retrouersim cedentes eorundem colores ac formas hauriunt. animaduertis igitur summum in elementis ignem, pulcherrimam in coloribus lucem, praecipuum in sensibus uisum. : hunc merito atque potentia auditus insequitur illi elemento compos, quod Graeci uocant aethera: qui licet aeris sit natura,, tamen quia quasdam quasi faeculentias e supremis suis deor-' sum uersus uelut in fundum digerit, purior atque subtilior hunc procellosum aerem et naturaliter nubigenum et loco et dignitate supereminet. hinc est quod purissimus aer faciliorem. et longius potentem facit auditum.
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CHAPTER VII: THAT THE FIVE-FOLD SENSES OF THE BODY CONSIST OF THE FOUR ELEMENTS.
Now indeed, whatever we touch with the bodily senses pertains to each of them in such a way that they do not admit others into the communion of their own properties. Therefore, among all corporeal things, the light of the sun is without doubt more excellent. This pertains to that highest element in the whole corporeal realm, which is called fire. Hence it is that in the human body, sight has received the principal place among all the senses. For from the internal heat of the heart and liver, certain little sparks, tirelessly glittering, fly up into the chamber of the head as if into the heaven of our body. From these, rays spread through the middle of the eyes and, mingled with external light, absorb the colors and shapes of bodies that have fallen upon them, by a rebound returning backwards. You therefore notice the highest fire among the elements, the most beautiful light among colors, the preeminent sight among the senses. Hearing follows this in merit and power, being composed of that element which the Greeks call aether: which, although it is of the nature of air, yet because it discharges certain dregs, as it were, from its highest parts downwards as if into a bottom, it is purer and more subtle, and surpasses this stormy and naturally cloud-bearing air both in place and dignity. Hence it is that the purest air makes hearing easier and more far-reaching.
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nam sicut oculi sine formis corporum atque extrario lumine contemplari nequeunt, sic aures nisi aere aut percusso aut flato non sentiunt. ita et narium sensus, nam sicut aer sonis inficitur, ut in auribus operetur auditum, sic itidem hic ipse inficitur odoribus, ut in naribus faciat odoratum, quibus inesse naturaliter nisi adtracto aere non sentitur. gustandi uero sensus absque humoris adminiculo nequaquam agere se posse hinc euidens facit indicium, quod nihil sapidum, si accipitur lingua arente, sentitur. de tactu uero dubitari non aestimo imo elementorum, hoc est terrae esse simillimum.
Age nunc ut ad illud, propter quod ista tractauimus, reuertamur: en uisus et lucem et alia per eandem corpora contemplatur ac sentit. num quidnam sibi aliquid hinc usurpat auditus? rursum meatus aurium sonos et formatas accipiunt uoces. numquid hinc aliquid sibi uindicat uisus ? per antra narium generis innumeri capimus odores, nihil certe de his sentire ualet auditus. forte in saporum exploratione odoratui communicat gustus, aut ad sentienda aspera uel lenia gustus permittit aliquid tactus? ecce uox uisu sensu eminentiore non cernitur, lux perinde non auditur, uox naribus certe non capitur, gustu fraglantia non accipitur, sapor tantum in ore sentitur.
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For just as the eyes cannot perceive without the forms of bodies and external light, so the ears do not sense unless the air is either struck or blown. And so it is with the sense of the nostrils, for just as the air is infected with sounds so that it may produce hearing in the ears, so likewise this same air is infected with odors so that it may produce smell in the nostrils, which are not felt to be present naturally unless by drawn-in air. But that the sense of taste can by no means act without the aid of moisture is made evident by this clear indication: nothing savory is perceived if it is taken with a dry tongue. Concerning touch, I do not think it should be doubted, but rather that it is most similar to the elements, that is, to earth.
Now let us return to that for the sake of which we have treated these matters: behold, sight contemplates and perceives both light and other things through the same bodies. Does hearing perhaps usurp anything from this for itself? Again, the passages of the ears receive sounds and formed voices. Does sight claim anything from this for itself? Through the caverns of the nostrils we capture odors of countless kinds; certainly hearing is unable to sense any of these. Perhaps taste communicates with smell in the exploration of flavors, or touch allows something to taste for perceiving rough or smooth things? Behold, a voice is not seen by the more eminent sense of sight; light, likewise, is not heard; a voice is certainly not captured by the nostrils; fragrance is not received by taste; flavor is perceived only in the mouth.
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VIII. QVOD OMNIS ANIMA EX NVLLO PRORSVS ELEMENTO AVT QVOLIBET CORPORE SIT FACTA.
Ecce habes omnigenum corpus ex omnibus elementis in fabricam corporis humani aeternae illius musicae uix cogitabilibus modis atque harmoniae ratione permixtum. elige nunc ex quo corporum genere anima sit, si corpus est anima. quia si non aut ex uno horum aut ex aliquibus aut ex omnibus corporibus est anima, non est corpus. sed quid nunc faciam? quo me uertam acutissimi et doctissimi disputatoris ingenio et arte praeuentus? qui scilicet intellegens nullum corpus esse posse, nisi aut principaliter ex nihilo creatum, sicut elementa sunt corporum, aut ex his analogica ratione formatum, animam corpus esse decernens maluit eandem ex uno principalium corporum fictam quam ex omnibus fuisse conpositam. callido uidelicet cautus ingenio noluit animae substantiam multorum corporum congregare mixtura, ne ex hisdem contracta principiis quibus corpus extrarium, si perinde diceretur potuisse formari, eatenus uideretur posse dissolui. quapropter aerem delegit, ex quo aut cui animam similem fore decernat adiciens testimonium sui nescio cuius auctoris, cuius haec uerba sunt: nonnullae sunt, inquit, spiritales naturae, ut angeli, archangeli ceteraeque uirtutes: ipsa quoque anima nostra uel certe aer iste subtilis, tamen incorporeae nullatenus aestimandae. haeccine mandantur uerba membranis?
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CHAPTER VIII: THAT NO SOUL WHATSOEVER IS MADE FROM ANY ELEMENT OR ANY BODY WHATSOEVER.
Behold, you have a body of every kind, composed from all the elements into the fabric of the human body by the scarcely conceivable modes of that eternal music and the principle of harmony. Choose now from which kind of body the soul is made, if the soul is a body. For if the soul is not from one of these, nor from some, nor from all bodies, then it is not a body. But what shall I do now? Whither shall I turn, forestalled by the genius and art of a most acute and learned disputant? He, clearly understanding that no body can exist unless it is either created principally from nothing, as the elements of bodies are, or formed from these by analogical reasoning, and decreeing that the soul is a body, preferred that it be fashioned from one of the principal bodies rather than composed from all. With cunning caution, of course, he did not wish the substance of the soul to be assembled from a mixture of many bodies, lest, having been contracted from the same principles as the external body, if it were said to have been able to be formed accordingly, it might seem able to be dissolved. Therefore he chose air, from which or to which he decides the soul is similar, adding the testimony of some author of his, whose words are these: "There are," he says, "some spiritual natures, such as angels, archangels, and other powers: also our own soul, or certainly that subtle air, yet they are in no way to be considered incorporeal." Are these words entrusted to parchment?
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eo istud agitur negotium, quod agimus? omissis omnibus hac tantum lance pendebit, ut si animam aut ex aere factam aut aeri similem ratio discussa patefecerit, nunc in aduersarii, tunc in magistri sententiam pedibus ut aiunt transeam ueniam deprecaturus erroris mei. sin, ut est et egomet pro ratae ueritatis iure mihi uindico, non humana tantum, sed omnis omnino anima non solum non ex aere, sed ex nullo prorsus (constare) corpore ratiocinando probabitur, fas erit ut nobis aut consentias aut ignoscas.
VIIII. ARQVMENTVM QVOD ANIMA EX NVLLO PRORSVS CORPORE SIT CREATA.
Iam superius patuit ignis elementum elemento aeris sicut loco, ita etiam potentia praeeminere. quod euidenter ostendit ignis iste terrenus, qui mobilitate uix conprehensibili uelut in regionem suam sursum uersus naturali pondere rapitur. quod si etiam ex hoc non daretur agnosci, uel hinc manifesto posset intellegi, quod omnis aer solis praesentia clarescit et tenebrescit absentia. sed et . illud maximae rationis est, quod aer ignem patitur ut caleat, nec tamen ab aere aliquid patitur ignis ut frigeat. aer quibuslibet uasculis includi et contineri potest, cum hoc prorsus igni non accidat. est ergo ignis aere perspicua ratione praestantior, uisus uero nobis ex igne, qui utique sensus homini belluaeque communis est, sic tamen ut nonnullae inrationales animantes prae hominibus uigeant acumine uidendi.
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This business is being conducted for the sake of that which we are undertaking. Setting aside everything else, it will hang on this one scale alone: if reasoned inquiry reveals that the soul is either made from air or similar to air, I will now cross over, as they say, to the side of my adversary, and then to the opinion of my teacher, begging pardon for my error. But if, as is the case and as I claim for myself by the right of established truth, it is proven by reasoning that not only the human soul, but every soul whatsoever, not only is not made from air, but is made from no body at all, it will be right for you either to agree with us or to forgive us.
CHAPTER IX: ARGUMENT THAT THE SOUL IS CREATED FROM NO BODY WHATSOEVER.
It has already been shown above that the element of fire surpasses the element of air both in place and in power. This is clearly demonstrated by that earthly fire, which, with an almost incomprehensible mobility, is borne upward toward its own region by a natural weight. But if this were not even granted to be recognized, it could be understood from this manifest fact: that all air brightens in the presence of the sun and darkens in its absence. Moreover, this is of the greatest reason: that air suffers from fire so as to become hot, yet fire suffers nothing from air so as to become cold. Air can be enclosed and contained in any vessels whatsoever, whereas this does not happen to fire at all. Therefore, fire is clearly superior to air by a manifest reason. Sight, however, which comes to us from fire—a sense common to both man and beast—is such that some irrational animals nevertheless surpass men in keenness of vision.
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si ergo negari nequit uisus ex igne esse et secundum tuam rationem anima ex aere, eminentior ergo est dignitate substantiae oculus pecudis, quam anima hominis, quia ille ex igne et haec ex aere.
Non inmerito animam localem putat et claustro corporis confirmat includi qui eandem aeriam iudicat. alterutrum nunc igitur eligas oportet: aut deteriorem uisu pecudis animam, si aeriam, aut non aeriam, si praestantiorem. cernis quam facile indoctae figmentum praesumptionis euanuit, praeterquam innumera super hoc argumentari promptissimum est. nempe si aeria est, ergo tenebrae illius corporei huius solis abscessus et lux eius huius ipsius itidem solis aduentus est. falsumque erit illud, quod euangelista pronuntiat dicens : eratluxuera, quae inluminat omnem hominemuenientem inhunc mundum, et illud quod propheta sub peccatorum persona loquitur: lumen ergo iustitiae non luxit nobis, et sol non est ortus nobis. numquid isti hunc corporeum solem uiuentes in hoc mundo non uiderant, sed incerporales oculi solem incorporeum requirebant P ualde autem mirum uidetur, si lux ista habeat oculos quos inluminet, illa autem uera non habeat: aut si habet. sicuti uere habet unde uideri incorporeum potest, non solum non aerium, sed arbitror non esse corpoream.
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If, therefore, it cannot be denied that sight is from fire, and, according to your reasoning, the soul is from air, then the eye of a beast is more eminent in dignity of substance than the soul of a man, because the former is from fire and the latter from air.
Not undeservedly does he who judges the soul to be airy think it local and affirm it to be enclosed within the prison of the body. Now, therefore, you must choose one of the two: either the soul is inferior to the sight of a beast, if it is airy, or it is not airy, if it is more excellent. You see how easily the figment of unlearned presumption has vanished, besides which it is very easy to argue many things on this point. Indeed, if it is airy, then its darkness is the departure of this corporeal sun, and its light is the arrival of this same sun. And that which the Evangelist declares, saying, "There was the true light, which illuminates every man coming into this world," and that which the prophet speaks in the person of sinners, "Therefore the light of justice did not shine for us, and the sun did not rise for us," will be false. Surely these men, living in this world, had not seen this corporeal sun, but were their incorporeal eyes seeking an incorporeal sun? It seems very strange, if this light has eyes which it illuminates, but that true light does not have them: or if it has them, just as it truly has that by which it can be seen incorporeally, then it is not only not airy, but I think it is not corporeal.
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X. QVOD IAM FORMATA SVBSTANTIA NON POTEST DICI MATERIA.
Illud iam quale est, quod in ipso disputationis tuae principio admonendum credidisti esse lectorem, ut ad subtiliora illa cogitanda animum praeparet? a summis ad ima, ab incorporeis ad corporea rationalem nostrum conaris abducere et quasi docens nos ad subtilia mentis oculum praeparare paulo post adicis et dicis: quidquid creatum est, materiam uideri, quam corpoream esse decernis. si adhuc creatura materia est, nondum ergo homo formatus est, quia dicitur deo: qui creasti hominem ex materia informi. formarum autem siue minus siue amplius pro qualitate uel genere speciosarum plenus est mundus, materia uero informis est mundusque formatus, non est ergo creatura materia.
XI. QVOD OMNE INCORPOREVM SIVE CORPOREVM QVIDQVID EST CREATVM EST.
Post haec argumentaris ac dicis, idcirco incorporeum creatum nil esse, quia quidquid factori s.uo conprehensibile sit incorporeum esse non. possitsub hac ergo ratione ipse sibi deus ignotus es.t: qui si idcirco incorporeum nihil creauit, ne aliquid creatum notitiam creatoris excederet, cum uel corporeum uel incorporeum nihil nisi praecedente scientia creantis exstiterit, uidelicet quia nihil nesciens fecit, se ipsum ergo prae omnibus nescit, qui incorporaliter antecellit omnem substantiam quam creauit, ac per hoc maior se ipso est, qui sui capax non est.
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X. THAT ALREADY FORMED SUBSTANCE CANNOT BE CALLED MATTER.
Now what sort of thing is that which you believed the reader should be reminded of at the very beginning of your disputation, so that he might prepare his mind for thinking about those more subtle matters? You try to lead our rational mind from the highest to the lowest, from incorporeal to corporeal things, and, as if teaching us to prepare the eye of the mind for subtle things, you add shortly thereafter and say: whatever is created is seen to be matter, which you determine to be corporeal. If creation is still matter, then man is not yet formed, because it is said to God: who created man from unformed matter. But the world is full of forms, whether lesser or greater according to the quality or kind of beautiful things, while matter is unformed and the world is formed; therefore, creation is not matter.
XI. THAT EVERYTHING INCORPOREAL OR CORPOREAL THAT EXISTS IS CREATED.
After this you argue and say that nothing created is incorporeal, because whatever is comprehensible to its maker cannot be incorporeal. Under this reasoning, therefore, God himself is unknown to himself: for if he created nothing incorporeal, lest something created exceed the knowledge of the creator, since nothing, whether corporeal or incorporeal, existed except by the preceding knowledge of the creator—evidently because he made nothing unknowingly—then he himself, who surpasses incorporeally every substance he created, is ignorant of himself before all things, and by this he is greater than himself, who is not capable of comprehending himself.
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quod quia dici ratione non sinitur, consequens est, ut ideo incorporeum quippiam non creauerit, ne sibi creatum aliquid inconprehensibile esse possit, cum ipse summus incorporeus sibi ignotus esse non possit. uide quam paruo negotio ueritatis calor frigentium uerborum pruinas liquefaciat. et cum discernere nequeas a creato materiam, ab informi formatum, ab aere spiritum, sic imaginem dei pronuntias tamquam potissimorum scitus, qui minimorum probaris ignarus. iam nunc testimoniorum uel maxime penuria coactus de quodam opere sancti Hieronymi capitulum quoddam, quod quidem te constat non intellexisse, subiungis, quo ait: globos siderum corporatos esse spiritus arbitrantur. omnem qui arbitratur dubitare non dubium est. beatum uero Hieronymum de spiritibus corporatis quorundam referre dicis arbitrium: qui si arbitrantium, hoc est dubitantium sequitur forte sententiam, cum eiusdem quoque tu sequare, cumque non nisi ab ignorantia proficiscatur dubiets arbitrantis, agnosce te nobis quaerentibus ueritatem pro una quam polliceris scientia multorum nescientias adtulisse. nam cum quasi probatissimo testimonio eius utaris, qui de eis dubitans, quorum testimoniis utitur, eos dubitantes adfert, quos testes adhibet, quid te posse pronuntiare censendum est, qui ab auctoris tui dubitantis auctore dubio tertius ipse iam dubitas?
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Because it is not permitted by reason to say this, it follows that he did not create something incorporeal, lest something created could be incomprehensible to him, since the supreme incorporeal being cannot be unknown to himself. See how easily the warmth of truth melts the frosts of frigid words. And when you cannot distinguish matter from the created, the formed from the unformed, spirit from air, you pronounce on the image of God as if you were an expert on the most important matters, while you are proven ignorant of the least. Now, compelled by a great scarcity of testimonies, you append a certain chapter from a certain work of Saint Jerome, which you clearly did not understand, in which he says: "They think that the globes of the stars are embodied spirits." There is no doubt that everyone who thinks is in doubt. But you say that the blessed Jerome reports the opinion of certain people about embodied spirits: if he follows the opinion of those who think, that is, of those who doubt, and you also follow his opinion, and since the doubt of one who thinks proceeds only from ignorance, recognize that you, in seeking the truth from us, have brought many ignorances in place of the one knowledge you promised. For when you use as a most proven testimony a man who, doubting about those whose testimonies he uses, brings forward as witnesses those who are themselves in doubt, what are you to be considered capable of pronouncing, you who, third in line, already doubt, following the doubtful author of your doubting author?
