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Contra Cresconium

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Contra Cresconium is a Latin polemical work by Augustine of Hippo, written around 406–407 CE in response to a defense of Donatism by the layman Cresconius. Structured in four books, it refutes Cresconius’s letter point by point, focusing on the Donatist practice of rebaptism and the legitimacy of the Catholic Church. The work survives only in medieval manuscripts (9th–10th centuries) and was cited by later canonists and controversialists, though it never attained the prominence of Augustine’s anti-Pelagian writings. It must be used cautiously as a source for Donatist theology, since Augustine often paraphrases or excerpts Donatist texts for polemical effect.

Contra Cresconium is a key witness to Augustine’s anti-Donatist polemic and the theological arguments over rebaptism and church unity. It illustrates the Donatist emphasis on lay intellectual engagement and Augustine’s method of refuting opponents through scriptural and conciliar authority. The work also influenced medieval canon law and later Catholic apologetics, though its fragmentary manuscript tradition and polemical framing require careful handling.

Historical context

Augustine composed Contra Cresconium in North Africa c. 406–407, during the height of the Donatist controversy. The work follows his earlier Contra litteras Petiliani and responds to Cresconius, a Donatist layman who had defended Petilianus’s attack on Catholic practice. The Donatist schism, rooted in the Diocletianic persecution, rejected the validity of sacraments administered by traditores (those who had surrendered scriptures). Rebaptism of converts from Catholicism was a central issue. Augustine’s polemic employs forensic rhetoric, scripture, and conciliar appeals. The text survives only in medieval copies (9th–10th centuries), with no complete ancient codex. Its transmission was limited compared to Augustine’s major works, though it was used by medieval canonists like Gratian and later Catholic controversialists against Donatist and Protestant positions.

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  • scripture1 scriptural phrase match(es) noted: John 4:10.
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Hic et tu responde, si tibi placet ueri aliquid respondere. et quomodo implebitur quod scriptum est: filius malus ipse se iustum dicit, exitum autem suum non abluit? coarguat filium malum, Maximianenses damnet et persequatur, damnatis et persecutis reconcilietur: uel sic conuincatur, uel sic confundatur, uel sic corrigatur. quomodo, inquis, totus orbis communione uestra plenus est, ubi tam multae sunt haereses, quarum uobis nulla communicat? immo non tantum haereticis, uerum etiam ceteris hominibus malis plenus est orbis et sanctis ac fidelibus dei seruis plenus est orbis, quia et mare plenum est amaris fluctibus, plenum est et dulcibus piscibus. In paucis, inquis, frequenter est ueritas, errare multorum est, et ne uerbis tuis tantae illius sterilis fecunditati. contradicere uidereris, cui dictum est: multi filii desertae magis quam eius quae habet uirum, adhibuisti ex euangelio testimonium: quoniam pauci sunt qui saluantur. solue ergo quaestionem, quomodo ipse dominus dicat: quam arta et angusta est uia quae ducit ad uitam, et pauci sunt qui inueniunt eam, et idem ipse alibi dicat: multi ab oriente et occidente uenient et recumbent cum Abraham et Isaac et lacob in regno caelorum, quomodo etiam in Apocalypsi demonstratur eorum multitudo, quam numerare nemo potest, ex omni gente et tribu et lingua.
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Here you must answer, if you are willing to answer anything true. And how will what is written be fulfilled: "A bad son calls himself just, but does not wash away his own end"? Let him convict the bad son, let the Maximianists condemn and persecute, let them be reconciled to those condemned and persecuted: let him be thus refuted, or thus confounded, or thus corrected. How, you ask, is the whole world full of your communion, when there are so many heresies, none of which communicates with you? On the contrary, the world is full not only of heretics, but also of other evil men, and the world is full of holy and faithful servants of God, just as the sea is full of bitter waves and also full of sweet fish. In a few, you say, truth is often found; to err is the lot of many. And lest you seem to contradict your own words about that great sterile fecundity, to which it was said: "Many are the sons of the deserted woman rather than of the one who has a husband," you have adduced testimony from the Gospel: "Because few are saved." Therefore solve the question: how does the Lord himself say: "How narrow and strait is the way that leads to life, and few are those who find it," and yet the same Lord says elsewhere: "Many from the east and west will come and recline with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven"? How also in the Apocalypse is shown a multitude of them, which no one can number, from every nation, tribe, and tongue?
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habentium stolas albas palmasque ferentium, qui pressuras propter fidem Christi sustinuerant, quomodo idem sint pauci qui multi. neque enim alterum horum est uerum, alterum falsum, cum sit utrumque diuina ueritate prolatum, nisi quia idem ipsi boni uerique christiani, qui per se ipsos multi sunt, in conparatione malorum falsorumque itidem pauci sunt. sic multa grana, quibus horrea magna conplentur, pauca dicimus in comparatione palearum, sic etiam — ut de ipso dei testamento dicam, quod factum est ad Abraham de semine eius, quod est Christus — multas stellas, quas numerare non possumus, e quibus tam grande caelum undique circumfulget, paucas dicimus in comparatione harenae maris. forte stellae significauerint spiritales christianos, maris autem harena carnales, per quos et ex quibus etiam haereses et schismata fiunt, utroque tamen genere plenus est mundus, quia idem dominus dicit: ager est hic mundus et tu ipse tibi ueritate extorquente dixisti: in nomen Christi totus cotidie uertitur mundus. per totum igitur agrum, hoc est per totum mundum frumenta, per totum zizania, quia de utroque dixit qui falli non potest: sinite utraque crescere usque ad messem.
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of those who wear white robes and carry palms, who endured persecution for the sake of Christ’s faith, how the same ones are both few and many. For neither of these statements is true and the other false, since both are uttered by divine truth, except that the same good and true Christians, who are many in themselves, are likewise few in comparison with the evil and false. Thus we say that many grains, with which great granaries are filled, are few in comparison with the chaff; and likewise—to speak of the very testament of God, which was made to Abraham concerning his seed, which is Christ—we say that many stars, which we cannot count, with which so great a heaven gleams on all sides, are few in comparison with the sand of the sea. Perhaps the stars signify spiritual Christians, but the sand of the sea carnal ones, through whom and from whom even heresies and schisms arise; yet the world is full of both kinds, because the same Lord says: “This world is a field,” and you yourself, with truth wringing it from you, said: “The whole world is daily turning to the name of Christ.” Therefore throughout the whole field, that is, throughout the whole world, there are grains, throughout the whole world there are tares, because He who cannot be deceived said of both: “Let both grow together until the harvest.
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Cohibeant itaque se frumentorum per totum mundum tanta ubertate crescentium impii desertores et non audeant de quorundam zizaniorum separatorum paucitate gloriari. quodsi gloriantur, etiam in hoc ipso procedunt aduersus eos idem illi Maximianenses in iudicio diuino ad eos in omnibus confundendos et si sapiant corrigendos appositi, quos multo pauciores praefidentia multitudinis suae persecuti sunt et persequendo ad suam communionem aliquos eorum denuo conuerterunt ac sic ceteros iustissimos quo paucissimos reliquerunt. Non, inquis, communicat oriens Africae nec Africa orienti. non sane, sed in paleis haereticis ab area dominica separatis; in frumentis autem catholicis et interioribus paleis omnino communicat oriens Africae et Africa orienti. alii quippe hic, alii uero alibi atque alibi haeretici cum diffusa ubique catholica unitate confligunt. ubique est enim illa, de qua exierunt qui esse ubique minime potuerunt, dicentes secundum id quod de illis praedictum est: ecce hic est Christus, ecce illic, alii hoc loco, alio alii suarum praesumptionum uel potius amputationum proprias particulas ostendentes atque impia superbia radicem unde fracti sunt abnegantes.
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Let them therefore restrain themselves, the impious deserters, in the face of such great abundance of grain growing throughout the whole world, and let them not boast about the fewness of certain separated tares. But if they do boast, even in this very matter those same Maximianists proceed against them in divine judgment, set in place to confound them in everything and, if they are wise, to correct them—those Maximianists whom, far fewer in number, they persecuted with the confidence of their own multitude, and by persecuting converted some of them back to their communion, and thus left the others, most righteous, as very few indeed. You say, "The East does not communicate with Africa, nor Africa with the East." Not indeed, but in the heretical tares separated from the Lord's threshing-floor; in the Catholic grains, however, and the inner chaff, the East does communicate with Africa and Africa with the East. For different heretics here, and different ones elsewhere and elsewhere, contend with the Catholic unity diffused everywhere. For everywhere is that unity from which those have gone out who could not possibly be everywhere, saying, according to what was predicted about them: "Behold, here is Christ; behold, there; some in this place, others in that," showing their own little particles of their presumptions or rather amputations, and with impious pride denying the root from which they were broken off.
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huic ergo ecclesiae, quae copiosis successibus, cum dilatatur toto orbe terrarum, ex omni gente, tribu et lingua parit multitudinem candidatorum et palmatorum, sicut in Apocalypsi scriptum est, quam numerare nemo potest, huic, inquam, ecclesiae, cui partem Donati non communicare manifestum est, maiores uestri probare debuerunt quaecumque uera documenta de traditoribus habuerunt. quod si fecissent, ipsi in illa essent, extra illam uero illi quos accusassent. nunc autem cum accusatos in illa permansisse uideamus, quid boni de accusatoribus sentire debemus, quos extra illam uidemus? ac per hoc in illa mea quadripertita distributione, ubi dixi, cum de traditoribus proferuntur ex utraque parte documenta, aut utraque uera esse aut utraque falsa aut nostra uera et uestra falsa aut nostra falsa et uestra uera, cum uideres in superioribus tribus uos facillime superari, frustra tibi hoc extremum quasi qua euaderes elegisti. quamuis enim quam inpudenter dicatur aduertas, tamen ea ipsa uera uestra si qua essent humana documenta, illi ecclesiae probari debuerunt, quam probant documenta diuina.
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To this Church, therefore, which with abundant successes, as it spreads throughout the whole world, from every nation, tribe, and tongue brings forth a multitude of candidates and palm-bearers, as is written in the Apocalypse, which no one can number—to this Church, I say, with which the Donatist party manifestly does not communicate, your forebears ought to have proved whatever true records they had concerning the traditors. If they had done so, they themselves would be in that Church, while those whom they had accused would be outside it. But as it is, since we see that the accused remained in that Church, what good are we to think of the accusers, whom we see outside it? And thus in that fourfold division of mine, where I said, when records concerning the traditors are produced on both sides, either both are true, or both are false, or ours are true and yours false, or ours are false and yours true—since you see that in the first three cases you are most easily defeated, you have vainly chosen this last as if it were a way of escape for you. For although you should note how shamelessly it is said, yet even if those human records of yours were true, they ought to have been proved to that Church which is proved by divine records.
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Dic mihi, obsecro te — sed noli offundere nebulas imperitis, ut, quoniam traditores accusatos non uales conuincere, identidem uelis artes dialecticas accusare —, dic ergo, rogo te, causa ista uestra cum ueris documentis uestris perducta est ad iudicium transmarinarum ecclesiarum labore apostolico fundatarum an non est perducta? si perducta est, uicistis in eo iudicio an uicti estis? si uicisse uos dicitis, cur eis ecclesiis, in quarum iudicio uicistis, non eommunicastis? si autem, quod satis ipsa indicat ab eis alienata uestra communio, uicti estis, quid nobiscum uel mala uel bona causa perdita litigatis, id habentes maximum crimen, quod crimine traditorum, quos in iudicio transmarinarum ecclesiarum etiam uera documenta proferentes conuincere minime potuistis, orbem christianum perfunditis, quia in ea causa, in qua interesse non potuit, elegit iudicibus credere, non accusatoribus uictis?
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Tell me, I beseech you—but do not cast a fog over the unskilled, so that, since you cannot convict the accused traitors, you may again wish to accuse the dialectical arts—tell me, therefore, I ask you, has this case of yours, with your true documents, been brought to the judgment of the transmarine churches founded by apostolic labor, or has it not been brought? If it has been brought, did you win in that judgment or were you defeated? If you say you won, why did you not communicate with those churches in whose judgment you won? If, however—and your communion, alienated from them, itself sufficiently indicates this—you were defeated, why do you litigate with us over a lost case, whether good or bad, holding as your greatest crime that you drench the Christian world with the crime of the traitors, whom you were utterly unable to convict in the judgment of the transmarine churches even when producing true documents, because in that case, in which it could not take part, the world chose to believe the judges, not the defeated accusers?
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non itaque ideo rei estis, quia bonam causam, ut secundum uos loquar, in transmarino iudicio perdidistis, sed quia crimen reorum atque - ut nimium nobis cedatur—et iudicum tot innocentibus populis christianis per tot gentes longe lateque diffusis obicere minime dubitatis; quorum communioni tamquam frumentis dominicis cohaerendo et illos uiros, sicut dicitis, traditores et illos malos, sicut arbitramini, iudices secundum euan gelicas litteras etiam monente Cypriano usque ad tempus uentilationis tamquam paleam tolerare debuistis, ne aream deserendo periretis. si autem causa illa uestra cum ueris, quod tibi elegisti, documentis suis ad iudicium transmarinarum ecclesiarum non est perducta, quomodo ab eis potuerunt tot episcopi in suis plebibus constituti causa incognita et ad se omnino non delata iure damnari? aut quomodo debuerunt Afri christiani, non dico illi, qui eos putauerant innocentes, uerum etiam illi, si qui eos nouerant traditores, propter zizania, quae in ecclesia esse cernebant, a frumentorum tam longe lateque crescentium et hos ignorantium tam manifesta innocentia (se) separare, ut propter crimen alienum, quo pro unitate tolerato non macularentur, uiolatae ipsius unitatis crimine damnarentur?
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You are not, therefore, guilty because you lost a good case, as you would put it, in a transmarine court, but because you do not hesitate to charge the crime of the guilty—and, to yield to you excessively, even of the judges—against so many innocent Christian peoples spread far and wide through so many nations; to whose communion, like the Lord's grain, you ought to have clung, and, as you say, those men who were traditores and those whom you consider bad judges, according to the evangelical scriptures and with Cyprian even warning, you ought to have tolerated like chaff until the time of winnowing, lest by abandoning the threshing-floor you should perish. But if that case of yours, with its true documents, which you yourself have chosen, was not brought to the judgment of the transmarine churches, how could so many bishops established in their own congregations have been lawfully condemned by them on a case unknown and not at all referred to them? Or how ought African Christians—I do not say those who thought them innocent, but even those who knew them to be traditores—because of the tares which they saw in the Church, to separate themselves from the manifest innocence of the grains growing so far and wide and ignorant of these things, so that, not stained by another's crime which they tolerated for the sake of unity, they should be condemned by the crime of violated unity itself?
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Quid tibi ergo ad causam prodest hoc ex illis quattuor propositis elegisse, ut uestra documenta sint uera, contra uestros autem quae proferimus falsa esse deputentur? ecce et hic uinceris, quoniam ueris quae putas documentis tuis non potuerunt ubi debuerunt conuinci traditores, siue a uestris eadem documenta occultata sint siue ipsi traditores qualibet astutia se iudicibus occultauerint siue ab ipsis prauis iudicibus occultati sint. semen Abrahae respice, quod in testamento dei per omnes gentes crescit sicut stellae caeli et sicut arena maris, et utrum propter occultata quibuslibet causis nescio qua Africana zizania tam copiosa messis per agrum mundum perire potuerit aude dicere, aude credere, aude, si ullus in te dei timor est, cogitare. Exaggeras persecutiones quas uos pati dicitis, quibus in tam sacrilega et manifesta obstinatione aduersus pacem sanctae ecclesiae rebellantibus mirabili mansuetudine parcitur, et dicis in primis partibus epistulae tuae, quod imperatori Constantino Caeciliani crimen cum fieret manifestum, ipse quoque eum ut Brixae in exilio degeret sua sententia condemnauit. in quo te quis dubitet uel falli uel fallere, quando et Felicem Aptugnensem commemorasti in iudicio proconsulis ab Ingentio nescio quo de traditione conuictum?
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What, then, does it profit you for the case to have chosen this from among those four propositions, that your documents are true, but those we bring forward against you are deemed false? Behold, even here you are defeated, because with your true, as you think, documents, the traditores could not be convicted where they ought to have been, whether those same documents were concealed by your people, or the traditores themselves hid from the judges by some cunning, or they were hidden by the corrupt judges themselves. Look at the seed of Abraham, which in the testament of God grows among all peoples like the stars of the sky and like the sand of the sea, and dare to say, dare to believe, dare, if there is any fear of God in you, to think whether so abundant a harvest throughout the whole world could perish because of some African tares hidden for whatever reasons. You exaggerate the persecutions which you say you suffer, you who, in such sacrilegious and manifest obstinacy against the peace of the holy Church, are spared with wonderful leniency while rebelling, and you say in the first parts of your letter that the Emperor Constantine, when the crime of Caecilian became manifest, also condemned him by his own sentence to live in exile at Brixa. In this, who would doubt that you are either deceived or deceiving, when you also mentioned that Felix of Aptunga was convicted of tradition by some Ingenuus in the proconsul's court?
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Ecce ego insero sententiam Aeliani proconsulis, qua purgatus atque absolutus est Felix. si tota gesta uis legere, ex archiuo proconsulis accipe. Aelianus pro consule dixit: ex professione Caeciliani, qui acta falsa esse dicit atque epistulae plurima addita, manifestum est qua uoluntate haec gesserit Ingentius, et ideo recipietur in carcerem; est enim artiori interrogationi necessarius. Felicem autem religiosum episcopum liberum esse ab exustione instrumentorum deificorum manifestum est, cum nemo in eum aliquid probare potuerit, quod religiosas scripturas tradiderit uel exusserit. omnium enim interrogatio supra scriptorum manifesta est nullas scripturas deificas uel inuentas uel corruptas uel incensas fuisse. hoc actis continetur, quod Felix episcopus religiosus illis temporibus nec praesens fuerit neque conscientiam commodauerit neque tale aliquid fieri iusserit.
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Behold, I insert the sentence of the proconsul Aelianus, by which Felix was cleared and acquitted. If you wish to read the whole proceedings, take them from the proconsul’s archive. Aelianus the proconsul said: From the declaration of Caecilianus, who says that the acts are false and that many things have been added to the letter, it is clear with what intention Ingentius did this, and therefore he will be received into prison; for he is necessary for a stricter interrogation. But that Felix, a religious bishop, is free from the burning of divine instruments is manifest, since no one has been able to prove anything against him, that he handed over or burned religious scriptures. For the interrogation of all those written above makes it manifest that no divine scriptures were either found, or corrupted, or burned. This is contained in the proceedings: that Felix, a religious bishop, in those times was neither present, nor lent his conscience, nor ordered any such thing to be done.
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Insero etiam rescriptum imperatoris Constantini ad Probianum id ipsum attestantis et quam molesti apud eum maiores uestri accusatores innocentium fuerint ostendentis. Imperatores Caesares Flauii Constantinus et Maximinus et Ualerius Licinianus Licinius ad Probianum proconsulem Africae. Aelianus prodecessor tuus merito, cum de perfectissimis Uerus uicarius praefectorum tunc per Africam nostram incommoda ualetudine teneretur, eiusdem partibus functus inter cetera etiam id negotium uel inuidiam, quae Caeciliano episcopo et ecclesiae catholicae uidetur esse commota, ad examen suum atque iussionem credidit esse reuocandam. etenim cum iam Superium centurionem et Caecilianum magistratum Aptugnitanorum et Saturninum ex curatore et Calibium iuniorem eiusdem ciuitatis curatorem atque Solum seruum publicum supra scriptae ciuitatis praesentes esse fecisset, audientiam praebuit conpetentem, adeo ut, cum Caeciliano fuisset obiectum, quod a Felice eidem episcopatus uideretur esse delatus, cui diuinaJ.:um scripturarum proditio atque exustio uideretur obiecta, innocentem de eo Felicem fuisse constiterit. denique cum Maximus Ingentium decurionem Ziquensium ciuitatis epistulam Caeciliani ex duumuiris falsasse contenderet, et eundem ipsum Ingentium suspensum actis quae suberant peruidimus et ideo minime tortum, quod se decurionem Ziquensium ciuitatis esse adseuerauerit.
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I also insert the rescript of the Emperor Constantine to Probianus, attesting to the same thing and showing how troublesome the accusers of innocent men, your predecessors, were to him. The Emperors Caesars Flavius Constantinus and Maximinus and Valerius Licinianus Licinius to Probianus, proconsul of Africa. Your predecessor Aelianus rightly, when Verus, the deputy of the prefects, was then detained in our Africa by ill health, and he was performing the functions of the same, among other things also referred this case or ill-will, which seems to have been stirred up against Caecilianus, bishop of the Catholic church, to his own examination and order. For when he had already caused Superius the centurion and Caecilianus the magistrate of the Aptugnitani and Saturninus, a former curator, and Calibius the younger, curator of the same city, and Solus, a public slave of the above-written city, to be present, he provided a suitable hearing, so much so that, when it was objected against Caecilianus that the episcopate seemed to have been conferred upon him by Felix, to whom betrayal and burning of the divine scriptures seemed to have been objected, it was established that Felix was innocent concerning him. Finally, when Maximus contended that Ingentius, a decurion of the city of Ziquensis, had falsified a letter of Caecilianus from the duumvirs, we saw the same Ingentius himself suspended by the acts which were at hand, and for that reason not tortured at all, because he asserted that he was a decurion of the city of Ziquensis.
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unde uolumus eundem ipsum Ingentium sub idonea prosecutione ad comitatum meum Constantini Augusti mittas, ut illis, qui in praesentiarum agunt atque diurnis diebus interpellare non desinunt, audientibus et coram adsistentibus apparere et intimari possit frustra eos Caeciliano episcopo inuidiam conparare atque aduersus eum uiolenter insurgere uoluisse. ita enim fiet, ut omissis, sicuti oportet, eiusmodi contentionibus populus sine dissensione aliqua religioni propriae cum debita ueneratione deseruiat. Insero adhuc et uerba Constantini ex litteris eius ad Eumalium uicarium, ubi se inter partes cognouisse et innocentem Caecilianum conperisse testatur. cum enim narrasset in his, quae supra locutus est, quemadmodum ad iudicium eius post episcopalia iudicia partes perductae fuerint: in quo peruidi, inquit, Caecilianum uirum omni innocentia praeditum ac debita religionis suae officia seruantem eique ita ut oportuit seruientem, nec ullum in eo crimen repperiri potuisse euidenter apparuit, sicut absenti fuerat aduersariorum suorum simulatione conpositum.
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Therefore we desire that you send the same Ingentius himself, under suitable prosecution, to my court of Constantine Augustus, so that, with those who are presently active and do not cease to make daily appeals both hearing and being present in person, it may be made known and manifest that they have vainly sought to stir up ill will against Bishop Caecilian and to rise up violently against him. For thus it will come about that, such contentions being set aside as is proper, the people may, without any dissension, devote themselves to their own religion with due veneration. I also insert the words of Constantine from his letter to Eumalius the vicar, where he testifies that he himself judged between the parties and found Caecilian innocent. For when he had related in what he spoke above how the parties were brought to his judgment after the episcopal judgments: "In which," he says, "I perceived that Caecilian was a man endowed with all innocence and observing the due offices of his religion and serving it as was fitting, and it clearly appeared that no crime could be found in him, such as had been fabricated against him in his absence by the pretense of his adversaries.
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Tu quare non inseruisti sententiam Constantini, qua eum dicis esse damnatum et Brixae in exilio constitutum, uir disertissime? quanto congruentius hanc inseruisses quam nescio quid de Serdicensi concilio, quod nec ad uos nec ad causam, quae inter d» est et uos. omnino pertinere monstretur! cor enim fuerit Brixae Caecilianus. quod uos ealnmnio?issime appellatis? exilium. cum suam praesentiam maluit ecclesiae deesse quam pacem. quid a me opus est dici? tu interim damnantis imperatoris sententiam nullam recitas et damnatum ab imperatore Caecilianum tamen temere non dico audiendum uel dicendum, sed etiam scribendum putas. uerumtamen secundum uerba tua ecce uideo in exilio Caecilianum imperatore damnante: saltem responde quo accusante et modo me interroga, quod in epistula tua post multa (inania) similiter inane posuisti: quis prolato testamento minus consentit. qui persecutionem patitur a" qui (ar'it? haec certe uerba tua sunt. aspice ergo Caecilianum persecutionem passum et. sisut ipse dixisti. in exilio constitutum, aspice etiam uestros. sicut suis uerbis imperator ipse testatur. aduersum Caecilianum diurnis diebus interpellare non desistentes, et isdem ipsis uerbis tuis interroganti mihi responde: quis minus testamento prolato consentit, qui persecutionem patitur an qui facit?
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Why have you not inserted the decree of Constantine by which you claim he was condemned and placed in exile at Brixia, most eloquent man? How much more fitting it would have been to insert that than some unknown matter about the Council of Serdica, which is shown to have no relevance at all either to you or to the case that lies between us and you! For if it was at Brixia that Caecilianus was, as you most slanderously call it, in exile, preferring to be absent from the church rather than to disturb the peace, what need is there for me to say? In the meantime, you recite no sentence of the condemning emperor, yet you think it proper not only to hear or say, but even to write, that Caecilianus was condemned by the emperor, though I do not say this rashly. Nevertheless, according to your own words, I see Caecilianus in exile, condemned by the emperor: at least answer by whose accusation and in what manner, and question me as you did in your letter after many empty things, similarly empty, when you said: "Who, when a will is produced, is less in agreement? He who suffers persecution, or he who inflicts it?" These are certainly your words. Therefore, look at Caecilianus suffering persecution and, as you yourself said, placed in exile; look also at your own people, as the emperor himself testifies in his own words, not ceasing to make daily appeals against Caecilianus; and with those same words of yours, answer me as I question: Who, when a will is produced, is less in agreement—he who suffers persecution, or he who inflicts it?
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diligenter autem perlectis omnibus inuenies Caecilianum a uestris etiam apud imperatorem persecutionem passum. sed non inuenies ab imperatore damnatum, immo etiam inuenies absolutum. Porro si — quod tibi pro magno elegisti, ut de criminibus traditionum quae uos profertis documenta uera sint, quae autem nos proferimus falsa sint: etiam in eo uos dei ueritas superat, quae sicut praedixit ita reddit ecclesiam in uniuerso mundo fructificantem atque crescentem, quia nihil ei praeiudicant alienorum criminum licet uera documenta, quae propinquioribus episcopis transmarinis, per quos in longinquiores partes siue transit talium rerum fama siue non transit.
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But after carefully reading everything, you will find that Caecilianus also suffered persecution at the hands of your people before the emperor. Yet you will not find that he was condemned by the emperor; on the contrary, you will even find that he was acquitted. Moreover, if—as you have chosen to make much of—the documents concerning the charges of betrayal which you present are true, while those we present are false, even in this the truth of God overcomes you, for just as it foretold, so it renders the Church fruitful and growing throughout the whole world, because the true documents concerning the crimes of others do not prejudice it, even if the reputation of such matters does or does not pass to the more distant overseas bishops, through whom it might reach more remote regions.