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XII. QVOD PHILOSOPHOS NON INTELLEGENS GLOBOS SIDERVM CORPORATOS SPIRITVS ARBITRATVS SIT ET ANGELOS CORPORA ESSE DECERNAT.
Istud ego tamen philosophos reperio dicere, qui nonnullis disputationibus adstruunt et ipsos lunae uel solis globos incorporeis uidelicet spiritibus sub diuina quadam mente uegetari. sed oportet agnoscas hoc idem testimonium non solum pro sententia tua contra nos nihil, sed aduersus eandem pro nobis ualere plurimum. quod eo tibi accidit, quia philosophicam non intellegendo sententiam illud pro tua uidelicet parte posuisti, quod probe intellectum non nisi nostris tantum possit partibus suffragari. si enim corporeos spiritus esse dixissent, V in eorundem non definientium, sed arbitrantium potius auctoritate totus nihilominus argumentationis tuae cardo titubaret. cum uero illi non dubitanter, sed scienter, non corporeos, sed corporatos spiritus dixerint, nonne dinoscitur quodcumque est corporatum non esse corporeum? alioquin corporeos, non corporatos spiritus esse dixissent, quia illud est corporeum, quod incorporeus spiritus animat, illud autem incorporeum, quo corpus animatur. quapropter cum dilucide uiuificatum corpus ab, incorporeo uiuificante discreuerint, uidetur mihi quod iste corporis aduocatus aut philosophicam de substantia incorporali sententiam non intellexerit aut nequaquam pro se obiectare debuerit sub ipso sancti Hieronymi nomine.
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XII. THAT HE, NOT UNDERSTANDING THE PHILOSOPHERS, HAS SUPPOSED THE GLOBES OF THE STARS TO BE CORPOREAL SPIRITS AND DECIDES THAT ANGELS ARE BODIES.
I nevertheless find that the philosophers say this, who in some disputations maintain that the very globes of the moon or sun are animated by incorporeal spirits, of course, under a certain divine mind. But you must recognize that this same testimony not only does nothing for your opinion against us, but is very much in our favor against that same opinion. This happens to you because, not understanding the philosophical statement, you have set forth that which, properly understood, can only support our side. For if they had said that spirits are corporeal, then the whole hinge of your argument would totter on the authority of those who are not defining, but rather opining. But since they have said, not doubtfully but knowingly, not corporeal but *corporate* spirits, is it not discerned that whatever is corporate is not corporeal? Otherwise they would have said corporeal, not corporate, spirits, because that is corporeal which an incorporeal spirit animates, but that is incorporeal by which a body is animated. Therefore, since they have clearly distinguished the animated body from the incorporeal animator, it seems to me that this advocate of the body either did not understand the philosophical statement about incorporeal substance, or ought never to have brought it forward in his own behalf under the very name of Saint Jerome.
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Sequitur, et adiungit: si angeli, inquit, caelestia etiam corpora ad conparationem dei inmunda esse dicuntur, quid putas homo aestimandus est? quantum uideo, uiolentissimus disputator nec istud intellegit. angelos enim unius credit esse substantiae, ut melius de sideribus sentiat, quae corporatos spiritus iudicat. nam quid hic aliud uir doctus Hieronymus dixisse censebitur, nisi angelorum corpora habilitate sui atque potentia humanis longe praestare corporibus? pariter cum dixit: si angeli, etadiecit: caelestia etiam corpora, duo quaedam intellegi uoluit, angelos et caelestia corpora, quia cum angeli spiritus corporati sint, sunt in caelo quaedam quae sola sunt corpora. igitur euidenter ostendit nullum corpus quamlibet supremum loco, quamlibet potens motu incorporeis posse praeponi. rursum in conparatione gradum faciens dicit: adeo diuinis hominem conparari non posse, ut nec angelus possit. discernit praeterea corpus et carnem, quia cum omnis caro etiam corpus sit, non omne corpus est caro. unde apostolus: alia caro uolucrum, alia caro piscium, alia autem hominum. et corpora caelestia et corpora terrestria, euidenter ostendens terrenum corpus etiam carnem fore, caeleste uero non etiam carnem.
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He continues and adds: "If angels," he says, "are said to be unclean even compared to celestial bodies, what do you think man is to be considered?" As far as I can see, this most violent disputant does not understand even that. For he believes that angels are of one substance, so that he may think better of the stars, which he judges to be corporeal spirits. For what else will the learned man Jerome be considered to have said here, except that the bodies of angels far surpass human bodies in their fitness and power? When he said: "If angels," and added: "even celestial bodies," he wished two things to be understood: angels and celestial bodies, because since angels are corporeal spirits, there are in the heavens certain things which are bodies alone. Therefore he clearly shows that no body, however supreme in place, however powerful in motion, can be preferred to incorporeal things. Again, making a step in comparison, he says: "So much so that man cannot be compared to divine beings, that not even an angel can." Moreover, he distinguishes between body and flesh, because while every flesh is also a body, not every body is flesh. Whence the Apostle: "one flesh of birds, another flesh of fish, another of men." And celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies, clearly showing that a terrestrial body will also be flesh, but a celestial one will not also be flesh.
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ne forte hic aptari conueniat illud quod eundem Hieronymum dicere meminit: globos siderum corporatos esse spiritus arbitrantur, ut ipsa sidera siue angelorum corpora corpora utique caelestia sint, cum illi spiritus qui istis corporati sunt corporei non sint, sicut et deum dicimus incarnatum, et sicut ipsa anima humana incarnatur utique, cum administrandam suscipit carnem. cui quamlibet illud accidat, quod scriptura testatur dicens: corpus quod corrumpitur, adgrauat animam, non tamen eandem in corpus conuerti credendum est, quamlibet pondere carnis oneretur, quia nec corpus unquam in animae naturam commutabitur, quamlibet eadem uegetante moueatur, alioquin non erit corpus. unde illud quod apostolus dixit: et corpora caelestia et corpora terrestria, utrumnam de angelis an de sideribus an de terrenis quibusque corporibus, de quibus non est quaestio, intellegi uoluerit, ex consequentibus adparebit. indisimctim namque mox adicit ac dicit: alia caelestium gloria, alia autem terrestrium. et quae ista caelestia essent corpora, ut euidenter ostenderet: alia, inquit, claritas solis et alia claritas lunae et alia claritas stellarum. stella enim ab stella differt in gloria. ita et resurrectio mortuorum, eandem scilicet docens, quae est in siderum qualitate discrepantia, resuscitatorum corporum fore pro meritorum diuersitate distantiam.
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Lest it happen that what he recalls the same Jerome saying might fittingly be applied here: they think that the spheres of the stars are embodied spirits, so that the stars themselves, or the bodies of angels, are certainly celestial bodies, while those spirits which are embodied in them are not corporeal, just as we say that God is incarnate, and just as the human soul itself is incarnate, of course, when it undertakes to administer the flesh. To which, however it may happen that what Scripture testifies, saying: "the body which is corrupted weighs down the soul," yet it is not to be believed that the soul is converted into a body, however much it is burdened by the weight of the flesh, because neither will a body ever be changed into the nature of a soul, however much it is moved by that same soul animating it; otherwise it would not be a body. Hence, whether the Apostle meant by what he said: "both celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies" to be understood of angels, or of stars, or of any earthly bodies whatsoever, about which there is no question, will appear from what follows. For immediately, without distinction, he adds and says: "the glory of celestial things is one thing, but the glory of terrestrial things is another." And to show clearly what these celestial bodies were: "the brightness of the sun," he says, "is one thing, and the brightness of the moon is another, and the brightness of the stars is another. For a star differs from a star in glory. So also the resurrection of the dead," teaching, of course, the same thing, that just as there is a difference in the quality of the stars, so there will be a distinction in the bodies of the resurrected according to the diversity of their merits.
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hic utique absque ambiguo doctor gentium de sola resurrectione humanorum corporum disputans huius modi conparationibus usus est. nam sic causam loci huius ingreditur: dicit aliquis, quo modo resurgent mortui? quali autem corpore uenient? w et ab hoc loco usque ad istam de sideribus conparationem id ipsum sine alterius cuiusquam causae interiectione persequitur nullam faciens de anima mentionem, ne scilicet illud, quod de selis lunaeue stellarumque, corporum profecto caelestium, differentiis disseruit, scaeuo forte iudicio de animabus dictum quisque sentiret.
XIII. DE RESVRRECTIONE.
Nunc ergo si humanum corpus, terrenum scilicet atque moribundum, in id gloriae transformabitur, ut fiat de carnali spiritale secundum apostolum, qui ait: seminatur corpus animale, resurget corpus spiritale, et anima humana sic nunc spiritalis est, ut tamen corpus sit, ergo humana caro transferetur in animae dignitatem, cum facta fuerit corpus spiritale, et anima quae corpori iuste dominata, quae domino pie iusteque famulata est, quae deum fideliter credidit aut fortassis et sciuit, exaequata sibi carne sua ipsa quoque nihil pro substantiae qualitate promouebitur. et ubi est illud, non qui oculum carnis, sed qui oculum cordis mundauerit, deum uidebit? nam beati Mundo corde, quon' iam ipsi deum uidebunt. ergo forsan beatificabitur corpus pro modo suo et anima itidem pro modo suo.
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Here indeed, without ambiguity, the Doctor of the Gentiles, while discussing solely the resurrection of human bodies, made use of comparisons of this kind. For he enters upon the case of this passage in this way: someone asks, how will the dead rise? In what kind of body will they come? And from this point up to that comparison concerning the stars, he pursues the same subject without the interjection of any other cause, making no mention of the soul, lest, of course, anyone should, with a perverse judgment, think that what he argued concerning the differences of the sun, moon, and stars—bodies, indeed, of the heavens—was said about souls.
XIII. ON THE RESURRECTION.
Now, therefore, if the human body—that is, earthly and mortal—will be transformed into that glory, so that it becomes from carnal spiritual, according to the Apostle who says: the animal body is sown, the spiritual body will rise, and the human soul is now spiritual in such a way that it is nevertheless a body, then human flesh will be transferred into the dignity of the soul, when it has been made a spiritual body. And the soul, which has justly ruled the body, which has piously and justly served the Lord, which has faithfully believed or perhaps even known God, will itself also, with its flesh made equal to it, be advanced nothing in respect of the quality of its substance. And where is that saying: not he who has cleansed the eye of the flesh, but he who has cleansed the eye of the heart, will see God? For the blessed are pure of heart, since they themselves will already see God. Therefore, perhaps the body will be beatified according to its own mode, and the soul likewise according to its own mode.
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illud inmutabitur, ut spiritui per omnia ad nutum seruiat, cui contumax saepe restitit, et haec inmutabitur, ut deum uideat, quem flagrantia castae caritatis inhiauit. et quoniam apostolus spiritum, animam corpusque discreuit inquiens: ut integer spiritus uester et anima et corpus, quia post resurrectionem non animaliter uiuendum est, scilicet ubi non edendum uel bibendum, ubi non dormiendum neque coeundum est, transibit totum animale corpus in spiritale corpus, quia et anima tota transibit in spiritum, et erit totum spiritale corpus propter inhabitantem spiritum. qui utique spiritus si in hac uita concupiuit aduersus carnem et concupiscenti aduersum se carni non cessit, iure in aeternum nihil illo difficultatis sentiet, cuius difficultates caelestis auxilii uirtute superauit, nec par erit ut exaequetur domino, qui eidem cessit inuitus, et in serui statu remaneat, qui uicit uoluntarius. quocirca datur intellegi, quod sicut in hac uita animae humanae substantia incorporaliter dignitate sui anteit corpus animale, ita post resurrectionem remunerationemque anteibit corpus spiritale. omne autem quod spiritali corpore potius est, corpus ut arbitror non est: ergo iuxta huius necessarii mei tractatum, qui angelos sola esse tantum corpora decernit, humanae substantiae angelica natura erit inferior.
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That will be changed, so that it serves the spirit in all things at its nod, which it often stubbornly resisted; and this will be changed, so that it may see God, whom it yearned for with the ardor of chaste love. And since the Apostle distinguished spirit, soul, and body, saying: "that your whole spirit and soul and body," because after the resurrection one is not to live in an animal manner, that is, where there is no eating or drinking, where there is no sleeping or coition, the whole animal body will pass into a spiritual body, because the whole soul will also pass into spirit, and the whole will be a spiritual body on account of the indwelling spirit. That spirit, indeed, if in this life it lusted against the flesh and did not yield to the flesh lusting against it, will rightly feel nothing of that difficulty in eternity, whose difficulties it overcame by the power of heavenly aid; nor will it be equal so as to be matched with the Lord, to whom it yielded unwillingly, and it will remain in the state of a servant, which conquered willingly. Therefore, it is given to be understood that, just as in this life the substance of the human soul incorporeally precedes the animal body in its dignity, so after the resurrection and reward it will precede the spiritual body. But whatever is more than a spiritual body, is, as I think, not a body: therefore, according to the treatise of this necessary man of mine, who decrees that angels are only bodies, the angelic nature will be inferior to the human substance.
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certum namque diuina auctoritate retinemus sanctorum corpora, quae inmutari merebuntur in gloriam, angelicis exaequanda corporibus dicente domino: et erunt sicut angeli in caelo. si igitur angeli spiritalia tantum corpora sunt uniusque substantiae et prouehetur corpus humanum ad angelici corporis dignitatem, homo angelo qualitate corporis exaequabitur, dignitate spiritus praeeminebit. quod si, ut est utique, uidetur absurdum, duplex ergo est angelica sicuti est humana substantia: habens corpus totius facilitatis maximaeque pulchritudinis, quod hominibus cum iubetur adpareat, habens incorporeum, quo deum semper uideat iuxta illud euangelicum quo dictum est: quia angeli eorum semper uident faciem patris mei.
XIIII. NVLLATENVS SPIRITVALIA CORPOREIS OCVLIS VIDERI POSSE.
Valde autem stupeo quo modo quispiam christianus doctoris praesertim loco definiat cuilibet pulchro, cuilibet sublimi corpori, corpori tamen contemplabilem deum fore et uniuersalem uideri localiter posse, cum deum uidere hoc sit intellegere. intellectum uero localem non esse uel intellegendo cognoscimus, quia si intellectus localis est, locale erit et quod intellegitur. nihil enim locale est, quod non et ipsum locus est. at si intellectus localis et in hoc deus, quia hoc intellegitur deus, ergo localis est deus.
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For we hold as certain, by divine authority, that the bodies of the saints, which will merit to be changed into glory, are to be made equal to angelic bodies, as the Lord says: "And they will be as angels in heaven." Therefore, if angels are only spiritual bodies and of a single substance, and the human body is to be raised to the dignity of an angelic body, then man will be equal to the angel in quality of body, but will surpass him in dignity of spirit. But if this seems absurd, as indeed it does, then angelic substance, like human substance, is twofold: having a body of utmost agility and greatest beauty, which appears to men when commanded, and having an incorporeal part, by which it always sees God, according to that Gospel saying: "Because the angels always see the face of my Father."
XIV. SPIRITUAL THINGS CAN BY NO MEANS BE SEEN WITH CORPOREAL EYES.
But I am greatly amazed how any Christian, especially one in the position of a teacher, can define that God is to be contemplated by any beautiful body, by any sublime body, yet a body, and that the universal can be seen locally, when to see God is to understand. And we know by understanding that understanding is not local, because if understanding is local, then what is understood will also be local. For nothing is local which is not itself a place. But if understanding is local, and God is in this, because He is understood, then God is local.
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quod quia repugnat, intellegere nos oportet, constare hominem ex corporeo et incorporeo, utroque in melius reformando, constare angelum et corpore et spiritu praecipua inter creaturas dignitate formato. spiritus illi namque est omni spiritu creato potentior, corpus illi de potissimo omnium elemento sublimius secundum illud propheticum, ubi angelica substantia duplex sine dubitatione perhibetur, quo dictum est: qui facit angelos suos spiritus et ministros suos ignem urentem. ignem uero non esse spiritum et spiritum perinde ignem non esse manifestum est, quia non istic allegorice aliquid accipiendum est, sicut illud ubi ait dominus: ignem ueni mittere in terram, cum de sancto spiritu diceret. non enim credi fas est animas humanas ad amorem diuinum participatione angelici spiritus inflammari, quia eodem dono bonus est homo, quo bonus est angelus, et eadem dono uterque beatus est. ambo id ipsum eadem uoluntate, eodem scilicet spiritu cupiunt, ambo hoc idem incorporea capacitate percipiunt, et fit homo, angelus et deus unus spiritus iuxta apostolum dicentem: qui adhaeret domino, unus spiritus est. non autem uideo quo pacto corpus incorporeo contemperari queat, ut unus spiritus iure dicatur. si enim corpus est anima, inmutabitur ergo corporeum, ut esse cum incorporeo unum possit, atque ita ad illam rationem necessario reditur, qua. incorporeum aliquid creari potuisse dicitur.
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Since this is contradictory, we must understand that a human being consists of both corporeal and incorporeal, each to be reformed for the better, and that an angel consists of both body and spirit, formed with preeminent dignity among creatures. For that spirit is more powerful than any created spirit, and that body is more sublime than the most potent of all elements, according to that prophetic passage where the twofold substance of an angel is undoubtedly affirmed, in which it is said: "Who makes his angels spirits and his ministers a burning fire." Now it is manifest that fire is not spirit, and spirit is accordingly not fire, because nothing here is to be taken allegorically, as in that passage where the Lord says: "I will send fire upon the earth," when he spoke of the Holy Spirit. For it is not permissible to believe that human souls are inflamed with divine love through participation in the angelic spirit, since by the same gift a human being is good as an angel is good, and by the same gift each is blessed. Both desire the same thing by the same will, that is, by the same spirit; both perceive this same thing by an incorporeal capacity; and a human being, an angel, and God become one spirit, according to the Apostle saying: "He who cleaves to the Lord is one spirit." But I do not see how a body can be blended with an incorporeal so that it may rightly be called one spirit. For if the soul is a body, then the corporeal will be changed so that it can be one with the incorporeal, and thus one necessarily returns to that reasoning by which it is said that something incorporeal could have been created.
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nam si potest aliquid ex corporeo incorporeum fieri, potuit et ex nihilo creari, nisi forte dicitur incommutabilis deus ueluti corporascere, ut unum possit esse cum corpore. sed hoc perditorum quorumpiam fides habeat, quia si ut angelo uel homini adhaerere deo bonum est, non ad creaturam deteriorabitur creator incommutabilis, sed ad creatorem mutabilis creatura proficiet, unde in euangelio dominus dicit: pater, sint isti in nobis unum, sicut et nos sumus unum.
XV. QVOD CORPOREA OMNIA ADIVNCTIONE SVI MAIORA FIANT ET MVLTA QVAM PAVCA, INCORPOREA VERO OMNIA NEC AVGEANTVR IN MVLTIS, NEC MINVANTVR IN SINGVLIS.
Nec uero credi licet quorumque coniunctionem corporum unitatem trinitatis imitari aut eidem inconfusibiliter posse misceri. patet enim liquido quodlibet unum corpus paris corporis adiunctione duplicari, esse illic sursum deorsum, dextrum sinistrum, anterius atque posterius, esse illic pro modo magnitudinis longitudinem, latitudinem, altitudinem. in dei uero ipsa trinitate huius secabilitatis et localitatis partes et spatia esse non dicimus, ad cuius similitudinem unum nos esse secumque uniri nos posse dicit ipse qui fecit, sicut in apostolicis actis legimus, quod unus credentium unusque uolentium erat animus et cor unum.
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For if something can become incorporeal from corporeal, it could also have been created from nothing, unless perhaps it is said that the immutable God, as it were, becomes corporeal, so that He can be one with a body. But let this be the faith of certain lost men, because if it is good for an angel or a human to adhere to God, the immutable Creator will not be degraded to the creature, but the mutable creature will advance toward the Creator, whence in the Gospel the Lord says: "Father, let these be one in us, as we are one."
XV. THAT ALL CORPOREAL THINGS BECOME LARGER BY THE ADDITION OF THEMSELVES, AND MANY THAN FEW, BUT ALL INCORPOREAL THINGS NEITHER INCREASE IN MANY NOR DECREASE IN SINGLE.
Nor indeed may it be believed that any conjunction of bodies can imitate the unity of the Trinity or be mixed with it without confusion. For it is clearly evident that any one body is doubled by the addition of an equal body, and that there exist in it up and down, right and left, front and back, and that according to its magnitude there are length, breadth, and height. But in God's Trinity itself we do not say that there are parts and spaces of this divisibility and locality, to whose likeness He who made us says that we can be one with Him and be united with Him, as we read in the Acts of the Apostles, that there was one mind and one heart of the believers and of those who willed.
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non tamen reor multas animas ita sibi fuisse coniunctas, ut maior quaedam ex multis animabus anima fieret, quia trinitas, per quam et cum qua omnes bonae animae fiunt unum, nec in ulla ex eadem trinitate persona minor est quam in tribus, nec in tribus maior est quam in singulis. sic et animae humanae substantia ad eius imitationem, cuius imago est, nec in multis secundum aliquam molem maior est nec in singulis secundum aliquam molem minor, quia uidelicet potentiae sunt illae, non corpora. creatas autem potentias creatrix utique potentia iure supereminet eo ipso uel maxime quo creauit. nam et animam anima praestantiorem saepe et experimur et didicimus, nec tamen eandem, quam secundum potentiam praestantiorem didicimus, secundum molem, quae nulla illi est, credimus esse maiorem. illud etiam nec te arbitror diffiteri quamlibet. multas animas perfecte sapientes non plus sapere idem una anima perfecte sapiente, nec quod una omnimodis uolet anima, multas id omnimodis nolendo plus uelle, nec quod quaecumque optime meminerit, multas melius memoriae tenacitate meminisse. corpus uero et plus habet ponderis magnum quam paruum, et ualidior corporum multitudo quam paucitas, et fortius quippiam manus multae, quam singulae uel retinent uel sustinent uel propellunt. nunc consequentia disquiramus.
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Nevertheless, I do not think that many souls were so joined together that a greater soul, as it were, was made from many souls, because the Trinity, through which and with which all good souls become one, is neither less in any one person of that same Trinity than in three, nor greater in three than in each single one. Thus also the substance of the human soul, in imitation of that whose image it is, is neither greater in many according to any bulk nor lesser in single individuals according to any bulk, because those are powers, not bodies. Created powers, however, the creative power rightly surpasses by that very fact and especially by the fact that it created. For we often both experience and have learned that one soul is more excellent than another, yet we do not believe that the one which we have learned is more excellent in power is greater in bulk, which it does not possess. I also think you would not deny that any many souls perfectly wise do not know more than one soul perfectly wise, nor that what one soul wills in every way, many souls by not willing in every way will more, nor that whatever one soul remembers best, many souls remember with better tenacity of memory. A body, however, has more weight when large than when small, and a multitude of bodies is stronger than a few, and many hands hold, sustain, or push something more forcefully than single hands. Now let us examine what follows.
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XVI. QVOD ANIMAE INCORPOREAE SINT.
Habent, inquis, animae secundum se corpus quo subsistunt, licet multum et inconparabiliter tenuius quam nostra sunt corpora. accipiatur ita, si ita est. illud respondeas uelim, quia est iste qui dicit: habet anima corpus inconparabiliter tenuius, quam nostra sunt corpora? si animae uerba ista sunt, quod corpus esse suum dicit, quod ipsa est, aut istud quod sentificat uegetatque carnale ? ipsa enim dicit anima: tenuius est corpus animae, quam corpus meum. quod est corpus quod suum dicat anima, nisi illud quod ipsa est, si corpus est anima? aut igitur anima corpus est nec recte corpus istud carneum suum dicit, quia potius illud est suum quod ipsa est, aut si istud corpus animae corpus est, ipsa, at datur intellegi, non est corpus. post hinc itidem consultori suo sic loquitur : obicis mihi ideo animam non esse corpoream, quia nec localis sit nec qualitate aut quantitate subsistat : quantitatti periculi sit ita credere, in consequentibus demonstrabimus. nunc uero in hoc tractatus nostri statu habita discussione pendebit, ut si nec localis sit nec quantitati subiaceat, esse eam indubie incorpoream credas. si uero eam demonstrauerimus quantitate determinari locoue concludi, consequenter eam etiam corpore contineri nec ipse iam dubites.
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CHAPTER 16: THAT SOULS ARE INCORPOREAL.
“Souls,” you say, “have in themselves a body by which they subsist, although much and incomparably thinner than our bodies are.” Let it be accepted as such, if it is so. I would like you to answer this: who is it that says: “The soul has a body incomparably thinner than our bodies are”? If these are the words of the soul, what body does it call its own—that which it itself is, or that which it sensitizes and animates, the fleshly one? For the soul itself says: “The body of the soul is thinner than my body.” What body does the soul call its own, unless it is that which it itself is, if the soul is a body? Therefore, either the soul is a body and does not rightly call that fleshly body its own, because rather that which it itself is is its own; or, if that body is the body of the soul, then it is given to be understood that the soul itself is not a body. After this, it likewise speaks thus to its inquirer: “You object to me that the soul is not corporeal because it is neither local nor subsists by quality or quantity: that it is dangerous to believe so, we will demonstrate in what follows. Now, in this state of our treatise, after discussion, it will hang in the balance, so that if it is neither local nor subject to quantity, you may believe it to be undoubtedly incorporeal. But if we demonstrate that it is determined by quantity or confined by place, then consequently you yourself will no longer doubt that it is also contained by a body.
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statum nempe tractatus tui in articuli istius condicione posuisti, ut si localis et quantitati subiacens anima probari possit, consequenter etiam corporea crederetur, quam tamen paulo post intra pectoris officinam uarietates cogitationum suarum fingere et motus agitare pronuntias.
XVII. DE VITA QVOD ANIMA INLOCALITER VIVIFICET CORPVS.
Ac primum quaeso respondeas, ipsa anima quo in loco sit corporis: in toto est an in parte ? si in parte est, quem ad modum uniuersum ubique corpus mouet atque sentificat? si in toto est, quo modo intra solius pectoris officinam cogitationes suas fingit et motus exercet? an forsitan non solum in pectore est, sed etiam in capite, nec in capite tantum, sed in planta atque in ossibus? et ubicumque animam localiter esse credis, illic etiam localiter sapere et localiter cogitare fateberis, et quoniam, si corporea est, eatenus inest corpori, ut, sieut aqua utrem, minore sui parte minores partes eius inpleat et maiore maiores, necessario sequitur, ut maior illi cogitatio in pectore sit et minor in digito. atque ita quotam partem quisque corporis uiuentis absciderit, totam quoque partem animae uege* tantis abscidit, ae per hoc non tanta erit in anima utique debili uel cogitandi uis uel potentia reminiscendi.
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CHAPTER 17: ON LIFE, THAT THE SOUL VIVIFIES THE BODY NON-LOCALLY.
And first, I ask you to answer: in what place of the body is the soul itself? Is it in the whole or in a part? If it is in a part, how does it move and sensitize the entire body everywhere? If it is in the whole, how does it form its thoughts and exercise its motions within the workshop of the breast alone? Or perhaps it is not only in the breast, but also in the head, nor only in the head, but in the foot and in the bones? And wherever you believe the soul to be locally, there you will also admit that it locally knows and locally thinks; and since, if it is corporeal, it is present in the body in such a way that, just as water fills a wineskin, it fills its smaller parts with a smaller part of itself and its larger parts with a larger, it necessarily follows that its thought is greater in the breast and smaller in the finger. And thus, whatever part of a living body someone cuts off, he also cuts off an equal part of the soul that animates it, and by this the power of thinking or the capacity of remembering in the soul, now certainly weakened, will not be as great.
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aerem namque, ex quo ant cui similem animam esse pronuntias, diuiduum secabilemque nemo dubitat nam et cum flamus et renamus, particulas eius haurimus et reddimus, quas in pastum totius corporis uenae illae capiunt, quas Graeci uocant, per quas idem aer in temperamentum trium elementorum pulmonum quoque indefessa agitatione dispergitur. sed si haustus aer iuxta sententiam tuam ad animae pertinet pastum, quia scilicet res aeria conuenienter alitur aere, ergo sicut supra dictum est cum corpore quod uegetat recipit sectionem. uis certe memoriae ad totam sine quaestione pertinet animam. omne porro corpus quamlibet magnum, quamlibet paruum secari profecto potest, quod idcirco illi accidit, quia partibus constat. nam quidquid partem habet, potest utique diuidi, quia pars potest a parte diuelli. quapropter si corpus est anima, recipit utique sectionem: si recipit sectionem, recipit inminutionem: si inminutionem recipit, perdita quisque uiui corporis parte animae quoque perdit partem. cum parte uero animae perit pars memoriae, anima ergo, cuius inminuta substantia est, minus debet utique meminisse. ac per hoc si localis est anima, multimoda. potest sectione comminui et frequentia comminutionis aboleri.
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For air, from which and to which you declare the soul to be similar, no one doubts that it is divisible and separable; for both when we breathe in and when we breathe out, we draw in and give back particles of it, which those veins that the Greeks call *arteriae* take up for the nourishment of the whole body, through which the same air is dispersed for the tempering of the three elements by the tireless motion of the lungs as well. But if, according to your opinion, the air that is drawn in pertains to the nourishment of the soul, because, namely, an aerial thing is suitably nourished by air, then, as was said above, it undergoes division together with the body which it animates. The power of memory certainly pertains to the whole soul without question. Moreover, every body, however large or however small, can certainly be cut, which happens to it because it consists of parts. For whatever has a part can indeed be divided, because a part can be separated from a part. Therefore, if the soul is a body, it certainly undergoes division; if it undergoes division, it undergoes diminution; if it undergoes diminution, when any part of the living body is lost, a part of the soul is also lost. But with a part of the soul, a part of memory perishes. Therefore the soul, whose substance has been diminished, must certainly remember less. And thus, if the soul is local, it can be fragmented by manifold division and destroyed by repeated fragmentation.
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sed quia istud mens sana, ne dicam docta, non recipit, ut inlocalitas animae, quantum per nos sub ope diuina proferri potuerit, magis adpareat, de motibus disseramus, quia dubium non erit, sicut corpus est quod mouetur localiter ita non esse corpus quod localiter. non mouetur.
XVIII. TRES ESSE MOTVS.
Tres ergo esse motus, stabilem, inlocalem localemque iam notum est. stabilis motus dei est, inlocalis animae, localis corporis. stabilis motus est quod deus creaturam non semper fecit, sed tamen eandem non noua uoluntate tunc creare uoluit cum creauit, quia semper tunc uoluit creare cum fecit. tunc temporis significatio est, semper non ad tempus pertinet. tunc ergo istud ad principium temporis pertinet, non ad tempus, quia temporaneum motum stabilitas sempiternae uoluntatis includit, ac per hoc semper tunc uelle stabilis motus est. hic oportet accipias nihil moueri posse nisi ab inmoto, atque ut id doceamus exemplo, digitum certe nisi stante manu mouere non possumus, . motus autem brachii ab humeri stabilitate est. et ut non diutius inmoremur, in gradiendo utique pes unus figendus est, ut alter promoueri queat. tene istud cum paulisper animi motum a corporis motu discernimus. nam sicut, ut supra dictum est, deus stabiliter mouetur, sic anima temporaliter.
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but because a sound mind, not to say a learned one, does not accept that the soul is non-local, in order that it may become more apparent, as far as we are able to set it forth with divine aid, let us discuss motions, since there will be no doubt that just as a body is that which is moved locally, so that which is not moved locally is not a body.
XVIII. THERE ARE THREE MOTIONS.
Three motions, then, are known: stable, non-local, and local. Stable motion is of God, non-local of the soul, local of the body. Stable motion is that God did not always make creation, but nevertheless did not then wish to create it by a new will when he created it, because he always then wished to create when he made it. "Then" is a designation of time; "always" does not pertain to time. "Then," therefore, pertains to the beginning of time, not to time, because the stability of the eternal will encloses temporal motion, and through this, always then to will is stable motion. Here you must grasp that nothing can be moved except by an unmoved mover, and to teach this by example, we certainly cannot move a finger unless the hand is still, and the motion of the arm is from the stability of the shoulder. And not to dwell longer, in walking, one foot must be planted so that the other can be advanced. Hold this when we distinguish the motion of the mind from the motion of the body. For just as, as was said above, God is moved stably, so the soul is moved temporally.
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temporale est autem, quod paulo ante superba, nunc humilis, prius laeta, nunc tristis, dilexit ante, nunc odit, prius aliquid oblita, nunc meminit. huius modi autem motibus animae non communicat corpus, quibus inmoto nihilominus corpore mouetur, unde datur intellegi animam per tempus inlocaliter moueri atque ab eadem corpus et temporaliter et localiter moueri, eandem uero a corpore localiter non moueri.
Atque ut hoc ipsum, si quo modo queam, uerbis planum faciam, adtentiorem mihi lectorem opus est. ecce ad aliquid scribendum uel fabrefaciendum ut manus moueatur animae nutus intenditur. anima conspicatur incorporeas inlocaliter formas, quibus indissociabiliter iuncta siue superiecta subie* ctis sine subiecta superiectis et membrum tota monet et formarum ueritatem tota conspicit et totum praeter hoc corpus ubique tota sentificat. cum ergo, ut dictum est, aeternis illis hisdemque semper formis intenta ad exempla earundem formarum tetragonum siue hexagonum uel rotundum corporeum per corpus efficere molitur, certe si aliorsum mentem oculum scilicet suum uerterit, ut puta uolens quadrum facere rotundum cogitet aut uolens scribere Pauli nomen cogitet nomen Simonis: nonne protinus ad id exprimendum siue figurandum agitur motus membri, ad quod cogitandum transiit nutus animi?
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But that is temporal which a little while ago was proud, now humble, previously joyful, now sad, loved before, now hates, formerly forgot something, now remembers. The body does not share in motions of this kind of the soul, by which it is moved while the body nevertheless remains unmoved, whence it is given to understand that the soul is moved non-locally through time, and that by the same soul the body is moved both temporally and locally, but that the same soul is not moved locally by the body.
And so that I may make this very thing plain in words, if I can in any way, I need a more attentive reader from myself. Behold: when the hand is to be moved for writing or fashioning something, the nod of the soul is directed. The soul contemplates incorporeal forms non-locally, to which it is inseparably joined, whether placed over subjects or placed under those placed over, and it moves the whole limb, and it contemplates the truth of the forms as a whole, and it makes the whole body, beyond this, everywhere sentient as a whole. Therefore, when, as has been said, intent upon those eternal and always the same forms, it strives to produce through the body a corporeal tetragon or hexagon or round thing according to the examples of those same forms, certainly if it has turned its mind, that is, its eye, elsewhere—for example, wishing to make a square, it thinks of a round thing, or wishing to write the name Paul, it thinks of the name Simon—does not the motion of the limb immediately be driven to express or shape that which the nod of the mind has passed over to think?
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stabit ergo anima in contemplatione formarum ut moueat corpus in figuratione formabilium, quae formarum ueritas nisi rationali conspicabilis non est. stat enim omnis anima in adpetitu rationalis et in consilio. non autem credibile est quod, cum nutu animae scriptoris manus ad scribendum mouetur, anima quoque manus agitatione moueatur, quae nisi literarum formas inmobiliter atque inlocaliter adspiceret, easdem motu digitorum localiter formare non posset.