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aut non sunt demonstrata sicut debuerunt aut non sunt credita quibus demonstrari potuerunt aut credita et occultata nequaquam ad alios peruenerunt, nec quisquam uel unus homo, quanto minus tantus christianorum numerus in tot gentibus constitutus reus potest esse participati sceleris alieni, si uel nulla eius uera documenta cognouerit uel eum simulata innocentia falsis documentis quisque fefellerit —: si ergo, ut dicere coeperam, in hoc, quod tibi pro magno elegisti, ut quae uos de traditoribus testimonia profertis uera sint, quae autem proferuntur contra uos falsa sint, nihil ualetis aduersus ecclesiam catholicam toto terrarum orbe diffusam et aduersus prouidentiam dei, qua in christianum nomen, ut tuis uerbis utar, totus cotidie uertitur mundus, quanto magis deficitis in accusationibus uestris. cum hanc ipsam traditionem, cuius nomen uelut horrentes, qui hoc schisma fecerunt, a Christi corpore separatos se ipsos diabolo tradiderunt. multo probabilius, sicut in illis litteris dixi et nunc dico, nos uobis obicimus, qui uos nomina et crimina traditorum dicere tantummodo audimus, nos autem et gesta ecclesiastica, quibus de se ipsi confessi sunt, et gesta municipalia, quibus hoc fecisse leguntur, ostendimus!
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or they were not shown as they should have been, or they were not believed by those to whom they could have been shown, or they were believed and concealed and never reached others. Nor can any single person, much less such a great number of Christians established among so many nations, be guilty of participation in another's crime, if he either knew nothing of its true evidence or was deceived by feigned innocence through false evidence. If, therefore, as I had begun to say, in this matter which you have chosen as your great point—that the testimonies you bring forward about the traditores are true, while those brought against you are false—you are of no avail against the Catholic Church spread throughout the whole world, nor against the providence of God, by which, to use your own words, the whole world daily turns to the Christian name. How much more do you fail in your accusations, since this very tradition, whose name you shrink from as if horrified, those who made this schism have separated themselves from the body of Christ and have handed themselves over to the devil. Much more plausibly, as I said in those letters and now say, we charge you, who only hear us speak the names and crimes of the traditores, while we show both the ecclesiastical records in which they confessed themselves and the municipal records in which they are recorded as having done this.
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Tu uero callidus examinator appensorque uerborum doces nos, quid ualeat conparatiuus gradus, et tamquam uictor exultas, quod non possem dicere: 'traditionem probabilius nos uobis obicimus,' nisi uos nobis eam probabiliter obicere confiterer. si enim uos, inquis, probabilius, nos ergo + probabiliter, et hoc docens: quia sic est probabiliter et probabilius, ut si dicas uere) et 'uerius' et quia gradus iste quod ante positum est auget, non quod ante dictum est inprobat. adiungis alia uerba, quibus hoc euidentius intellegamus, ac dicis: sic est bene) et melius, 'male* et *peius\\ 'horribiliter' et horribilius, sic esse ostendens probabiliter) et probabiliter). unde colligi putas, quia, si ego probabilius quod falsum est obicio, superest ut uos probabiliter quod uerum est obiecisse confirmes. hic ego numquid dico, quod in quaestione uel in disputatione ecclesiastica nos artificialia grammatica docere conaris, quid ualeat conparatiuus gradus, quia id quod ante positum est auget, non quod ante dictum est inprobat? uideo enim, quam hoc inepte tibi obiciam quod tu uidere noluisti, quando mihi anticategorian uelut ex arte rhetorica obiciendam putasti, quod genus quaestionis, ubi dicitur: 'non ego feci, sed tu fecisti), etiam in auctoritate prophetica demonstraui.
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But you, a clever examiner and weigher of words, teach us what the comparative degree means, and exult as if victorious, claiming that I could not say, "We charge you with the tradition more probably," unless I were confessing that you charge us with it probably. For if we do so more probably, you say, then you do so probably, and you teach this: because "probably" and "more probably" are related as "truly" and "more truly," and because that degree increases what was stated before, not disproves what was said earlier. You add other words by which we may understand this more clearly, and you say: just as it is "well" and "better," "badly" and "worse," "horribly" and "more horribly," so you show "probably" and "more probably." From this you think it can be inferred that, if I charge you more probably with something false, it follows that you confirm that you have charged us probably with something true. Here, do I not say that in an ecclesiastical question or dispute you are trying to teach us artificial grammatical rules, what the comparative degree means, because it increases what was stated before, not disproves what was said earlier? For I see how ineptly I would throw this back at you, which you refused to see when you thought that an anticategoria, as if from the art of rhetoric, should be thrown back at me—a type of question where it is said, "I did not do it, but you did," which I also demonstrated in prophetic authority.
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Considera tamen diligentius, ne forte inuenias in Latinae locutionis auctoribus, quibus grammaticorum artificialia seruiunt, non semper istum gradum quod ante positum est augere, sed aliquando contrario superferri. cuius locutionis exemplum interim mihi ex apostoli epistula occurrit quam scripsit ad Hebraeos. cum enim loqueretur de benedictione terrae, quae accepta pluuia fructum reddit, deinde subiecit: proferens autem spinas et tribulos reproba et maledictioni proxima est, cuius finis in ustionem. quod ne illis quibus loquebatur optasse uideretur, confisi sumus autem, inquit, de uobis, fratres carissimi, meliora et haerentia saluti. attendis certe quomodo hic diierit'meliora', non quia bona erant, quae supra dixerat proferre spinas et tribulos et ustionem mereri, sed magis quia mala erant, ut illis deuitatis meliora eligerent et optarent, hoc est bona tantis malis contraria. sed forte apostolum sic audiendum esse arbitraris quemadmodum de se ipse dicit, tamquam hominem etsi imperitum sermone, sed non scientia, et ideo non uerborum in eo, sed rerum atque sententiarum auctoritatem putas esse sectandam, 'bona' poni debuisse contendens ubi posuit ipse 'meliora/ quid, si et ego iam his litteris adsuefactus et illas quas puer didici oblitus sic dixi: obicitis traditionem.
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Consider, however, more carefully, lest you happen to find in the authors of Latin speech, whom the artificial rules of grammarians serve, that this degree which is placed before does not always increase, but sometimes is set above in a contrary sense. An example of this usage occurs to me for the moment from the epistle which the apostle wrote to the Hebrews. For when he was speaking of the blessing of the land, which, having received rain, yields fruit, he then added: "But producing thorns and thistles, it is reprobate and nearest to a curse, whose end is in burning." Lest he should seem to have wished that for those to whom he was speaking, he says: "But we have confidence concerning you, dearest brothers, for better things, and things adhering to salvation." You certainly note how he here distinguished 'better things', not because the things were good which he had said above about producing thorns and thistles and deserving burning, but rather because they were evil, so that, by avoiding those, they would choose and desire better things, that is, good things contrary to such evils. But perhaps you think the apostle is to be heard in the same way as he himself says of himself, as a man unskilled in speech, though not in knowledge, and therefore you think that not the authority of words in him, but of things and opinions, is to be followed, contending that 'good' ought to have been placed where he himself placed 'better'. What if I, too, now accustomed to these letters and having forgotten those which I learned as a boy, said: "You charge tradition.
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hanc ipsam multo probabilius nos uobis obicimus, tamquam dicerem 'probabiliter', conparatiuum pro positiuo ponens, non quia uos probabiliter, sed magis quia inprobabiliter, sicut ille 'meliora', non quia illa erant bona, sed magis quia mala? tu quare tam temere concludis ex hoc me confirmasse 'uos probabiliter', quia dixi 'nos probabilius'? Quamquam nec secundum grammaticos in uerbo me errasse reprehenderes, si saltem uerborum ipsorum auctores uel attente legere uel memoriter recolere uoluisses. pueriles enim habent litterae, sed non a puero imperito dictum: di meliora piis erroremque hostibus illum. discissos nudis laniabant dentibus artus. quomodo ergo 'meliora' piis, quasi bona essent istis ac non potius magna mala, qui discissos nudis laniabant dentibus artus? iam uides certe, quia, sicut iste piis potuit optare meliora, quamuis illa, in quorum conparatione optabat, non essent bona, sic et ego potui dicere: traditionem probabilius nos uobis obicimus. quamuis eam uos nobis non probabiliter obiceretis. at omittam. quia et probabile quando dicitur non consequenter est uerum. cum a dicuntur. quae fieri possunt ae solent et ideo probantur. hoc est adprobantur et creduntur. etiamsi facta non sint: quod autem uerum est cum ostenditur. necessario probabile est et illo utique probabilius. recole libro, ubi uerba didicisti: quam te non fallam profecto repperies.
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We bring this very thing against you much more plausibly, as if I were saying 'plausibly', using a comparative for a positive, not because you plausibly, but rather because you implausibly, just as he said 'better things', not because those things were good, but rather because they were bad? Why do you so rashly conclude from this that I confirmed 'you plausibly', because I said 'we more plausibly'? Moreover, you would not have reproached me for erring according to the grammarians in my word, if you had at least been willing either to read attentively or to recall from memory the authors of those very words. For the letters are childish, but it was not said by an inexperienced child: 'The gods gave better things to the pious, and error to their enemies. They tore apart limbs, stripped bare, with their teeth.' How then are 'better things' for the pious, as if those things were good, and not rather great evils, for those who tore apart limbs, stripped bare, with their teeth? Now you certainly see that, just as he could wish better things for the pious, although those things, in comparison with which he wished, were not good, so too I could say: 'We bring the charge of tradition against you more plausibly', even though you did not bring it against us plausibly. But let me pass over that. For when something is called 'probable', it does not consequently follow that it is true, since things are called 'probable' which can and usually happen, and therefore are approved, that is, are accepted and believed, even if they have not happened. But what is true, when it is shown, is necessarily probable, and certainly more probable than that. Consult the book where you learned your words: you will certainly find that I do not deceive you.
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Unde etiamsi uestros probabiliter nostris traditionem obiecisse concederem. non ideo uerum obiecisse contenderem et recte nos dicerem probabilius hanc obicere, quandoquidem a nobis nominari tantum traditores solemus audire, nullis autem gestis uel ecclesiasticis uel publicis recitari demonstrarique confessos, a nobis autem proferri et gesta publica, ubi uestri tradiderunt. et ecclesiastica. ubi confessi deo iudici derelicti sunt Sed non omitto tam manifestum adiutorium tuum, quo nobis etiam nesciens plurimum faues docendo regulas conparatiui gradus, quia id quod ante positum est auget. non quod ante dictum est inprobat. secundum hanc enim regulam tuam, secundum quaedam uerba tua in epistula tua sine ulla difficultate obtinuimus causam nostram. tu enim dixisti in primis partibus litterarum tuarum, uelut nostram pertinaciam criminando, tot documenta legalia quod melius et uerius est nobis persuadere non posse. ubi ego concludo secundum artificialia tua iam nos uerum et bonum tenere, si, quod uerius et melius est, nobis persuaderi non potest cum ergo nos non rescindamus, ut secundum te loquar, uerius et melius baptisma uestrum, quare uos rescinditis uerum et bonum nostrum? item cum dixisses: hoc et nos uolumus ut Christus sit origo et radix caputque christiani, continuo subiecisti: sed quaerimus per quem hoc melius fiat.
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Therefore, even if I were to grant that your side has more plausibly charged our side with the tradition of the scriptures, I would not thereby contend that you have charged us truly, and I would rightly say that we charge this more plausibly, since we are accustomed to hear from you only the name of 'traditors,' but never to have them shown and proven by any records, whether ecclesiastical or public, as having confessed; whereas from us both public records are produced, in which your people handed over the scriptures, and ecclesiastical records, in which they were left to God as judge, having confessed. But I do not overlook such an obvious help from you, by which, even unknowingly, you greatly favor us by teaching the rules of the comparative degree, because what is placed before is increased, not that what was said before is disapproved. For according to this rule of yours, based on certain words of yours in your letter, we have obtained our case without any difficulty. For you said, in the early parts of your letter, as if accusing our obstinacy, that so many legal documents cannot persuade us of what is truer and better. From this I conclude, according to your own rules, that we already hold the true and the good, if what is truer and better cannot be persuaded to us. Therefore, since we do not rescind, as I shall speak according to you, your truer and better baptism, why do you rescind our true and good one? Likewise, when you said: 'We too wish that Christ be the origin and root and head of the Christian,' you immediately added: 'But we ask through whom this is better done.
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quod dicendo utique concessisti et per malum ministrum bene fieri, sed melius per bonum. cum itaque nos non rescindimus baptismum, quem per uestrum tamquam per bonum ministrum dari dicitis, quare uos rescinditis baptismum, quem per nostrum tamquam per malum ministrum datum esse contenditis? tu enim dixisti: quaerimus per quem melius fiat, et tua regula est, quia gradus iste quod ante positum est auget. unde si per uestrum sicut putas melius fit, ergo et per nostrum bene fit, ac per hoc, quando per nos baptizatum rebaptizatis, id quod ex ista tua regula bene factum esse conceditis sacrilega praesumptione rescinditis. Uereor ne nimis urgeam uerecundiam tuam, si ostendam, quam leuiter et scurriliter quaedam etiam uerba mea quae translata posui, frontem pro pudore, os pro sermone, tridens telum pro tripertita oratione, tricipitem bestiam pro errore tribus calumniis aduersus tot populorum innocentiam saeuiente, quasi urbanus et dicax exagitanda putaueris. serua potius puerilia pueris. neque enim me mouet, quod Neptunium telum propter tridentem dicis episcopum non decere, cum sit et piscatorium ac per hoc apostolicum, quod suos apostolos dominus piscatores hominum fecit. nam et deum nostrum scriptura dicit et alas habere et sagittas, nec tamen Cupidinem colimus.
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By saying this you have certainly conceded that good can be done through a bad minister, but better through a good one. Since, therefore, we do not annul the baptism which you claim is given through your minister as through a good one, why do you annul the baptism which you contend is given through our minister as through a bad one? For you said: we ask through whom it is better done, and your rule is that this step, which is placed before, increases. Hence, if through your minister, as you think, it is better done, then through our minister it is also well done, and consequently, when you rebaptize someone baptized by us, you annul by a sacrilegious presumption what you concede, by this rule of yours, to have been well done. I fear I may press too hard upon your modesty, if I show how lightly and scurrilously you have thought to mock certain words of mine, which I placed in translation, as if witty and facetious: "forehead" for modesty, "mouth" for speech, "trident" for a threefold discourse, "three-headed beast" for error raging with three calumnies against the innocence of so many peoples. Rather, leave childish things to children. For it does not move me that you say a trident, because of its three prongs, does not befit a bishop, since it is also a fisherman's tool and thereby apostolic, for the Lord made his apostles fishers of men. For our Scripture also says that God has wings and arrows, yet we do not worship Cupid.
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Quin etiam me promissam in exordio lenitatem non seruasse reprehendis, eo quod Manicheorum facta mentione permotus dixerim: sicut non potest, quod dominus ait, satanas satanan excludere, ita non potest errorem Manicheorum Donatistarum error euertere, quasi Petilianum satanae conparauerim ac non errorem, cuius eum cupio laqueis expediri. bene quod apostolus nos aduersus tales calumnias communiuit eo ipso loco, ubi nos mites, patientes et modestos esse admonet, quando aliquem dissentientem corripimus. cum enim dixisset: seruum autem domini litigare non oportet, sed esse mitem ad omnes, docibilem, patientem, in modestia corripientem diuersa sentientes, continuo subiunxit: ne forte det illis deus paenitentiam ad cognoscendam ueritatem et resipiscant de diaboli laqueis, captiuati ab ipso secundum ipsius uoluntatem. ecce apostolica mansuetudo! cum quibus placide, patienter modesteque agi praecepit, eos ipsos dicit a diabolo captiuatos, nec tamen lenitatem quam commendabat amisit, quia eam quam docebat tacere noluit ueritatem.
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You also reproach me for not having kept the gentleness I promised at the beginning, because, moved by the mention of the Manichaeans, I said: just as the Lord says that Satan cannot cast out Satan, so the error of the Donatists cannot overthrow the error of the Manichaeans, as if I had compared Petilianus to Satan and not the error from whose snares I desire him to be freed. It is well that the Apostle has fortified us against such calumnies in that very place where he admonishes us to be gentle, patient, and modest when we correct someone who dissents. For after he had said: "But the servant of the Lord ought not to quarrel, but to be gentle to all, teachable, patient, correcting those who think differently with modesty," he immediately added: "lest God give them repentance to know the truth and they come to their senses from the snares of the devil, having been captured by him according to his own will." Behold apostolic gentleness! Those with whom he commanded us to act calmly, patiently, and modestly, he himself calls captured by the devil, yet he did not lose the gentleness he commended, because he was unwilling to be silent about the truth which he taught.
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Sed ipse uideris cuius partes agas, qui mea uerba uelut conuiciosa et saeua criminando eos, quos ad disputandum conuenire non uis, ad litigandum niteris excitare; nolo enim dicere, quia et te litigare delectat. parcius quippe ac uerecundius, sed quasi ex obliquo mihi obicis quae ad me omnino non pertinent. quid enim iudicem de Manicheorum pestilentiosissima et christianis omnibus anathemanda uanitate, si tantum dicere solerem ac non etiam conscriptis libris multis multiplicibusque testarer, ne sic quidem esset aduersus me UIIUB calumniae uestrae locus. neque enim me catholica falso a nobis argui miraretur, a quibus totus christianus orbis cum tot ecclesiis, etiam illis primis apostolico labore propagatis, falsis criminibus accusatur. cum uero contra Manicheos, qui me adulescentulum aliquando deceperant, mea tanta scripta qui uoluerit legere possit, non usque adeo desipit, ut de me credat potius uerbis uestris quam oculis ac sensibus suis.
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But you yourself see whose side you are on, who, by denouncing my words as abusive and savage, are trying to stir up to quarreling those whom you do not wish to come together for debate—for I do not wish to say that you also take delight in quarreling. For you reproach me more sparingly and modestly, but as if indirectly, with things that do not pertain to me at all. For what judgment would I make about the most pestilential and, for all Christians, anathematizable vanity of the Manichaeans, if I were accustomed only to say such things and did not also attest to it in many and manifold written books? Not even then would there be any room for your slanders against me. For the Catholic Church would not be surprised to be falsely accused by you, when the whole Christian world, with all its churches—even those first propagated by apostolic labor—is accused by you of false crimes. But since, against the Manichaeans, who once deceived me as a young man, anyone who wishes can read my many writings, no one is so foolish as to believe your words about me rather than his own eyes and understanding.
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Sed epistulam, inquis, principis uestri, qua nescio quid de te scripsit, cum te ordinari nollet, tenent non pauci nostrorum. illam uero minime curarem, nec si eius a quo scripta dicitur non perspicua pro nobis sententia legeretur illam calumniam falsitatemque condemnans; quanto minus eam curat catholica ecclesia, cuius causam contra uos agimus, cui tot diuinis testimoniis praefidenti nulla humana de quoquam homine testimonia seu uera seu falsa qua gaudet auferunt ueritatem! desine talibus: unus homo sum. ecclesiae inter nos agitur causa, non mea, ecclesiae, inquam, quae in nullo homine spem ponere a suo didicit redemptore. quamquam nec de me ipso nobis, etiamsi meam conuersationem nossetis, recte crederetur inimicis mihi. ad existimationem hominum magna testium qui me nouerunt suppetit copia, ad dei uero conspectum sola conscientia, quam contra uestras criminationes cum intrepidam geram, non me tamen sub oculis omnipotentis iustificare audeo magisque ab illo afluentem misericordiae largitatem quam iudicii summum examen expecto, cogitans quod scriptum est: cum rex iustus sederit in throno, quis gloriabitur castum se habere cor aut quis gloriabitur mundum se esse a peccato?
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But you say, "The letter of your leader, in which he wrote something about you when he did not wish you to be ordained, is held by not a few of our people." I would care very little for that letter, even if the clear judgment of the one by whom it is said to have been written were not read, condemning that calumny and falsehood on our behalf; how much less does the Catholic Church care for it, whose case we are conducting against you, which, relying on so many divine testimonies, no human testimonies about any man, whether true or false, take away the truth that it rejoices in! Cease with such things: I am one man. The case between us concerns the Church, not me—the Church, I say, which has learned from its Redeemer to place hope in no man. Although, even concerning myself, if you knew my manner of life, you would not rightly be believed by my enemies. For the estimation of men, I have a great abundance of witnesses who know me; but for the sight of God, only my conscience, which I bear fearless against your accusations, yet I do not dare to justify myself before the eyes of the Almighty, and I expect from Him more the overflowing bounty of mercy than the supreme scrutiny of judgment, thinking of what is written: "When the just king sits on the throne, who will boast that he has a pure heart, or who will boast that he is clean from sin?
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Sed quid ad rem, cuius inter nos uertitur quaestio, qualis ipse sim, cum in area dominica sim stipula si malus, granum si bonus? uos tamen si grana essetis, paleam conmixtam, sicut admonet etiam ipse Cyprianus, ante tempus uentilationis non refugeretis. proinde nos, si quem repperimus in nobis notum hominem malum, recte uobis obicimus; ibi enim tota defensio uestra consistit, quia propterea uos separastis, ne alienorum peccatorum contagione periretis. unde nouum genus areae uos fecisse gloriamini, aut quae solum triticum habeat aut in qua solum triticum appareat, cui non sit necessarius uentilator, sed perscrutator. nam et Parmenianus uester praeclaram uestram munditiam uelut inmunditiae nostrae. a contrario conparans ausus est interponere sententiam prophetae Hieremiae, ubi ait: quid paleae cum tritico? quod ille dixit, ut ipsa indicat lectio, aduersus eos, qui diuinis oraculis sua somnia coaequabant. adrogantia tamen uestra et horrenda superbia Parmeniani litteris declaratur, ubi uos contra scripturas diuinas et contra monita Cypriani ante ultimam uentilationem, quam mundus expectat, tamquam purgatum a palea triticum praedicauit.
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But what does it matter to the issue, the question that is being debated between us, what sort of person I myself am, when in the Lord's threshing-floor I am either chaff if I am bad, or grain if I am good? Yet if you were grains, you would not shun the chaff mixed in, as even Cyprian himself admonishes, before the time of winnowing. Therefore, if we find in our midst a man known to be evil, we rightly charge it against you; for your entire defense consists in this, that you separated yourselves lest you perish by the contagion of others' sins. Hence you boast of having made a new kind of threshing-floor, either one that has only wheat, or one in which only wheat appears, which has no need of a winnower, but of a scrutinizer. For even your Parmenianus, comparing your splendid purity with our impurity, as it were by contrast, dared to insert the sentence of the prophet Jeremiah, where he says: "What has chaff to do with wheat?"—which he said, as the reading itself indicates, against those who equated their own dreams with divine oracles. Yet your arrogance and dreadful pride are declared in the letters of Parmenianus, where he proclaimed you, contrary to the divine scriptures and contrary to the warnings of Cyprian, before the final winnowing, which the world awaits, as wheat purified of chaff.
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Quid igitur dignius aduersus hanc fallacissimam elationem quam causa Maximianensium uobis potuit procurari? quaecumque in nos dicere tamquam in traditores soletis, in Maximianenses, quos recepistis damnatos, quando damnati sunt grauiora dixistis, de imperatoribus nobis tamquam persecutoribus facitis inuidiam: uos apud iudices, quos ipsi imperatores miserunt, Maximianensibus persecutionem fecistis. baptismum ecclesiae dari extra ecclesiam non posse contenditis: uos baptismum, quem in crimine schismatis Maximianenses dederunt, in receptis eis quibus dederunt non rescidistis. si haec pro pace unitatis fieri debuerunt, unde nos accusetis non inuenitis; si autem non debuerunt, nos non accusetis, nisi uos ipsos damnaueritis. nolo te per multa distendas; nam et ego possem breuiter ea quae contra te dicta sunt in memoriam reuocare. sed hinc solum cogita, Maximianensium causam tibi ante oculos pone. si de hac nobis respondere potueris, adgredere cetera; si autem non potueris, melius quiescas quam calces aduersus stimulum iactes.
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What, then, could have been procured for you more fittingly against this most deceitful arrogance than the case of the Maximianists? Whatever you are accustomed to say against us as though we were traditors, you have said more grievously against the Maximianists, whom you received when condemned, at the time they were condemned. You make us odious on account of the emperors as though they were persecutors: you yourselves, before judges whom the emperors themselves sent, inflicted persecution on the Maximianists. You contend that the baptism of the Church cannot be given outside the Church: you did not annul the baptism which the Maximianists gave while in the crime of schism, when you received those to whom they gave it. If these things had to be done for the sake of the peace of unity, you find no grounds on which to accuse us; if, however, they ought not to have been done, you do not accuse us unless you have condemned yourselves. I do not want you to spread yourself over many things; for I too could briefly recall to memory those things which have been said against you. But think only of this, place the case of the Maximianists before your eyes. If you are able to answer us concerning this, proceed to the rest; if, however, you are not able, it is better for you to be quiet than to kick against the goad.
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LIBER QVARTUS. Quamuis iam tribus nec paruis uoluminibus epistulae tuae, Cresconi, diligenter satisque responderim, qua Petiliani litteras contra mea rescripta, quibus refellebantur, defendendas putasti, tamen etiam hoc breuiore opere institui de sola causa Maximianensium tecum agere et ex hac una ostendere omnia, quae in illa epistula posuisti, quam frustra, quam inaniter dixeris. neque enim contemnendum est beneficium dei, quod et ad nostrae dispensationis conpendium et ad uestrae correctionis, si sapiatis, adiutorium praestare dignatus est.
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BOOK FOUR. Although I have already responded to your letter, Cresconius, with three not insubstantial volumes, in which you thought to defend the letter of Petilianus against my replies by which it was refuted, yet I have decided in this shorter work to treat with you solely concerning the case of the Maximianists, and from this one matter to show that everything you set forth in that letter was said in vain and emptily. For the benefit of God, which He has deigned to provide both as a convenience for our own management and as an aid for your correction, if you should come to your senses, is not to be despised.
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qui nescientibus uobis neque id agentibus nobis ita uestrorum episcoporum mentibus dominatus est, ut, qui orbem christianum per communionem sacramentorum maculatum peccatis criminabantur alienis quamuis etiam ipsis falsis et non probatis, in Maximiani causa cogerentur fateri eorum quos damnauerunt peccatis non fuisse maculatos in una sacramentorum communione constitutos eos, quibus tamquam innocentibus ad reuertendum dilationem dederunt etsi non ordinatoribus Maximiani, tamen in eius parte constitutis damnatoribus Primiani; et qui baptismum Christi nolebant agnoscere nec in eis ecclesiis datum, quas apostolorum labor propagauit atque fundauit, contendentes extra unam ecclesiam baptismum dari non posse nosque culpantes, quod per eos datum baptismum non rescinderemus, quos esse in uera ecclesia negaremus, susciperent in Maximiani sacrilego schismate baptizatos et in eis baptismum rescindere non auderent; et qui de legibus christianorum imperatorum, quibus eorum peruersitas corrigenda praecipitur, nos tamquam crimine persecutionis accusant, adirent iudices ab ipsis imperatoribus missos et Maximianum ac socios eius apud eos grauiter accusarent, concilium quo eos damnauerunt gestis proconsularibus allegarent, iussiones quibus illi sedibus pellerentur efficacissimas impetrarent.