Sed forsitan diois: illa pars animae, quae in scribentis digitis est mouetur, et reliqua non mouetur. hoc illi porro contendunt qui animam partilem putant, quamquam indissociabili consequentia, si corporea foret, partilis foret, quia et partile quod corporeum et corporeum omne quod partile. inquiramus igitur disicine in partes animus queat, ut moueri parte sui pro corporis parte possit necne uideamus. ac primum illud excutiendae quaestionis huius potissimumque sit nobis, ut, si habet partes animus, secari possit in partes. aduertamus ergo animo, quod nullum corpus aut tangi simul totum aut simul tangere totum potest, et anima in suis quibusque motibus uel actibus tota simul est. nam, ut supra disputauimus, omne corpus quamlibet maximum quamlibet minimum habet longitudinem latitudinem et altitudinem. subiacet autem pro numero partium sex utique motibus.
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The soul, therefore, will stand in the contemplation of forms so that it may move the body in the figuration of things capable of being formed, which truth of forms is not visible except to the rational soul. For every soul stands in the appetite for the rational and in deliberation. But it is not credible that, when by the nod of the soul of a writer the hand is moved to write, the soul is also moved by the agitation of the hand, which, unless it beheld the forms of letters immovably and without location, could not form the same letters locally by the movement of the fingers.
But perhaps you say: that part of the soul which is in the fingers of the writer is moved, and the rest is not moved. This, moreover, is what those contend who think the soul is divisible, although by an inseparable consequence, if it were corporeal, it would be divisible, because that which is divisible is corporeal and everything corporeal is divisible. Let us therefore inquire whether the mind can be divided into parts, so that it can be moved by a part of itself for a part of the body, or not, and let us see. And first, for the shaking out of this question, it should be especially important for us that, if the mind has parts, it can be cut into parts. Let us therefore attend to the mind, that no body can either be touched as a whole at once or touch a whole at once, and the soul in each of its motions or acts is wholly present at once. For, as we argued above, every body, however large or however small, has length, breadth, and height. It is subject, moreover, according to the number of its parts, to six motions certainly.
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mouetur autem omne corpus sursum deorsum, in dextrum ac sinistrum, priorsus et retrorsus. mouetur autem etiam motu septimo, sicut est rotae et sphaeroidis, qui perfectus motus ad aeternitatis indicium a se et per se et in se peragitur. omne igitur corpus, ut diximus, sex partes habens, sex motibus subiacens habet utique pro crassitudine sui aliquid etiam medium. exteriora namque in corporibus omnino nulla essent, si interna quoque non essent. quodlibet ergo corpus etiamsi clausum manu in exterioribus suis per totum tangatur, in interioribus certe non tangitur. hinc patet omne corpus totum simul tangi non posse, nec uno in loco esse quamlibet minimum totum posse, ut puta granum papaueris aut quotalibet pars grani ipsius quod illic non habet inferiora sua ubi superiora, nec illic dextra ubi sinistra, nec anteriora illic ubi posteriora certum est. anima uero et tota per cor pus uidet et tota uisorum recolit et tota audit et tota sonorum reminiscitur et tota odoratur et tota odorum meminit et tota per linguam atque, ut uolunt alii, per palatum sapores sentit eosdemque discernit et tota tangit lenia quaeque et aspera, tota probat atque inprobat.
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Every body is moved upward and downward, to the right and left, forward and backward. A body is also moved by a seventh motion, such as that of a wheel or a sphere, which perfect motion is performed from itself, through itself, and in itself as an indication of eternity. Therefore, every body, as we have said, having six parts and being subject to six motions, also has, by virtue of its own thickness, something intermediate. For the outer parts of bodies would be entirely nonexistent if the inner parts were also nonexistent. Consequently, any body, even if it is grasped in the hand and touched throughout its outer parts, is certainly not touched in its inner parts. From this it is clear that every body cannot be touched all at once as a whole, nor can any smallest body, such as a poppy seed or any part of that seed, be entirely in one place, since it certainly does not have its lower parts where it has its upper parts, nor its right parts where its left, nor its front parts where its back. The soul, however, sees entirely through the body and entirely recollects what is seen, and entirely hears and entirely remembers sounds, and entirely smells and entirely remembers odors, and entirely perceives tastes through the tongue and, as others hold, through the palate, and distinguishes them, and entirely touches smooth and rough things, and entirely approves and disapproves.
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mirum autem uidetur iuxta necessitatem localitatis temporum, sicut supra disserui, quod anima totum corpus tota uegetat et toto nihilominus uiuente corpore totoque sentiente per minimam partem corporis, quod est uisus, tota simul accipit formas et per eiusdem corporis partem, quod est auditus, tota simul accipit uoces et per exiguum narium membrum sentit tota fraglantias et per gustandi sensum tota diiudicat saporum differentias et calida uel frigida summo tantum digiti tota discernit. si ergo localiter tota adest oculo ut uideat, quo modo omnibus simul sensibus tota non deest, ut ubique tota sentiat et singulas corporis partes non partibus suis, sed tota se uegetet et per diuersum simul tota sentificet? cum ergo haec animam localiter actitare persuaseris, tunc localem mihi eandem uel partilem persuadebis. et tamen haec adhuc omnia homini belluaeque communia sunt.
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It seems remarkable, however, in view of the necessity of place and time, as I discussed above, that the soul entirely animates the whole body, and while the whole body is alive and the whole body is sentient, it receives forms all at once through the smallest part of the body, which is sight, and receives voices all at once through that same part of the body, which is hearing, and perceives fragrances all at once through the tiny member of the nostrils, and distinguishes differences of tastes all at once through the sense of taste, and discerns hot and cold all at once through the mere tip of a finger. Therefore, if it is locally present in its entirety at the eye in order to see, how is it that it is not absent in its entirety from all the senses at once, so that it feels everywhere in its entirety and animates each individual part of the body not by its parts but by its entire self, and simultaneously imparts sensation through diverse parts? Therefore, if you persuade yourself that the soul acts locally in these matters, then you will persuade me that it is either local or divisible. And yet all these things are still common to man and beast.
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XVIIII. DE ANIMA QVIA QVANTITATI NON SVBIACET.
Igitur si inlocalitas animae uel aliquatenus adparuit, cum nondum de principali, hoc est de rationali nostro disputauerim, inin quoquo utiqueutique incorporalitasincorporalitas atqueatque inlocalitasinlocalitas clariusclarius |adparuit : quatenus anima nec quantitati subiacet disseramus, quamlibet, ubi localitas non est, quantitas esse non possit, quia sibi ita mutuo haec eadem nexa sunt, ut aut utrumque in aliquo esse possit aut neutrum. ex illis Aristotelicis categoriis nulli prorsus subiacet essentia diuina, rursus anima humana non omnibus subiacet, porro corpus quodlibet subiacet omnibus. nam de deo non dicimus qualis est, quia non potest conparari quasi ad aliud, ut dicatur: talis est. nec dicimus quantus est, quia non mole magnus est, nec quid habet, quia nihil non habet, nec quo modo est, quia ipse modus est, nec habitum eius inquirimus, quia continet omnia, nec locum, quia non nisi corpus in loco est, nec tempus, quia sempiternitas est, nec actum, quoniam quietus agit, nec passionem, quia non patitur. iam decima, immo prima est ipsa substantia, de qua haec praedicamenta texuntur.
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CHAPTER 19. THAT THE SOUL IS NOT SUBJECT TO QUANTITY.
Therefore, if the soul’s lack of place has appeared to some extent, even though I have not yet argued about the principal part, that is, about our rational soul, let us discuss how far the soul is not subject to quantity, since, wherever there is no place, quantity cannot exist, because these two are so mutually bound together that either both can exist in something or neither. Of those Aristotelian categories, the divine essence is subject to none at all; again, the human soul is not subject to all; moreover, any body whatsoever is subject to all. For concerning God we do not say what quality he has, because he cannot be compared as if to something else, so that it might be said: he is such. Nor do we say how great he is, because he is not great by bulk; nor what he has, because he lacks nothing; nor in what state he is, because he himself is the state; nor do we inquire about his condition, because he contains all things; nor about place, because only a body is in a place; nor about time, because he is eternity; nor about action, because he acts while at rest; nor about passion, because he does not suffer. The tenth, or rather the first, is substance itself, from which these categories are woven.
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XX. QVOD ANIMA QVALITATEM RECIPIAT.
Humana uero anima sicut quantitatem non recipit, ita subiacet qualitati. nam si de quopiam quale sit corpus eius inquirimus, sic uidelicet qualitas corporis indicatur: flauus est ille, coloratus est, pallet ille uel niger est. sin uero de anima consulamus, ita nobis qualitas eius ostenditur: superba est, humilis est, iracunda, tranquilla est, ualde meminit aut celeriter obliuiscitur. quantitas itidem corporis si quaeratur, iure nobis dicitur: illius in pedes quinque protenditur longitudo, latus est duobus itidem pedibus, habet in crasso tantundem. num quantitas animae istis signatur indieiis, aut in illa longum uel latum uel spissum aliquid inuenitur? quod si ita est, tanto quisque maioris erit animae, quanto corporis corporis, nec umquam perexigui corporis hominem magnanimem uere diceremus, cum ingentis corpulentiae pusillanimes plerumque dicamus. sicut dicimus magnanimus Moyses', cum rubri maris uias intrepidus ductor intrauit, et populi animi populus), qui hoc ipsum facillimum factum fore deo promittente non credidit. ecce populi totius animo unius hominis animum sine ambiguitate maiorem uidelicet uirtute, non mole, quoniam si mole, maior moles esset uel duarum animarum quam unius, non dico multarum.
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CHAPTER 20. THAT THE SOUL RECEIVES QUALITY.
The human soul, just as it does not receive quantity, so it is subject to quality. For if we inquire about someone what his body is like, the quality of the body is indicated thus: he is fair, he is ruddy, he is pale, or he is dark. But if we consult about the soul, its quality is shown to us thus: it is proud, it is humble, it is wrathful, it is calm, it remembers very well or quickly forgets. Likewise, if the quantity of the body is sought, we are rightly told: his length extends to five feet, he is two feet wide, he has the same in thickness. Is the quantity of the soul marked by these indicators, or is anything long or wide or thick found in it? But if this is so, then each person will have a greater soul the greater his body is, and we would never truly call a man of very small body great-souled, since we often call men of huge bulk pusillanimous. Just as we say 'great-souled Moses', when as an undaunted leader he entered the paths of the Red Sea, and the spirit of the people (the people's soul), who did not believe that this very thing would be an easy deed, with God promising it. Behold, the soul of an entire people compared to the soul of one man is without doubt greater, namely in virtue, not in bulk, since if by bulk, the bulk of two souls would be greater than that of one, not to mention many.
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est ergo in anima qualitas, sed quantitas non est, quoniam quod adfectuum mutabilitati subiacet qualitatem recipit, quod uero non habet molem, non habet quantitatem. hinc est quod emoriens omne corpus animatum non amittit animam, sed dimittit, quia non egreditur quod non includitur, nec amittitur quod non tenetur. si enim tenetur, non amittitur, et si non amitteretur, non moreretur, unde non poetice, sed philosophice Papinius ait:s ...odi artus fragilemque hunc corporis usum. desertorem animi. quod ut magis pateat, hoc ipsum diligentius uentilemus atque ab extremo uiuentium genere ad rationalem quoque uitam ordinatim gradatimque ueniamus, ut tria illa, memoriam consilium uoluntatem, quibus humanae animae confit unitas, uidere possimus, quamlibet rationali atque inrationali meminisse commune sit.
XXI. QVOD MEMORIA RATIONALI ET INRATIONALI ANIMAE COMMVNIS SIT ET OMNIS CREATVRA SIT HOMO.
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Therefore, quality exists in the soul, but quantity does not, because that which is subject to the mutability of affections receives quality, but that which has no bulk has no quantity. Hence it is that every animate body when dying does not lose the soul, but dismisses it, because what is not enclosed does not depart, nor is what is not held lost. For if it were held, it would not be lost, and if it were not lost, it would not die. Hence, not poetically but philosophically, Papinius says: "...I hate the limbs and this fragile use of the body, the deserter of the mind." So that this may become clearer, let us examine it more diligently and come from the lowest kind of living beings to rational life also in an orderly and gradual manner, so that we may be able to see those three things—memory, deliberation, will—by which the unity of the human soul is constituted, although remembering is common to both the rational and the irrational soul.
CHAPTER 21. THAT MEMORY IS COMMON TO THE RATIONAL AND IRRATIONAL SOUL, AND THAT EVERY CREATURE IS MAN.
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Vnde non absque uero dicitur in memoria esse hominis pecudisque confinium. nam et nidos ciconiae atque hirundines post annum reuisunt, et equi stabula repetunt, et canes domi- ' nos recognoscunt. sed quoniam animae belluarum etsi imagines locorum naturaliter retinent, ipsius tamen substantiae suae scientiam non habent, in recordatione corporalium rerum, quas per corporis sensus hauserunt, necessario remanent et ratiocinandi non habentes oculum, non dicam supra se aliquid, sed se ipsas uidere non possunt. gratias ergo, si non quantas debet, at quantas potest, creatori suo totus homo referat, qui illi ineffabilis benignitatis largitate essentiam cum lapidibus, uitam seminalem cum herbis et arboribus, uitam sensualem eandemque animalem cum pecudibus, uitam rationalem cum angelis dedit. igitur ut herbarum quoque et fruticum uitam incorpoream esse pateat eandemque non amitti a corpore, sed dimitti, quaero a te herbas et arbusta utrumne neges uiuere, an forsan dicas his ipsis uiuentibus aliquibus ut uiuant animas inesse. sed animata si essent, motu proprio non carerent, quia sunt quae mouentur motu non proprio. sentirent etiam uulnus inflictum. sed haec talibus non inesse uel de ossuum sectione et capillorum atque unguium praecisione cognoscimus, quae sine ullo sensu doloris abscidimus. est ergo etiam ibi uita, ubi non est anima.
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Hence it is not without truth that a boundary between man and beast is said to exist in memory. For storks and swallows revisit their nests after a year, and horses return to their stables, and dogs recognize their masters. But because the souls of beasts, even though they naturally retain images of places, yet have no knowledge of their own substance, they necessarily remain in the recollection of corporeal things, which they have drawn in through the senses of the body, and, having no eye for reasoning, they cannot see—I will not say anything above themselves—but even themselves. Therefore, let the whole man render thanks to his Creator, if not as much as he ought, at least as much as he can, who, by the bounty of ineffable kindness, gave him essence in common with stones, seminal life with herbs and trees, sentient and likewise animal life with beasts, and rational life with angels. Therefore, that the life of herbs and shrubs may also be shown to be incorporeal and not to be lost by the body but to be dismissed, I ask you whether you deny that herbs and shrubs live, or perhaps you say that in these living things themselves there are souls by which they live. But if they were animate, they would not lack their own motion, because there are things that are moved by a motion not their own. They would also feel a wound inflicted. But we know that such things are not present in them from the cutting of bones and the cutting off of hair and nails, which we cut off without any sensation of pain. Therefore, there is life even there where there is no soul.
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Adspice nunc ad conficiendam hanc ipsam arboris uitam omnium elementorum particulatim semina conuenisse. est illi uidelicet terra in crassitudine, aqua in humore, aer in progressione, ignis in germine. si autem de aere est anima aut aeri similis, ut tu pronuntias, ergo arborem non negabis animatam, quia perspicuum est aeri similem illi inesse naturam. inferiora nempe rato rerum ordine a superioribus adficiuntur: transacto scilicet frigore brumali per conuersionem caeli recursu siderum calor superne ueniens aerem sibi et loco et natura proximum prius adficit. qui quoniam tanto gradu igni cedit, quanto ipse aquis eminet, per radices arborum uel quorumpiam germinum de terrae intimis aquas adtrahit eo quod ignis elementum omnia naturaliter rapiens tepefactum aerem ad se cogit, perque arboris medullam sicut ipse haurit i l aerem, sic aer aquam, sic aqua terram. unde est quod etiam nos per fistulam uel cuiusce modi tibiam adtracto aere aquas indifficulter haurimus, et e puteorum profundis artificiose conpacto machinamento quodam sursum uersus unda. grauior ob naturam cogitur et aeris adminiculo in angustos tubulorum meatus ui conpulsa labrum tenus supra summum putei expressa prolabitur. haec ergo dissonantia contrariorum sibi corporum, ut quodlibet uiuens corpus exsistat, in quandam concinentiam cogitur nutu creatoris.
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Now look at how, to produce this very life of a tree, the seeds of all the elements have come together individually. It has, evidently, earth in its density, water in its moisture, air in its growth, fire in its sprouting. But if the soul is from air or like air, as you declare, then you will not deny that a tree is animate, because it is clear that a nature like air is present in it. Lower things, indeed, in the rational order of things, are affected by higher ones: after the winter cold has passed, through the turning of the sky and the return of the stars, heat coming from above first affects the air, which is nearest to it both in place and nature. And since air yields to fire by as great a degree as it itself stands above water, it draws water from the depths of the earth through the roots of trees or of any shoots, because the element of fire, naturally seizing everything, drives the warmed air toward itself, and through the pith of the tree, just as it itself draws in the air, so the air draws water, and so the water draws earth. Hence it is that we also, through a pipe or a reed of any kind, by drawing in air, easily draw up water, and from the depths of wells, by means of some ingeniously assembled device, water, heavier by nature, is forced upward and, with the help of air, driven by force into the narrow channels of tubes, is pressed out as far as the lip above the top of the well and flows forth. This dissonance of bodies contrary to one another, so that any living body exists, is compelled into a certain harmony by the will of the Creator.