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who, unknown to you and not through our doing, so dominated the minds of your bishops that, although they accused the Christian world of being stained by the sins of others through communion in the sacraments—sins that were in fact false and unproven—they were compelled in the case of Maximianus to admit that those whom they had condemned had not been stained by sins while they were established in one communion of the sacraments, those to whom, as if they were innocent, they granted a delay for returning, even if not to the ordainers of Maximianus, yet to those established in his faction who were condemnors of Primianus; and who, although they refused to acknowledge the baptism of Christ even as given in those churches which the labor of the apostles propagated and founded, contending that baptism could not be given outside the one church and blaming us because we did not rescind baptism given by those whom we denied were in the true church, they received those baptized in the sacrilegious schism of Maximianus and did not dare to rescind baptism in them; and who, although they accuse us of the crime of persecution on the basis of the laws of Christian emperors by which their perversity is ordered to be corrected, they approached judges sent by those same emperors and gravely accused Maximianus and his associates before them, they entered into the proconsular records the council by which they condemned them, and they obtained most effective orders by which those men were driven from their sees.
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his omnibus a se gestis adhuc nebulas inperitis conantur offundere, non solum scripturis sanctis et priorum rerum gestarum, quando se ab unitate separauerunt, multis certisque documentis, uerum etiam recentissimis suis factis et exemplis euidentissime superati. Hinc ergo tantum agam, hinc ad omnes epistulae tuae partes, quantum me dominus adiuuat, sine ulla difficultate, immo cum magna facilitate respondeam. ac primo illud, quod tibi ipse contrarius eloquenter eloquentiam uituperare uoluisti, tamquam esset ueritatis inimica et patrona potius falsitatis, ut eo modo me quasi eloquentem cauendum atque fugiendum ostenderes imperitis: si re uera tanta esset eloquentia mea, quantam mihi quamuis accusatorie tribuis, nonne recitato decreto concilii Bagaiensis, quo, sicut ibi scriptum est, Maximianum fidei aemulum, ueritatis adulterum, ecclesiae matris inimicum, Dathae, Corae et Abiron ministrum de pacis gremio sententiae fulmen excussit, laudare eloquentiam cogereris? porro si mihi materies illa proponeretur, quando possem dicere: licet uiperei seminis noxios partus uenenati uteri alueus diu texerit et concepti sceleris uda coagula in aspidum membra tardo se calore uaporauerint, tamen conceptum uirus euanescenti umbraculo occultari non potuit. nam etsi sero publicum facinus et parricidium suum feta scelerum uota pepererunt?
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All these deeds of theirs, they try to obscure with clouds for the inexperienced, not only by the holy scriptures and the many certain proofs of earlier events, when they separated themselves from unity, but also by their own most recent deeds and examples, they are most evidently overcome. Therefore, I will deal only with this, and from this I will respond to all parts of your letter, as the Lord helps me, without any difficulty, indeed with great ease. And first of all, that you, contradicting yourself, eloquently wished to disparage eloquence, as if it were the enemy of truth and rather the patron of falsehood, so that in that way you might show me, as if eloquent, to be avoided and shunned by the inexperienced: if in truth my eloquence were as great as you, though accusingly, attribute to me, would you not be compelled to praise eloquence when the decree of the Council of Bagai is recited, by which, as is written there, it struck Maximianus, the rival of the faith, the adulterer of truth, the enemy of mother Church, the minister of Dathan, Korah, and Abiram, with the thunderbolt of its sentence from the bosom of peace? Moreover, if that subject matter were set before me, when could I say: although the noxious offspring of viperous seed, the womb of a poisoned belly long concealed, and the moist coagulations of conceived crime slowly warmed into the limbs of asps, yet the conceived poison could not be hidden by a fading shadow. For even if late, did the pregnant vows of crimes give birth to their public crime and parricide?
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quando me in haec uerba exquirenda coartarem, quando in exprimenda prouoluerem? quando tanto impetu. tanto sonitu in odium noxiorum lectoris uel auditoris animum concitarem? num ideo haec in quos dicta sunt minus ueraciter dicta sunt? num hac eloquentia tanti concilii fides minuitur uel labefactatur auctoritas? nempe illud quo uisum est eloquentius eo potissimum electum est, quod omnes esse suum uellent, quo uno trecentorum et decem ora tacentia personarent. ecce eloquentia quam uituperasti, quam uelut seditiosam et Graeco etiam nomine malitiose artificiosam detestandam uitandam que monuisti, tantum permulsit tot episcopos tuos, ut in plenario concilio suo nollet suam quisque proferre sententiam, sed unam, quae ab uno dici disertius ornatiusque potuit, eam cuncti facerent suam. liceat igitur nobis sine inuidia non usque quaque inpolite contra errores hominum disputare, si licuit tot ac tantis episcopis uestris ipsos homines tam diserte ornateque damnare.
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when would I constrain myself to seek out these words, when would I roll forth in expressing them? when would I stir up the mind of the reader or hearer into hatred of the guilty with such force, such sound? Is it for that reason that these things, which were said against certain persons, are less truly said? Is the faith of such a great council diminished or its authority weakened by this eloquence? Surely that which seemed more eloquent was chosen precisely because all wished it to be their own, that one voice of three hundred and ten might resound through their silent mouths. Behold the eloquence which you have censured, which you have denounced as seditious and, even by its Greek name, maliciously artful, to be shunned and avoided—this eloquence so charmed all your bishops that in their plenary council each was unwilling to offer his own opinion, but they all made their own that one which could be spoken more eloquently and more ornamentally by one man. Therefore let it be permitted to us, without ill will, to dispute against the errors of men not altogether without polish, if it was permitted to so many and so great bishops of yours to condemn those very men so eloquently and ornamentally.
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Illud etiam, quod studium pro ueritate certandi, quia saepe uoluimus conferre cum uestris, ut errore sublato fraterna caritas pacis uinculo laetaretur, contentionis et animositatis uitioso nomine reprehendis: nonne melius, obsecro causa ueritatis et unitatis pacificis uerbis et pacatioribus locis inter episcopos ageretur, quam in foro ab episcopis per aduocatos litigaretur? quod a partibus Primiani Carthaginiensis episcopi uestri aduersus Maximianum et aduersus eos, qui cum illo Bagaiensi concilio damnati sunt, apud legatum Carthaginis et apud quattuor uel amplius proconsules factum est. certe in conlatione disputationis hoc cauendum est, ne prorumpatur in litem, et caueri a modestis et mitibus et potest et solet; cum uero aduocatis utrimque luctantibus in foro controuersia uertitur, iam procul dubio litigatur. neque hoc in uestris reprehendo, si ad hoc non amore litigandi, sed consulendi necessitate conpulsi sunt; uerumtamen admoneo te bono ingenio praeditum uirum, ut aduertas, ut sentias, ut intellegas eos, qui forensem strepitum et iudiciaria iurgia, quibus accusatos conuincerent et expellerent quos in concilio iam damnauerant, non declinauerunt, sed susceperunt exercuerunt, multo nobiscum facilius pacifice conferre potuisse, nisi mallent causam malam cooperire excusatione quam disputatione finire.
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Moreover, you reproach with the vicious name of contentiousness and animosity that zeal for contending on behalf of truth, because we often wished to confer with your people, so that, with error removed, fraternal charity might rejoice in the bond of peace. Would it not, I ask, have been better for the cause of truth and unity to be conducted with peaceful words and in more tranquil places among bishops, rather than being litigated in the forum by bishops through advocates? This is what was done on the part of your bishop Primianus of Carthage against Maximianus and against those who were condemned with him at the Council of Bagai, before the legate of Carthage and before four or more proconsuls. Certainly, in a conference of disputation, this is to be guarded against, that it break out into a lawsuit, and it can and usually is guarded against by modest and gentle persons; but when a controversy is turned over in the forum with advocates struggling on both sides, then without doubt it is a lawsuit. Nor do I reproach this in your people, if they were compelled to this not by a love of litigating but by the necessity of consultation; nevertheless, I admonish you, a man endowed with a good mind, that you notice, that you perceive, that you understand that those who did not shun the forensic uproar and judicial quarrels by which they would convict and expel the accused whom they had already condemned in council, but rather undertook and exercised them, could have conferred with us much more easily in a peaceful manner, unless they preferred to cover up a bad cause with an excuse rather than to finish it with a disputation.
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Iam uero quod, antequam uenias ad sermonem meum quo reprehendi Petilianum, a me interim quaeris a quo te baptizari conueniat, utrum ab eo potius, quem et ego baptismum habere confirmo, an ab eo, quem tuus hoc non habere contendit, haec etiam quaestio per Maximiani causam de uana inperitorum loquacitate sublata est, quantum quidem ad uos adtinet - nam apud ipsos Maximianenses adhuc manet —; uestri enim damnato propter sacrilegium schismatis Maximiano, quem diaconum suum Primianus damnauerat et per quem conspirantibus aduersum se plurimis collegis damnatus fuerat, continuo cum eo duodecim ordinatores eiusdem Maximiani eadem sententia damnauerunt. ex quibus duos, Praetextatum Adsuritanum et Felicianum (Mustitanum), cum eos in iudicio proconsulari accusassent, cum Bagaiensi concilio damnatos allegata per aduocatos eadem sententia demonstrassent, cum iubente proconsule locis quos tenebant pellere conati minime ualuissent, sic postea susceperunt, ut cum eis in honoribus eorum integris communicarent et simul in pacem redactis populis eorum ex his, quos in schismate baptizauerant, nullum rebaptizarent.
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Now, as to the fact that, before you come to my discourse in which I refuted Petilianus, you ask of me in the meantime from whom it is fitting for you to be baptized—whether from one whom I also affirm possesses baptism, or from one whom your party contends does not possess it—this question too has been removed, so far as you are concerned, by the case of Maximianus from the empty loquacity of the ignorant; for among the Maximianists themselves it still remains. For your people, having condemned Maximianus for the sacrilege of schism—whom their own Primianus had condemned as his deacon, and by whom, with many colleagues conspiring against him, Primianus had been condemned—immediately condemned along with him the twelve ordainers of that same Maximianus by the same sentence. Out of these, two, Praetextatus of Adsuritum and Felicianus of Musti, when they had accused them in a proconsular court, and had shown them to have been condemned by the Council of Bagai, the same sentence having been alleged through their advocates, and when, with the proconsul ordering it, they had tried to drive them from the places they held but had been quite unable to do so, they later received them in such a way that they communicated with them with their honors intact, and, with their peoples having been brought back into peace, they rebaptized none of those whom they had baptized in schism.
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Extat decretum Bagaiensis concilii allegatum apud proconsulem, aduocato prosequente Nummasio, cum ageret, ut Primiani communioni Membresitana ecclesia traderetur expulso Saluio, qui eam tenebat antiquitus, ubi episcopatum meruerat in parte Donati. sed pellendus propterea petebatur, quia eum damnatum Bagaiensi concilio recitabat inter duodecim Maximiani ordinatores, quos idem Nummasius in numero errans undecim dicit. hanc Nummasii postulationem recitauit postea Titianus, expresse ac nominatim agens apud eundem proconsulem aduersus Praetextatum et Felicianum. cuius aduocati uerba ista sunt: sed suis, inquit, institutis iniquitas delectatur et semet ipsam non deserit, cum semel praecipitata corruerit. idem namque Maximianus coeptam nutrit audaciam et alios sibimet consociat ad furorem. inter quos etiam Felicianus quidam, qui primo recta sectatus deprauationis huius attaminatione fuscatur, in Mustitana positus ciuitate deo omnipotenti parietes consecratos, ecclesiam uenerandam quasi quadam obsessione credidit retinendam. hunc Praetextatus etiam in Adsuritanis partibus imitatur. sed cum aequitatis tuae innotesceret potestati consortium sacerdotum, iussisti, ut gesta testantur, exploso omni contradictions effectu sacratissimis sacerdotibus a profanis mentibus ecclesias uindicatas oportere restitui.
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There is extant a decree of the Council of Bagai, cited before the proconsul, with the advocate Nummasius pursuing the case, when he was acting to have the church of Membresitana handed over to the communion of Primianus, Salvius having been expelled, who had held it from ancient times, where he had obtained the episcopate in the Donatist party. But he was sought to be expelled for this reason, because he was recited as condemned by the Council of Bagai among the twelve ordainers of Maximianus, whom the same Nummasius, erring in number, calls eleven. This petition of Nummasius was later recited by Titianus, expressly and by name acting before the same proconsul against Praetextatus and Felicianus. The words of that advocate are these: "But its own institutions delight iniquity," he says, "and it does not abandon itself once it has fallen headlong. For the same Maximianus fosters the audacity he has begun and joins others to himself in madness. Among them is a certain Felicianus, who, having first followed the right path, is now darkened by the contamination of this depravity, and, placed in the city of Musti, believed that walls consecrated to almighty God, a venerable church, should be retained as if by some siege. This Praetextatus also imitates in the parts of Adsuritanum. But when the power of your equity became known to the fellowship of priests, you ordered, as the records testify, that, all contradiction having been set aside, the churches vindicated for the most sacred priests ought to be restored from profane minds.
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deinde paulo post, ut idem aduocatus ostendat quid iussum sit, recitat N Nummasii postulationem quam supra commemoraui, in qua pro consule Nummasio cum dixisset: lege episcopate iudicium, illud Bagaiense recitatum est, in quo Maximianus damnatur his uerbis: Maximianum fidei aemulum, ueritatis adulterum, ecclesiae matris inimicum, Dathae, Corae et Abiron ministrum de pacis gremio sententiae fulmen excussit. et quod adhuc eum dehiscens terra non sorbuit, ad maius supplicium superis reseruauit. raptus enim poenam suam conpendio lucrauerat funeris: usuras nunc grauioris colligit faenoris, cum mortuus interest uiuis. deinde in illos duodecim ordinatores eius ita profertur Bagaitana sententia: nec solum hunc, inquiunt, sceleris sui mors iusta condemnat; trahit etiam ad consortium criminis plurimos catena sacrilegii, de quibus scriptum est: 'uenenum aspidum sub labiis eorum quorum os maledictione et amaritudine plenum est. ueloces pedes eorum ad effundendum sanguinem. contribulatio et calamitas in uiis eorum, et uiam pacis non cognouerunt. non est timor dei ante oculos eorum'. nollemus quidem tamquam e proprii corporis iunctura praecidi. sed quoniam tabescentis uulneris putredo pestifera plus habet in abscisione solaminis quam in remissione medicaminis, inuenta est causa salubrior, ne per cuncta membra pestilens inrepat uirus, ut conpendioso dolore natum decidat uulnus.
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Then a little later, to show what had been ordered, the same advocate recites the petition of Nummasius which I mentioned above, in which, when Nummasius had said to the proconsul, "Read the judgment of the episcopate," that decree of Bagai was recited, in which Maximianus is condemned in these words: "Maximianus, a rival of the faith, an adulterer of the truth, an enemy of mother Church, a minister of Dathan, Korah, and Abiram—the thunderbolt of the sentence has hurled him from the bosom of peace. And because the gaping earth has not yet swallowed him up, it has reserved him for a greater punishment above. For a sudden death would have gained him the profit of a swift funeral; now he is gathering the interest of a heavier debt, since he, though dead, stands among the living." Then, concerning his twelve ordainers, the Bagaitan sentence is pronounced thus: "Not only does a just death condemn this man for his crime; the chain of sacrilege also drags many others into the fellowship of the crime, of whom it is written: 'The venom of asps is under their lips, whose mouth is full of curse and bitterness. Their feet are swift to shed blood. Tribulation and calamity are in their ways, and they have not known the way of peace. There is no fear of God before their eyes.' We would indeed be unwilling to cut them off as if from the joint of our own body. But since the pestilent putrefaction of a festering wound brings more comfort in excision than in the remission of treatment, a more healthful course has been found, lest the contagious poison creep through all the members, so that the wound, once born, may fall away with a brief pain.
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famosi ergo criminis reos Uictorianum Carcabianensem, Marcianum Sullectinum, Beianum Beianensem, Saluium Ausafensem, Theodorum Usulensem. Donatum Sabratensem, Miggenem Elefantariensem, Praetextatum Adsuritanum, Saluium Membresitanum, Ualerium Melzitanum, Felicianum Mustitanum et Martialem Pertusensem, qui funesto opere perditionis uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinarunt, sed et clericos aliquando e.cclesiae Carthaginis, qui, dum facinori intersunt, inlicito incestui lenocinium praebuerunt. dei praesidentis arbitrio uniuersalis concilii ore ueridico damnatos esse cognoscite. post istorum damnationem, in quibus leguntur Praetextatus Adsuritanus et Felicianus Mustitanus, cum quibus, ut ante dixi, post proconsulares aduersus eos impetratas iussiones concordauerunt, ceteris in eodem Maximiani schismate constitutis, Primiani etiam damnatoribus. tantum quia non interfuerant Maximiani ordinationi, dilationem dederunt in eodem Bagaiensi concilio certo diei termino definitam, quae continetur his uerbis: eos autem, inquiunt, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, hoc est qui a Maximiani capite proprias manus uerecundo fidei pudore retraxerunt, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus. quantum enim de reorum morte purgamur, tanto de innocentium reditu gratulamur.
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Therefore, know that the accused of a notorious crime—Victorianus of Carcabia, Marcianus of Sullectum, Beianus of Beiana, Salvius of Ausafa, Theodorus of Usula, Donatus of Sabrata, Miggo of Elephantaria, Praetextatus of Adsuritum, Salvius of Membresita, Valerius of Melzita, Felicianus of Mustita, and Martialis of Pertusa—who, by a baleful work of perdition, glued together a sordid vessel with collected filth, and also the clerics once of the Church of Carthage, who, while participating in the crime, provided panderage to an illicit incest, have been condemned by the truthful voice of a universal council under the presiding judgment of God. After the condemnation of these, among whom are read Praetextatus of Adsuritum and Felicianus of Mustita, with whom, as I said before, they reconciled after obtaining proconsular orders against them, they granted a delay to the others established in the same schism of Maximianus, even the condemnors of Primianus, only because they had not been present at the ordination of Maximianus, a delay defined by a fixed term of day in the same Council of Bagai, which is contained in these words: "But those," they say, "whom the plantings of the sacrilegious shoot did not pollute—that is, those who, with a shamefaced fidelity, withdrew their own hands from the head of Maximianus—we have permitted to return to mother Church. For as much as we are purged by the death of the guilty, so much do we rejoice in the return of the innocent.
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ac ne angustum redeuntibus tempus spem salutis artatae diei pressura subducat, agnoscentibus quibus licet, manentibus praecedentibus statutis, uniuersis usque ad diem octauum KJ Ian proxime futurarum agnitionis pandimus ianuam, ut integri honoris ac fidei regressi habeant fundamenta. quam si quisquam ingredi nequiuerit pigra segnitia, sciat sibi ad omnes ueniales aditus sua uoluntate uiam esse subductam. manebit enim circa eos dicta sententia et post praestitutum diem redeuntibus fixa paenitentia.
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And lest the narrow time for those returning should deprive them of the hope of salvation by the pressure of the restricted day, for those who acknowledge, to whom it is permitted, with the preceding statutes remaining in force, we open the door of acknowledgment to all until the eighth day before the Kalends of January next, so that those who return may have the foundations of complete honor and faith. But if anyone is unable to enter through lazy sloth, let him know that by his own will the way to all forgiving approaches has been removed for him. For the pronounced sentence will remain concerning them, and fixed penance for those returning after the appointed day.
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Ex his igitur omnibus quoniam redisse aliquos ad communionem uestram nec uos negatis et in tam recenti memoria, adhuc etiam uiuentibus hominibus, de quibus agitur, celeberrima et clara notitia est, cum et illi, quibus dilatio data est — quandoquidem, sicut uerba eiusdem concilii satis indicant, eos ad matrem ecclesiam redire inuitant et eorum tamquam de innocentium reditu gratulantur — et illi, quos cum Maximiano nulla interposita dilatione damnarunt, extra uestram ecclesiam toto illo tempore baptizauerint, siue usque ad diem dilationis, quando cum Maximiano communicabant et in eius erant schismate constituti, siue etiam transacto dilationis die, quando Titianus aduocatus nominatim Praetextatum et Felicianum pelli de basilicis postulabat, cum quibus in honore integro Primianus postea concordauit: quomodo audetis iam dicere unum baptisma nisi in una ecclesia dari non posse, cum ab istis datum in sacrilego schismate baptismum sine ulla controuersia cognoueritis susceperitis rescindere non ausi fueritis? nec tamen potestis dicere nihil uos praestitisse illis, quos in eodem baptismo suscepistis.
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From all these things, therefore, since you do not deny that some have returned to your communion, and the matter is of such recent memory—with the very persons involved still living, and the knowledge of it being most widespread and clear—and since both those to whom a delay was granted (inasmuch as the words of that same council sufficiently indicate that they are invited to return to Mother Church, and they rejoice over them as over the return of the innocent) and those whom they condemned along with Maximian without any delay interposed, baptized outside your church throughout that entire time—whether up to the day of the delay, when they were in communion with Maximian and established in his schism, or even after the day of the delay had passed, when the advocate Titianus specifically demanded that Praetextatus and Felicianus be expelled from the basilicas, with whom Primian later made peace while they retained their full honor—how dare you now say that one baptism cannot be given except in one church, when you have acknowledged, received, and not dared to rescind the baptism given by these men in sacrilegious schism, without any controversy? And yet you cannot claim that you granted nothing to those whom you received in that same baptism.
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si ergo quaeram quid praestiteritis, procul dubio respondebitis: ne ipso schismatis sacrilegio perirent, ne baptismum Christi non ad praemium sed ad iudicium, non ad salutem sed ad perniciem, sicut est militiae character in desertoribus, haberent, praestitimus pacem, praestitimus unitatem, praestitimus ecclesiae societatem, ut eum per quem caritas diffunditur in cordibus nostris spiritum sanctum accipere mererentur, sine quo nemo peruenit ad regnum caelorum, etiamsi sacramentis omnibus legitimis inbuatur. haec responderetis ueraciter, si ueram ecclesiam teneretis. uerumtamen ad admonitionem uestram sufficit, ut hoc uos accepturos intellegatis in uera ecclesia, quod eos, quos in Maximiani sacrilego schismate baptizarunt, qui cum eis ad uos inde redierunt, in uestra communione accepisse credidistis, atque ita uos etiam accepto baptismo Christi esse puniendos, si unitatem eatholicae ecclesiae non tenueritis, sicut in Maximiani schismate baptizatos procul dubio puniendos non dubitaretis, si uestrae communioni non copularentur, in quibus ad uos inde uenientibus non rescindendum baptismum iudicastis. uides itaque etiam hoc, quod te mouebat de baptismi sacramento, in causa Maximianensium iam solutum.
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If, therefore, I ask what you have conferred, you will undoubtedly reply: so that they would not perish by the very sacrilege of schism, so that they would not have the baptism of Christ not as a reward but as a judgment, not for salvation but for perdition, as is the mark of military service in deserters, we conferred peace, we conferred unity, we conferred fellowship with the Church, so that they might merit receiving the Holy Spirit through whom charity is diffused in our hearts, without which no one attains the kingdom of heaven, even if imbued with all legitimate sacraments. You would reply these things truthfully, if you held the true Church. Nevertheless, for your admonition it suffices that you understand that you will receive this in the true Church, which you believed those whom the Maximianists baptized in their sacrilegious schism, who returned with them to you from there, received in your communion, and thus you also, having received the baptism of Christ, are to be punished if you do not hold the unity of the Catholic Church, just as you would undoubtedly not doubt that those baptized in the schism of Maximianus were to be punished, if they were not joined to your communion, in whom, when they came to you from there, you judged that the baptism was not to be rescinded. You see, therefore, that even this, which troubled you about the sacrament of baptism, has already been resolved in the case of the Maximianists.
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Iam nunc illa uideamus, quibus epistulam meam te refellere credidisti. ac primum quod interrogas, quare uestros Donatistas adpellem, adiungens quod Donatus non auctor et institutor ecclesiae quae ante non fuerat, sed a Christo deductae et antiquae unus ex episcopis fuerit, non attendis hoc de se ipso et Maximianum dicere, ex cuius tamen nomine uniuersam eius communionem appellatis. neque schisma quod fecit ullo uocabulo a uobis uel ab aliis sectis discernitis, nisi aut Maximianistas aut Maximianenses aut quodlibet aliud, quod a Maximiani nomine deriuetur, aut certe simplicius et sine timore grammaticarum ferularum partem Maximiani nominetis. num quid (ad) hoc dicturus es nisi Maximianum a uestra communione schisma fecisse, hoc autem a communione catholica non fecisse Donatum? sed Maximianus non hoc dicit, qui Primianum potius et uos omnes adfirmat a parte Donati, in qua ipse permansit, schisma fecisse et recitat decreta conciliorum, primum quod apud Carthaginem a quadraginta et tribus factum est, quo praedamnatus est Primianus, alterum quod Cebarsussi centum uel amplius uestri tunc episcopi condiderunt, quo perfecte pleniusque damnatus est. cui talia documenta proferenti quid respondebis, nisi maioris auctoritatis esse Bagaiense concilium.
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Now let us examine those points by which you believed you had refuted my letter. First, as to your question why I call you Donatists, adding that Donatus was not the author and founder of a church which had not existed before, but rather one of the bishops of the church derived from Christ and ancient, you do not observe that Maximianus says this about himself and his own followers, yet you call his entire communion by his name. Nor do you distinguish the schism he made from yourselves or from other sects by any term other than either Maximianists or Maximianenses or whatever else is derived from the name of Maximianus, or, more simply and without fear of the schoolmaster's rod, you call it the party of Maximianus. What will you say to this except that Maximianus made a schism from your communion, but that Donatus did not make a schism from the Catholic communion? But Maximianus does not say this; rather, he affirms that Primianus and all of you made a schism from the party of Donatus, in which he himself remained, and he recites the decrees of councils: first, that which was held at Carthage by forty-three bishops, by which Primianus was pre-condemned; second, that which was held at Cebarsussi by a hundred or more of your bishops at that time, by which he was fully and more completely condemned. To one producing such documents, what will you reply, except that the Council of Bagai is of greater authority?
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in quo trecenti et decem eundem Maximianum et eius socios damnauerunt, quando Primianus non apud eos tamquam purgandus dicebat causam, sed cum eis tamquam iudex innocentissimus considerabat, proferebat sententiam contra Maximianum et duodecim socios eius, quibus ille praesentibus ordinatus est. et data dilatione tamquam innocentes ad pacem propriam reuocabat tot ceteros, a quibus ipse damnatus est? In hac uestra conflictione quid uultis ut nos medii iudicemus, quandoquidem nec Maximiani nec uestra communione detinemur? quid, inquam, hinc uultis iudicemus, nisi contra duo concilia, quibus damnatus est Primianus, unum Bagaiense posterius pro illo ualere debere, quo damnatus est Maximianus, eo uidelicet firmius id esse arbitrantes. quo posterius potuit de prioribus iudicare? ecce in hoc fauemus uobis; alia nobis est cum Maximianensibus causa, si ausi fuerimus censere. fauemus, inquam. tertium iudicium Bagaiense factum est pro Primiano contra Maximianum eiusque collegas, quo posteriore potuerunt merito priora deleri, quamquam a duobus prioribus iudiciis ad tertium nullam Primiani uocem prouocationis uel legimus uel audimus, nisi quod absens primo praedamnatus secundoque damnatus est. sed etiam in Maximianum et socios eius absentes prolata est disertissima illa Bagaitana sententia.