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ex his autem elementis quattuor, quae moderate musiceque in arboris uita sibi concinunt, si quid contra mensuram uel superfuit forte uel defuit, aegrescit arbor ipsa primum, dehinc emoritur ueluti uicta languore. cernis istic dissonantibus ab unitatis concinentia corporis partibus uitam potius a corpore deseri, quam corpus a uita dimitti. constat igitur omnem uitam nec localiter abscedere a corpore nec in corpore uelut in loco esse nec localiter corpori accedere.
Hic si causalium rationum secreta rimare, animaduertas licet defore fixis uiuentibus animam, sed non defore incorpoream uitam. atque ut unum aliquod ex omni seminum genere deligamus, granum certe tritici quantae sit magnitudinis scimus eiusdemque capacitate si admodum molem metimur. cuius si quid internum corporeum uidere uelimus, scisso eodem nihil . nisi tantum candentis farris adspicimus, quantum breuis capacitas tenuissimae cutis includit. ecce tibi in spatio corporali summam grani triticei. da tu nunc in hoc eodem granulo corporaliter mihi tumores germinum, herbarum uirentia, calamos stipularum, spicarum hispida, lenia palearum, pinguia frugum atque ex his indefessim multiplicandorum semina seminum, quae omnia in illo sunt granulo causalibus reposita secretis.
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Now from these four elements, which harmonize moderately and musically in the life of a tree, if anything beyond measure has either been in excess or deficiency, the tree itself first sickens, then dies off as if overcome by languor. You see here that from the parts of the body dissonant with the harmony of unity, life rather departs from the body than the body is dismissed by life. It is therefore established that every life neither locally withdraws from the body, nor is in the body as if in a place, nor approaches the body locally.
Here, if you examine the secrets of causal principles, you may observe that although the soul is absent from fixed living beings, incorporeal life is not absent. And to select one particular thing from every kind of seed, we certainly know how great the size of a grain of wheat is, and we measure its bulk by the same capacity. If we wish to see any internal corporeal part of it, by splitting it open we behold nothing except as much gleaming flour as the brief capacity of the thinnest husk contains. Behold for you in a corporeal space the utmost of a wheat grain. Now give me corporeally in this same grain the swellings of shoots, the greenness of grasses, the stalks of straw, the bristly ears, the smooth chaff, the rich fruits, and from these the tirelessly multiplied seeds of seeds, all of which are stored in that grain by causal secrets.
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nunc igitur aut cuncta quae de seminibus prodeunt intra eadem semina corporaliter ostende aut herbarum quoque uitam incorpoream confitere et pronuntia, si placet, corpoream hominis animam et corpoream fruticis uitam. quod quia nemo hominum incolumi potest ferre iudicio, transeamus ad animata uiuentia, quae non solum uiuunt, sed etiam sentiunt.
Est ergo in pecude corruptibile corpus et mortalis anima, quae uitam corporis nec anticipat nec posticipat. uides ergo. uitae seminali, quam in herbis arbustisque repperimus, in corpore pecudis per adpetitus animae sensum motumque tribui, sic tamen, si ipsum corpus conuenienter elementis analogice concinentibus probe ualeat, ut nutibus animae consentaneo motionis concordet obsequio. quo modo autem fit ut anima eodem nutu sanum infirmumque membrum dispariliter moueat? ecce ille laeuae manus uigore ualet, usum dexterae ictu ut adsolet humoris amisit: manus reliquo adhaerens corpori, etsi non in eodem uigore, in eadem permanet specie, nec tamen seruit nutibus animae. quid dicemus, pulsa exinde localiter cessit anima? et quo abiit, quo inde discessit? sed forte ad reliquam partem sui se contulit: sed iam totum corpus inplebat anima, et potest adici pleno quippiam quin superfluat ? ergo fortassis exhalandum est aliquid animae uel eructuandum aut quoquo modo digerendum eo quod non inte- ' grum corpus non integram capiat animam.
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Now, therefore, either show corporally all things that come forth from seeds within those same seeds, or also confess the incorporeal life of plants and declare, if you please, the corporeal soul of man and the corporeal life of a shrub. Since no one of sound judgment can bear this, let us pass to animate living beings, which not only live but also feel.
There is, therefore, in a beast a corruptible body and a mortal soul, which neither anticipates nor outlasts the life of the body. You see, then, that the seminal life which we find in herbs and shrubs is, in the body of a beast, granted sense and motion through the appetites of the soul, yet only if the body itself, with its elements harmoniously and analogically concordant, is properly sound, so that it accords with the soul's commands in obedient motion. But how does it happen that the soul moves a healthy and a diseased member disparately by the same command? Behold, that one has vigor in the left hand, but has lost the use of the right hand from a stroke of fluid, as often happens: the hand, adhering to the rest of the body, even if not in the same vigor, remains in the same form, yet does not serve the soul's commands. What shall we say—has the soul, driven out, locally withdrawn? And where has it gone, where has it departed? But perhaps it has betaken itself to the remaining part of itself: but the soul already filled the whole body, and can anything be added to a full thing without overflowing? Therefore, perhaps something of the soul must be breathed out or belched forth or in some way discharged, because a not-whole body does not receive a not-whole soul.
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haec certe absque. ambiguo consequi necesse est, si corpus est anima. quod quoniam fieri nequaquam potest, illud potius intuere quod non anima imperandi uim perdidit, sed uires seruiendi manus amisit. illo enim ut puta sanguinis inpetu coniuentium elementorum harmonia turbata corpori adimitur seruiendi possibilitas, et animo dominandi accidit difficultas et incipit esse oneri quod erat usui. non tamen anima mouendi uim perdidit, sed membrum conuenienter se necessariae motioni non praebuit, et in quolibet oculis capto, quantum ad animam spectat, remanet uis uidendi corporalia per corpus, sed organi membra deficiunt, quibus potentias suas exserat ad sentienda corporea. sicut ergo ratione perspicua claret liquido non animam membro debili localiter pulsam, sed ab animae intentione uiuaci membrum languore torpens uelut quadam mortis uicinia dissidere: ita cum animalis cuiuspiam corpus dissonantia sui dissederit, recurrentibus ad regiones suas elementorum particulis anima non habens quo intentiones suas explicet pecudis deperit, humana requiescit ab his tamen tantum motibus, quibus corpus mouebat per loca ipsa per tempus inlocaliter mota.
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These things must certainly follow without ambiguity, if the soul is a body. Since this can by no means happen, consider rather this: that the soul has not lost its power of commanding, but the limbs have lost their capacity for serving. For when, by the rush of blood, as it were, the harmony of the cooperating elements is disturbed, the possibility of serving is taken away from the body, and difficulty in ruling befalls the mind, and what was useful begins to be a burden. Yet the soul has not lost its power of moving, but the member has not suitably presented itself for the necessary motion; and in any person deprived of sight, as far as the soul is concerned, the power of seeing corporeal things through the body remains, but the organs of the member fail, through which it might exert its powers for perceiving corporeal things. Therefore, just as it is clearly evident by plain reason that it is not the soul that is locally driven from a weak member, but that the member, sluggish with languor, like a certain nearness of death, dissents from the soul's lively intention, so, when the body of some animal has dissented by its own disharmony, the particles of the elements returning to their own regions, the soul, not having where to unfold its intentions, perishes in the case of a beast, and in the human case rests from those motions only by which it moved the body through places, itself moved in a non-local manner through time.
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Non se nunc aliqua ueluti corpuscula oculis mentis obiectent, ut animas positis corporibus quaedam loca aeris aut cuiuslibet elementi occupare credamus. intellectum tuum, si potes, intellege, cui soli cum angelo haec uidere concessum est. num quippiam in intellectu tuo longum, latum aut altum uides? num splendor ullius corporeae lucis ibi rutilat P num aliquis cantilenae modificatus et per tempus fluens canor illic insonat aut euanescentis fraglantiae suauitas halat aut aliquid istic corpulentum sapit aut aliquid molle uel durum localiter tangit? uisus illius clarescit prudentia, tenebrescit insipientia. auditus illius fallacia offenditur, ueritate mulcetur. inlocaliter illi fraglat aequitas, foetet iniquitas, uanitate tabescit, uirtute pinguescit. miser est contubernio stultitiae, beatus conplexu sapientiae. totus igitur oculus est, quia totus uidet et totum quod inspicit uidet, quodlibet autem corpus nec totum uidetur nec totum uidet. totus auditus est, quia totum quod audit totus audit, corpus autem nihil totum audit. et totus odoratur, gustat ac tangit, cum huius modi unitas et potentia in corpore esse non possit. hoc autem idcirco illi suapte natura est, quia ibi hoc est uidere quod audire, hoc audire quod olfacere, hoc olfacere quod gustare, hoc gustare quod tangere.
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Now let no little bodies, as it were, present themselves to the eyes of the mind, so that we believe that souls, once bodies are laid aside, occupy certain regions of air or of any element. Understand your own intellect, if you can, to which alone, together with an angel, it is granted to see these things. Do you see anything long, broad, or high in your intellect? Does any splendor of bodily light gleam there? Does any melody, measured and flowing through time, resound there, or does the sweetness of a fleeting fragrance waft there, or does anything corpulent taste there, or does anything soft or hard touch locally? Its sight is brightened by prudence, darkened by folly. Its hearing is offended by falsehood, soothed by truth. Non-locally, equity smells fragrant to it, iniquity stinks; it wastes away with vanity, grows fat with virtue. Therefore it is wholly eye, because it wholly sees and sees everything it inspects, but any body is neither wholly seen nor wholly sees. It is wholly hearing, because it wholly hears everything it hears, but a body hears nothing wholly. And it wholly smells, tastes, and touches, since such unity and power cannot exist in a body. This, however, is so for it by its own nature, because there seeing is the same as hearing, hearing the same as smelling, smelling the same as tasting, tasting the same as touching.
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sed occurrunt animae phantasiae corporum, quibus per sensus corporis adfecta non locis, sed fallaciis circumscribitur, et quia illorum tantum meminit, quorum species per corpus accepit, nihil esse credit quidquid tale non fuerit, nec suspirare potest illi patriae, de qua in hanc peregrinationem merito praecipitata est, cum peregrinari se nesciat. peregrinam se uero in corpore scire non poterit, si corpus esse se credit, unde uir ille, quem sui iam substantia non latebat, sicait: cum sumus in corpore, peregrinamur a domino. audemus autem et bonam uoluntatem habemus magis peregrinari a corpore et praesentes esse ad dominum. quid, quaeso, dici clarius potest?, omnia corpora siue crassa uel grauia, ut est aqua uel terra, siue tenuia et lenia, ut est ignis et aer, siue illa quae ex his confiunt seminaliter coeuntibus corporis nomine includi non ambigitur. quidquid autem qualelibet corpus est, dici potest leuius corpus, tenuius corpus, habilius corpus, sublimius corpus, clarius corpus, non tamen potest dici nisi corpus. apostolus autem qui dicit: cum sumus in corpore, peregrinamur a domino, uidetur mihi quod nequaquam peregrinari in corpore animam diceret, ei eandem corpus esse censeret, quia si anima corpus est et peregrinatur in corpore, in sua ergo substantia peregrinatur, nec umquam poterit non peregrinari quae sine se esse non poterit.
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But the phantoms of bodies occur to the soul, by which, affected through the senses of the body, it is circumscribed not by places but by deceptions, and because it remembers only those things whose forms it received through the body, it believes that nothing exists which is not of that kind, nor can it yearn for that fatherland from which it was deservedly cast down into this pilgrimage, since it does not know that it is on pilgrimage. But it will not be able to know that it is a stranger in the body if it believes itself to be the body, whence that man, whom his own substance no longer escaped, said: "When we are in the body, we are pilgrims from the Lord. But we dare, and we have the good will, to be more pilgrims from the body and to be present to the Lord." What, I ask, could be said more clearly? All bodies, whether thick or heavy, like water or earth, or thin and light, like fire and air, or those which are formed from these by seminal combination, are undoubtedly included under the name of body. But whatever kind of body it is, it can be called a lighter body, a thinner body, a more agile body, a more sublime body, a clearer body, yet it cannot be called anything but body. But the Apostle who says: "When we are in the body, we are pilgrims from the Lord," seems to me that he would by no means say that the soul is on pilgrimage in the body if he judged it to be the same as the body, because if the soul is a body and is on pilgrimage in a body, then it is on pilgrimage in its own substance, nor will it ever be able not to be on pilgrimage, since it cannot be without itself.
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nulla autem res ipsam se ullatenus amittit, quia non potest quidquam esse post se. facilius enim est aliquid prorsus aboleri ne quidquam sit, quam se et amittere et sibi superesse. ant igitur anima corpus est et fefellit apostolus, aut si peregrinatur in corpore, anima non est corpus.
XXII. INTERROGATIO ADHIBITA QVALITER ANIMA PEREGRINETVR IN CORPORE.
Subicias his fortassis ac dicas: quo modo hic tan tum peregrinari dicitur anima eo quod sit in corpore? si resurrectionem probe credimus, in illa quoque aeterna patria non sine corporibus futuri simus. hic respondeas uelim, utrumnam idcirco nunc anima peregrina dicatur, quia in corpore, an quia in tali sit corpore? istud nempe corpus, ut supra memoraui, adgrauat animam non illo utique pondere quod pendi potest, quia si illo, eo quisque uiribus plus ualebit, quo magis corpus inedia uel aegritudo tenuauerit unde hoc quoque multum nostris adstipulatur rationibus, quod liquido claret secundum illam uitam, quae nobis cum pecudibus est, hominis animam exeso atque arido quam pasto ac succulento corpore magis onerari. quod eo fit, quia fessum corpus non ita ualet animi nutibus facili motu seruire et onerosa illi est non ponderis grauitas, sed agendi difficultas.
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No thing, however, loses itself in any way, because nothing can be anything after itself. For it is easier for something to be utterly abolished so that it is nothing, than for it both to lose itself and to survive itself. Therefore either the soul is a body and the Apostle was mistaken, or if it sojourns in the body, the soul is not a body.
XXII. A QUESTION ADDED: HOW THE SOUL SOJOURNS IN THE BODY.
You may perhaps subjoin to these things and say: How is the soul said to sojourn here only in that it is in the body? If we rightly believe in the resurrection, in that eternal homeland also we shall be not without bodies. I would have you answer this: whether the soul is now called a sojourner because it is in a body, or because it is in such a body? This body, as I mentioned above, weighs down the soul not, indeed, by that weight which can be measured, because if by that, the more a man’s strength is worth, the more the body has been thinned by fasting or illness; whence this also greatly supports our arguments, that it is clearly evident that according to that life which we share with cattle, the human soul is more burdened by a wasted and dry body than by a well-fed and succulent one. This happens because a weary body is not able to serve the mind’s commands with easy motion, and what is burdensome to it is not the heaviness of weight, but the difficulty of action.
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ac perinde si belluinam uitam, quam nobis istic inesse manifestum est, cogitamus, corpus istud non adgrauat animam: si uero illam quae cum angelis erit adspicimus, adgrauat animam occupando eam atque inliciendo uel necessariis uel uoluptuosis defigendo eandem in pulchra corpora et a contemplatione summae pulchritudins abducendo. istud ergo quod uel esui aut potui necessario in salutem corporis opus est, si plus quam opus) inpenditur, uel superflue uoluptatum nugis animus occupatur uel plagis ac doloribus per corpus adfligitur, adgrauari eandem et pro multitudine ac difficultate actionis onerari perspicuum est. et haec est illa peregrinatio, de qua dicit apostolus: cum sumus in corpore, peregrinamur a domino. cum uero ad illam corporis permutationem peruenerit qui meruerit, de qua idem dicit: omnes resurgemus, sed non omnes inmutabimur, non obuiabit tunc nutibus animae corpus animale quod non erit, sed per omnia seruiet spiritale corpus quod erit. sed nec illud quippiam concupiscet indignum, nec haec aliquid imperabit iniustum, et quoniam sancta anima adfectu casto in deum rapitur, animaduerte nec peregrinationem illi localem esse nec patriam. numquid in hac uita deus cum anima non est, etiam si ipsa cum deo non sit ? aliud enim est esse cum deo, aliud non esse sine deo, quia non localiter ad illum uenitur '.nec localiter ab illo disceditur.
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And accordingly, if we consider the brutish life, which is manifestly present in us here, that body does not weigh down the soul; but if we look to that life which will be with the angels, it weighs down the soul by occupying and enticing it, fixing it either by necessities or by pleasures in beautiful bodies and drawing it away from the contemplation of supreme beauty. Therefore, that which is necessary for eating or drinking for the preservation of the body, if it is expended beyond what is necessary, either the mind is occupied with the trifles of superfluous pleasures or it is afflicted through the body by blows and pains; it is clear that the soul is weighed down and burdened by the multitude and difficulty of action. And this is that pilgrimage of which the Apostle says: when we are in the body, we are pilgrims from the Lord. But when one who has merited arrives at that change of the body, of which the same Apostle says: we will all rise again, but not all will be changed, then the animal body, which will not exist, will not obstruct the soul's commands, but the spiritual body, which will exist, will serve in all things. But neither will that body desire anything unworthy, nor will this soul command anything unjust, and since the holy soul is swept up to God with chaste affection, understand that for it there is neither a local pilgrimage nor a local homeland. Is it not the case that in this life God is with the soul, even if the soul itself is not with God? For it is one thing to be with God, another not to be without God, because one does not come to Him locally, nor is one locally separated from Him.