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In which three hundred and ten condemned the same Maximianus and his associates, when Primianus was not pleading his case among them as one to be purged, but was sitting with them as a most innocent judge, was pronouncing sentence against Maximianus and his twelve associates, in whose presence he had been ordained. And after granting a delay, he was recalling so many others, by whom he himself had been condemned, to their own peace as if they were innocent? In this conflict of yours, what do you want us, as mediators, to judge, since we are held by the communion neither of Maximianus nor of yours? What, I ask, do you want us to judge from this, except that against the two councils by which Primianus was condemned, the later council of Bagai, which condemned Maximianus, ought to prevail, on the grounds that we consider it, of course, to be more firmly established? For how could a later council judge concerning earlier ones? Behold, in this we favor you; we have another case with the Maximianists, if we have dared to decide. We favor you, I say. A third judgment at Bagai was rendered for Primianus against Maximianus and his colleagues, by which later judgment earlier ones could deservedly be annulled, although we read or hear of no voice of appeal from Primianus from the two earlier judgments to the third, except that, absent, he was first pre-condemned and then condemned a second time. But also against Maximianus and his associates, absent, that most eloquent sentence of Bagai was pronounced.
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et hoc illi quadraginta et tres apud Carthaginem modestius, cautius diligentiusque se gessisse testati sunt, quod ad eundem Primianum non semel, sed iterum ac tertio legatos miserunt, ut, si ad eos ipse uenire nollet, ipsos ad se uenire permitteret. quo utrumque recusante, sicut scribunt, et eos qui missi sunt iniuriosa repulsione tractante necessitatem sibi incubuisse senserunt, ut iam ecclesiae prouiderent, et sic nondum audentes ultimum praecipitare iudicium, sed quodam praeiudicio consulentes, ut ei, si causae suae fideret, sequenti celebriore concilio respondendi seque purgandi relinqueretur locus; quo cum uenire noluisset, iam necessario putauerunt esse damnandum sine ulla suspensione sententiae. at uero in decreto concilii Bagaiensis non solum legatos ullos a Maximiano male tractatos non legimus, sed nec missos legimus ut ueniret; uidemus tamen leuatum altare contra altare et ordinatum episcopum contra eum episcopum, qui in cathedra ubi fuerat ordinatus ita sedebat, ut conuentu sui populi non desereretur nec a ceteris pluribus episcopis communio eius dirimeretur, tantam commouisse indignationem sacrilego schismate perpetrato, ut nec ipsius Maximiani nec ordinatorum eius iam esset ulterius differenda damnatio.
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And those forty-three at Carthage testified that they had conducted themselves more modestly, cautiously, and diligently in this matter, because they sent legates to the same Primianus not once, but a second and third time, so that if he himself was unwilling to come to them, he would permit them to come to him. When he refused both, as they write, and treated those who were sent with a shameful rebuff, they felt that necessity had pressed upon them to provide for the church, and thus, not yet daring to precipitate the final judgment, but consulting by way of a preliminary ruling, they left room for him, if he trusted his cause, to respond and purge himself at a subsequent, more solemn council; and when he was unwilling to come to that, they then thought it necessary to condemn him without any suspension of the sentence. But in the decree of the Council of Bagai we read not only of no legates having been ill-treated by Maximianus, but not even of any legates having been sent to summon him; yet we see that an altar was raised against an altar and a bishop ordained against that bishop who sat in the see where he had been ordained, in such a way that he was not deserted by the assembly of his own people nor was his communion severed by the many other bishops, and that this provoked such indignation at the sacrilegious schism committed that the condemnation of Maximianus himself and of his ordainers could no longer be delayed.
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Haec cum ita sint, non uos tamen pro Caeciliano talia permouent. contra quem manentem et populo praesidentem erecto altari contra altare ordinatus est Maiorinus. contra quem non a uobis duo, sicut contra Primianum a Maximianensibus, sed unum profertur iudicium horrendae temeritatis festinatione adceleratum. qui non sicut Primianus noluit ad se uenire collegas, sed inuitauit potius ut uenirent, quod nec ipsi in sui concilii decreto, quod contra eum condiderunt, tacere potuerunt. pro quo non unum. sicut pro Primiano, sed quattuor posteriora iudicia recitantur. eius non absentes, sicut Primiani, sed praesentes sunt aduersarii confutati apud eos iudices, in quos iudicaturos consenserunt, apud ipsum etiam imperatorem Constantinum, apud quem primum Caecilianum accusauerunt, apud quem postea de iudicibus episcopis, a quibus ille ipsam causam uoluit audiri, tamquam non recte iudicantibus questi sunt, ad quem rursus ab altero episcopali iudicio prouocarunt, ut ipso etiam post unum et alterum episcopale iudicium inter partes cognoscente superarentur, quorum non defuit etiam quarta conuictio.
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Since these things are so, you are not, however, moved by such considerations on behalf of Caecilian. Against him, who remained and presided over the people, Maiorinus was ordained with an altar set up against an altar. Against him, not two judgments, as against Primianus by the Maximianists, but one judgment is brought forward, hastened by a rush of dreadful rashness. He, unlike Primianus, did not refuse to come to his colleagues, but rather invited them to come, which even they themselves could not keep silent about in the decree of their own council, which they issued against him. On his behalf, not one, as on behalf of Primianus, but four later judgments are recited. His adversaries, not absent like those of Primianus, but present, were refuted before those judges whom they had agreed would judge, before the emperor Constantine himself, before whom they first accused Caecilian, before whom they later complained about the bishops who judged, from whom he wished that very case to be heard, as if they had not judged rightly, to whom they again appealed from a second episcopal judgment, so that they were overcome even by him, after one and another episcopal judgment, judging between the parties, and their fourth conviction was not lacking.
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nam cum in Caeciliani propriis criminibus calumniatores inuenti fuissent et ei de Felicis Aptugnensis ordinatoris eius traditione quaestionem intulissent, Felix etiam ipse purgatus est proconsulari iudicio, eodem ipso Constantino ut causa eius discuteretur iubente, quem illi adsiduis interpellationibus fatigabant. haec Maximianenses aduersus Primianum non exercuerunt mala nec totiens uicti sunt nec praesentes uicti sunt nec apud eos quos ipsi elegerunt iudices uicti sunt; et tamen, quod manifestum est, ipsi a uestra communione schisma fecerunt, et hoc uestros a catholica communione fecisse non uultis aduertere; qua inpudentia uanissimae animositatis, prorsus ignoro. si enim omnia, quae dicitis de Caeciliano et Felice ordinatore eius, ideo uera esse uultis, quia septuaginta ferme episcopi de hac re iudicauerunt, cur non uultis uera esse quae dicuntur de Primiano, cum et inde primo quadraginta tres, postea centum episcopi iudicauerunt et prius praeiudicium posteriore iudicio confirmauerint? si autem propterea illa crimina Primiani falsa esse censetis, quia pro illo posterius contra inimicos eius Bagaiense concilium recitatur, cur non uultis crimina, quae obiecta sunt Caeciliano, falsissima confiteri, pro quo posteriora tot iudicia recitantur?
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For when, in the case of Caecilian’s own alleged crimes, his accusers had been found to be false, and they had brought against him a charge concerning the traditio of his ordainer Felix of Aptunga, Felix himself was also cleared by a proconsular judgment, at the very order of Constantine himself that his case be examined—Constantine, whom they were wearing down with constant importunities. The Maximianists did not inflict such evils against Primian, nor were they so often defeated, nor were they defeated in person, nor were they defeated before judges whom they themselves had chosen; and yet, what is manifest, they themselves made a schism from your communion, and you refuse to notice that your own people made a schism from the catholic communion; with what impudence of the most empty animosity, I am utterly at a loss. For if you wish everything that you say about Caecilian and his ordainer Felix to be true because about seventy bishops judged on this matter, why do you not wish what is said about Primian to be true, when in that case first forty-three, and later a hundred bishops judged, and the earlier preliminary decision was confirmed by the later judgment? But if, on the other hand, you consider those charges against Primian to be false because the Council of Bagai is cited later in his favor against his enemies, why do you not confess that the charges brought against Caecilian are utterly false, in whose favor so many later judgments are cited?
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si Caecilianus, contra quem semel fuerat ab illis septuaginta iudicatum, non debuit iam locum purgationis apud alios iudices inuenire, nec Primianus debuit, quem iam tanto plures quam septuaginta primam confirmantes secunda cognitione damnauerant. si autem bis damnato tertium, quia pro illo factum est, iudicium sufficientissime suffragatur, cur semel damnato non sufficere ad absolutionem secundum, tertium, quartum quintumque iudicium nescio qua ferrea fronte contenditis? quodsi uos forte numerus mouet, ut ideo contra centum, a quibus damnatus est Primianus, ualere arbitremini Bagaiense concilium, quia in eo trecenti et decem fuerunt, cur in tanto maiore numero episcoporum orbi terrarum consentire non uultis? Quod autem obicis Caeciliano peccatum illud in expiabile in spiritum sanctum, de quo dominus ait: non remittetur neque hic neque in futuro saeculo, et nos possemus edocere Feliciano Mustitano, quem hodie cum Primiano habetis episcopum, unum ex ordinatoribus Maximiani damnatoribusque ipsius Primiani, quo etiam in sacrilego schismate baptizatos non rebaptizastis, peccatum nos obiecisse quod sit in spiritum sanctum, cui sacrilegium schismatis (obiecistis), sicut in Bagaiensis concilii sententia declamatum est.
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If Caecilian, against whom judgment had once been given by those seventy judges, ought not to have found a place for purgation before other judges, then neither ought Primian, whom so many more than seventy—those who confirmed the first judgment—had condemned in a second hearing. But if, for one condemned twice, a third judgment, because it was rendered in his favor, suffices most fully, why do you contend with some iron forehead that for one condemned once, a second, third, fourth, and fifth judgment should not suffice for acquittal? Or if perhaps the number moves you, so that you consider the Council of Bagai to prevail against the hundred by whom Primian was condemned, because there were three hundred and ten in it, why do you refuse to consent to the far greater number of bishops throughout the whole world? But as for the charge you bring against Caecilian of that unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit, concerning which the Lord says: “It will not be forgiven, neither here nor in the future age,” we too could teach that Felician of Musti, whom you today have as a bishop along with Primian—one of the ordainers of Maximian and condemners of Primian himself, and by whom you did not rebaptize those baptized in that sacrilegious schism—we could charge him with a sin that is against the Holy Spirit, which you have charged as the sacrilege of schism, as was declaimed in the sentence of the Council of Bagai.
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sicut enim uos ideo putatis illo inremissibili reatu peccasse in spiritum sanctum quos accusatis diuinas scripturas exurendas persecutoribus tradidisse, quod easdem scripturas sancto spiritu acti locuti sunt homines dei, ita etiam nos non solum uestris potius traditoribus, quos gesta conuincunt, hoc idem possemus obicere, sed et Feliciano, ut dixi, hoc nos obiecisse in crimine sacrilegi schismatis doceremus, quia in spiritu sancto seruatur unitas dilectionis et pacis, dicente apostolo: sustinentes inuicem in dilectione, studentes seruare unitatem spiritus in uinculo pacis, quam profecto uiolat qui schisma committit. sed hunc reatum insolubilis aeternique peccati, quod in spiritum sanctum committitur, nec uobis obicimus, quos correctos cum uiuitis sanari posse non desperamus, nec uestris, qui sanctos codices cremandos ignibus tradiderunt, nisi quod usque in finem uitae huius ab unitate disiuncti cor inpaenitens habuerunt. nec Feliciano et Praetextato hoc uos obiecisse ostenditis, cum quibus postea communicastis, qui in catena sacrilegii cum Maximiano ad consortium criminis tracti plenarii concilii uestri ore ueridico leguntur esse damnati et post diem dilationis non quidem illis iam damnatis, sed aliis tamquam innocentibus prorogatum probantur esse suscepti.
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Just as you think that those whom you accuse of having handed over the divine scriptures to be burned by the persecutors have sinned with that unforgivable guilt against the Holy Spirit, because those same scriptures were spoken by men of God acting through the Holy Spirit, so also we could not only object the same thing to your own traditors, whom the records convict, but we would also show that we have objected this to Felicianus, as I said, in the crime of sacrilegious schism, because unity of love and peace is preserved in the Holy Spirit, as the apostle says: "bearing with one another in love, striving to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace," which indeed he violates who commits schism. But we do not object this guilt of an insoluble and eternal sin, which is committed against the Holy Spirit, either to you, whom we do not despair of being able to be healed when you live corrected, or to your people who handed over the sacred books to be burned by fire, except that they had an unrepentant heart, separated from unity until the end of this life. Nor do you show that you have objected this to Felicianus and Praetextatus, with whom you later communicated, who are read to have been condemned by the truthful mouth of your plenary council, dragged into the chain of sacrilege with Maximianus to the fellowship of crime, and after the day of delay are proven to have been received, not indeed as already condemned, but as if innocent, with the delay being extended to others.
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Quod autem non tibi placet deriuatio nominis, ut a Donato Donatistae appellentur, et censes Latinae regula locutionis potius declinandam, non aspernor admonitionem tuam; uerumtamen quaere grammaticos iudices, apud quos cum Maximianensibus de hac arte confligas eosque conuincas. iam enim nec ipsos uolo Maximianistas uocare, ne offendam tam eruditas aures tuas, qui certe, quantum existimo, non ut ego tibi facile cessuri sunt, ut Claudianenses uel quid aliud appellent quos Claudianistas appellauerunt, cum eos Primiano in communionem receptos inter alia quibus eum et praedamnauerunt et damnarunt crimina posuerunt. et simul recognosce hanc declinationis regulam non mihi soli, sicut reprehendis, placuisse, sed fortasse me solum tibi in ea re, quae ad causam non pertinet, tanta facilitate cessisse. Quod uero me putasti uehementius arguendum, quod, cum dixerim: Donatistarum haereticorum sacrilegum errorem, haeresim appellans quod tu schisma potius uis putari, eos tamen a sacrilegio non expiatos in communionem recipiamus, tu qui nos in hac causa tam grauiter arguis responde, quomodo expiauerint uestri sacrilegium Feliciani et Praetextati, cum quibus postea communicauerunt, episcopos eos sibi sicut antea fuerant copulantes atque reddentes nec quemquam eorum, quos illi in sacrilegio schismatis baptizauerant, denuo baptizantes.
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But as for the fact that the derivation of the name, so that they are called Donatists from Donatus, does not please you, and you think that the rule of Latin speech should rather be declined, I do not reject your admonition; however, seek out grammarians as judges, before whom you may contend with the Maximianists about this art and convict them. For I do not even wish to call them Maximianists now, lest I offend your so learned ears, who certainly, as far as I judge, will not yield to me as easily as you do, so that they would call them Claudianenses or something else, whom they called Claudianists, when they received them into communion with Primianus, among other crimes with which they both pre-condemned and condemned him, they set them down. And at the same time recognize that this rule of declination has not pleased me alone, as you reproach, but perhaps you alone have yielded to me in that matter, which does not pertain to the case, with such great ease. But as for the fact that you thought I should be argued against more vehemently, because, when I said: "the sacrilegious error of the Donatist heretics," calling it a heresy which you prefer to think of as a schism, we nevertheless receive them into communion not expiated from sacrilege, you who argue against us so gravely in this case, answer how your people expiated the sacrilege of Felicianus and Praetextatus, with whom they later communicated, joining them to themselves as bishops as they had been before and restoring them, and not rebaptizing any of those whom they had baptized in the sacrilege of schism.
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an forte non erant sacrilegio maculati, sicut quidam uestrum desipiunt, dicentes non eos in deum, sed hominem peccauisse? sacrilegium uero tanto est grauius peccatum, quantum committi non potest nisi in deum; unde me disputatione tua non ob aliud urgendum arbitratus es, quod sic suscipiamus eos, qui a uobis ad nos transeunt, nisi quia uestrum dixi sacrilegum errorem. lege ergo Bagaiense concilium. nempe ista illic prima uerba sunt: cum omnipotentis dei et Christi eius saluatoris nostri uoluntate ex uniuersis prouinciis Africae uenientes in ecclesia sancta Bagaiensi concilium gereremus Gamalius Primianus Pontius Secundianus Ianuarianus Saturninus Felix Pegasius Rufinus Fortunius Crispinus Florentius Optatus Donatus Donatianus et ceteri numero trecenti decem, placuit spiritui sancto qui in nobis est pacem firmare perpetuam, schismata resecare sacrilega. audis aduertis attendis? schismata, inquiunt, resecare sacrilega. ergo non in hominem, sed in deum scelerata peruersitate in eo schismate solus Maximianus sacrilegii crimine tenebatur, cum ista sententia diceretur? lege paulo post quid dicant de sociis eius, inter quos istorum nomina, de quibus agitur, scripta sunt: nec solum hunc, inquiunt, sceleris sui mors iusta condemnat; trahit etiam ad consortium criminis plurimos catena sacrilegii.
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Or were they not stained with sacrilege, as some of you foolishly claim, saying that they sinned not against God but against man? Indeed, sacrilege is so much graver a sin as it cannot be committed except against God; whence you thought I should be pressed in your disputation for no other reason than that we receive those who pass from you to us, except that I called your error sacrilegious. Read, then, the Council of Bagai. Surely these are the first words there: "With the will of Almighty God and of Christ His, our Saviour, coming from all the provinces of Africa, we held a council in the holy church of Bagai—Gamalius, Primianus, Pontius, Secundianus, Ianuarianus, Saturninus, Felix, Pegasius, Rufinus, Fortunius, Crispinus, Florentius, Optatus, Donatus, Donatianus, and the rest, three hundred and ten in number—it pleased the Holy Spirit who is in us to establish perpetual peace, to cut off sacrilegious schisms." Do you hear, do you note, do you attend? "To cut off sacrilegious schisms," they say. Therefore, was only Maximianus held by the charge of sacrilege in that schism, with a wicked perversity not against man but against God, when this sentence was pronounced? Read a little later what they say about his associates, among whom the names of those in question are written: "Not only does a just death condemn this man for his crime; it also drags many into the fellowship of the crime by the chain of sacrilege.
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Quid est, uir disertissime? quid habes quod dicas mihi? lege sequentia, uide inter plurimos, quos trahit ad consortium criminis catena illius sacrilegii, Praetextatum et Felicianum ligatos. sacrilegos uideo episcopos: quid agis, si non probaueris expiatos? nempe urgueris cedere ueritati, qua dicimus expiari uestros, cum ad nos ueniunt, ipso uinculo fraternae pacis et caritatem cooperire peccata eorum, sicut scriptum est: caritas cooperit multitudinem peccatorum. quid de illis, quos a uestra communione separati et Maximiano in saorilegae illius catenae societate deuincti baptizauerunt, quos cum eis in eodem baptismo in pacem atque concordiam suscepistis? respondebisne aliquid nisi eadem sacramenta recte uos adprobasse in eis, quae nos quoque adprobamus in uobis? magis enim tibi constabis, si ista responderis et uerbis epistulae tuae non reluctaueris. in qua cum conareris ostendere non haeresem inter nos et uos, sed schisma potius esse commissum, dixisti nobis et uestris unam esse religionem, eadem sacramenta, nihil in christiana obseruatione diuersum. neque enim grauius quam his uerbis repetitionem baptismatis accusare potuisti, quando seducti a nobis rebaptizantur a uestris, in quibus eadem sacramenta esse et sentis et dicis et scribis.
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What is it, most eloquent man? What do you have to say to me? Read what follows; see among the many whom that chain of sacrilege drags into a partnership of crime, Praetextatus and Felicianus bound. I see bishops who are sacrilegious: what will you do, if you do not prove them purified? Surely you are compelled to yield to the truth, by which we say that your people, when they come to us, are purified by the very bond of fraternal peace, and that charity covers their sins, as it is written: "Charity covers a multitude of sins." What about those whom, separated from your communion and bound to Maximianus in the fellowship of that sacrilegious chain, they baptized, and whom you received along with them in that same baptism into peace and concord? Will you answer anything except that you rightly approved the same sacraments in them, which we also approve in you? For you will be more consistent with yourself if you answer that and do not contradict the words of your own letter. In that letter, when you tried to show that not heresy but rather schism has occurred between us and you, you said that we and your people have one religion, the same sacraments, nothing different in Christian observance. For you could not have accused the repetition of baptism more gravely than with these words, when those seduced by us are rebaptized by your people, in whom you both perceive and say and write that the same sacraments exist.
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qua igitur sceleris inpudentia non seruatur in eis, quos in sancta unitate baptizat orbis christianus, quod sernatum est in eis, quos in sacrilego schismate baptizarunt Praetextatus et Felicianus? causam itaque nostram, quam uobiscum habemus, uestro iam iudicio terminastis, cum eos, qui a uobis damnatione percussi sunt, qui populos ne ad uos accederent instantissime monuerunt, qui post uos etiam baptizandum esse censuerunt, cum eis, quos extra uestram communionem in sacrilegio schismatis constituti baptizauerunt, sine ulla degradatione, sine baptismatis iteratione in altaris concordiam suscepistis et nulla re alia ab illo scelere sacrilegii nisi sancto igne caritatis expiatos esse credidistis. quod uere fieret, si uos eandem caritatem in uera unitate teneretis. Sed tamen uideamus etiam de uerbis epistulae Petiliani, quam contra me defendere uoluisti, quomodo te exuas in hac causa Maximianensium, de qua sola nunc statui agere aduersum litteras tuas. posuit certe ille ista uerba sua: conscientia sancte dantis adtenditur quae abluat accipientis. cui ego: quid si, inquam, lateat dantis conscientia et fortasse maculosa sit, quomodo poterit accipientis abluere conscientiam? hanc tu ineuitabilem quaestionem, quia in uerbis Petiliani omnino non soluitur, tuis soluere aggressus es et dixisti non contra me, sed contra illum quem defendere uoluisti.
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By what audacity of crime, then, is it not preserved in those whom the Christian world baptizes in holy unity, what was preserved in those whom Praetextatus and Felicianus baptized in sacrilegious schism? Therefore, you have already settled our case, which we have with you, by your own judgment, when you received into the concord of the altar, without any degradation, without any repetition of baptism, those who were struck by your condemnation, who most urgently warned the peoples not to approach you, who even decreed that baptism should be administered after you, together with those whom they baptized while established outside your communion in the sacrilege of schism, and you believed that they were expiated from that crime of sacrilege by nothing other than the holy fire of charity. This would truly happen, if you yourselves held the same charity in true unity. But let us still see, also from the words of the letter of Petilianus, which you wished to defend against me, how you extricate yourself in this case of the Maximianists, concerning which alone I have now decided to argue against your writings. He certainly set down these his own words: "The conscience of the giver, given in holiness, is what is attended to, which washes the conscience of the receiver." To which I said: What if, I ask, the conscience of the giver is hidden and perhaps stained, how will it be able to wash the conscience of the receiver? You, because this unavoidable question is not at all resolved in the words of Petilianus, have attempted to resolve it with your own words, and you said not against me, but against him whom you wished to defend.
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ille quippe ait: conscientia dantis adtenditur quae abluat accipientis, tu uero, fassus latentem conscientiam uideri non posse, sic eam dixisti adtendi, ut non uideatur ipsa, sed quid de illa notum sit in publica fama. unde colligitur uerum iam non esse, quod conscientia dantis abluat accipientis conscientiam; sed fama eius abluit secundum te, quae utique fallit intuentem, cum de pessimo loquitur bona, de adultero casta, de sacrilego religiosa. tunc enim abluit, quando mentitur. nam si de occulto scelerato fama uerum loquatur, tunc non abluit, sed maculat eum, qui ab illo acceperit baptismum. ac per hoc fama ista, quam patronam tam malae causae adhibere uoluisti, uide qualis sit, quae mendax abluit et uerax polluit, ut scilicet mirifica tua disputatione tunc apud eam non sit aqua mendax, quando ipsa sit mendax. Sed quid hinc opus est diutius loqui, cum Felicianus hodie sedeat inter episcopos uestros, qui cum ab eis disiunctus esset et Maximiano in catena sacrilegii cohaereret, quoscumque baptizauit, nemo post eum rebaptizauit?
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He indeed says: the conscience of the giver is regarded, which cleanses the conscience of the recipient; but you, having admitted that a hidden conscience cannot be seen, have said that it is regarded in such a way that it is not the conscience itself that is seen, but what is known about it in public repute. From this it is gathered that it is no longer true that the conscience of the giver cleanses the conscience of the recipient; but rather, according to you, his repute cleanses it—which repute certainly deceives the observer when it speaks well of a most wicked man, chaste of an adulterer, religious of a sacrilegious man. For it cleanses only when it lies. For if repute speaks the truth about a hidden criminal, then it does not cleanse, but stains the one who has received baptism from him. And so this repute, which you wished to employ as the patroness of so bad a cause, see what it is like: when it is false, it cleanses; when it is true, it pollutes—so that, by your marvelous argument, the water is not false for it only when it itself is false. But why is it necessary to speak longer about this, when Felicianus today sits among your bishops—he who, when he had been separated from them and was bound to Maximianus in the chain of sacrilege, baptized whomever he baptized, and no one rebaptized after him?
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quaero a Petiliano, cuiusmodi habuerit tunc ille conscientiam, et lego decretum Bagaiensis concilii, ubi scriptum est: nec solum hunc sceleris sui mors iusta condemnat; trahit etiam ad consortium criminis plurimos catena sacrilegii, de quibus scriptum est: 'uenenum aspidum sub labiis eorum quorum os maledictione et amaritudine plenum est interhos enim plurimos etiam Felicianus adnumeratur, cui talibus labiis et tali ore aquam non respuistis, non rescidistis, non destruxistis et, quia uerbis euangelicis in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti per qualemlibet linguam atque conscientiam consecrata est, non mendacem, sed ueracem agnouistis atque recepistis. a te autem quaero, de isto Feliciano, cuius tam mala, cum in catena sacrilegii baptizaret, fuerat conscientia, quid erat tunc in publica fama, atque ipsum concilium identidem recito, ubi scriptum est: famosi ergo criminis reos Uictorianum Carcabianensem et inter ceteros, quos repetere piget: Praetextatum Assuritanum et Felicianum Mustitanum, qui funesto opere perditionis uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinarunt, paulo post: plenarii concilii ore ueridico damnatos esse cognoscite.
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I ask of Petilianus what sort of conscience that man had then, and I read the decree of the Council of Bagai, where it is written: "Not only does a just death condemn this man for his crime; he also drags many into the fellowship of crime by the chain of sacrilege, of whom it is written: 'The venom of asps is under their lips, whose mouth is full of curse and bitterness.' For among these, Felicianus is also numbered, to whom, with such lips and such a mouth, you did not spit out the water, you did not cut it off, you did not destroy it, and because it was consecrated by the evangelical words 'in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit' through whatever tongue and conscience, you acknowledged and received it not as false, but as true. But I ask of you, concerning this Felicianus, whose conscience was so evil when he baptized while in the chain of sacrilege, what was then in public repute? And I recite the same council again, where it is written: 'Therefore, know that Victorianus of Carcabiana and, among others whom it is tedious to recount, Praetextatus of Assura and Felicianus of Musti, guilty of a notorious crime, who by a deadly work of perdition glued together a filthy vessel with collected dregs, were condemned a little later by the truthful mouth of a plenary council.'
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Quid ad ista respondes? si non baptizat a uestra communione separatus, lego baptizasse cum Maximiano ad consortium criminis tractos. si non baptizat qui peccat in deum, lego baptizasse catena sacrilegii colligatos. si conscientia sancte dantis adtenditur quae abluat accipientis, lego baptizasse morsibus aspidum uenenosos. si, conscientia dantis ut possit abluere, publica fama eius adtenditur, lego baptizasse famosi criminis reos. manet adhuc in corpore Felicianus, cum illo sunt omnes ab illo in sacrilegio schismatis baptizati, in communionem autem uestram recepti nec ab ullo rebaptizati. contra Petilianum baptizauit sacrilega conscientia maculosus, contra te baptizauit famosi criminis reus.