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proinde anima illa cum deo est, quae uidet, hoc est intellegit deum, et illa cum deo non est, quae utique non intellegit deum. deus autem et intellegenti et non intellegenti adest inlocaliter. sed in tantum istic peregrinatur, in quantum per uoluptatem ac dolores corporis per loca uel tempora, per phantasias et phantasmata a summi boni contemplatione reuocatur, quod tunc ad plene non erit, cum corruptibile hoc induerit inmortalitatem et mortale hoc induerit inmortalitatem.
Quae cum ita sint, peregrinatur anima in corpore, cuius corruptione, debilitate atque indigentia a patria, hoc est a deo separatur. puto autem substantiam, cuius peregrinatio locale est atque corporeum et cuius patria incorporeum et inlocale, non ueraciter dici uel corpoream uel localem. in illo autem peregrinatio non erit, cuius nullo adpetitu prolicietur, nullo renisu occupabitur, nullo pondere praepedietur. patet, ut arbitror, animam non in omni corpore, sed in carnali tantum corpore peregrinari, quia carnale corpus obuiat et spiritale proximat incorporeis. ergo, ut aliquando de nostra tantum, sicut praelocuti sumus, substantia disseramus, quis potest memoriae solius abyssos intueri et antra penetrare ?
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Therefore, that soul is with God which sees, that is, understands God, and that soul is not with God which certainly does not understand God. But God is present non-locally to both the understanding and the non-understanding. However, the soul sojourns here to the extent that it is recalled from contemplation of the highest good through pleasure and pains of the body, through places or times, through phantasies and phantasms, which will not fully occur then when this corruptible thing has put on immortality and this mortal thing has put on immortality.
Since this is the case, the soul sojourns in the body, by whose corruption, debility, and need it is separated from its homeland, that is, from God. But I think that a substance whose sojourn is local and corporeal and whose homeland is incorporeal and non-local cannot truthfully be called either corporeal or local. In that state, however, there will be no sojourn, by which it will be drawn by no appetite, seized by no resistance, hindered by no weight. It is clear, as I think, that the soul sojourns not in every body, but only in a fleshly body, because a fleshly body obstructs and a spiritual body approaches incorporeal things. Therefore, to discuss at last only our own substance, as we have previously spoken, who can gaze into the abysses and penetrate the caverns of memory alone?
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in ista mihi est quidquid usquam colorum formarumque uidi, in hac quidquid uerborum uel sonorum per aures accepi, in hac quidquid odorum per nares adtraxi, in hac quidquid saporum diuersitate cognoui, in hac quidquid tactu nuntiante discreui, in hac mihi reposita quodam modo sunt et grammatica, cum de dialecticis dissero, et rhetorica, cum de geometricis, et astrologica, cum de musicis, et hae simul omnes, cum de arithmeticis: iuxta formas partium mundi, quas uideo, de his quas non uideo adminiculante ratione cognoscens incorporea mundum capacitate conplector.
XXIII. QVOD ANIMA INCORPOREA INCORPORALITER VIDEAT PER SE, CORPOREA VERO PER CORPVS.
Sed dicis mihi: non mundum memoria conplecteris, sed figuram mundi. uel ex hoc intellege animam non esse corpoream, quia uides eandem nec corporalia corporaliter posse conspicere. huic ergo superpositus est non loco, sed ui ac potentia oculus quidam, qui siue spiritus siue mens siue intellectus unum atque idem est, etsi diuerso nomine dicitur. ergo quod est lapis ad inanimum uiuens, hoc inanimum uiuens ad animatum uiuens, et quod est inanimum uiuens ad animatum uiuens, hoc est animatum uiuens ad uiuentem et intellegentem. administrat inrationalis anima corpus animale in salutem scilicet eius, et administrat.
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In that [memory] is stored for me whatever of colors and forms I have ever seen anywhere; in this, whatever of words or sounds I have received through my ears; in this, whatever of odors I have drawn in through my nostrils; in this, whatever I have known through the diversity of tastes; in this, whatever I have distinguished through the report of touch; in this are stored for me, in a certain way, both grammar, when I discourse on dialectics, and rhetoric, when on geometry, and astrology, when on music, and all these together, when on arithmetic: knowing by means of the forms of the parts of the world which I see, with reason assisting concerning those which I do not see, I embrace the world with an incorporeal capacity.
XXIII. THAT THE SOUL, BEING INCORPOREAL, SEES INCORPOREALLY THROUGH ITSELF, BUT CORPOREAL THINGS THROUGH THE BODY.
But you say to me: you do not embrace the world by memory, but the image of the world. Even from this understand that the soul is not corporeal, because you see that the same cannot perceive corporeal things corporeally. Therefore, set over this [soul] is not in place, but in power and potency, a certain eye, which, whether it be called spirit or mind or intellect, is one and the same, even if it is called by a different name. Therefore, what a stone is to a non-living thing, that a non-living thing is to a living thing, and what a non-living thing is to a living thing, that a living thing is to a living and understanding thing. The irrational soul administers the animal body for the sake, of course, of its health, and administers.
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animam rationalem intellectus rationis capax in salutem uidelicet animae rationalis operante atque administrante deo principali potestate et stabili motione atque ininitiato substantiarum cardine primum ut sint, deinceps ut pro modo uel merito taliter sint qualiter esse debere ille constituit, qui non nisi iuste uniuersa disponit. nam sicut de corporibus ibi uel ibi esse propter localitatis necessitatem congrue dicitur, ita de animabus propter inlocalitatem uel qualitatem taliter esse uel taliter iure pronuntiatur, quia sicut uiuenti corpori iucundum est luculentus locus uel temperatus aer, ita uiuificanti animo tranquillitas in cogitatione et securitas a timore. itidem, sicut poenalia sunt corpori tenebrosus locus et asper adtactus, sic animo cogitandi instabilitas et angustiae formidandi. agitur ergo anima non per loca, sed pro adfectuum diuersitate et delecta-. biliter et poenaliter. illud tamen liquet animam sine corpore incorporaliter per adfectus p(ropr)ie uel mulceri uel adfligi posse, corpus sine anima uel suauia uel poenalia sentire non posse. animae igitur corporatae est per corpus sentire corporea eidemque sine corpore uidere incorporea. ergo ut corpus inanimum nihil sentit, ita animus sine corpore corporea uniuersa non sentit.
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a rational soul, capable of reason and intellect, for the salvation, clearly, of the rational soul, with God operating and administering by principal power and stable motion and at the uninitiated hinge of substances, first that they exist, then that, according to their mode or merit, they are such as He, who disposes all things only justly, has determined they ought to be. For just as it is fittingly said of bodies that they are here or there because of the necessity of locality, so of souls, because of their non-locality or quality, it is rightly pronounced that they are such or such, because just as a pleasant place or temperate air is agreeable to a living body, so tranquility in thought and security from fear are agreeable to a life-giving mind. Likewise, just as a dark place and harsh touch are penal for the body, so instability of thought and the distresses of fear are for the mind. Therefore, the soul is acted upon not through places, but according to the diversity of its affections, both delightfully and penally. Yet it is clear that the soul without a body can be either soothed or afflicted incorporeally through its affections, while the body without a soul cannot perceive either pleasant or penal things. Therefore, it is through the body that the embodied soul perceives corporeal things, and without the body it sees incorporeal things. Hence, just as a lifeless body perceives nothing, so a mind without a body does not perceive any corporeal things at all.
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hinc est quod etiam dum corpus administrat atque sentificat, si quando in summa eademque semper adtollitur, ita quodam modo corporeos deserit sensus ab hisdemque inlocaliter abscedit, ut coram posita non uideat, ut iuxta sonantia non audiat, ut percursam legendo paginam non intellegat. adest anima ut per oculum literarum signa colligat eademque in syllabas sociata coniungat ac per uerba distinguat, et non adest ut quid per haec fecerit sciat. lego clare aliquid, pronuntiantem me alter intellegit, qui in id mentis oculum figit, ego uero ipse quid legerim nescio, quia in aliud anima inlocaliter intenta discessit. denique cum ad memet ipsum uel admonitus redeo, ego ipse sum, qui utique redeo, et ego ipse sum, ad quem redeo, et mecum non fui, quia ad me per interuallum non loci, sed temporis redii, et extra me non fui, quia sine me esse non potui. ipsa istic est anima, ut per oculum quae leguntur uideat, et ipsa istic non est, ut quae leguntur intellegat. aut non saepe usu euenit, ut sine cuiusce modi lectionibus adcommodantes uisum sine relationi cuiuspiam adhibentes auditum, cum haec eadem non minus intellegi quam uideri atque audiri facillimum sit, utroque tamen sensu sonos ac signa capiamus, cum quid haec eadem significent non intellegamus? et tamen rursum in id quod intellectum non erat animi referentes obtutum absque ulla hoc idem difficultate conprehendimus.
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Hence it is that even while the soul administers and sensitizes the body, if it is ever raised up into that same highest state, it in a certain way deserts the bodily senses and departs from them non-locally, so that it does not see what is placed before it, does not hear what sounds nearby, does not understand the page it has read through. The soul is present so that through the eye it may gather the signs of letters, join them into syllables, combine them, and distinguish them into words, and it is not present so that it may know what it has done through these. I read something clearly; another who fixes the eye of his mind upon it understands me as I pronounce it, but I myself do not know what I have read, because the soul, non-locally intent, has departed into something else. Finally, when I return to myself, either admonished or of my own accord, I am the same who returns, and I am the same to whom I return, and I was not with myself, because I returned to myself through an interval not of place but of time, and I was not outside myself, because I could not be without myself. The soul itself is there, so that through the eye it may see what is read, and the soul itself is not there, so that it may understand what is read. Or does it not often happen in experience that, without any reading, we apply our sight and direct our hearing to some relation, and although it is very easy for these same things to be understood no less than seen and heard, we yet grasp with both senses sounds and signs, while we do not understand what these same things signify? And yet again, turning the gaze of the mind back upon that which was not understood, we comprehend it without any difficulty.
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XXIIII. QVIA NON EST ALIVD ANIMA ALIVD MEMORIA COGITATIO VEL VOLVNTAS, CVM HAEC EADEM VNA SIT ANIMA.
Sed subiungis ac dicis: aliud est animae status, aliud is qui de anima nascitur cogitationis adfectus. quam ob rem aut hoc potius aestimandum est, quod si quando sibi aliquid imaginatur, magiscum suis intra semet ipsam motibus occupetur, et si quid aliud est, quod adspicere uidetur, magis ei in recordationis speculo describatur. istud naturam tu putas eius esse, non poenam, idcircoque anima tua in recognitione sui fallitur, quia sibi aduersantia pro se amplectitur et per sensus corporis fallaciarum adfecta. ludibriis eotenus inplicatur errore, ut tamquam absens sibi se quaerat, cum ipsa sit quaerens se. non enim illud est anima quod q guaeritur, sed quo quaeritur: quidquid enim quaerit, extra se est, nec quaerere illi opus est, nisi quod secum non est. ipsa autem secum est, quia sine se nihil est, quaerere se ergo non debuit, quae sine se esse non potuit. quapropter cum se non sine se quaerit, necessario in aliud incurrit, quia non potest se inuenire sine se. haec est illa inlusio, quam qui intellegit dolet ac dolens gemit et cum propheta plangit ac dicit: tota die contristatus ingredior, quoniam anima mea conpleta est inlusionibus.
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CHAPTER 24: THAT THE SOUL IS NOT ONE THING AND MEMORY, THOUGHT, OR WILL ANOTHER, SINCE THESE ARE THE SAME ONE SOUL.
But you add and say: the state of the soul is one thing, the affection of thought which arises from the soul is another. For this reason, it should rather be judged that if at some time it imagines something to itself, it is more occupied with its own motions within itself, and if there is something else which it seems to behold, it is more described to it in the mirror of recollection. You think this is its nature, not its punishment, and for that reason your soul is deceived in its recognition of itself, because it embraces things opposed to itself in place of itself and, affected by the deceits of the body through the senses, is so entangled in deceptions up to that point that it seeks itself as if absent, when it itself is the one seeking. For that which is sought is not the soul, but that by which it is sought: whatever seeks is outside itself, nor does it need to seek except for what is not with itself. But it is with itself, because nothing is without itself, therefore it ought not to have sought itself, which could not be without itself. Consequently, when it seeks itself not without itself, it necessarily runs into something else, because it cannot find itself without itself. This is that delusion, which whoever understands grieves, and grieving groans, and with the prophet laments and says: "I go about sad all day long, because my soul is filled with delusions.
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sed istius modi inlusiones in memoria patitur anima, ex qua nihil phantasiarum reuentilare ac proferre posset, nisi easdem a formis corporum per corporeos sensus hausisset, siue enim eadem quae per corpus adtraxit sibimet imaginatur siue ex his quae.uidit illa quae non uidit coniectat atque confingit, certum tamen est imaginari illam intra quendam uentrem memoriae nequaquam posse nisi ea, quae per corpus accepit. et haec illi non naturalia, sed poenalia sunt, ut, quoniam a summo bono quod ei deus est inlecebris pellecta corporeis defluxit in corpus,\\, persuasa patiatur illud intra semet ipsam iuste, quod extra se dilexit iniuste. non ergo mihi tu illud esse animam persuadere uelis, quo perturbari potius eandem uides. illa namque si in status pristini sublimitate mansisset, a quo sponte dilapsa est, numquam contra spiritum caro, nec contra carnem spirtusconcupisset, et si homo uerus, hoc est anima rationalis honorem suum, imaginem scilicet dei intellexisset, numquam insipientibus fuisset conparata iumentis, uidelicet ut animaliter uiueret. hinc est ille prae oculis eius imaginum corporearum tumultus se semper obiectans, ut si quando uel ad se uel ad deum suum ratiocinando nititur, semper ad corporea phantasiis corporis auocetur.
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But the soul suffers delusions of this kind in memory, from which it could not fan out and bring forth any phantasms unless it had drawn them from the forms of bodies through the bodily senses. For whether it imagines to itself the same things which it drew in through the body, or from those which it saw it conjectures and fabricates those which it did not see, it is nevertheless certain that it can by no means imagine within a certain womb of memory except those things which it received through the body. And these are not natural for it, but penal, so that, since it flowed down from the highest good, which is God for it, into the body, enticed by bodily allurements, it suffers, persuaded, within itself justly that which it loved unjustly outside itself. Do not, therefore, wish to persuade me that the soul is that by which you see it rather to be disturbed. For if it had remained in the sublimity of its pristine state, from which it voluntarily slipped away, flesh would never have lusted against spirit, nor spirit against flesh; and if the true man, that is, the rational soul, had understood its own honor, namely the image of God, it would never have been compared to senseless beasts, that is, so that it lived in an animal-like manner. Hence is that tumult of corporeal images always thrusting itself before its eyes, so that whenever it strives by reasoning either towards itself or towards its God, it is always distracted to corporeal things by the phantasms of the body.
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Tu enim cum dicis aliud esse animam, aliud animae cogitationem, melius fortasse dixisses illa, de quibus cogitat, cum de se non cogitat, non esse animam, ipsam uero cogitationem non esse nisi animam, quia illud, quod subiciendum esse dixisti, eatenus animam solere requiescere, ut prorsus cogitet nihil, caret uero. anima nempe uariare cogitata potest, non cogitare non potest. quid autem illud est quod somniare dicimus, nisi quod ne defesso quidem corpore in somnosque resoluto animae uis a cogitationibus uacat? tota uero ibi est ubi cogitat, quia tota cogitat. uerum tu idcirco uel maxime de animae statu falleris, quia aliud animam, aliud esse animae potentias credis. quod enim cogitat accidens eius est, substantia uero qua cogitat. hoc equidem de uolentate oportet agnoscas. nam sicut tota anima cogitatio est, ita anima tota uoluntas est et quae perfecte uult tota uult, et ut supra dictum est, quaecumque illi uelle accidentia est, ipsum uero uelle substantia est. hinc etiam in sacris literis uoluntatis perfectae definitio, prout illud est, quod ita uel ita uoluit, damnabilis laudabilisue censetur. sic in euangelio dominus: qui uiderit, inquit, mulierem ad concupiscendum eam, iam moechatus est eam in corde suo. et in bonam partem loco alio angelorum uocibus dicitur: gloria in excelsis deo et in terra pax hominibus bonae uoluntatis.
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For when you say that the soul is one thing and the soul's thought another, you might perhaps have said better that those things about which it thinks, when it does not think about itself, are not the soul, but that thought itself is nothing other than the soul, because that which you said is to be subjected, that the soul is accustomed to rest to such an extent that it thinks of nothing at all, is lacking in truth. The soul can indeed vary what it thinks, but it cannot not think. And what is that which we call dreaming, except that not even when the body is weary and relaxed into sleep does the soul's power rest from thoughts? It is wholly there where it thinks, because it wholly thinks. But you are deceived about the state of the soul especially for this reason, because you believe the soul is one thing and the soul's powers are another. For what it thinks is an accident of it, but the substance by which it thinks. This you must likewise acknowledge about the will. For just as the whole soul is thought, so the whole soul is will, and what it perfectly wills it wills wholly, and as was said above, whatever willing is for it is an accident, but the willing itself is substance. Hence also in the sacred scriptures there is a definition of perfect will, as in that which is, that what it willed in such or such a way is judged damnable or praiseworthy. Thus in the Gospel the Lord says: "Whoever sees a woman to desire her," he says, "has already committed adultery with her in his heart." And in a good sense in another place it is said by angelic voices: "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to men of good will.