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What do you say to this? If one separated from your communion does not baptize, I read that he baptized when dragged into the fellowship of Maximian’s crime. If one who sins against God does not baptize, I read that he baptized when bound by the chain of sacrilege. If the conscience of the giver, which washes the recipient, is what matters, I read that he baptized when venomous with the bites of asps. If the public reputation of the giver is what matters, so that his conscience can wash, I read that he baptized when accused of a notorious crime. Felicianus still remains in the body; with him are all those baptized by him in the sacrilege of schism, yet they were received into your communion and rebaptized by no one. Against Petilianus, one stained with a sacrilegious conscience baptized; against you, one accused of a notorious crime baptized.
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qua ratione uos, quaeso, defenditis, nisi ut, quod et nos dicimus, uestris factis conuicti aliquando dicatis, quod nec conscientia nec fama dantis abluat accipientis conscientiam, sed fides ipsius accipientis, dantis autem dei gratia, non hominis; quodsi et conscientiae bonae interrogatio in accipiente non fuerit fidesque ipsa uel tota uel ex parte aliqua uaccillauerit, mores hominum esse corrigendos, non sacramenta destruenda, quae non alia uel similia, sed tu omnino eadem confiteris; sicut eorum, quos Felicianus et Praetextatus in sacrilego schismate baptizarunt, uitam et uoluntatem corrigendam existimastis, ne in illo schismatis sacrilegio permanerent, non uiolandum baptismum licet indignissimis per indignissimos ministratum. Frustra igitur ore maledico conscientiam nostram tamquam publicatam atque damnatam crimine turificationis traditionis persecutionis accusare uoluisti, ut ex hoc uelut probares nos baptismum dare non posse, cum et falsa iactetis et, quomodo se illud habeat, certe Maximianensium sacrilegii crimine damnata conscientia dare potuit baptismum, quem rescindere timuistis et quem dari etiam a persecutoribus posse per uos quoque ipsos docetur, qui eosdem Maximianenses acerrime persecuti non solum baptizatis, sed uos solos baptizare debere contenditis.
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By what reasoning, I ask, do you defend yourselves, except that, as we also say, convicted by your own deeds you sometimes declare that neither the conscience nor the reputation of the giver cleanses the conscience of the receiver, but rather the faith of the receiver himself, and the grace of God, not of man, in the giver; and that if the interrogation concerning a good conscience is not present in the receiver, and that faith itself wavers either wholly or in part, it is the morals of men that ought to be corrected, not the sacraments destroyed—which you confess are not other or similar, but entirely the same? Just as you judged that the life and will of those whom Felicianus and Praetextatus baptized in the sacrilegious schism should be corrected, lest they remain in that sacrilege of schism, and not that the baptism, though administered by the most unworthy through the most unworthy, should be violated. Therefore, in vain did you wish, with your slanderous mouth, to accuse our conscience as if it were publicly exposed and condemned by the crime of incense-offering, betrayal, and persecution, so that from this you might prove that we cannot give baptism, since you make false claims and, however that matter stands, certainly the conscience condemned by the crime of the sacrilege of the Maximianists was able to give the baptism which you feared to rescind, and which is shown even by you yourselves to be able to be given even by persecutors, since you, having most bitterly persecuted those same Maximianists, not only baptize those baptized by them, but contend that you alone ought to baptize.
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Dicis in lege scriptum esse: oleum peccatoris nolo ungat caput meum. quod neque ita scriptum est nec sicut putas intellegendum. sed numquid non est oleum peccatoris oleum sacrilegorum Praetextati et Feliciani? dicis item scriptum esse: qui bapti?atur a mortuo quid ei prodest lauatio eius? quod nec diligenter adtendis nec ex ipsa circumstantia lectionis quid sit intellegis. uerumtamen intende, quid personet disertissima illa Bagaitana sententia: optata quidem, inquit, pacis et concordiae est iuncta germanitas, sicut scriptum est: 'iustitia et pax osculatae sunt inuicem'. sed ueridica unda in asperos scopulos nonnullorum naufraga proiecta sunt membra, Aegyptiorum admodum exemplo pereuntium funeribus plena sunt litora, quibus in ipsa morte maior est poena. quod post extortam aquis ultricibus animam nec ipsam inueniunt sepulturam. isti ergo non solum mortui, uerum etiam, quod est grauius, insepulti quomodo baptizare potuerunt? quomodo profuit lauatio eis qui ab his mortuis baptizati sunt, quos in eodem lauacro susceptos denuo non lauistis, si, ut putas, illud intellegendum est?
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You say it is written in the law: "I do not want the oil of a sinner to anoint my head." This is neither written as you claim nor to be understood as you think. But is not the oil of a sinner the oil of the sacrilegious Praetextatus and Felicianus? You also say it is written: "He who is baptized by a dead man, what does his washing profit him?" This you neither attend to carefully nor understand from the very context of the reading what it means. Nevertheless, consider what that most eloquent Bagaitana sentence sounds: "Indeed," it says, "the desired brotherhood of peace and concord is joined, as it is written: 'Justice and peace have kissed each other.' But the truthful wave has cast shipwrecked members upon the rough rocks of some, and, much like the example of the perishing Egyptians, the shores are full of corpses, for whom in death itself there is a greater punishment. After the avenging waters have wrung out their soul, they do not even find burial. These, therefore, are not only dead, but, what is more serious, unburied. How could they baptize? How did the washing profit those who were baptized by these dead men, whom, received in the same font, you did not wash again, if, as you think, that is to be understood?
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nam quod in epistula mea, cui respondere tibi uideris, putas quod idoli cultorem tamquam grauissimi peccati reum tantummodo exceperim et instas uehementer, ut probes nullum excipi peccatorem in eo quod scriptum esse dicis: oleum peccatoris nolo ungat caput meum, Felicianum et Praetextatum respice, utrum peccatores non fuerint, quando catena sacrilegii cum Maximiano pertrahi tam magno concilio dicebantur. aude adserere, aude contendere, aude saltem dicere peccatores quidem fuisse sed occultos, quos ibi lego famosi criminis reos. quamquam etsi leuiter peccauissent, etsi latuissent, tu hoc testimonio, quod ponis de oleo peccatoris, in ista suggestione extorquere conaris nullum excipi peccatorem. ubi eritis, si ita est, quo fugietis, in quibus uos latebris cum uestris sacrilegis, cum uestris famosi criminis reis, cum uestris cadaueribus insepultis abscondere poteritis?
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For in my letter, to which you seem to be responding, you think that I have only excepted the worshiper of an idol as a defendant of the gravest sin, and you insist vehemently, in order to prove that no sinner is excepted in what you claim is written: "I do not want the oil of a sinner to anoint my head." Look at Felicianus and Praetextatus: were they not sinners, when they were said to be dragged along by the chain of sacrilege with Maximianus in so great a council? Dare to assert, dare to contend, dare at least to say that they were indeed sinners, but secret ones, whom I read there as defendants of a notorious crime. Although even if they had sinned lightly, even if they had lain hidden, you are trying to extort by this testimony, which you set forth about the oil of a sinner, in this suggestion of yours, that no sinner is excepted. Where will you be, if it is so, whither will you flee, in what hiding places will you be able to conceal yourselves along with your sacrilegious ones, along with your defendants of a notorious crime, along with your unburied corpses?
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Dicis, cum obicitur qua nobis licentia ius baptismatis uindicemus, quod non de merito actuum, non de uitae innocentia tractemus, sed cuicumque licere dicamus et quasi praeiudicatis criminibus rei, dum et peccatoribus inesse baptizandi facultatem uolumus ostendere, nos aperte peccasse fateamur. quasi propter merita nostra contra deum nobis loquendum sit, ut quam iusti sumus tam iustum baptismum esse faciamus, cum et nulli hominum de sua iustitia praesumendum sit et hinc maxime baptismum Christi probemus esse, non hominum, quia non fit uarius humanorum uarietate meritorum. unde uberius disputarem, nisi a uobis dato conpendio magis uterer. suscepto enim baptismo neque destructo, quem Maximianenses dederunt, aspides uiperae parricidae cadauera Aegyptia et quidquid aliud in eos Bagaiensi concilio, ut nostra causa facillima fieret, ore grandiloquo declamatum est, satis et ipsi iudicastis non eorum meritis a quibus ministratur nec eorum quibus ministratur constare baptismum, sed propria sanctitate atque ueritate propter eum, a quo institutus est male utentibus ad perniciem, bene utentibus ad salutem.
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You say that when it is objected to us by what license we claim the right of baptism, we do not discuss the merit of actions or the innocence of life, but we say that it is permitted to anyone, and as if we were defendants in prejudged crimes, while we wish to show that even sinners possess the faculty of baptizing, we openly confess that we have sinned. As if, on account of our merits, we must speak against God, so that we make baptism as just as we are just, when no man ought to presume concerning his own justice, and it is especially from this that we prove baptism to be of Christ, not of men, because it is not made variable by the variety of human merits. I would discuss this more fully, were I not rather to use the shortcut given by you. For, having accepted the baptism which the Maximianists gave, and not having destroyed it—the asps, vipers, parricides, Egyptian corpses, and whatever else was declaimed against them in the Council of Bagai with grandiloquent speech, so that our case might be made very easy—you yourselves have sufficiently judged that baptism does not consist in the merits of those by whom it is administered, nor in those to whom it is administered, but by its own sanctity and truth on account of Him by whom it was instituted, to the destruction of those who use it badly, to the salvation of those who use it well.
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Miror autem, quomodo etiam tibi persuadere potuerunt, ut in tua disputatione mentionem faceres Cypriani, cuius litteris etiam ipsis, quas eius esse dicitis, de baptismo destruendo, qui apud haereticos uel schismaticos datur, tota causa uestra subuertitur. sed hoc aduersus Maximianenses uel alios, qui baptismum siue apud uos siue apud nos datum non suscipiunt, agere debemus; uos autem iam causam istam mira facilitate finistis, iam baptismum in sacrilego schismate Maximiani datum cum Praetextato et Feliciano in eorum populis suscepistis, iam contra Cypriani quas dicitis litteras et quibuscumque aliis hoc uisum est sine ulla dubitatione fecistis. nam quod dicis orientales ideo (a) uestrorum communione discretos, quia postea nobiscum sentiendo iudicium suum quod habuerunt de baptismo rescindere maluerunt, si hoc a quibus paucis orientalibus factum est, quod quidem interest utrum possit ostendi, profecto suum iudicium correxerunt. et uos suscepto baptismo, qui datus est in schismate Maximiani, antiquam uestram sententiam rescidistis; tamen uobiscum estis et cum orientalibus esse non uultis.
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I am surprised, however, that they could also persuade you to make mention of Cyprian in your disputation, whose very letters, which you claim to be his, concerning the destruction of baptism that is given among heretics or schismatics, overturn your entire case. But this we ought to press against the Maximianists or others who do not accept baptism given either among you or among us; you, however, have already finished that case with marvelous ease, you have already accepted baptism given in the sacrilegious schism of Maximian together with Praetextatus and Felicianus among their peoples, you have already acted against the letters you claim to be Cyprian's and against whatever others held this opinion, without any hesitation. For as to what you say, that the Easterners were separated from the communion of your party because, later agreeing with us, they preferred to rescind their judgment which they had concerning baptism, if this was done by a few Easterners—and it certainly matters whether it can be shown—they indeed corrected their judgment. And you, having accepted the baptism that was given in the schism of Maximian, have rescinded your own former opinion; yet you are at peace with yourselves and do not wish to be with the Easterners.
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Sed uidelicet inuenisse tibi uideris ubi tuam eloquentiam dilatares, cum ad id, quod ego in epistula mea posui: siue a fideli siue a perfido dispensatore sacramentum baptismi quisque percipiat, spes ei omnis in Christo sit, exclamas et dicis: o praeclarum sacerdotis imperium, o laudabilia boni patris pi'aecepta iustitiae! nihil, inquit, inter fidelem perfidumque discernas, idem tibi pius atque impius uideatur, nihil prodest bonis moribus uiuere, quia quidquid iusto licet potest et iniustus implere. quid hoc praecepto dici iniquius potest: purificet alium macu(losus, abluat sordidus, emundet inmundus, det infidelis fidem, criminosus faciat innocentem? haec certe uerba tua sunt, quibus sententiam meam reprehendis, cum hoc ego omnino non consenserim neque scripserim, quia et inter fidelem perfidumque plurimum distat non ad sacramentum, si hoc uterque habet, sed ad meritum, quia hoc alter ad salutem habet, alter ad poenam, nec quidquid iusto licet potest et iniustus implere, quia etsi potest iniustus baptizare, non tamen potest in regnum caelorum iniustus intrare, nec purificat uel abluit uel emundat nec innocentem facit quemquam qui ei ministrat baptismum, sed dantis dei gratia et percipientis bona conscientia. sed tu aspice, utrum nihil inter Primianum Felicianumque distaret, cum Primianus inter trecentos decem sederet.
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But evidently you thought you had found an opportunity to expand your eloquence, when, in response to what I set down in my letter—that whether one receives the sacrament of baptism from a faithful or a faithless minister, all his hope is in Christ—you exclaim and say: "O the splendid authority of the priest! O the praiseworthy precepts of a good father's justice! You make no distinction, you say, between the faithful and the faithless; the pious and the impious seem the same to you; it is of no benefit to live with good morals, because whatever is permitted to the just man, the unjust man can also fulfill. What could be more unjust than this precept: let the stained purify another, let the filthy wash, let the unclean cleanse, let the faithless give faith, let the criminal make innocent?" These are certainly your words, by which you criticize my opinion, although I have by no means agreed to this nor written it, because there is a great difference between the faithful and the faithless, not with regard to the sacrament, if each possesses it, but with regard to merit, since one possesses it for salvation, the other for punishment; nor can the unjust man fulfill whatever is permitted to the just man, because even if the unjust man can baptize, he cannot, however, enter the kingdom of heaven unjustly; nor does anyone who administers baptism purify, wash, cleanse, or make innocent anyone, but rather the grace of God who gives it and the good conscience of the recipient do so. But consider for yourself whether there was no difference between Primianus and Felicianus, when Primianus sat among the three hundred and ten.
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a quibus ille dicebatur quod uenenum aspidum esset sub labiis eius et ueloces haberet pedes ad effundendum sanguinem et contribulatio et infelicitas in uiis eius et uiam pacis ignoraret nec esset timor dei ante oculos eius, utrum tunc non esset maculosus inmundus sordidus qui uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinauit, non infidelis uenenum aspidum sub labiis habens, non criminosus famosi criminis reus. et tamen et ipse nunc cum Primiano uester episcopus sedet et quos tunc baptizauit nusquam postea lotos uobiscum nunc habet. Et adhuc pugnatis aduersus ueritatem nec conceditis, ut Christus semper det fidem, Christus sit origo christiani, in Christo radicem christianus infigat, Christus christiani sit caput. quibus uerbis meis in illa epistula contra Petilianum positis tua uerba subiungis et dicis: hoc et nos suademus, hoc uolumus, sed quaerimus per quem hoc melius fiat, nec adtendis hoc non suadere Petilianum, cui tunc respondi et cuius epistulam aduersus responsionem meam defendere atque affirmare conaris. ille quippe aperte dixit: conscientia sancte dantis adtenditur quae abluat accipientis. nam qui fidem a perfido sumpserit non fidem percipit sed reatum.
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from whom it was said that there was asp venom under his lips and that he had swift feet for shedding blood, and that there was affliction and unhappiness in his ways, and that he was ignorant of the path of peace, and that there was no fear of God before his eyes—whether then he was not stained, unclean, and filthy, who glued together a filthy vessel with collected filth, not an unbeliever having asp venom under his lips, not a criminal guilty of a notorious crime. And yet he now sits with Primianus as your bishop, and those whom he then baptized, never afterwards washed, you now have with you. And you still fight against the truth, and you do not concede that Christ always gives faith, that Christ is the origin of the Christian, that the Christian fixes his root in Christ, that Christ is the head of the Christian. To these words of mine placed in that letter against Petilianus, you add your own words and say: "This we also urge, this we wish, but we ask through whom this is better done," and you do not notice that Petilianus does not urge this, to whom I then responded and whose letter you are trying to defend and affirm against my reply. For he openly said: "The conscience of the giver who gives in a holy manner is what is attended to, which washes the receiver. For he who receives faith from a faithless person does not receive faith but guilt.
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dic mihi, quem locum Christo reliquerit ad abluendam conscientiam baptizati aut a quo fidem percipiat baptizatus, quando conscientiam dantis dicit attendi quae abluat accipientis, et non fidem percipere sed reatum, qui fidem sumit a perfido. tu quidem cedere uideris tanto ponderi ueritatis et dicis hoc te suadere et hoc uelle, ut Christus det fidem atque ad ineundam uitam nouam Christus abluat christianum, quaeris autem per quem melius fiat, quod sine ministro fieri non oportet. Petilianus tamen non dixit: conscientia ministrantis adtenditur, per quam Christus abluat accipientis aut per quam Christus det fidem', sed ipsa conconscientia dantis uoluit accipientis ablui conscientiam, nec dixit: (quisquis fidem per perfidum sumpserit non fidem percipit sed reatum', ut a Christo quamuis per alium sumere uideretur, sed omnino dixit: a perfido sumpserit atque ad hoc, quasi probaret, adiunxit: omnis enim res origine et radice consistit et, si caput non habeat aliquid, nihil est, ipsum scilicet ministrum, cuius conscientiam dixit attendi non per quam Christus abluat, sed quae abluat accipientis, ipsum prorsus ministrum originem, radicem caputque faciens baptizati.
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Tell me what place you leave for Christ to wash the conscience of the baptized, or from whom the baptized person receives faith, when you say that the conscience of the giver is to be regarded, which washes that of the recipient, and that one who takes faith from a faithless person does not receive faith but guilt. You indeed seem to yield to such a weight of truth and say that you are urging and wishing this, that Christ gives faith and that Christ washes the Christian for entering a new life, but you ask through whom it is better done, since it ought not to be done without a minister. Petilianus, however, did not say: 'the conscience of the minister is regarded, through which Christ washes the recipient' or 'through which Christ gives faith', but he wanted the conscience of the giver itself to wash the conscience of the recipient, nor did he say: 'whoever takes faith through a faithless person does not receive faith but guilt', so that he might seem to take it from Christ even though through another, but he said outright: 'takes from a faithless person', and to this, as if to prove it, he added: 'for every thing consists in its origin and root, and if it has no head, it is nothing', making the minister himself, whose conscience he said is regarded—not through which Christ washes, but which washes the recipient—the minister himself outright the origin, root, and head of the baptized.
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Proinde hoc loco non Petiliano, cuius uerba non defendisti, sed tibi respondeo, qui pro tua sententia nescio quid aliud, non quod ille, dixisti. tu enim, sicut scribis, hoc uis, hoc suades, ut non, sicut ille dixit, conscientia sancte dantis abluat accipientem uel accipienti det fidem neque ut ipsa sit origo et radix caputque credentis, sed per ipsam Christus abluat, per ipsam Christus det fidem, per ipsam Christus sit origo christiani, per ipsam in Christo radicem christianus infigat, per ipsam Christus christiani sit caput. ideo enim quaeris, per quem melius fiat quod a Christo fieri concedis, ubi et tu, quantum uideo, non negas hoc fieri posse etiam per ministrum malum, sed dicis melius posse per bonum. quid est enim aliud quod dicis: hoc et nos suademus, hoc uolumus, sed quaerimus per quem ?melius fiat? ac per hoc abluit Christus et per maculosam non sancte dantis, sed melius per mundam sancte dantis conscientiam, dat fidem Christus et per ministrum malum, sed melius per bonum, fit Christus origo christiani et per dispensatorem infidelem, sed melius per fidelem, christianus radicem figit in Christo etiam per colonum reprobum, sed melius per probum, potest Christus caput esse christiani et per Felicianum, sed melius existimas per Primianum.
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Therefore, at this point I am not responding to Petilianus, whose words you have not defended, but to you, who, in support of your own opinion, have said something else—not what he said. For you, as you write, wish and urge this: not that, as he said, the conscience of the giver, if holy, washes the recipient or gives faith to the recipient, nor that it is itself the origin, root, and head of the believer, but that through it Christ washes, through it Christ gives faith, through it Christ is the origin of the Christian, through it the Christian fixes his root in Christ, through it Christ is the head of the Christian. For you ask through whom what is conceded to be done by Christ is better done, where you, as far as I see, do not deny that this can be done even through a bad minister, but you say it can be better done through a good one. For what else is it that you say: "This we also urge, this we wish, but we ask through whom it is better done"? And so Christ washes even through a stained, unholy conscience of the giver, but better through a clean, holy conscience; Christ gives faith even through a bad minister, but better through a good one; Christ becomes the origin of the Christian even through an unfaithful dispenser, but better through a faithful one; the Christian fixes his root in Christ even through a reprobate tenant, but better through an upright one; Christ can be the head of the Christian even through Felicianus, but you think better through Primianus.
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Parua itaque inter nos in hac re aut fortasse nulla dissensio est. nam et ego dico melius per bonum ministrum quam per malum dispensari sacramenta diuina, uerum hoc propter ipsum ministrum melius est, ut eis rebus, quas ministrat, uita et moribus congruat, non propter illum, qui, etiamsi incurrerit in ministrum malum dispensantem ueritatem, securitatem accipit a domino suo monente ac dicente: quae dicunt facite, quae autem faciunt facere nolite. dicunt enim et non faciunt. addo etiam ad hoc esse melius, ut ille cui ministratur ministri boni probitatem ac sanctitatem diligendo facilius imitetur, sed non ideo ueriora et sanctiora sunt quae ministrantur, quia per meliorem ministrantur. illa namque per se ipsa uera et sancta sunt propter deum uerum et sanctum cuius sunt, et ideo fieri potest, ut accedens ad societatem populi dei alium inueniat a quo facile baptizetur, alium eligat quem salubriter imitetur. certus est enim sanctum esse sacramentum Christi, etiamsi per minus sanctum uel non sanctum hominem ministratum est, se autem eiusdem ipsius sacramenti sanctitate puniri, si indigne acceperit, si male usus fuerit, si non ei conuenienter et congrue uixerit.
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Therefore, on this matter there is little or perhaps no disagreement between us. For I too say that it is better for the divine sacraments to be administered through a good minister than through a bad one, but this is better for the minister himself, so that his life and conduct may accord with the things he administers, not for the recipient, who, even if he has fallen in with a bad minister dispensing the truth, receives security from his Lord, who warns and says: "Do what they say, but do not do what they do; for they say and do not do." I add also that it is better for the one to whom the sacrament is administered to more easily imitate the probity and sanctity of a good minister by loving them, but the things administered are not therefore truer and holier because they are administered through a better minister. For they are true and holy in themselves because of the true and holy God to whom they belong, and therefore it can happen that one approaching the fellowship of the people of God finds one person by whom he is easily baptized, and chooses another whom he may salubriously imitate. For it is certain that the sacrament of Christ is holy, even if administered by a less holy or unholy man, but that he himself is punished by the sanctity of that same sacrament if he receives it unworthily, if he uses it badly, if he does not live in a manner fitting and congruent with it.
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Nam quaero abs te: si forte, quem Primianus in uestra communione baptizauit, pessime uiuat, quem uero Felicianus in Maximiani schismate baptizauit, optime uiuat, cuinam eorum patere existimas regnum dei, utrum ei, quem baptizauit secundum te bonus malum, an ei, quem baptizauit secundum Bagaiense concilium sacrilegus religiosum? sed forte dicis et uerum dicis: 'non potest esse religiosus in schismate constitutus*. assentio. uerumtamen potest esse in uestra communione sacrilegus uel occultus a Primiano, quem religiosum creditis, baptizatus. porro si ille, quem Felicianus in catena sacrilegii baptizauit, relicto schismatis sacrilegio ecclesiastica communione corrigeretur, numquid audes dicere, quod melior in illo baptismus fieret, quamuis negare non audeas ipsum hominem fieri potuisse meliorem? hoc enim et ipso facto iudicastis, quandoquidem illos omnes, quos Felicianus et Praetextatus in damnato et detestato a uobis sacrilegio schismatis baptizarunt, cum illis ad uos redeuntibus sine ulla destructione uel repetitione baptismi suscepistis.
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For I ask of you: if it so happens that the one whom Primianus baptized in your communion lives very wickedly, while the one whom Felicianus baptized in the schism of Maximianus lives very righteously, to which of them do you think the kingdom of God lies open—to the one whom, according to you, a good man baptized, though he is evil, or to the one whom, according to the Council of Bagai, a sacrilegious man baptized, though he is religious? But perhaps you will say, and say truly: 'No one can be religious while placed in schism.' I agree. Nevertheless, it is possible for someone in your communion, baptized by Primianus, whom you believe to be religious, to be a sacrilegious person, whether openly or in secret. Moreover, if that man whom Felicianus baptized in the chain of sacrilege were to be corrected by abandoning the sacrilege of schism and entering into ecclesiastical communion, would you dare to say that the baptism in him would become better, even though you would not dare to deny that the man himself could have become better? For you yourselves judged this by the very fact, since you received all those whom Felicianus and Praetextatus baptized in the sacrilege of schism, which you condemned and detested, when they returned to you, without any destruction or repetition of baptism.
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si autem, quod dixisti: sed quaerimus per quem melius fiat fiat, conparatiuum gradum pro positiuo posuisti, sic dicens: quaerimus per quem melius fiat, ac si diceres: 'quaerimus per quem bene fiat', uolens intellegi per malum ministrum male fieri, non te uerbo urgeo, sed admoneo potius te dicere debuisse: 'quaerimus per quem fiat' quam: 'quaerimus per quem bene fiat', quasi posset fieri, ut non bene Christus det fidem, non bene sit Christus origo caputque christiani, non bene radix figatur in Christo. aut enim non fit aut, si fit, procul dubio bene fit. Uerumtamen ista tractamus, ne propter malos dispensatores non tamen suorum, sed dominicorum sacramentorum, quos necesse est usque ad tempus uentilationis areae dominicae commisceri, deseratur ipsa unitas frumentorum. schisma autem facere ab unitate Christi aut esse in schismate profecto malum est et magnum malum, nec omnino fieri potest, ut Christus det schismatico non fidem, sed sacrilegum errorem. aut in Christo radicem schismaticus fixerit aut schismatico Christus sit origo uel caput, et tamen baptismum Christi si dederit datum erit, si acceperit acceptum erit, non ad uitam aeternam, sed ad poenam aeternam, si in eo sacrilegio perseuerauerit non in malum conuertendo bonum quod habet, sed malo suo bonum habendo quamdiu malus habet.
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But as for what you said: "But we ask through whom it is better done" — you placed the comparative degree for the positive, saying: "we ask through whom it is better done," as if you were saying: "we ask through whom it is well done," intending it to be understood that through a bad minister it is done badly. I do not press you on the word, but rather I advise you that you ought to have said: "we ask through whom it is done" rather than "we ask through whom it is well done," as if it could happen that Christ does not give faith well, that Christ is not well the origin and head of a Christian, that the root is not well fixed in Christ. For either it is not done, or, if it is done, it is without doubt well done. Nevertheless, we discuss these matters lest, on account of bad dispensers — not of their own sacraments, but of the Lord's sacraments, who must of necessity be mixed in until the time of winnowing on the Lord's threshing-floor — the unity of the grain itself be abandoned. But to make a schism from the unity of Christ, or to be in schism, is certainly an evil and a great evil, and it can in no way happen that Christ gives to a schismatic not faith, but a sacrilegious error. Nor can a schismatic fix his root in Christ, nor can Christ be the origin or head for a schismatic, and yet if a schismatic gives the baptism of Christ, it will have been given; if he receives it, it will have been received — not for eternal life, but for eternal punishment, if he persists in that sacrilege, not by turning the good he has into evil, but by having the good with his own evil as long as the evil man has it.
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Quaeris forte ut hoc probem. quid aliud tibi dicam nisi quod hoc opere institui? Bagaiense decretum lege, Felicianum et Praetextatum intuere. schismatici dederunt, (schismatici acceperunt); utrique a uobis recepti et collecti sunt, nec illi degradati nec illi rebaptizati. iam certe non quaeris, utrum fiat melius per iustum ministrum an per int iustum, quoniam non ideo est baptismus melior quem dedit Primianus secundum uos iustus, quam ille quem dedit Felicianus iniustus. certe iam intellegere cogeris, quomodo apostolus dixerit: neque qui plantat est aliquid neque qui rigat, sed qui incrementum dat deus, teque frustra dixisse recolis: sicut qui plantat et rigat non nisi colonus diligens et fidelis inquiritur, sic etiam in sacramento baptismatis non nisi iustissimus operarius adprobatur. ecce nec diligens nec fidelis nec iustissimus, sed potius salutis suae neglegens et infidelis et iniustissimus Felicianus fuit, quando Maximiano sociatus et, sicut trecenti et decem uestri unius ore disertissimo personant, in catena sacrilegii constitutus baptismum, quem non ausi estis rescindere, ministrauit.
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Perhaps you ask me to prove this. What else shall I say to you but what I have undertaken in this work? Read the decree of Bagai, look at Felicianus and Praetextatus. Schismatics gave it, schismatics received it; both were received and gathered by you, and neither were they degraded nor were they rebaptized. Surely now you do not ask whether it is better done through a just minister or through an unjust one, since the baptism given by Primianus, according to you a just man, is not better than that given by the unjust Felicianus. Certainly now you are compelled to understand how the Apostle said: "Neither is the planter anything, nor the waterer, but God who gives the increase," and you recall that you said in vain: "Just as the planter and waterer is sought only as a diligent and faithful farmer, so also in the sacrament of baptism only the most just worker is approved." Behold, Felicianus was neither diligent nor faithful nor most just, but rather negligent of his own salvation, unfaithful, and most unjust, when, associated with Maximianus and, as your three hundred and ten with one most eloquent voice proclaim, placed in the chain of sacrilege, he administered baptism, which you did not dare to annul.
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Certe ad hanc causam cernis non pertinere testimonium, quod ex propheta posuisti: dabo uobis pastores secundum cor meum, et pascent uos pascentes cum disciplina. Felicianus enim nec secundum cor dei sacrilegus erat nec oues eius in sacrilego schismate pascebat cum disciplina, et tamen baptizabat eos, in quibus receptis cognouistis non ipsius, sed dei fuisse quod dabat. certe perspicis, quomodo a me de scriptura sancta commemoratum est bonum esse confidere in domino quam confidere in homine, teque inaniter, quantum ad hanc causam pertinet, respondisse, quod ideo magis ut iustus et fidelis sit per quem hoc sacramentum celebretur inquiras, quia spem et fiduciam dei, non hominis habes, dei esse autem fidem atque iustitiam, quam semper in eius ministris adtendis. ecce in Feliciano, quando fuit famosi criminis reus, nec iustitia nec fides erat, et tamen baptismus erat et quibus ab eo datus est, cum a uobis collecti sunt, eis accessisse iustitiam dicitis, baptismum defuisse non dicitis.
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Certainly you see that the testimony you cited from the prophet does not pertain to this case: "I will give you shepherds after my heart, and they will pasture you, pasturing with discipline." For Felicianus was not a sacrilegious man after the heart of God, nor did he pasture his sheep in a sacrilegious schism with discipline, and yet he baptized those in whom, when you received them, you recognized that what he gave was not his own but God's. Certainly you perceive how I have recalled from holy scripture that it is good to trust in the Lord rather than to trust in a man, and that you have replied in vain, so far as this case is concerned, that you inquire all the more that the man through whom this sacrament is celebrated be just and faithful, because you have hope and trust in God, not in a man, and that you always attend to God's faith and justice in his ministers. Behold, in Felicianus, when he was accused of a notorious crime, there was neither justice nor faith, and yet there was baptism; and you say that justice accrued to those to whom it was given by him, when they were gathered by you, but you do not say that baptism was lacking.
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Proinde quod deinceps a me quaeris: si a quo, cumque et quomodocumque datum baptisma rescindi non debet, cur post Iohannem apostoli baptizauerint, tu iam solue quaestionem, si, ut dicis, post Iohannem apostoli baptizauerint. cur post Felicianum quos in sacrilego schismate baptizauerat uestri non baptizauerint, et hinc saltem disce, quidquid illud est quod de Iohannis baptismo uel legitur uel disseritur, ab hac causa esse penitus alienum. quid autem tibi uisum sit nescio, ut Iudaeos, quibus ait Petrus: bapti?etur unusquisque uestrum in nomine domini Iesu Christi, iam fuisse a Moyse diceres baptizatos, qui post tot generationes nati fuerunt quam ille dei famulus maiores eorum per Rubram Mare transiecit. aut si propterea a Moyse baptismum habebant, quia ex illis propagati sunt quos in Moyse baptizatos dicit apostolus, aude dicere omnes, qui nascuntur ex fidelibus christianis, christianum habere iam baptismum. quod uides, ut arbitror, quanta uanitate dicatur. sed quomodo se habeat illud, etiamsi post Moysen dei famulum apostoli baptizassent, te urgerem reddere rationem, cur post Felicianum Maxiraianensem sacrilegum uestri non baptizassent.
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Therefore, as for what you next ask of me: if a baptism, once given by anyone and in any way, ought not to be rescinded, why did the apostles baptize after John? You yourself now solve the question, if, as you say, the apostles baptized after John. Why did your people not baptize after Felicianus, whom he had baptized in a sacrilegious schism? And from this at least learn that whatever is read or discussed concerning John's baptism is utterly foreign to this case. But I do not know what you thought, that you would say that the Jews, to whom Peter said, "Let each of you be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ," had already been baptized by Moses, when they were born many generations after that servant of God led their ancestors through the Red Sea. Or if they had baptism from Moses because they were propagated from those whom the apostle says were baptized in Moses, dare to say that all who are born from Christian believers already have Christian baptism. This, I think, you see is said with great vanity. But however that matter stands, even if the apostles had baptized after Moses, the servant of God, I would press you to give the reason why your people did not baptize after Felicianus, the sacrilegious Maximianist.
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Iam illud, quod posui: si errabant illi qui uolebant esse Pauli, quae tandem spes eorum est qui uolunt esse Donati?, prioribus partibus epistulae tuae non te refellisse puto, quod etiam ipse consideras in his, quae superius satis diximus. non ergo, sicut tibi uideris et quasi certus exultas, illa omnia, quae a Petiliano uel quolibet alio dicta sunt, recte dicta concludis. ipso quippe ordine, quo a te breuiter uelut recolendo reminiscendo decursa sunt, ego potius in hac causa Maximianensium non ea recte dicta concludo. quia nec conscientia sancte dantis erat in Feliciano, quando Maximiano cohaerens catena sacrilegii trahebatur, et a famosi criminis reo ac per hoc a manifesto perfido baptizabantur qui ab illo baptizabantur, nec origo et radix et caput ad salutem illis erat homo sacrilegus nec arbor bona erat in sacrilegi schismatis societate damnatus et adhuc in eodem sacrilegio constitutus, nec bonus erat qui de bono thesauro cordis sui proferret bona, quando de illo et de aliis eius sociis dicebatur: quorum maledictione et amaritudine plenum est. et tamen, quando cum illo uestri concordauerunt, baptismum quem talis dederat non ipsius esse, sed Christi aliquando ui ueritatis territi cognouerunt.
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Now, as for the point I raised: if those who wished to be followers of Paul were in error, what hope is there for those who wish to be followers of Donatus? I do not think you have refuted this in the earlier parts of your letter, as you yourself consider in what we have sufficiently discussed above. Therefore, it is not, as you seem to yourself and as if certain you exult, that you conclude that all those things said by Petilianus or by anyone else were rightly said. Indeed, by the very order in which you have briefly run through them, as if recollecting and recalling, I rather conclude in this case of the Maximianists that these things were not rightly said. For neither was there a holy conscience in the giver in Felicianus, when he was dragged along, adhering to Maximianus in the chain of sacrilege, and those who were baptized by him were baptized by a defendant of notorious crime and thus by a manifest faithless person; nor was the origin and root and head for salvation for them a sacrilegious man; nor was he a good tree who was condemned in the fellowship of a sacrilegious schism and still established in the same sacrilege; nor was he good who would bring forth good from the good treasury of his heart, when it was said of him and of his other associates: "with whose curse and bitterness it is full." And yet, when your people made peace with him, they recognized, at times terrified by the force of truth, that the baptism given by such a man was not his own, but Christ's.
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Age iam uideamus suo loco, in epistula tua de Maximianensium causa quomodo te exuas. omnes enim, qui has litteras legunt, expectant procul dubio uel quid hinc a te dictum sit ubi dictum est uel a me quid responsum sit. itaque de Optato Gildoniano quod obiectis meis respondisti, nolo discutere, nolo in hominis causa, de cuius a uestris damnatione nihil ago, diutius immorari. facio certe iacturam huius obiecti, et hoc fortasse apud posteros, cum illius fuerit oblitterata memoria. nunc uero, quamdiu sunt homines, qui uitam illius moresque nouerunt, parum me de illo dixisse quam falsum potius conquerentur. neque enim sic legunt litteras nostras ut tu, qui ex me quaeris, ille quem tamquam rabidum fluctum appellauerim quid absorbuerit, cum illic habeas Praetextatum et Felicianum. nam uerba mea illic sic se habent: ita quidem, inquam. isti insultant schismaticis suis, ut eos et mortuos et insepultos uocent. sed certe optare debuerunt ut sepelirentur, ne de multitudine iacentium in litore cadauerum insepultorum Gildonianus Optatus incedens cum agmine militari tamquam rabidus fluctus ultra prosiliens Felicianum et Praetextatum introrsus postea resorberet. haec uerba mea cum ibi legeris, cur non omnia posuisti, cum eis respondere temptares?
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Now let us see, in its proper place, how you extricate yourself in your letter concerning the case of the Maximianists. For all who read these letters are undoubtedly waiting either for what you have said on this point where it was said, or for what I have replied. Therefore, as for what you answered to my objections concerning Optatus Gildonianus, I do not wish to discuss it, I do not wish to linger longer in the case of a man whose condemnation by your party is of no concern to me. I certainly suffer the loss of this objection, and this perhaps among posterity, when his memory has been obliterated. But now, as long as there are men who knew his life and character, they will complain that I have said too little about him rather than that I have said something false. For you do not read my letters as I do, you who ask of me what that man, whom I called a raging wave, swallowed up, when you have there Praetextatus and Felicianus. For my words there run thus: "Thus indeed," I say, "do these men insult their schismatics, calling them both dead and unburied. But surely they ought to have wished them to be buried, lest, from the multitude of corpses lying unburied on the shore, Optatus Gildonianus, advancing with his military column like a raging wave, leaping beyond, should later suck back Felicianus and Praetextatus within." When you read these words of mine there, why did you not set them all down, when you attempted to reply to them?
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cur me ueluti arguis non dixisse quid rabidus fluctus ille sorbuerit, cum ibi scriptum uideas: Felicianum et Praetextatum introrsus postea resorberet? Quid enim aliud uelut ad magnam defensionem suam respondere uestri solent, cum eis obicitur Praetextati et Feliciani talis receptio damnatorum, nisi: 'Optatus hoc uoluit. Optatus hoc fecit'? quod et ipsae ciuitates Mustitana et Adsuritana testantur, quae se dicunt ex Optati comminatione Gildonianum militem formidantes coegisse episcopos suos ad communionem redire Primiani. uerum tu, quia hoc ab illo factum (non) inpudenter negari posse uidisti, hoc a me scriptum negasti, magis fortassis existimans litteras meas quam illam rem posse nesciri. sed licuerit episcopis uestris nescio quo Donatiano uel Numidico priuilegio de suo ignorare collega quidquid tota Africa conclamabat, cum Afris ab Afris obiecta crimina numquam probata, totiens absoluta orientalibus et occidentalibus terrae finibus ignota esse non sinant; ualeat apud uos baptismus ab Optato datus, quem sic damnare noluisti.
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why do you accuse me, as if I had not said what that raging wave swallowed, when you see written there: that it would later swallow back Felicianus and Praetextatus inwardly? For what else do your people usually reply, as if it were a great defense of theirs, when the reception of the condemned Praetextatus and Felicianus is thrown in their faces, except: 'Optatus wanted this. Optatus did this'? This is also testified to by the cities of Mustitana and Adsuritana themselves, which say that, fearing the Gildonian soldier because of Optatus's threat, they compelled their bishops to return to communion with Primianus. But you, because you saw that it could not be shamelessly denied that this was done by him, denied that it was written by me, perhaps thinking that my letter could be unknown rather than that matter. But let it be permitted to your bishops, by some Donatian or Numidian privilege, to be ignorant of their colleague whatever all Africa was shouting, while crimes charged by Africans against Africans, never proven, so often absolved, are not allowed to be unknown to the eastern and western ends of the earth; let the baptism given by Optatus be valid among you, which you were unwilling to condemn in this way.
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ut tamen non fueris ausus absoluere, et non ualeat datus baptismus in ecclesiis apostolico labore fundatis Corinthiorum Galatarum Ephesiorum Colossensium Philippensium Thessalonicensium ceterarumque in sanctis litteris quas et uos legitis conscriptarum, ubi Caeciliani non dico falsum illud crimen, sed forte nec uerum nomen auditum est; habuerit conscientiam sancte dantis Optatus in illa uita, quam tu, sicut scripta tua indicant, etiamsi propter nos damnare erubuisti, tamen propter deum absoluere timuisti. in illa etiam publica fama, ubi latentem tibi uisum est attendi posse conscientiam, et accusetur conscientia tot tantarumque gentium christianarum, quia remotissimas lites ignorauit Afrorum: numquid etiam crimina istorum, Feliciani scilicet et Praetextati, quos trecenti et decem plenario concilio damnauerunt, similiter ignorare potuerunt?
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yet you did not dare to absolve him, and the baptism given in churches founded by apostolic labor—those of the Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Colossians, Philippians, Thessalonians, and the others recorded in the sacred scriptures, which you also read, where not I say the false charge against Caecilianus, but perhaps not even his true name has been heard—does not hold; whether Optatus had the conscience of one giving holy baptism in that life of his, which you, as your writings indicate, although you blushed to condemn on our account, yet you feared to absolve on God’s account. In that public reputation as well, where you thought the hidden conscience could be attended to, the conscience of so many and such great Christian peoples is accused, because they were ignorant of the very remote African disputes: could they also have been ignorant of the crimes of those men, namely Felicianus and Praetextatus, whom a plenary council of three hundred and ten condemned?
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Et adhuc obicis unitati catholicae nescio qua facta nostrorum, quae aut falsa sunt aut peccata non sunt aut, etiamsi uera atque peccata sunt, bonorum societatem maculare non possunt.
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And still you throw in the face of the Catholic unity some deeds of our people, which are either false or are not sins, or, even if they are true and are sins, cannot stain the fellowship of the good.
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neque enim boni communicant peccatis alienis, quibus utique faciendis non consentiunt, quamuis cum ipsis, qui ea faciunt, donec de area dominica sicut palea uentilabro ultimo separentur, non eorum peccata, sed dei sacramenta communicent et intra eandem sagenam uelut pisces boni cum malis usque ad separationem, quae in litore, hoc est in fine saeculi tamquam in fine maris futura est, non ab eis corporum segregatione, sed uitae ac morum diuersitate disiuncti sint; sicut nec undecim apostoli furtis Iudae communicabant et tamen cum illo eidem domino uisibiliter cohaerebant, eundem magistrum audiebant, idem credendum euangelium percipiebant, eadem sacramenta sumebant, corporali cum illo congregatione permixti, spiritali dissimilitudine separati; sicut apostolus Paulus non communicabat contumaciae et inuidiae, hoc est diabolicis uitiis eorum, qui non caste Christum adnuntiabant, et tamen cum eis eundem Christum praedicabat, eiusdem Christi sacramenta participabat et de his dicebat: siue occasione siue ueritate Christus adnuntietur - nam hos martyr Cyprianus amantissimus unitatis non aliquo schismate uel haerese separatos, sed fratribus corporali congregatione fuisse commixtos et intellexit et scripsit —; sicut idem ipse Cyprianus auaritiae rapinis faenori collegarum non communicabat, quos dicebat e sur i en t i bus in ecclesia fratribus habere argentum largiter uelle, fundos
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For the good do not share in the sins of others, to the commission of which they certainly do not consent, even though, until they are separated from the Lord’s threshing-floor like chaff by the final winnowing-fan, they share with those who commit them not their sins but the sacraments of God, and within the same net, like good fish with bad, until the separation which will take place on the shore, that is, at the end of the world as at the end of the sea, they are not separated from them by bodily segregation but are distinguished by the diversity of life and character; just as the eleven apostles did not share in the thefts of Judas and yet visibly clung with him to the same Lord, heard the same teacher, received the same gospel to be believed, took the same sacraments, mingled with him in bodily congregation, separated by spiritual unlikeness; just as the apostle Paul did not share in the stubbornness and envy, that is, the diabolical vices, of those who did not announce Christ chastely, and yet with them he preached the same Christ, participated in the same sacraments of Christ, and said of them: “whether by occasion or by truth Christ is announced” — for the martyr Cyprian, most loving of unity, understood and wrote that these were not separated by any schism or heresy, but were mingled with the brethren in bodily congregation —; just as the same Cyprian himself did not share in the avarice, robberies, and usury of his colleagues, whom he said, while brothers were hungering in the church, wished to have silver abundantly, estates
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insidiosis fraudibus rapere, usuris multiplicantibus faenus augere, quod malum etiam idololatriae conparauit, quorum tamen corporalem congregationem non refugiebat, ad eadem altaria consistebat, eundem sacratissimum cibum potumque sumebat. illi enim non aliis, sed sibi iudicium manducabant et bibebant, ille autem cum talibus non eorum peccata, sed mysteria Christi communicabat, coniunctissimus coetibus, disiunctissimus moribus. ad hoc enim et illae similitudines in scripturis et illa exempla praemissa sunt, ut disceremus frumentum esse nec aream dominicam propter paleae commixtionem deserere, pisces boni esse nec propter commixtionem malorum disruptis retibus foras ire, uasa esse misericordiae in honore facta atque mundata nec propter uasa perditionis et contumeliae de domo magna fugere. nulla enim causa in utrorumque temporali congregatione atque permixtione laudabiliter tolerantur mali, nisi ne damnabiliter deserantur boni. quod cum et uos in uestris tam multis et tam manifestis malis eadem necessitate faciatis, potes facile, si uelis, aduertere, quod non nisi animositate sacrilega uos a christianis tot ac tantis gentibus separatis.
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are carried away by deceitful frauds, to increase usury by multiplying interest—an evil which he even compared to idolatry—yet he did not flee their physical assembly, stood at the same altars, and partook of the same most sacred food and drink. For they ate and drank judgment not for others but for themselves, whereas he, among such persons, communicated not their sins but the mysteries of Christ, most closely united in gatherings, most widely separated in morals. For this reason those similitudes in the Scriptures and those examples were set forth, that we might learn that the grain is not to abandon the Lord’s threshing-floor because of the admixture of chaff, that the good fish are not to go out through broken nets because of the admixture of the bad, that the vessels of mercy made and cleansed in honor are not to flee from the great house because of the vessels of perdition and dishonor. For there is no reason why the evil are laudably tolerated in the temporal congregation and intermingling of both, except that the good may not be damnably abandoned. And since you, in your own so many and so manifest evils, do the same out of necessity, you can easily perceive, if you wish, that it is only with sacrilegious animosity that you separate yourselves from so many and so great Christian peoples.
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Itaque non solum Optatus in illa Gildoniana societate notissimus, sed quilibet obscurus apud uos te sciente . mali aliquid fecerit, cum eum non potueris a uestra communione separare, quia uel non tibi creditur accusanti uel accusare non audes, ne non ualeas conprobare, aut deserenda tibi est pars Donati aut talis eris, qualis ille cuius peccatum non ignoras, quamuis dissimiliter uiuas. hoc non secundum ueram, sed secundum uestram sententiam uobis rectissime dicitur. quis enim nescit te alienum esse ab illius malo, si consensione peccato eius non communicas? sed hinc agnoscere cogeris. quanta impietate obiciatis orbi christiano uel falsa uel certe ignota crimina Afrorum, cum tibi obici nolis quod de altero scis, quia hoc eis non potes persuadere, a quorum non uis societate discedere. ita, ne deseras quos putas bonos, ferre cogeris quos nosti malos, ac per hoc omnes conuincit ueritas malos, qui propter aliena crimina seu uera seu falsa, ceteris tamen incognita, sibi autem non offutura. disrupta unitate tot gentium deseruerunt bonos. hoc tam magnum nefas partis Donati ne aliquo modo excusare possetis, causa uobis Maximianensium procurata est, in quo uelut speculo uestram prauitatem conspectam, si uolueritis, corrigatis, si autem nolueritis — nolo quicquam grauius dicere, quando scio te cor habere. quid enim contra ista dicturus es?
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Therefore, not only is Optatus, that most notorious figure in the Gildonian association, but any obscure person among you, with your knowledge, if he has done something evil, and you have been unable to separate him from your communion—either because you are not believed when you accuse him, or you dare not accuse him lest you be unable to prove it—then either you must abandon the Donatist party, or you will be just like that man whose sin you do not ignore, even if you live dissimilarly. This is said to you most correctly, not according to the true standard, but according to your own opinion. For who does not know that you are alien to that man’s evil if you do not communicate by consenting to his sin? But from this you will be forced to recognize with how great impiety you cast upon the Christian world either false or certainly unknown crimes of Africans, when you are unwilling to have it cast against you that you know something about another, because you cannot persuade those from whose society you are unwilling to depart. Thus, lest you abandon those whom you consider good, you are forced to endure those whom you know to be evil; and by this, truth convicts all as evil who, on account of others’ crimes—whether true or false, yet unknown to the rest, and not harmful to themselves—have broken the unity of so many nations and abandoned the good. This so great a crime of the Donatist party, that you might in no way excuse it, the case of the Maximianists was procured for you, in which, as in a mirror, you may, if you wish, correct your own depravity when it is seen; but if you do not wish—I do not wish to say anything harsher, since I know you have a heart. For what will you say against these things?
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Bene quia ipse scribis, cum de Maximianensibus damnatis et receptis legisses totum quod inserui litteris meis, ualde te fuisse permotum. credo: prorsus uideo causam quae ualde debuerit permouere. uideamus ergo, tua ista permotio quanam reddita ratione sedata est. statim te dicis a uestris episcopis diligentius inquisisse atque ipsis docentibus et decretum concilii et sententiam in eos qui damnati sunt dictam et rei totius ordinem cognouisse. deinde etiam me credens adhuc ignorare quid gestum sit atque admonens, ut quid habeat ueritas discerem, narrasti plane non quid ueritas habeat, sed quid incautis et neglegentibus uestri pro ueritate subponant. dicis enim, cum quam plurimos episcopos error sibi Maximiani sociare contenderet, contracto a uestris concilio in eos omnes, qui in eius schismate perstitissent, prolatam esse sententiam, quam me quoque legisse commemoras. quae cum sententia consensu omnium firmaretur, placuisse tamen decreto concilii dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur.
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Well, because you yourself write that when you had read about the condemned and received Maximianists everything that I inserted into my letter, you were greatly disturbed. I believe it: I clearly see the reason that ought to have disturbed you greatly. Let us therefore see by what reasoning your disturbance was calmed. You say that you immediately inquired more diligently from your bishops, and that, with them teaching you, you learned both the decree of the council and the sentence pronounced against those who were condemned, and the whole order of events. Then, also believing that I still did not know what had been done, and admonishing me to learn what truth holds, you narrated plainly not what truth holds, but what your people put forward to the incautious and negligent as truth. For you say that when the error of Maximianus was trying to associate as many bishops as possible with itself, a council was convened by your people, and a sentence was pronounced against all those who persisted in his schism, which you also mention that I have read. And when this sentence was confirmed by the consensus of all, it was nevertheless decided by the decree of the council that a period of delay be given, within which, if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be considered innocent.
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sic esse factum, ut non solum duo illi quos memoro, sed etiam multi alii purgati atque innocentes ecclesiae redderentur, quorum ideo putas baptisma non debuisse rescindi, quia intra diem praestitutum restituti peremptoria sententia non tenerentur nec, cum baptizarent, fuissent ab ecclesia separati, necdum scilicet transacti temporis meta definita disiuncti. hic ego in ea ipsa falsitate narrationis tuae, quandoquidem non solum sententias, uerum et ipsa uerba tua posui, miror ingenium tuum, miror animum ingenio reluctantem. numquam uspiam sic apparuit, quantum ualeat praeiudicium praesumptionis humanae uel ad non intuendam manifestissimam ueritatem uel ad adfirmandam inpudentissimam falsitatem. itane te tam aperte repugnantia posuisse non sentis, ut uix credibile sit, quod unus homo dicere utraque potuerit? tu nempe dicis in eos omnes, qui in Maximiani schismate perstitissent, prolatam esse sententiam et placuisse dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur. quomodo ergo tu ipse item dicis non eos extra ecclesiam baptizasse, antequam se ab illo schismate correxissent? sic, quando cum Maximiano erant, non erant extra ecclesiam? aduertisne quid dicas, inuenis qua exeas, quo confugias. ubi te abscondas?
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So it happened that not only those two whom I mention, but also many others, were restored to the church as purged and innocent. You think their baptism ought not to have been rescinded because, having been restored within the appointed day, they were not bound by the peremptory sentence, nor were they separated from the church when they baptized, since the defined limit of time had not yet passed and they were not yet cut off. Here, in that very falsity of your account—since I have set down not only the judgments but also your own words—I marvel at your talent, I marvel at a mind that struggles against that talent. Never has it appeared so clearly how much the prejudice of human presumption can accomplish, either in preventing the clearest truth from being seen or in asserting the most shameless falsehood. Do you not perceive that you have set down such openly contradictory statements that it is scarcely credible that one man could have uttered both? You say, indeed, that a sentence was pronounced against all who persisted in the schism of Maximianus, and that it was decided to grant a period of delay, within which if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be considered innocent. How then can you also say that they did not baptize outside the church before they had corrected themselves from that schism? So, when they were with Maximianus, were they not outside the church? Do you notice what you are saying? Do you find a way out, a place to flee, a place to hide?