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ecce dilectio, ut tu arbitraris, animi quaedam portio est, ut ratio docet, animus totus est. si quid ergo toto amore amo, non id ipsum toto animo diligo? et ubi uacat illud quod dicitur: diliges dominum deum tuum ex toto corde tuo et ex tota anima tua, si animae pars putatur esse dilectio? si enim parte sui diligit anima, non utique tota diligit. sin uero tota diligit, tota absque ambiguitate dilectio est. dicitur enim uereque dicitur, quon- ' iam deus dilectio est sed dilectio illa talis est, ut nec ipsa diligere nisi bonum nec per eam diligi possit nisi bene. haec autem dilectio, quod est anima humana, propter adfectuum mutabilitatem potest et in superiora, quod ei solus deus est, caelesti cartate flagrare et in inferiora damnabili amore diffluere. quodlibet tamen diligat, si toto amore diligit, tota diligit et, cum tota diligit, tota dilectio est, quae unitas in corpore scilicet non est.
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Behold, love—as you suppose, a certain portion of the mind; as reason teaches, the whole mind. Therefore, if I love something with total love, do I not love that very thing with my whole mind? And where does that which is said have room: "You shall love the Lord your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul," if love is thought to be a part of the soul? For if the soul loves by a part of itself, it certainly does not love wholly. But if it loves wholly, then without ambiguity it is wholly love. For it is said, and truly said, that God is love; but that love is of such a kind that neither can it itself love except the good, nor can it be loved through it except rightly. This love, however, which is the human soul, on account of the mutability of its affections, can both blaze with heavenly charity toward higher things—for which the only such thing is God—and flow away with damnable love toward lower things. Yet whatever it loves, if it loves with total love, it loves wholly; and when it loves wholly, it is wholly love—a unity which, of course, is not in the body.
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XXV. EXEMPLVM DE GEOMETRICA ARITHMETICA ATQVE DIALECTICA AD ERVDIENDVM LECTOREM IN EA QVAE OBSCVRA SVNT, QVID VIDEAT ANIMA PER SE, QVID PER CORPVS.
Sed dicis: quando absentem carum suum cogitat, numquid uelut ipso conspecto desideriis satisfecit? ista, ut ego conicio atque ut plane probo, potissima admodum causa est, quae temet ignarum perpulit animam referre corpoream. a sensibus quaeso corporis paulisper adtollere ac si uales perspice, quae uel quanta uis uidendi sit animo, et si quid potes animi uisum corporisque discerne. corpus certe nihil uidet, quia nihil utique sentit absque anima, ac per hoc animus corporea per corpus uidet, incorporea per se. haec ipsa nunc, quantum in praesentiarum res postulat, sequestremus, ut quae sint animi uisa per corpus, quae sine corpore euidenter adpareat. nam qui uel aliquid eruditus est, credo nouerit in geometrica disciplina quid sit punctum quidue linea, sed quia inter eos, qui ista dignabuntur legere, potest esse qui nesciat, de hoc ipso paululum dissertando quaeramus. linea est, ut doctissimi atque excellentes uiri non dixere solum, sed ratiocinando probauere, longitudo simplex, quae in corpore prorsus nequeat inueniri eo quod omne corpus longitudine longum sit, non tamen ipsa sit longitudo neque possit sic esse longum, ut non latum simul altumque sit.
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CHAPTER 25: AN EXAMPLE FROM GEOMETRY, ARITHMETIC, AND DIALECTIC FOR INSTRUCTING THE READER IN THOSE MATTERS WHICH ARE OBSCURE: WHAT THE SOUL SEES BY ITSELF, WHAT THROUGH THE BODY.
But you say: when one thinks of an absent loved one, has one not, as if by seeing him, satisfied one's desires? This, as I conjecture and as I clearly prove, is a very powerful reason which drove you, unknowing, to declare the soul corporeal. Please lift yourself a little from the bodily senses, and if you can, perceive what or how great the power of seeing is in the mind, and if you can, distinguish the sight of the mind from that of the body. Certainly the body sees nothing, because it feels nothing at all without the soul, and by this the mind sees corporeal things through the body, incorporeal things by itself. Let us now separate these very things, as much as the matter at present demands, so that it may clearly appear what are the sights of the mind through the body, and what without the body. For whoever is even somewhat educated, I believe, knows in the discipline of geometry what a point is and what a line is, but because among those who will deign to read these things there may be one who does not know, let us inquire by discussing this a little. A line is, as the most learned and excellent men have not only said but have proven by reasoning, a simple length, which cannot be found in a body at all, because every body is long in length, yet it is not itself length, nor can it be long in such a way that it is not simultaneously broad and high.
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quocirca sicut aiunt etiam si araneae filum cogitaueris, quia utique corpus est, non solum longitudinem cogitasti, habet enim pro modo suo indissociabilem longitudinis suae latitudinem atque altitudinem. igitur si, ut fateri ueritas cogit, aliud est longitudo quam latitudo, seposita latitudine solam longitudinem cogitemus. scio autem hanc eandem liquido conspici non esse multorum, quam cum Marcius quoque philosophus negaret mathematico Adrasto se uidere, cum lineas fabrorum nimie uideret: utique non mirum est, inquit Adrastus, quod habes oculos similes fabrorum, ingenium dissimile, Pythagorae. sed non idcirco tardioribus desperandum est, modo ut auctoritati cedamus qui rationem forte non capimus.
Haec ergo de qua loqui institueram longitudo cum fuerit puncto inchoata punctoque finita, a Graecis , a nostris linea dicitur. iam nunc si quid sit longitudo sine latitudine congnoscere ualuisti et lineam longitudine finita formasti, duas aequales lineas sibimet e regione constitue, quod cum feceris, intellege te figuram duabus lineis paribus non fecisse. figura enim dicitur, cum paribus inparibusue lineis capitibus sese contingentibus locus ambitur.
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Therefore, just as they say, even if you think of a spider’s thread, because it is certainly a body, you have not thought only of its length; for, in proportion to its own measure, it possesses an inseparable breadth and depth of its length. So, if, as truth compels us to admit, length is one thing and breadth another, let us set aside breadth and think of length alone. I know, however, that this same thing is clearly seen by not many; indeed, when the philosopher Marcius also denied to the mathematician Adrastus that he saw it, although he saw the lines of the craftsmen excessively, Adrastus said: “It is certainly not surprising that you have eyes like the craftsmen, but a mind unlike Pythagoras.” But for that reason the slower-witted should not despair, provided we yield to authority, even if we do not grasp the reasoning.
This length, then, about which I had begun to speak, when it has been begun from a point and ended at a point, is called by the Greeks γραμμή, by us linea. Now, if you have been able to understand what length without breadth is, and you have formed a line bounded by length, place two equal lines opposite each other; when you have done this, understand that you have not made a figure with two equal lines. For a figure is said to exist when a space is enclosed by equal or unequal lines touching each other at their ends.
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duabus ergo paribus lineis sine auersim positis sine capite contingentibus figura non clauditur, tribus uero aequalibus lineis figura fit trigona, et hoc aeterna atque indemutabilis ratio est omni humanae menti uel non admonitae clarens liquido. numquid ergo tribus lineis paribus quae semet mutuo capitibus tangunt fieri umquam nisi trigona poterit? aut istud magis nunc uerum est, quam fuit, aut esse hoc uerum aliquando coepit aut aliquando desinet, aut non est facilius corporeum interire mundum, cuius utique tumidae localesque formae istarum inlocalium incorporaliumque sunt imago formarum, quam ut aliquid ex his uel uariari specie uel transmoueri loco uel senio ueterescere uel quoquo pacto mutari queat? ne ergo per omnes te disciplinae istius minutias traham neue intentionem tuam in adspectandis planarum figurarum uel cuborum uel pyramidarum rationibus teneam, propter circuli perfectionem de una tantum figura, ut adhuc fecimus, breuiter conloquamur.
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Two equal parallel lines, placed without deviation and not touching at their ends, do not enclose a figure; but with three equal lines a triangular figure is formed, and this is an eternal and immutable principle, clearly evident to every human mind even without being prompted. Can it ever be that three equal lines, touching each other at their ends, form anything other than a triangle? Or is this truth more true now than it was before, or did it begin to be true at some time, or will it cease to be true at some time? Or is it not easier for the corporeal world, whose swollen and local forms are of course the image of these non-local and incorporeal forms, to perish, than for any of these to be varied in species, or moved from place, or grow old with age, or be changed in any way whatsoever? Therefore, so that I do not drag you through all the minutiae of this discipline, nor detain your attention in examining the principles of plane figures, or cubes, or pyramids, let us speak briefly, as we have done so far, about just one figure, on account of the perfection of the circle.
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Circulus fit ex una linea. sed iure nunc illud admoneberis, quod linea sine latitudine atque altitudine perfectior est, quae tamen habet aliquid se ipsa perfectius. punctum nempe principaliter est origo lineae, ab ipso incipitur ipsoque finitur, cum punctum nec oriri a quoquam pateat nec finiri. hoc namque continet in figuris punctum, quod unus in numeris. ista ergo linea, quae transuersim secari potest, scindi per longum. non potest, quia utique si scinditur, habet latitudinem, cum secanda est, puncto caeditur, cum punctum scilicet non caedatur. perfectior ergo longitudo latitudine, quia latitudo et transuersim et directim recipit sectionem. perfectior latitudo altitudine, quia altitudo non solum findi ac secari, uerum et a latere caedi potest. ergo altitudo sine latitudine et longitudine esse non potest, et ubi haec tria sunt, haud dubie corpus est. latitudo sine longitudine esse non potest, longitudo sine his omnibus esse potest, sed sine puncto esse non. potest. sine his uero punctum semper est nec cuiuspiam ut sit indiget, quia unius nullum potest esse principium. circulus igitur una eademque circumflexa fit linea, sed sicut in trigonis et tetragonis per angulos puncta sunt, quibus figurarum ratio consistit, sic in circulo eius medium puncto possidebitur, ut circulus rata dimensione formetur.
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A circle is formed from a single line. But now you will rightly be reminded that a line without breadth and height is more perfect, yet it has something more perfect than itself. For the point is principally the origin of the line; from it the line begins and in it the line ends, since the point is manifestly seen neither to arise from anything nor to end. For the point holds the same place in figures as the unit does in numbers. Therefore this line, which can be cut transversely, cannot be split lengthwise, because if it is split, it certainly has breadth; when it is to be cut, it is cut by a point, since the point is obviously not cut. Therefore length is more perfect than breadth, because breadth admits cutting both transversely and directly. Breadth is more perfect than height, because height can not only be split and cut, but also be hewn from the side. Therefore height cannot exist without breadth and length, and where these three are present, it is undoubtedly a body. Breadth cannot exist without length; length can exist without all these, but cannot exist without the point. The point, however, always exists without these and does not need anything else in order to exist, because there can be no principle of a unit. A circle, therefore, is made by one and the same curved line, but just as in triangles and quadrilaterals there are points at the angles, by which the principle of the figures holds together, so in a circle its center will be occupied by a point, so that the circle is formed with a fixed dimension.
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nam cum unum circini radium fixeris atque alium a centro extrinsecus circumflexa, adtende quantum potes centri potentiam ab stabili radio illum qui circumagitur radium regere et illic, ubi localiter non est, potentialiter circulum figurare.
Hic si purgata mentis intendas acie, subrutilare tibi iam debet quid sit anima. illud etiam quale est quod, si sensum corporis consulamus, per medium circulum duae pares lineae iuxtim duci posse credantur, cum ratio manifesta conuincat nequaquam per eundem medium duci duas posse nisi una sit breuior? uidetur mihi, sicut superius de trigona patuit, istic quoque circuli ratio insolubilibus atque aeternis manere legibus stabilis. tu mihi nunc dicas uelim, si ista localiter conspicit anima, quid causae est, ut mihi aliquid rotundum, trigonum uel tetragonum in occidente de corporibus formare molienti eadem sine tumore uel motu ratio rotundi uel quadri non desit, cum eodem temporis puncto secundum eandem rotundi et quadrati legem in oriente alius paria de corporibus ualeat fabricare? uidesne uel de his, quae conspicatur anima, quid sit uisus animi? intellegisne intellegibile et intellegens nequaquam posse seiungi? animaduertisne etiam quid intersit inter illas formas, quas corpore cernimus, et istas, quas mente conspicimus? istas esse sempiternum mundum, cuius hic mundus imago sit, unde diuinitus dictum est: praeterit enim figura huius mundi.
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For when you have fixed one leg of the compass and have curved the other from the center outward, attend as much as you can to the power of the center: from the stationary leg it governs the leg that is moved around, and there, where it is not locally, it potentially forms the circle.
If you direct the purified edge of your mind here, it ought now to glimmer for you what the soul is. That also is something: if we consult bodily sense, it may be believed that two equal lines can be drawn side by side through the middle of a circle, when manifest reason proves that by no means can two be drawn through the same middle unless one is shorter. It seems to me, as was evident above concerning the triangle, that here too the principle of the circle remains fixed by indissoluble and eternal laws. Now I would have you tell me: if the soul sees these things locally, what cause is there that, when I am fashioning something round, triangular, or quadrangular from bodies in the west, the same principle of round or square is not absent to me without swelling or motion, while at the same moment, according to the same law of round and square, another person in the east is able to fashion similar things from bodies? Do you see, even from these things which the soul beholds, what the vision of the mind is? Do you understand that the intelligible and the intelligent can by no means be separated? Do you also notice what the difference is between those forms which we perceive with the body and those which we perceive with the mind? That the latter are the eternal world, of which this world is an image, whence it has been divinely said: "For the figure of this world passes away.
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uides etiam quod cum longitudines, latitudines et altitudines corporum scire nullius propemodum sit momenti, satis esse aliud, unde dicit apostolus oportere nos nosse quid sit latitudo et longitudo, sublimitas et profundum? quid enim mihi proderit uspiam altitudinem corporei caeli quaerere, planorum siderum diastemata uel circulorum uias uel singulorum interualla rimari, quid spatia terrae cognoscere uel abyssi profunda penetrare? non de his me, ut reor, apostolus commonitum uoluit, quae non solum laboriosa sunt, sed etiam noxia si, cum per haec ad aeterna semperque manentia transeundum sit, in his haereatur atque remaneatur.
Reuertere nunc atque intuere omne longum longitudine longum fieri, ipsam uero longitudinem longam dici non posse, ut omne castum castitate castum fieri, ipsam uero castam non dici ullatenus castitatem. cum ergo meram longitudinem contemplari cupis aut cum in trigonum uel hexagonum mentis oculum figis, proice quantum uales ac refuge non solum omne corporeum, sed quidquid simile potest esse corporeo, et cum trigonam uel tribus punctis ac tribus lineis uel rotundam puncto uel linea conformari incorporaliter atque inlocaliter uideris, uim quoque ac supereminentiam conspice numerorum et intellege uniuersum corporeum numerabile per numeros fieri, ipsos uero numeros non posse numerari.
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You also see that, while knowing the lengths, breadths, and heights of bodies is of almost no importance, there is something else that suffices, whence the Apostle says that we ought to know what breadth and length, height and depth are? For what will it profit me anywhere to seek the height of the corporeal heaven, to examine the intervals of the planets, the paths of the circles, or the distances of individual stars, to know the spaces of the earth or to penetrate the depths of the abyss? Not about these, I think, did the Apostle wish to warn me—things which are not only laborious but also harmful if, when one must pass through them to eternal and ever-abiding things, one clings to them and remains in them.
Now return and observe that every long thing becomes long by length, but that length itself cannot be called long, just as every chaste thing becomes chaste by chastity, but chastity itself cannot in any way be called chaste. Therefore, when you wish to contemplate pure length, or when you fix the eye of the mind upon a trigon or a hexagon, cast away as much as you can and flee not only everything corporeal, but also whatever can be like the corporeal; and when you see the trigon—whether formed by three points and three lines, or the round by a point or a line—incorporeally and non-locally, then also behold the power and preeminence of numbers, and understand that the whole corporeal realm is made numerable through numbers, but that the numbers themselves cannot be numbered.
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nam quis non dicam eloqui, sed cogitare digne ualeat, quod numerus, cum ex uno et per unum et in uno sit, principium tamen ac finis illius non sit? si enim dixerimus unum numeri esse principium, ipsius unius quod dicemus esse principium P ecce habes principium numeri in principio, ut ex ipsa sit numerus. iam uero si numerare uelimus, adicimus unum uni ut fiant, duo, et unum duobus ut fiant tria, et unum tribus ut fiant quattuor, et deinceps quotiens unum multiplicauerimus, totiens quasi multi singuli in summa ducuntur, ut decies ducti decem et uicies uiginti et centies centum et millies mille nominentur, ut agnoscas omnem numerum ita per unum esse, sicut ex uno procedere. illud uero patet ad finem numeri, qui nullus est prorsus, ueniri non posse, quia trans omnem numerum, qui ex uno et per unum et in uno est, semper est unus. tria tamen ista sunt, cum dicimus ex uno et per unum et in uno, pariter aeterna, perinde inlocalia ubique tota, eidem infinito semper aequalia, quia nullum uere unum maius unumue minus est. haec sunt numerorum inchoantia ducentia perficientia: ipsa nec inchoata nec numerata nec finita, credo, quia sapientiae dei non est numerus. nam cum ex uno et per unum et in uno sit numerus, nec numerari nisi trifariam possit, ut per eundem numerum ordiamur numeremus finiamus, ipse est ternarius totus, per quem omnis est numerus.