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Uides certe, dum manifestos errores defendere conaris alienos, nihil te agere nisi subiungere manifestiores tuos. ecce lege uerba tua — sic a me prorsus commemorantur ut a te scripta sunt —: cum cum plurimos, inquis, episcopos error sibi Maximiani sociare contendere, contracto a nostris concilio in eos omnes, qui in eius schismate perstitissent, prolata sententia est, quam in quoque tu legisse testaris. quae cum sententia consensu omnium firmaretur, placuit tamen decreto concilii dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur. haec dicens sicine contra te ipsum sensus claudis, ut non aduertas, quod hi omnes, qui propterea contra se ferri sententiam concilii meruerunt, quia Maximiano sociabantur. antequam se intra dilationis tempus corrigerent. in eodem schismate consistebant? ibi ergo etiam baptizabant. obsecro te: quid inanem caliginem perspicuis rebus aspergis, quam rursus tuorum uerborum non minore perspicuitate dispergis? dico enim Praetextatum et Felicianum Maximiani ordinatores in eo quod commiserunt sacrilego schismate baptizasse et ab eis baptizatos cum eis esse susceptos non rescisso baptismate, quod in schismate dederant, quod sacrilegi ministrauerant, quod ore maledictione pleno, quod labiis cum ueneno aspidum consecrauerant. talia quippe in eos dicuntur ea sententia, quam in eos omnes prolatam esse non negas.
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You certainly see that, while you try to defend the manifest errors of others, you accomplish nothing except to add your own even more manifest errors. Behold, read your own words—they are recalled by me exactly as you wrote them: "When," you say, "the error of Maximianus strove to associate many bishops with itself, a council of ours was convened, and a sentence was pronounced against all those who had persisted in his schism, which sentence you testify that you have read in each case. And when that sentence was confirmed by the consent of all, it was nevertheless decided by a decree of the council that a period of delay be given, within which, if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be considered innocent." In saying this, do you not so close your eyes against yourself that you fail to notice that all those who, for that reason, deserved to have the council's sentence brought against them because they were associating with Maximianus, before they corrected themselves within the period of delay, were standing in that same schism? There, therefore, they were also baptizing. I implore you: why do you scatter empty darkness over clear matters, which you then again disperse with no less clarity from your own words? For I say that Praetextatus and Felicianus, the ordainers of Maximianus, baptized in the sacrilegious schism which they committed, and that those baptized by them were received along with them without the baptism being rescinded—the baptism which they had given in schism, which they had administered as sacrilegious men, which they had consecrated with a mouth full of curses, with lips as of asps' venom. For such things are said about them in that sentence which you do not deny was pronounced against all of them.
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Hic tu respondes, quod non solum duo isti quos memoro, sed etiam multi alii purgati atque innocentes intra diem dilationis se ecclesiae reddiderunt. quo uerbo me adiuuas, quo uerbo mecum asseris ueritatem caliginemque illam, quam conabaris offundere, discutis. cum enim dicis eos se ecclesiae reddidisse, procul dubio fateris eos extra ecclesiam fuisse. ubi ergo antequam se ecclesiae redderent fuerunt, ibi baptizauerunt; ergo extra ecclesiam baptisma fuit quod dederunt. ab hoc inexplicabili inplicamento dum te conaris euoluere, rursus inuolueris. dicis enim ideo eorum baptisma non debuisse rescindi, quia intra diem praestitutum restituti peremptoria sententia non tenerentur. quomodo ergo dicis ante diem restitutionis non fuisse ab ecclesia separatos, quos ante diem dilationis confiteris ecclesiae restitutos? si homines sumus. si qualemcumque rationem, si sensum habemus humanum, si non pecora pecoribus, si non ligna et lapides lignis et lapidibus loquimur. non meis tantum, sed ipsis etiam tuis uerbis eminet apparet elucet in Maximiani sacrilego schismate baptismum datum uestros ausos non fuisse rescindere, qui homines baptizatos in ecclesiis, quas in gratia domini proprio labore apostoli propagarunt, non dubitant christianos negare exsufflare rebaptizare.
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Here you respond that not only those two whom I mention, but also many others, after being cleared and found innocent, returned to the Church within the day of delay. By this statement you help me, by this statement you affirm the truth with me and dispel that darkness which you were trying to cast. For when you say that they returned to the Church, you undoubtedly confess that they were outside the Church. Where, then, were they before they returned to the Church? There they baptized; therefore the baptism they gave was outside the Church. While you try to extricate yourself from this inextricable entanglement, you become entangled again. For you say that their baptism ought not to have been rescinded because, within the appointed day, being restored, they would not be bound by the peremptory sentence. How, then, do you say that before the day of restoration they were not separated from the Church, when you confess that before the day of delay they were restored to the Church? If we are human beings, if we have any reason, if we have human sense, if we are not beasts speaking to beasts, if we are not wood and stones speaking to wood and stones—it stands out, appears, and shines forth not only from my words but from your own words as well, that in the sacrilegious schism of Maximianus, the baptism given was one which you did not dare to rescind, you who do not hesitate to deny, to exsufflate, and to rebaptize Christians baptized in churches which the apostles propagated by their own labor in the grace of the Lord.
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tu dicis, tu scribis — ecce te ipsum audi, lege te ipsum —, tu, inquam, dicis, tu scribis in eos omnes, qui in Maximiani schismate perstitissent, contracto a uestris concilio prolatam esse sententiam; tu dicis, tu scribis hac sententia consensu omnium confirmata placuisse tamen dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur; tu dicis, tu scribis non solum duos inde quos memoro, sed multos alios purgatos atque innocentes se uestrae ecclesiae reddidisse; tu dicis, tu scribis ideo eorum baptisma non debuisse rescindi, quia intra diem praestitutum restituti peremptoria sententia non tene. quomodo. Quid, quid tantum praeualet in ingenio tam bono causa tam mala, homo cordate, homo litterate?
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You say, you write—listen to yourself, read yourself—you, I say, you say, you write that a sentence was pronounced by a council assembled from your party against all those who persisted in the schism of Maximianus; you say, you write that this sentence, confirmed by the consent of all, nevertheless decided that a period of delay be granted, within which if anyone wished to be corrected he would be considered innocent; you say, you write that not only those two whom I mention, but many others, after being cleared and found innocent, returned to your church; you say, you write that their baptism ought not to have been rescinded because, having been restored within the appointed day, they are not bound by the peremptory sentence. How so? What, what so great power does such a bad cause have over such a good mind, you man of heart, you man of letters?
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isti, in quos propterea est illa prolata sententia, quia, sicut ipse dicis, in Maximiani schismate persistebant, antequam, sicut dicis, restituerentur, ubi erant ibi sacramenta celebrabant, ibi baptizabant et, ut uerbis illius plenarii concilii magis utar, ibi uiperei seminis noxios partus tardo calore uaporabant, ibi publici facinoris et parricidii sui feta scelerum uota gignebant, ibi parturiebant iniustitiam, concipiebant laborem et pariebant iniquitatem, ibi iam non confusa criminum silua nomina eorum designabantur ad poenam, ibi eis (in) indulgentiae fine, dum clementiae dimitteretur linea, iam causa quos puniret inuenerat, illuc eorum tamquam in asperos scopulos ueridica unda naufraga membra proiecerat, eorum pereuntium ibi erant litora Aegyptiorum exemplo funeribus plena, nec ipsam inuenientium sepulturam, ibi non solum Maximianum fidei aemulum, ueritatis adulterum, ecclesiae matris inimicum, Dathae, Corae et Abiron ministrum de pacis gremio sententiae fulmen excusserat nec solum mors iusta sui sceleris condemnabat, sed etiam trahebat ad consortium criminis plurimos catena sacrilegii, ibi erat uenenum aspidum sub labiis eorum, ibi eorum os maledictione et amaritudine plenum, ibi ueloces eorum pedes ad effundendum sanguinem, ibi contritio et infelicitas in uiis eorum, ibi uiam pacis non cognoscebant nec erat timor dei ante oculos eorum, ibi iacebant abscisa membra, quae
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Those against whom, for that reason, that sentence was pronounced, because, as you yourself say, they persisted in the schism of Maximianus, before they were, as you say, restored—where were they? There they celebrated the sacraments, there they baptized, and, to use the words of that plenary council more fully, there they "vaporized the noxious offspring of viperous seed with a slow heat," there they "gave birth to the votive offerings of their crimes of public outrage and parricide," there they "gave birth to injustice, conceived labor, and brought forth iniquity," there "the names of those already designated for punishment were marked out, no longer a confused forest of crimes," there "at the end of indulgence, while the line of clemency was being drawn, the case had already found whom it would punish," there "the truthful wave had cast their shipwrecked limbs onto them as onto rough rocks," there "the shores of the Egyptians, filled with corpses, were an example of their perishing, not even finding burial for themselves," there "not only had the thunderbolt of the sentence cast Maximianus, the rival of the faith, the adulterer of truth, the enemy of mother Church, the minister of Dathan, Korah, and Abiram, from the bosom of peace, nor had just death only condemned him for his own crime, but it also dragged many to the fellowship of crime by the chain of sacrilege," there "was the poison of asps under their lips," there "their mouth was full of curse and bitterness," there "their feet were swift to shed blood," there "was destruction and unhappiness in their ways," there "they did not know the way of peace, nor was there fear of God before their eyes," there "lay the severed limbs," which...
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pestifera putredo ita corruperat, ut plus haberet in abscisione solaminis quam in remissione medicaminis, ibi erant famosi criminis rei Uictorianus Carcabianensis et ceteri cum isto duodecim, inter quos Praetextatus Adsuritanus et Felicianus Mustitanus, de quibus receptis agimus, qui eundem Maximianum praesentes ordinauerant, hoc est funesto opere perditionis uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinauerant, ubi tanto facinori tamquam inlicito incestui clerici Carthaginis lenocinium praebuerunt. tales ministri sacramentorum nondum correcti, nondum uobis redditi ac restituti in schismate Maximiani baptizauerunt, post tales ministros sacramentorum correctos redditos restitutos uestri non rebaptizauerunt. Quid sola in uobis praeualet animositas? aliquando adtendatur, aliquando audiatur et ueritas. quid iniciuntur inanissimae nebulae dilationis datae? non ipsis data est, de quibus dictum est: damnatos esse cognoscite, de quibus etiam praedictum est quales fuerint, quid fecerint, cur eos oportuerit iam sine dilatione damnari, quod scilicet Maximianum inpositis manibus praesentes ordinauerunt; hoc est enim quod significarunt dicendo, quod funesto opere perditionis uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinauerint. illis autem data est dilatio, qui ordinationi Maximiani non interfuerunt quamuis in eius societate atque schismate constituti.
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The pestilential rot had so corrupted that there was more comfort in amputation than in the remedy of remission; there were the accused of a notorious crime, Victorianus of Carcabiana and the others with him, twelve in number, among whom were Praetextatus of Adsuritana and Felicianus of Mustitana, concerning whose reception we are dealing, who had been present and had ordained the same Maximianus, that is, with a deadly work of perdition they had glued together a filthy vessel with collected dregs, where the clergy of Carthage provided the pimping for such a crime as if for an illicit incest. Such ministers of the sacraments, not yet corrected, not yet returned and restored to you, baptized in the schism of Maximianus; after such ministers of the sacraments, corrected, returned, restored, your people did not rebaptize. Why does only pugnacity prevail in you? Let truth sometimes be attended to, sometimes be heard. Why are the most empty clouds of a granted delay thrown in? It was not granted to those of whom it was said: know that they are condemned, of whom it was also foretold what they were like, what they did, why it was necessary to condemn them without delay, namely that they, being present, ordained Maximianus with the laying on of hands; for this is what they signified by saying that with a deadly work of perdition they glued together a filthy vessel with collected dregs. But a delay was granted to those who did not participate in the ordination of Maximianus, although they were established in his association and schism.
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tantum quia manus ei, quod absentes fuerant, non inposuerunt. sic enim a damnatis ordinatoribus eius eadem concilii sententia distinguntur. nam cum dixissent illos) — quorum et nomina conscripserunt — 'damnatos esse cognoscite', eos autem, inquiunt, quossacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, hoc est qui a Maximiani capite proprias manus uerecundo fidei pudore retraxerunt, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus. quid planius, quid distinctius, quid apertius? illos dicunt famosi criminis reos, qui funesto opere perditionis uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinarunt, damnatos esse cognoscite, hos autem dicunt, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, hoc est qui a Maximiani capite proprias manus uerecundo fidei pudore retraxerunt, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus. et quia ex illis damnatis duo postea saluo honore suscepti sunt, non inuenitur hoc quemadmodum defendatur, nisi ut omnibus dicatur dilatio fuisse concessa.
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only because they had not laid hands on him, since they were absent. For by the same council’s sentence, they are distinguished from his condemned ordainers. For after they had said that those—whose names they also recorded—‘are to be known as condemned,’ they say: ‘But those whom the sacrilegious shoot did not pollute the plantings—that is, those who, with a shamefaced modesty of faith, withdrew their own hands from the head of Maximianus—we have permitted to return to mother church.’ What could be plainer, more distinct, more open? They say that those who, by the deadly work of perdition, glued the foul vessel with collected dregs, are to be known as condemned; but they say that those whom the sacrilegious shoot did not pollute the plantings—that is, those who, with a shamefaced modesty of faith, withdrew their own hands from the head of Maximianus—we have permitted to return to mother church. And because two of those condemned were later received with their honor preserved, this cannot be defended except by saying that a delay was granted to all.
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Sed concessa sit omnibus. nempe quotquot ad uos ab illo schismate redierunt, antequam redirent, illic fuerunt, illic baptizauerunt, inde ad uos sine destructione sui honoris et baptismi redeuntes, si frons adsit, ora uestra clauserunt. cum enim quaerimus. antequam se, sicut ipse dixisti. ecclesiae reddidissent et ante diem praestitutum restituti fuissent, ubi erant, quid aliud uos res ipsa respondere conpellit nisi (in schismate Maximiani\\ propter quod in omnes illa est prolata sententia? ibi ergo baptizarunt eos, in quibus ad uos simul inde uenientibus baptismum Christi non ausi estis rescindere, quia coacti estis agnoscere. unde ipso facto uestro, opere uestro, iudicio uestro aduersus uos merito recteque concluditur agnoscendum esse baptismum Christi, etiamsi extra ecclesiam datus fuerit, et ideo nos hoc pie cognoscere in uestris, uos impie rescindere in nostris.
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But let it be granted to all. Surely as many as returned to you from that schism, before they returned, they were there, they baptized there, and coming back to you from there without destruction of their own honor and baptism—if they had any face, they shut your mouths. For when we ask, before they had given themselves back to the Church, as you yourself said, and before they were restored on the appointed day, where were they? What else does the matter itself compel you to answer but: in the schism of Maximianus, on account of which that sentence was pronounced against all? Therefore they baptized there those in whom, as they came to you together from there, you did not dare to rescind the baptism of Christ, because you were compelled to recognize it. Hence by your own fact, your own work, your own judgment, it is rightly and properly concluded against you that the baptism of Christ must be recognized even if it was given outside the Church, and therefore we piously recognize it in your people, while you impiously rescind it in ours.
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Sed forte paenitet talia te uerba posuisse, quae hanc ueritatem nimis urgerent, quoniam dixisti: factum est ut se ecclesiae reddidissent et ante diem praestitutum restituti peremptoria sententia non tenerentur, ut responderetur tibi: *quomodo se ecclesiae reddiderunt, quomodo eidem restituti sunt, si ab ea non erant separati? aut si separati erant, quomodo baptizabant?' sed quid aliud diceres, nisi quod ab eis audieras quos consuluisti, cum ex hac causa litteris meis ualde permouereris? et tamen fortassis te arguant reprehendant, quod talia uerba incaute posueris. est quod te aduersus eos maxime muniat ac tuam tristitiam consoletur. nam et ipsi in eiusdem concilii decreto talia posuerunt; unde si nobis lecto isto opusculo nostro ita respondere uoluerint, quod eis non praeiudicent uerba laici sui, uerba ipsorum continuo recitabimus: eos autem, inquiunt, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, hoc est qui a Maximiani capite proprias manus uerecundo fidei pudore retraxerunt, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus. cum enim eis dicitur: 'isti, quos ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisistis, antequam redirent, ubi erant?', similiter urgentur ac tu paulo ante uerbis a te positis urgebaris. ubi enim eos fuisse respondebunt nisi in schismate Maximiani? sed ubi uolunt eos fuisse contendant: certe qui ad ecclesiam redire permissi sunt in ecclesia non fuerunt.
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But perhaps you regret having set down such words, which press this truth too hard, since you said: "It happened that they had returned themselves to the churches and, restored before the appointed day, were not held by the peremptory sentence," so that one might answer you: "How did they return themselves to the churches, how were they restored to the same, if they were not separated from her? Or if they were separated, how did they baptize?" But what else would you say, except what you had heard from those whom you consulted, when you were greatly disturbed by my letters on this matter? And yet perhaps they will accuse and reproach you for having set down such words incautiously. There is something that may especially fortify you against them and console your sadness. For they themselves set down such things in the decree of the same council; so that if they wish to respond to us in this little work of ours, claiming that the words of their layman do not prejudice them, we shall immediately recite their own words: "But those," they say, "whom the sacrilegious shoots did not pollute the plantings—that is, those who withdrew their own hands from the head of Maximianus with the chaste modesty of faith—we have permitted to return to mother church." For when it is said to them: "Those whom you permitted to return to mother church, before they returned, where were they?" they are similarly pressed as you were a little while ago by the words you set down. For where will they answer that they were, except in the schism of Maximianus? But wherever they wish to contend they were: certainly those who were permitted to return to the church were not in the church.
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ergo extra ecclesiam baptizauerunt et simul baptizatores et baptizati ad ecclesiam redeuntes nec illi honores quos extra gesserant nec illi baptisma quod extra acceperant amiserunt. Et tu quidem, quantum potuisti in causa mala, caute locutus es, ut diceres: placuit tamen decreto concilii dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur. illi autem nec corrigendos eos fuisse dixerunt quibus data est illa dilatio, sed tamquam omnino inpolluti atque innocentes in Maximiani societate fuerint, sic de illis loquuntur, cum ipsam prorogant dilationem. quid est enim aliud quod dicunt: eos autem, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus, nisi: 'quos non polluit consortium Maximiani, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus'? ac ne parum sit, uide quid adiungant: quanto enim de reorum, inquiunt. morte purgamur, tanto de innocentium reditu gratulamur. cur itaque tu dicis placuisse dilationem temporis dari. intra quod si qui corrigi uellet innocens haberetur, cum eam uideas inpollutis atque innocentibus datam? sed uidelicet tu timuisti, ne tibi diceretur: 'quare dabatur dilatio eis, quos non polluerat Maximianus?' ideo dilatione illa corrigendos esse censuisti. illi timuerunt, ne sibi diceretur: 'quare in suis honoribus pollutos suscipere uoluistis?' ideo se inpollutis dilationem dedisse dixerunt.
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Therefore they baptized outside the Church, and when both the baptizers and the baptized returned to the Church, they lost neither the offices they had performed outside nor the baptism they had received outside. And you indeed, as far as you could in a bad cause, have spoken cautiously, saying: "Nevertheless, it pleased the council's decree that a period of delay be given, within which if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be considered innocent." But they said that those to whom that delay was given did not need to be corrected, but they speak of them as if they were completely unpolluted and innocent in the fellowship of Maximianus, even as they grant that very delay. For what else is it that they say: "But those whom the sacrilegious shoots did not pollute the plantings, we have permitted to return to mother Church," except: "Those whom the fellowship of Maximianus did not pollute, we have permitted to return to mother Church"? And lest this be insufficient, see what they add: "For as much as we are purified by the death of the guilty," they say, "so much do we rejoice in the return of the innocent." Why then do you say that it pleased that a period of delay be given, within which if anyone wished to be corrected he would be considered innocent, when you see that it was given to the unpolluted and innocent? But clearly you feared that it might be said to you: "Why was a delay given to those whom Maximianus had not polluted?" Therefore you judged that those to be corrected by that delay. They feared that it might be said to them: "Why did you wish to receive the polluted in their offices?" Therefore they said that they gave the delay to the unpolluted.
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Proinde singula timuistis, sed alterutrum oppugnatur ex altero. nam tibi dicitur: 'quomodo existimas corrigendos quos tui praedicant impollutos?' illis autem dicitur: 'quomodo asseritis impollutos etsi non manum inponendo capiti Maximiani, tamen schismatis eius communione maculatos?' cuius autem animus, cuius uires, cuius lingua sufficiat proloqui tam intolerandum dolorem? ut pars Donati discissa resarciatur, nec socios Afros in Africa polluit Maximianus: ne ad ipsam radicem unitatis rami fracti regredi permittantur, tot remotissimas gentes polluit ex Africa Caecilianus.. Ex die concilii Bagaiensis, hoc est octauum Kalendas Maias. usque ad diem datae illius dilationis, hoc est VIII Et Ian, VIII menses numerantur. in hoc tam longo temporis interuallo illi. quibus dilatio data est, maculabantur societate damnati Maximiani an non maculabantur? si maculabantur, quomododicitur:eos autem, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus? si non maculabantur, quomodo nos atque omnes quae ubique sunt Christianas gentes potuit ignotorum, non dicam falsorum, maculare alienorum contagio peccatorum? sed -ideo, inquis, dilatio data est, quae si transisset illis non redeuntibus, tunc macularentur et in poenam damnationis incurrerent. non ergo eos peccatum illius societatis, sed diei constitutio maculabat.
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Therefore you feared each point individually, but one is refuted by the other. For it is said to you: 'How do you judge that those whom your people proclaim as unpolluted are to be corrected?' But to them it is said: 'How do you assert that they are unpolluted, even if they did not lay a hand on Maximianus's head, yet were stained by communion with his schism?' But whose mind, whose strength, whose tongue is sufficient to express such an intolerable grief? That the Donatist party, once torn apart, might be patched up, Maximianus did not pollute his African associates in Africa: but to allow broken branches to return to the very root of unity, Caecilianus polluted so many most distant peoples from Africa. From the day of the Council of Bagai, that is the eighth day before the Kalends of May, to the day of that granted postponement, that is the eighth day before the Ides of January, eight months are counted. In this such a long interval of time, were those to whom the postponement was granted being stained by the association of the condemned Maximianus, or were they not being stained? If they were being stained, how is it said: 'But those whom the plantings of the sacrilegious shoot did not pollute, we have allowed to return to the mother Church'? If they were not being stained, how could the contagion of unknown, not to say false, sins of others stain us and all Christian peoples everywhere? But—you say—the postponement was granted for this reason, that if it passed without their returning, then they would be stained and incur the penalty of condemnation. Therefore it was not the sin of that association that stained them, but the appointed day.
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si ergo nullus dies constitueretur, inmaculati utique permanerent. quid de uobis male meruit orbis terrarum? cur eum maculatum perhibetis peccatis alienis, cui nullum diem dilationis constituistis. cum tanta sit uestra potentia, ut homines quando uolunt peccatoribus socientur et quando uolueritis inquinentur? innocentes et impolluti erant, quibus in parte Maximiani dabatur dilatio, intra cuius diem si remearent ad uos, haberent integri honoris ac fidei fundamenta; si autem ille dies eis non redeuntibus praeteriret, tunc polluti, tunc scelerati, tunc perditi supplicium damnationis incurrerent, tunc humiliarentur per paenitentiam degradati. o (ratio) mira praedicentium hominum non iam, ut uetus prouerbium fertur, quod uolumus sanctum est, sed etiam 'quando uolumus et quamdiu uolumus'! contingat alicui uestrum in naue orare nobiscum. iam pollutus, iam traditor appellatur: communicant altaria damnatores Primiani cum Maximiano ueritatis adultero, ecclesiae matris inimico, Dathae, Corae et Abiron ministro et per VIII menses innocentes inpollutique persistunt. proinde si qui ex his nonum Kl Ian se uestrae communioni reddiderunt, de innocentium estis reditu gratulati. eorum scilicet quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria.
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If, therefore, no day were fixed, they would certainly remain undefiled. What has the world done to deserve such ill from you? Why do you declare it stained by the sins of others, when you have appointed no day of delay for it? So great is your power that men become associated with sinners whenever they wish, and are polluted whenever you wish? They were innocent and unpolluted to whom a delay was granted in the party of Maximianus, within whose day, if they returned to you, they would have the foundations of their honor and faith intact; but if that day passed without their returning, then they would be polluted, then criminal, then lost, incurring the penalty of condemnation, then humbled through penance, degraded. O the marvelous reasoning of these preachers—no longer, as the old proverb goes, 'what we wish is holy,' but also 'when we wish and for as long as we wish'! Let one of you happen to pray with us on a ship. He is at once called polluted, a traditor: those who condemn Primianus share altars with Maximianus, the adulterer of truth, the enemy of the mother Church, the minister of Dathan, Korah, and Abiram, and for eight months they remain innocent and unpolluted. Therefore, if any of them returned to your communion on the ninth day before the Kalends of January, you rejoiced in the return of the innocent—those, namely, whom the shoots of a sacrilegious cutting did not pollute.
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quid uos promeruerunt tot dies VIII mensum a die VIII Kl Maiarum usque ad diem VIII Kl Ian, quos ita sanctificastis, ut per eos quicumque communioni sacrilegi atque damnati Maximiani cohaererent, non polluerentur nec efficerentur nocentes: et quid uos offendit tam sanctus dies natalis ipsius domini nostri, ut solus aduentu et transitu suo pollueret innocentes, atque in eis qui in illo schismate baptizarunt per illos omnes dies sanctus maneret baptismus Christi et inmundus fieret per natalem Christi? Quid non audeat humana temeritas, cum in sententiam nefandi praecipitatur erroris, quam relinquere propter uanitatem pudet et defendere contra ueritatem non pudet? sed quid hinc plura, ubi quilibet obstinatissimus, qui contra omnes uoces rationis obduruit, necesse est fateatur de quibus dicitur: se ecclesiae reddidissent et ante diem praestitutum restituti essent — quae uerba ipse posuisti —, eos denique de quibus dicitur: (ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus': 'de innocentium reditu gratulamur': (ac ne angustum redeuntibus tempus spem salutis artatae diei pressura subducat, usque in ilium diem agnitionispandimus ianuam, utintegri honoris ac fidei regressi habeant fundamenta.
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What have you gained from the eight months from the eighth day before the Kalends of May to the eighth day before the Kalends of January, which you have so sanctified that through them anyone who adhered to the communion of the sacrilegious and condemned Maximianists would neither be polluted nor become guilty? And what offense have you taken from so holy a day as the birthday of our Lord himself, that it alone, by its coming and passing, would pollute the innocent, and that among those who baptized in that schism, through all those days the baptism of Christ would remain holy, but would become unclean through the birthday of Christ? What would human temerity not dare, when it is precipitated into the sentence of nefarious error, which it is ashamed to abandon on account of vanity and not ashamed to defend against truth? But why say more about this, when any most obstinate person, who has grown hard against all voices of reason, must necessarily admit concerning those of whom it is said: they had returned to the Church and were restored before the appointed day—which words you yourself placed—and finally concerning those of whom it is said: 'we have permitted them to return to mother Church'; 'we rejoice at the return of the innocent'; 'and lest the narrowness of time for those returning should deprive them of the hope of salvation by the pressure of the restricted day, we extend the door of recognition until that day, so that those who have returned may have the foundations of complete honor and faith.