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For who—I will not say speak, but even think—could worthily grasp that number, though it exists from the one and through the one and in the one, yet the one is neither its beginning nor its end? For if we say that the one is the beginning of number, what shall we say is the beginning of the one itself? Behold, you have the beginning of number in the beginning, so that number arises from it. But if we wish to count, we add one to one to make two, and one to two to make three, and one to three to make four, and so on; as often as we multiply the one, so often are the individual units, as it were, led into a sum, so that ten times ten is called a hundred, and twenty times twenty four hundred, and a hundred times a hundred ten thousand, and a thousand times a thousand a million, that you may recognize that every number exists through the one just as it proceeds from the one. Moreover, it is evident that the end of number, which is absolutely none, cannot be reached, because beyond every number, which exists from the one and through the one and in the one, the one always remains. Yet these three are—when we say from the one and through the one and in the one—equally eternal, equally omnipresent in their entirety, always equal to the same infinite, because no true one is greater or lesser than another. These are the beginnings, the guides, and the completions of numbers: they themselves are neither begun nor numbered nor finished, I believe, because the wisdom of God has no number. For since number exists from the one and through the one and in the one, and can be numbered only in a threefold manner, so that through the same number we begin, count, and finish, the entire ternary itself is that through which every number exists.
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ecce quod habitat in anima humana: ecce quod oculo cordis uidere concessum est. quo diffugimus, quo distrahimur, cur in nobismet ipsis extra nos sumus? cur patriam nostram localiter quaerimus, de qua utique non ambulando, sed peccando discessimus? cur tenebras splendere credimus, quas uidere ipsum est utique non uidere? ueritatem certe quaerimus: non illam per spatia locorum oportere quaeri, non per corporeum aliquid aestimes inueniri..satis ei corpore non solum tangendo, sed etiam cogitando se separabit qui huic adhaerebit. inlocale certe quaerimus, non illud quaeso per locale quaeramus. fecit sibi ipsa ueritas sui compotem similitudinem. hoc in nobis adferamus illi quod fecit, non conuiciemur deum nostrum dicentes illi: non potuisti facere aliquid simile tui, quia, si corpus sum, similis tui non sum, quia de nobismet ipsis nos ille conuincet.
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Behold what dwells in the human soul: behold what has been granted to the eye of the heart to see. Whither do we flee, whither are we distracted, why are we outside ourselves within ourselves? Why do we seek our homeland locally, from which we certainly departed not by walking, but by sinning? Why do we believe that darkness shines, which to see is itself assuredly not to see? We seek truth, certainly: that it ought not to be sought through spaces of places, do not suppose that it is discovered through anything corporeal. He who will cling to it will separate himself from the body not only by touching but even by thinking. We seek something non-local, certainly: let us not, I pray, seek it through the local. Truth itself has made a likeness of itself, capable of itself. Let us bring to it that which it has made in us; let us not revile our God, saying to him: you could not make anything like yourself, because, if I am a body, I am not like you, because he will convict us concerning ourselves.
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XXVI. SECRETA DEI LOCVTIO AD ANIMAM, QVALITER SE DEBEAT SCISCITARI.
Loquitur enim silentio mihi ueritas et dicit mihi: tu certe qui corpus esse te credis, unde incorporeo uerbo uteris? aliud credo est uerbum tuum, id est consilium tuum, aliud uox uerbi, aliud quod sonat, aliud quod intellegitur. nam sicut uox potest esse sine uerbo, ita est uerbum sine uoce. utitur tamen quodam indumento uocis uerbum tuum, ut insonet auribus, sicut ego indumento carnis, ut uiderer hominibus, et cum loqueris, obsequium uocis aurem tenus meat, uerbum uero inlocaliter ad animam permeat, quia, sicut ad illum cui loqueris accedit, ita a te utique non recedit, et si loquentem te unus audierit, totum uerbum tuum penes te est, totum penes illum, et si duo audierint, totum audiunt, et si multi, totum, et omnibus totum et singulis totum et tibi totum est noli in te perdere tam magnum munus meum, similitudinem meam, quam tibi benignissime tribui, ut qualiter ad me tenderes, non extra te quaereres. nemo uenit adpatrem, nisi per me, et nemo ad me, nisi quem pater meus adtraxerit, et nemo ad me uel ad patrem uenit, nisi caritas diffundatur in corde eius per spiritum sanctum, qui non nisi bene credenti, bene speranti et bene quaerenti dabitur. ad istam, quod unus deus sumus, tu homo factus es trinitatem, cum dictum est: faciamus hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem nostram.
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CHAPTER 26. THE SECRET SPEECH OF GOD TO THE SOUL: HOW IT OUGHT TO INQUIRE OF ITSELF.
For truth speaks to me in silence and says to me: you, who certainly believe yourself to be a body, whence do you employ an incorporeal word? I believe your word, that is, your thought, is one thing; the voice of the word is another; what sounds is one thing, what is understood is another. For just as a voice can exist without a word, so a word exists without a voice. Yet your word uses a certain garment of voice to sound in the ears, just as I use a garment of flesh to be seen by men; and when you speak, the service of the voice reaches only as far as the ear, but the word passes locally to the soul, because, just as it approaches the one to whom you speak, so it certainly does not depart from you; and if one person hears you speaking, your whole word is with you, whole with him; and if two hear, they hear the whole; and if many, the whole; and to all it is whole, and to each it is whole, and to you it is whole. Do not lose within yourself so great a gift of mine, my likeness, which I most kindly bestowed upon you, so that you might not seek outside yourself how to direct yourself toward me. No one comes to the Father except through me, and no one comes to me except whom my Father has drawn; and no one comes to me or to the Father unless love is diffused in his heart through the Holy Spirit, which will be given only to one who believes well, hopes well, and seeks well. To that end, that we are one God, you, a man, have been made a Trinity, when it was said: Let us make man in our image and likeness.
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introinspice te de te ipsa, o humana anima, et te memineris. uide mentem tuam, uide uerbum tuum, uide uoluntatem tuam. nam totum est in mente quod cogitas, et quod totum simul meministi, totum simul cogitas et uis cogitare atque meminisse, hoc est, amas habere mentem et cogitationem. cogitationem ergo tuam cum mente conplecteris, hoc est, cum cogitare te memineris, totam certe cogitationem tuam tota mente conprehendis et totum amorem tuum uel mentem tuam tota cogitatione tua cogitas, cum amare uel meminisse te cogitas, et toto amore tuo eandem totam mentem atque eandem totam cogitationem tuam diligis, cum meminisse et cogitare te diligis. nullus est tamen, qui meminisse et cogitare et hoc ipsum amare non diligat: cum autem tibi in mente est cogitationis et amoris tui, si tanta illa meministi quanta sunt, tanta est mens tua quanta sunt illa, et cum dilectionem uel mentem tuam cogitas, si tanta ea quanta sunt cogitas, tanta est cogitatio tua quanta illa sunt, et si mentem uel cogitationem tuam pro sui modo diligis, haec et amor tuus aequalia certe sunt, et si se singula tota simul uel ament uel cogitent uel meminerint, non maiora erant tota simul tria, quam uel mens tota pariter recolens uel cogitatio tota cognoscens uel amor tota diligens. haec et in te esse ac potius ista te esse me tibi radiante cognosces, si illos mihi oculos quibus me uideri dignor adtuleris.
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Look into yourself concerning yourself, O human soul, and remember yourself. See your mind, see your word, see your will. For everything you think is in the mind, and what you have remembered all at once, you think all at once and you wish to think and remember, that is, you love to have mind and thought. Therefore, you embrace your thought with your mind, that is, when you remember that you think, you certainly comprehend your whole thought with your whole mind, and you think your whole love or your whole mind with your whole thought, when you think that you love or remember, and with your whole love you love that same whole mind and that same whole thought of yours, when you love to remember and think. Yet there is no one who does not love to remember and think and this very loving itself; but when you have in mind your thought and your love, if you have remembered them as great as they are, your mind is as great as they are, and when you think your love or your mind, if you think them as great as they are, your thought is as great as they are, and if you love your mind or your thought according to their mode, these and your love are certainly equal, and if each single one loves or thinks or remembers itself wholly at once, the three together were not greater when wholly at once than either the whole mind recollecting, or the whole thought knowing, or the whole love loving. You will recognize that these are in you, and rather that you are these, by my shining upon you, if you bring to me those eyes with which I deign to be seen.
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nequaquam me uel incorporeus nisi purgatus uidet, quo minus uideri me a te putes posse, si corpus es? ego et pater et caritas nostra unus deus sumus: tu, mens rationalis et uerbum uel dilectio tua unus es homo ad similitudinem auctoris tui factus, non ad aequalitatem, creatus nempe, non genitus, formatus es ipse, non formator. recede ab his quae infra te sunt minus utique formata, hoc est minus formosa quam tu es, accede formatrici formae, quo possis esse formosior, eidemque semper adiungere, quia. tanto ab illa speciei amplius capies, quanto te illi caritatis pondere magis inpresseris: ab illa scilicet obtinebis imaginis huius indemutabilem statum, a qua sumpsisti principium. haec et talia loquitur ueritas ad aurem cordis intrinsecus admonens nos, ut quoniam ad similitudinem incorporei dei, non ad similitudinem corporei mundi facti sumus, incorporeos nos esse noscamus non solum quia deo incorporeo similes sumus, sed etiam quia corporeo mundo dissimiles. '
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By no means can I, even as incorporeal, be seen except by one who is purified, so how can you think that I can be seen by you, if you are a body? I and the Father and our love are one God: you, a rational mind and your word or your love, are one human being made in the likeness of your author, not in equality; you are created, certainly, not begotten; you yourself are formed, not the former. Withdraw from those things that are below you, which are less formed, that is, less beautiful than you are; approach the formative form, so that you may be more beautiful, and always join yourself to it, because you will receive more of that beauty the more you press yourself upon it with the weight of love; from it, indeed, you will obtain the unchangeable state of this image, from which you took your beginning. These and such things truth speaks to the ear of the heart within, admonishing us that, since we are made in the likeness of the incorporeal God, not in the likeness of the corporeal world, we should recognize that we are incorporeal, not only because we are like the incorporeal God, but also because we are unlike the corporeal world.
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XXVII. QVOD ANIMA CARO SVO ABSENTE ETIAM CORPORE SPIRITV PRAESENS POTERIT ESSE.
Ecce de statu uel uisione rationalis animae infinitarum pro quaestionis magnitudine rationum tactis breuiter potius causis quam satis usque discussis arbitror me de inlocalitate atque incorporalitate animae sufficiens dedisse responsum. tu nunc ita longe disparilem infraque positam euidenter intellegens corpoream uisionem non ulterius isto iacteris incerto, ut si carum tuum, sicut ipse dicis, absentem cogitas, idcirco eundem quia tibi corporaliter non adparet credas absentem, quia si tibi in illa sui parte carus est, qua uterque homines estis et qua uosmet uicario amore diligitis, ita tibi ille praesens est, ut tu ipse tibi. quidquid enim tu es substantialiter, hoc ille est. uisio uero intellectus est animae: si te uides, illum uides qui nihil est aliud quam tu, qui si corporaliter adsisteret, per signa certe corporis agnitionem sui tibi faceret. per quae si illud forte cepisses indicium, quo eundem tibi inimicum potius esse cognosceres, reuerberata utique adfectuum disparilitate anima tua ab eius anima quodam modo resiliret, et in uno corporaliter loco atque in eodem, si potest dici, uestigio satis scilicet essetis uoluntatum diuersitate seiuncti. quod cum ita sit, non arbitror animos sequestratione disici, quos uidemus iunctis corporibus posse separari.
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CHAPTER 27: THAT THE SOUL CAN BE PRESENT IN SPIRIT EVEN WHEN ITS OWN FLESH IS ABSENT AND THE BODY IS AWAY.
Behold, concerning the state or vision of the rational soul, having touched briefly upon infinite reasons proportionate to the magnitude of the question rather than having discussed them sufficiently, I consider that I have given an adequate response regarding the non-locality and incorporeality of the soul. Now you, clearly understanding yourself to be placed so far beneath and unequal, should no longer boast of this uncertain bodily vision, so that if you think of your dear one, as you yourself say, as absent, you do not believe him absent for that reason because he does not appear to you bodily, because if he is dear to you in that part of himself in which you both are men and in which you love each other with vicarious love, then he is as present to you as you are to yourself. For whatever you are substantially, that he is. Vision, indeed, is the understanding of the soul: if you see yourself, you see him who is nothing other than you, who, if he were present bodily, would make his recognition known to you through the signs of the body. Through which, if you had perhaps grasped that indication by which you would recognize that the same person was rather an enemy to you, then your soul, repelled by the disparity of affections, would in a certain way recoil from his soul, and you would be in one bodily place and in the same, if it can be said, footprint, sufficiently separated by the diversity of wills. Since this is so, I do not think that souls are torn apart by separation, whom we see can be separated even when bodies are joined.
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ac perinde parum est, quod officiunt corpora mutuis animorum repraesentationibus, si non aut per eadem in se imago dei quaeratur aut ipsa quaerantur. miserum namque est multumque uero contrarium, ut imago dei, id est uerus homo per corpus potius quam per se quaeratur. per se autem quaeritur atque agnoscitur, si per imaginem dei quaeritur, imago autem dei omnis anima rationalis est, proinde qui in se imaginem dei quaerit, tam se quam proximum quaerit, et qui illam in se quaerendo cognouerit, in omni eandem homine recognoscit. tu autem non inmerito carum tuum absentem te habere causaris, in quo corpus diligis, nec aliud quam corpus diligere in illo potes, quem non credis esse nisi corpus. dilige deum tuum, dilige in deo tuo carum tuum, imaginem dei tui. ille te perinde diligendo deum in deo diligat. si uterque unum' quaeritis, ad unum tenditis, semper apud inuicem eritis, quia in uno consistitis. non autem uideo quod fieri queat, ut corpora in unum posita praesentia sibi esse possint et animi in uno praesentes sibi esse non possint. sed quoniam liber iste finem flagitat eo quod aliquibus superficie tenus adtactis, quamlibet multa breuitatis studio omissa fecerim, non tamen omnibus pro causae excellentia supersedi, quae post hinc disputanda sunt, principio secundi uoluminis ordiamur.
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And so it is of little account that bodies obstruct the mutual representations of souls, if not through them the image of God is sought in oneself, or they themselves are sought. For it is wretched and greatly contrary to truth that the image of God, that is, the true human, be sought through the body rather than through itself. But it is sought and recognized through itself if it is sought through the image of God; and the image of God is every rational soul. Therefore, whoever seeks the image of God in himself seeks both himself and his neighbor, and whoever has recognized it by seeking it in himself recognizes the same in every human. But you not undeservedly complain that your dear one, being absent, is not with you, you who love the body in him, and you can love nothing other than the body in him, whom you believe to be nothing but a body. Love your God; love in your God your dear one, the image of your God. Let him, in turn, by loving God, love God in you. If you both seek the one, you both tend toward the one, you will always be with each other, because you consist in the one. But I do not see how it can happen that bodies placed together can be present to each other, and minds present in the one cannot be present to each other. But since this book demands an end, because, having touched upon some things only superficially, although I have omitted many things for the sake of brevity, I have not, however, omitted everything for the excellence of the cause; those things which are to be discussed after this, let us begin the principle of the second volume.
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CLAVDIANI MAMERTI DE STATV ANIMAE: LIBER SECVNDVS.
I. QVIA OMNIA CONTRARIORVM CONPARATIONE FACILIVS DINOSCVNTVR.
Saepenumero mecum reputanti mihi, quonam pacto excellentissima ueritas tantum inimicorum semet habere siuerit, post multum de hac eadem quaestione tractatum non inprobabilis ratio, sicuti reor, adparuit: omnia scilicet dinoscuntur melius contrariorum conparatione. sic equidem lumen tenebris, sic uita morti, sic ueritas falsitati conposita plus delectat oportuit igitur hasce distantias pro suis qualitatibus sibi compotes sortiri patronos, ut nec falsi lateret defensor nec ueri uacaret adsertor itaque fieret, ut nec ille magis noceret occultus, nec otiosus iste torperet.
II. QVO MODO PHILOSOPHI MVNDI INDAGAVERINT VERITATEM GRADATIMQVE AD DEVM VSQVE PERVENERINT.
Et quoniam mortalium generi natura datum est ut abstrusa fortius quaerat, ut negata magis ambiat, ut tardius adepta plus diligat, eo flagrantius ametur ueritas quo uel diutius desideratur uel laboriosius quaeritur uel tardius inuenitur, hinc factum est ut philosophi quoque excellentibus ingeniis, multimodis doctrinis, pugnantibus sententiis, longis saeculis de eadem ueritate quaerentes ab usque Pythagora Italico uel Ionico Thalete semper exstiterint, qui dissidentibus aliis uel in parte operis aliquid dignum tanta indage sentirent.
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Often have I pondered with myself by what means the most excellent truth has allowed itself to have so many enemies; after much discussion of this same question, a not improbable reason, as I think, has appeared: all things are better discerned by comparison of contraries. Thus light is more pleasing when set against darkness, life against death, truth against falsehood. It was therefore fitting that these opposites should, according to their qualities, obtain suitable champions, so that neither the defender of falsehood might lie hidden, nor the advocate of truth be idle. And so it would come about that neither would the concealed one do more harm, nor the idle one grow sluggish.
II. HOW THE PHILOSOPHERS SOUGHT OUT THE TRUTH OF THE WORLD AND GRADUALLY ARRIVED AT GOD.
And since it is given to the race of mortals by nature to seek the hidden more eagerly, to desire the denied more ardently, to love the slowly attained more deeply, truth is loved all the more passionately the longer it is desired, the more laboriously sought, or the more slowly found. Hence it has come about that philosophers also, with their excellent talents, manifold teachings, conflicting opinions, and over long ages, seeking after the same truth from as far back as the Italian Pythagoras or the Ionian Thales, have always existed, who, while others disagreed, perceived something worthy of such an inquiry, at least in part of their work.
Citation. Tergwame, “De Statu Animae”, stoa0089a.stoa001.opp-lat1:1, machine-draft, 2026. https://naxiai.com/christian/works/stoa0089a.stoa001.opp-lat1#s1
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