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quam quisquam si ingredi nequiuerit pigra segnitia, sciat sibi ad omnes ueniales aditus uiam esse subductam': (et post praestitutum diem redeuntibus fixa paenitentia' — quae uerba trecenti et decem in sententia sua totiens inculcarunt —, necesse est, inquam, quilibet aduersarius fateatur eos, de quibus ista dicuntur, antequam se uobis redderent, antequam uobis restituerentur, antequam ad uos redirent, antequam regressi ianuam dilationis ingrederentur, non fuisse uobiscum, extra uestram communionem in eo schismate, quo se a uobis separauerant, baptizasse? inde uobis redditi ac restituti ubi a uobis alienati erant, inde ad uos redeuntes et regredientes quo a uobis foris erant, et tenuerunt non deminutos honores suos et secum introduxerunt non rebaptizandos baptizatos suos. Quid adhuc pessimae causae patrocinium pertinacissimum praebes? adquiesce tandem non mihi, sed ipsi qua conuincimini ueritati. uide quam uerum dixerim, quod frustra labefactare conatus es, (quanta sint pro pace toleranda', atque — ut eisdem identidem uerbis utar, quibus in illis litteris usus sum — 'pro pace Christi redite ad ecclesiam quae non damnauit incognita, si pro pace Donati placuit reuocare damnata'. si enim ex his duodecim, quos cum Maximiano sine dilatione damnauerant, Felicianum et Praetextatum postea receperunt, quomodo falsum est eos reuocasse damnata?
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than anyone who, if unable to enter through sluggish laziness, should know that the way to all venial entrances has been removed for him' (and after the appointed day, a fixed penance for those returning—which words the three hundred and ten so often hammered into their sentence), it is necessary, I say, that any adversary admit that those of whom these things are said, before they gave themselves back to you, before they were restored to you, before they returned to you, before they entered the door of the delay, were not with you, were outside your communion in that schism by which they had separated from you, and baptized? Then, given back and restored to you from where they had been alienated from you, returning and coming back to you from where they were outside you, they both retained their honors undiminished and brought in with them their baptized ones not to be rebaptized. Why do you still offer the most stubborn patronage to a very bad cause? Yield at last, not to me, but to the truth by which you are convicted. See how true what I said is, which you tried in vain to shake, 'how much is to be endured for peace,' and—to use the same words I used in that letter—'for the sake of Christ's peace, return to the Church which did not condemn the unknown, if for the sake of Donatus' peace it pleased you to recall the condemned.' For if out of these twelve, whom they had condemned without delay along with Maximianus, they later received Felicianus and Praetextatus, how is it false that they recalled the condemned?
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si autem et ipsis dilatio data est, quos dixerunt damnatos esse cognoscite, etiamsi nullus eorum postea remearet, placuit tamen reuocare damnata, quando post sententiam. qua dictum est: damnatos esse cognoscite, data est dilatio, qua eis liceret euacuata damnatione remeare. haec dicta sufficerent, etiamsi uerum esset quod te dicis, cum hac causa Maximianensium ualde permotus esses, a tuis episcopis cognouisse; quid autem agis, quia et falsum est? quaere aut, si habes, inspice diem gestorum proconsularium, quo postulatio dicta est a Titiano aduersus Felicianum et Praetextatum, ut pellerentur locis, et uide, quanto post diem illius dilationis hoc factum est. nam dies est concilii Bagaiensis consulatu Augustorum Arcadii ter et Honorii iterum VIII K2 Mai, dies antem dilationis hinc usque ad VIII II Ian, postulatio nero ista Titiani dicta est post istum consulatum die VI Non Mar.
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If, however, a delay was also granted to them, recognize that those whom they said were condemned, even if none of them later returned, it was nevertheless decided to revoke the condemnation when, after the sentence by which it was said "recognize that they are condemned," a delay was given, by which it was permitted for them to return with the condemnation annulled. These words would suffice, even if it were true that you, as you claim, having been greatly moved by this case of the Maximianists, learned from your bishops; but what are you doing, since it is also false? Look up, if you have it, or inspect the day of the proconsular records on which the petition was presented by Titianus against Felicianus and Praetextatus, that they be expelled from their places, and see how much after the day of that delay this was done. For the day of the Council of Bagai is the consulship of the Augusti Arcadius for the third time and Honorius for the second time, the 8th day before the Kalends of May; the day of the delay, however, is from this up to the 8th day before the Ides of January; this petition of Titianus, however, was presented after that consulship on the 6th day before the Nones of March.
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Proinde apparet tertium ferme agi mensem, cum a proconsule petitur, ut Felicianus et Praetextatus sedibus propulsentur tamquam collegae Maximiani, quos sibi consociauerat ad furorem. nam cum memoratus aduocatus de Maximiano quod sufficere uidebatur in eadem postulatione dixisset: eos quoque, inquit, quos alienae praesumptionis error adtraxerat, portu primo proposito paenitendi, si reuerti cuperent intra tempus ad religionis tramitem destitutum, pari uigoris ammonitione conpescuit. sed suis institutis iniquitas delectatur et semet ipsam non deserit, cum semel praecipitata corruerit. idem namque Maximianus coeptam nutrit audaciam et alios sibimet consociat ad furorem. inter quos etiam Felicianus quidam, qui primo recta sectatus deprauationis huius attaminatione fuscatur, in Mustitana positus ciuitate deo omnipotenti parietes consecratos, ecclesiam uenerandam quasi quadam obsessione credidit retinendam. hunc etiam Praetextatus in Adsuritanis partibus imitatur. audisne aduocati uerba praeclarissima et manifestissima, quibus dicit istos, de quibus agimus, quia portum propositum paenitendi.
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Therefore, it is evident that nearly the third month is passing since the proconsul was petitioned that Felicianus and Praetextatus be driven from their sees as colleagues of Maximianus, whom he had associated with himself in his madness. For when the aforementioned advocate had said in that same petition what seemed sufficient concerning Maximianus: "Those also," he says, "whom the error of another's presumption had drawn away, he restrained with an equal warning of severity, having first set before them a harbor of repentance, if they wished to return within the appointed time to the path of religion. But iniquity delights in its own institutions and does not abandon itself, once it has fallen headlong. For the same Maximianus nourishes the audacity he has begun and associates others with himself in his madness. Among these is a certain Felicianus, who, though at first he followed the right path, is now stained by the contamination of this depravity, and in the city of Musti, he believed that walls consecrated to almighty God, a venerable church, should be retained as if by some siege. This man is also imitated by Praetextatus in the region of Adsuritum. Do you hear the most clear and manifest words of the advocate, by which he says that these men, concerning whom we are dealing, because the harbor of repentance was set before them.
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dum suis institutis iniquitas delectatur, cum semel praecipitata corruerit, contempserunt, locis ecclesiasticis expellendos P ubi si dies posset latere gestorum, cuiuis obtunsissimo satis eluceret, quod contra eos non ita proconsularis potestas adiretur, nisi aut illo concilio fuissent, sicut illi magis apparet, sine ulla impertita dilatione damnati aut intra diem dilationis, si omnibus data est, uobis restitui noluissent. cam uero etiam dies gestorum cuiuslibet obstinati oculos auresque sic feriat, usque adeo illos etiam post transactum dilationis diem in uestra communione non fuisse et Maximiano cohaesisse, ut ob hoc aduersus eos tam terribilis iudiciariae iussionis impetraretur auctoritas. quid ad haec dicitur? quid adhuc contra tam perspicuam ueritatem mira inpudentiae caecitate contenditur? quid adhuc ab eis, qui pro unitate partis Donati etiam concordiam sacrilegorum damnatorum tenere noluerunt, contra unitatem Christi tanta insania rebellatur? quid adhuc baptismus Christi, etiam in sacrilego schismate ueneratione debita cognitus, in tot catholicis gentibus impia praesumptione respuitur, sacrilega repetitione uiolatur?
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while injustice delights in its own decrees, once it has plunged headlong and collapsed, they despised them, and they were to be expelled from ecclesiastical places. But if the day of the proceedings could be hidden, it would be clear enough to even the dullest person that proconsular power was not approached against them unless either they had been condemned at that council, as appears more clearly, without any granted delay, or, if a day of delay was given to all, they had refused to be restored to you within that day. But indeed, the day of the proceedings strikes the eyes and ears of even the most obstinate person so forcefully that even after the day of delay had passed, they were not in your communion and adhered to Maximianus, to the extent that the authority of such a terrible judicial order was obtained against them. What is said to this? Why is it still contended with such amazing blindness of impudence against such clear truth? Why do those who refused to hold even the concord of condemned heretics for the unity of the Donatist party still rebel with such madness against the unity of Christ? Why is the baptism of Christ, even recognized with due veneration in heretical schism, still rejected with impious presumption in so many Catholic nations, and violated with heretical repetition?
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Nolo quaerere, quanto post huius postulationis diem, qua Felicianus et Praetextatus Titiani aduocati uerbis tam grauiter accusantur, in uestram communionem recepti sunt. sufficit, quod eadem postulatio tanto post finem praestitutae illius dilationis eos a uestra communione separatos in Maximiani schismate fuisse conuincit, quos postea recepistis, quorum honores nulla ex parte minuistis, a quibus datum quamuis in sacrilego schismate baptismum, sicut re uera timendum fuit, rescindere timuistis. numquidnam in hac causa se contra nos lingua cuiuslibet pertinacissimi commoueret, si se moueri in hominis ore et sub hominis fronte sentiret? erraui plane, fateor, in eo quod in illis litteris posui de illa Bagaiensis concilii sententia, quoniam dixi: cum apud eos decernenda recitata est, ore latissimo adclamauerunt, nunc autem, cum a nobis recitata fuerit, ommutescunt. uerum est quod tu dixisti: ecce non ommutescunt; uerecundia quippe in rebus tam manifestis uel etiam ipsa inpudentia ommutescere potest, insania non potest.
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I do not wish to inquire how long after the day of that petition, in which Felicianus and Praetextatus are so gravely accused by the words of Titianus' advocates, they were received into your communion. It is enough that the same petition, so long after the end of that prescribed delay, proves that they were separated from your communion in the schism of Maximianus, whom you later received, whose honors you diminished in no part, and whose baptism, given even in a sacrilegious schism, you feared to rescind—as indeed was truly to be feared. Would any tongue, however obstinate, stir itself against us in this cause, if it felt itself stirred in a man's mouth and beneath a man's brow? I have plainly erred, I confess, in what I set down in those letters concerning the sentence of the Council of Bagai, because I said: "When it was recited among them for decision, they shouted with the widest mouth; but now, when it has been recited by us, they fall silent." It is true what you said: "Behold, they do not fall silent." For shame, indeed, in such manifest matters, or even impudence itself, can fall silent; madness cannot.
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neque hoc dictum de te accipias, qui tuis episcopis mentientibus credidisti, nec de illis omnibus — neque enim omnes de hac re permotus consulere potuisti —, sed de his, qui cum scirent quanta et quando contra Praetextatum et Felicianum apud iudices gesta sunt, hoc quod tuis inseruisti litteris tibi ausi sunt dicere, quod ante diem praestitutae dilationis Felicianus et Praetextatus uestrae communioni restituti peremptoria sententia non tenerentur obstricti. aut si et ipsi forte ista nescierunt, nunc saltem, cum haec legitis, taceat uerecundia, taceat et ipsa qualiscumque hominis est inpudentia; sola certe quae contra tam euidentem ueritatem clamet relinquatur insania. et illa erit fortasse sanabilis, si conpescatur a sanis. Nunc uide, quemadmodum de me dixeris: testis mendax non erit inpunitus, cum putares me in hac Maximianensium causa fuisse mentitum. ego tibi hoc non repono; forte quippe locutus es quod incauta amicitia credidisti, non quod fallaci corde finxisti. homines sumus; qua tandem. uigilantia efficere possumus, ut uel putando uel loquendo in aliquo non labamur? sed contra medicinam correctionis obsurdescere non debemus.
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Nor should you take this as said about you, who believed your bishops when they lied, nor about all of them—for you could not, in your agitation, have consulted everyone about this matter—but about those who, knowing how much and when was done against Praetextatus and Felicianus before the judges, dared to tell you what you inserted into your letter: that Felicianus and Praetextatus, restored to your communion before the day of the appointed delay, were not bound by the peremptory sentence. Or if perhaps they themselves were ignorant of these things, now at least, as you read this, let modesty fall silent, let even whatever shamelessness a man may possess fall silent; let only madness, which cries out against such evident truth, remain. And that madness will perhaps be curable, if it is restrained by the sane. Now see how you spoke of me: "A false witness will not go unpunished," when you thought I had lied in this matter of the Maximianists. I do not return this charge against you; for perhaps you spoke what incautious friendship made you believe, not what you fabricated with a deceitful heart. We are human; with what vigilance, after all, can we manage not to stumble in some respect, either in thinking or in speaking? But we ought not to grow deaf to the medicine of correction.
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Nunc adtende, quantam mihi etiam in ceteris partibus epistulae tuae causa ista Maximianensium praebeat respondendi facilitatem. quidquid de traditoribus uelut nostris dicendum putasti, quamquam uestri potius hoc fecisse doceantur, quod et in illo trium uoluminum opere satis superque monstraui. uide tamen et responde, si potes. utrum hoc crimen, quorumlibet fuerit, polluere potuerit in unitate tot gentium christianos uel longe remotissimos uel longe posteros, si crimen sacrilegi surculi Maximiani maculare non potuit uel socios Afros, quibus dantes dilationem trecenti et decem episcopi uestri dixerunt: quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, uel uos ipsos, qui non solum istos quos innocentes dixistis, uerum etiam in illo sacrilegio iam damnatos tanta concordia suscepistis. Dicis orientalibus nota fuisse crimina traditorum, quando tibi Afro Maximianei\\sium schisma in Africae capite commissum, antequam meas litteras legens ualde permotus consuleres episcopos uestros, incognitum fuit et. cum consuluisses, uerum ab eis audire minime potuisti.
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Now attend to how much ease in responding this cause of the Maximianists provides me even in the other parts of your letter. Whatever you thought should be said about the traditors as if they were ours—although it is rather shown that yours did this, which I have demonstrated sufficiently and more than enough in that work of three volumes—nevertheless, see and answer, if you can: whether this crime, whoever committed it, could have polluted Christians in the unity of so many nations, either very remote or far later, if the crime of the sacrilegious shoot of Maximianus could not stain either the African associates, to whom, granting a delay, your three hundred and ten bishops said: “Whom the sacrilegious shoot does not pollute the plantings,” or you yourselves, who not only received those whom you called innocent, but also those already condemned in that sacrilege, with such great concord. You say that the crimes of the traditors were known to the Easterners, when to you, an African, the schism of the Maximianists, committed in the capital of Africa, was unknown before, reading my letter, you were greatly disturbed and consulted your bishops, and when you had consulted, you were least able to hear the truth from them.
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quos certe si defendis, ne dicas mentitos, concedis ignaros, et tamen nec nos nec orientis et occidentis tot tantosque populos saltem nescire permittis causam Caeciliani, cum isti nesciant Praetextati et Feliciani, quos trecenti et decem, hoc est aut omnes aut prope omnes episcopi partis Donati, Afri Afros in Africa damnauerunt, Afri Afros in Africa susceperunt.. Inseris prinoipium Serdicensis concilii, unde probare conaris, quod orientales episcopi cognito crimine traditorum parti Donati communicauerint, hoc uno magno scilicet documento, quod inter episcopos quibus scribunt Donati nomen inuentum est. nec tamen ibi aliquid legitur eos de Afris traditoribus cognouisse. quod quidem concilium, ne te lateat, Arrianorum est, quos iam tu inter alios haereticos nominasti, nec additis ciuitatum nominibus legi solet, quia nec ipse mos est ecclesiasticus, quando episcopi episcopis epistulam scribunt. unde nescio quis iste Donatus miror si non in uestris litteris Carthaginiensis factus est, quamquam potuerint illi tam longinquis terris ab Africa separati eo ipso tempore quo scribere uolebant requirere, quisnam episcopus esset Carthaginis, (et inuenire) esse Donatum. omitto enim dicere, quod fortasse orientales haeretici (Afris) haereticis aliquo modo se sociare temptauerant.
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whom, if you defend, certainly, lest you say they lied, you concede they were ignorant, and yet you do not allow either us or so many and such great peoples of the East and West at least to be ignorant of the cause of Caecilianus, when these men are ignorant of Praetextatus and Felicianus, whom three hundred and ten, that is, either all or nearly all the bishops of the Donatist party, Africans condemning Africans in Africa, Africans receiving Africans in Africa. You insert the beginning of the Council of Serdica, from which you try to prove that the Eastern bishops, having learned of the crime of the traditors, communicated with the Donatist party, by this one great proof, namely, that among the bishops to whom they write, the name Donatus is found. And yet nothing is read there that they had learned about the African traditors. This council, lest it escape you, is that of the Arians, whom you have already named among other heretics, and it is not usually read with the names of the cities added, because it is not even the ecclesiastical custom when bishops write a letter to bishops. Hence, I wonder if this certain Donatus was not made a Carthaginian in your letters, although they could, in those far-off lands separated from Africa, at that very time when they wished to write, have inquired who was the bishop of Carthage, and have found that it was Donatus. For I omit to say that perhaps the Eastern heretics had somehow attempted to ally themselves with the African heretics.
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sed tu, homo prudens, cum uelles soluere quaestionem, cum tibi dici posset: (si haec ita sunt, ut orientales scriberent ad Donatum uestrum, quemadmodum a communione uestrorum orientales postea digregati sunt?', respondisti et dixisti: quia in recipiendis iterum uestris damnatae causae non potuerunt seruare constantiam. et scriptum est: qui iungitur fornicaria? unum c.orpus est. ubi uestros nunc atrociter acousasti, si in hae causa Maximianensium potuerunt seruare constantiam execrabiliter damnando sacrilegos, honorabiliter suscipiendo damnatos. illud enim de oriestalibus omnino non probas, hoc de uestris audis et legis et cernis et iudicas. Iubes me relinquere ecclesiam traditorum, quos nec uos apud nos nec maiores uestri apud maiores nostros conuincere ac demonstrare potuerunt; quos nunc si demonstrasses, eorum facinus crimenque damnarem, non propter eos tot gentium quibus ignoti sunt catholicam societatem desererem. sed uide, qua consideratione nolis in communione nostra eorum mortuorum memoriam fieri, quorum facta non nouimus, quorum etiam bonam inter suos famam posteritatis successione didicimus, cum in uestra communione sine ulla degradatione uiuant quorum mala sensistis, quorum sacrilegia condemnastis.
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But you, a prudent man, when you wished to solve the question, when it could be said to you: 'If these things are so, as the Easterners wrote to your Donatus, how were the Easterners later separated from the communion of your people?', you answered and said: because in receiving your people back again they could not preserve constancy regarding a condemned cause. And it is written: he who joins a fornicator is one body. Where you have now harshly accused your own people, if in this cause of the Maximianists they could preserve constancy by execrably condemning the sacrilegious, honorably receiving the condemned. For you do not prove that at all concerning the Easterners; this concerning your own people you hear and read and see and judge. You bid me leave the church of the traditors, whom neither you among us nor your predecessors among our predecessors could convict and demonstrate; whom if you had now demonstrated, I would condemn their crime and offense, but I would not on their account abandon the catholic fellowship of so many nations to whom they are unknown. But see by what consideration you are unwilling for the memory of those dead to be made in our communion, whose deeds we do not know, whose good reputation among their own we have learned through the succession of posterity, when in your communion those live without any degradation whose evils you have perceived, whose sacrileges you have condemned.
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Audes mihi dicere, homo prudens: ille qui tradidit te crea?it, sic nesciens illum esse creatorem nostrum in eo, quod christiani sumus, qui est creator noster in eo, quod homines sumus, quamuis nec illum, quem putas creatorem meum, de traditione conuiceris. ego autem non tibi rependo hanc iniuriam; nec tuum nec filiorum uel nepotum aut pronepotum tuorum. si in parte Donati fuerint, Felicianum dico creatorem. tantum, quia permittis, admoneo, ne creator tuus post nomen hominis impia uanitate currentem te inueniat desertorem. deinde plausibiliter tibi uideris adiungere: a fonte deducitur riuus et caput membra sequuntur. sano capite omne sanum est corpus, et si quid in hoc morbi uel uitii est, omnia membra debilitat. originem suam respicit quidquid in stirpe procrescit. noti potest innocens esse qui sectam non sequitur innocentis, cum praesertim scriptum sit: in legalibus patrum uestrorum ne ambulaueritis. in his omnibus uerbis tuis omitto, quia non est simile quod de humano corpore conparasti; fieri enim potest, ut et pes doleat capite sano et pede sano caput omitto etiam, quod tibi exciderit quid paulo ante dixeris; hoc et nos uolumus hoc suademus, ut Christus christiani sit caput, qui nunc nescio quem traditorem caput uis esse ignotarum gentium.
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Do you dare to say to me, a prudent man: 'He who handed over the scriptures created you,' thus not knowing that He is our creator in that we are Christians, who is our creator in that we are human beings, although you have not even convicted that man, whom you think to be my creator, of the charge of handing over the scriptures. But I do not repay you this injury; neither yours, nor that of your sons or grandsons or great-grandsons, if they are in the Donatist party, do I call Felicianus a creator. Only, since you permit, I warn you, lest your creator, after the name of man, find you a deserter, running with impious vanity. Then you seem to add plausibly: 'A stream is led from the source, and the head follows the members. With a healthy head, the whole body is healthy, and if there is any disease or defect in it, it weakens all the members. Whatever grows in a shoot looks back to its origin. No one can be innocent who does not follow the sect of an innocent, especially since it is written: "Do not walk in the legal traditions of your fathers."' In all these words of yours, I pass over the fact that the comparison you made with the human body is not similar; for it can happen that the foot hurts while the head is healthy, and while the foot is healthy, the head [hurts]. I also pass over the fact that you have forgotten what you said a little earlier; this we also wish, this we urge, that Christ be the head of the Christian, not that you now wish some unknown traitor to be the head of unknown peoples.
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tium christianarum, ubi datum et acceptum Christi baptismum non uultis agnoscere, tamquam baptizati non nisi ab illo traditore creati sint. omitto et illud, quantum me adiuuet quod de scriptura testimonium ipse posuisti, dictum esse Iudaeis: in legalibus patrum uestrorum ne ambulaueritis, cum hoc utique praeceptum quicumque tunc obseruare uoluerunt, sicut prophetae sancti et septem milia uirorum, qui non curuauerunt genua ante Bahal, a populo tamen suo et a communibus sacramentis non se diuiserunt. hoc dico, hoc uelis nolis repetendo, quamlibet tibi uidear molestus, inculco: noli Caecilianum totiens absolutum caput facere posteris nobis, cum ego et Primianum a Feliciano et Felicianum a Primiano damnatum non tamen faciam caput posteris uestris. Iam uero de persecutionis inuidia, quam a terrenis potestatibus uos pro parte Donati perpeti gloriamini. quamuis in illo trium librorum opere satis tibi abundeque responderim, neque nunc tibi tacebo, quod ex hac causa Maximianensium breuiter responderi potest, neque si propterea uos imperitis atque inprudentibus populis commendatis. sic enim se Maximianus ipse, sic eius socii, qui nec persecutionibus uestrorum, 'ut ad eorum communionem redirent, cedere potuerunt, uanis imperitisque commendant.
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... of the Christian scriptures, where you refuse to recognize the baptism of Christ given and received, as if those baptized were created only by that traitor. I also pass over how much it helps me that you yourself placed a testimony from scripture, that it was said to the Jews: "Do not walk in the legal traditions of your fathers," since those who then wished to observe this precept, like the holy prophets and the seven thousand men who did not bow the knee before Baal, nevertheless did not separate themselves from their own people and from the common sacraments. This I say, this I insist upon, whether you like it or not, repeating it, however troublesome I may seem to you: do not make Caecilian, so often acquitted, the head for us who come after, when I do not make Primian, condemned by Felician, or Felician, condemned by Primian, the head for your posterity. Now, regarding the envy of persecution, which you for the Donatist party boast of suffering from earthly powers. Although in that work of three books I have answered you sufficiently and abundantly, I will not now be silent to you about what can be briefly answered from this cause of the Maximianists, even if you thereby commend yourselves to ignorant and imprudent peoples. For thus Maximian himself, and his associates, who could not yield to your persecutions to return to your communion, commend themselves to the vain and ignorant.
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sed qui sobrie cogitant eorum, qui aliquam molestiam patiuntur, non poenas considerari oportere sed causas, intellegunt eos pro crimine sacrilegi schismatis, in quo a uobis merito iusteque damnati sunt, commotiones etiam saecularium iudiciorum merito iusteque perpessos. neque enim illud commemoro quod in tua epistula posuisti, quod Maximiani non basilicam sed speluncam non Optatus sed populus euertit. quamquam etiam illic, etsi incertum est uestros fecisse, certum est tamen illum passum fuisse persecutionem nec tamen iustum esse sed impium. unde iam cogeris confiteri non debere quid quisque patiatur, sed quare patiatur adtendi. Sed mihi parum est hoc Maximiani exemplo interim demonstrare non continuo iustum esse. qui obtento atque adumbrato Christi nomine patitur persecutionem, quando et Maximianus sacrilegus passus est, nisi te cogam fateri, quod et religiosi sacrilegos et iusti impios persequuntur, non sane nocendi studio, sed necessitate potius consulendi. nec de uetere testamento profero exempla, quamuis te etiam propheticis exemplis doceri uelle dixisti. illa, inquam, nimis antiqua non profero; fuerunt enim alterius dispensationis et temporis. iam post reuelatam et oportuno tempore commendatam mansuetudinem episcopi uestri, quod quidem nos DO. dicimus iustum.
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But those who think soberly understand that in the case of those who suffer some hardship, it is not the penalties that should be considered, but the causes; and they realize that those who have been justly and rightly condemned by you for the crime of sacrilegious schism have also justly and rightly suffered the disturbances of secular judgments. For I do not even mention what you set forth in your letter, that the Maximianists' basilica—or rather cave—was overturned not by Optatus but by the people. Although even there, even if it is uncertain that your people did it, it is certain that he suffered persecution, yet he was not just but impious. Hence you are already compelled to confess that one should not consider what someone suffers, but why he suffers. But it is not enough for me to demonstrate by this example of Maximianus that one who suffers persecution under the name of Christ, even when shielded and veiled by it, is not immediately just—since even the sacrilegious Maximianus suffered it—unless I force you to admit that religious men persecute the sacrilegious, and just men the impious, not out of a desire to harm, but rather out of a necessity to care for them. Nor do I bring forward examples from the Old Testament, although you said you wished to be taught even by prophetic examples. Those, I say, I do not bring forward, for they were of a different dispensation and time. Already after the revelation and timely commendation of gentleness, your bishops—which indeed we say is just.
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sed quamdiu ibi ea et talem causam defendis tu dicere cogeris, episcopi, inquam, uestri uestros schismaticos persecuti sunt. Iam itaque non dico: 'persecutionem passus est Maximianus, fecit Optatus), quoniam hoc nos ignorare respondes et ita fecit, ut hinc nulla possim gesta recitare; quamquam in tam recenti memoria ciuitates ipsae si interrogentur. negare non possunt hoc ergo non dico, sed dico: persecutionem passus est Maximianus, fecit Primianus et recito gesta, quibus ostendam domum, quam Maximianus propriam defendebat, Primianum procuratione mandata exorcisterii ecclesiastici nomine, fauente sibi Sacerdote legato, quod ipsa gesta indicant, abstulisse. sed iustitiae, non gratiae fuerit iudex — non abnuo, non refello —: cur ergo Primianus apud acta magistratus Carthaginiensis inter alia, quae de nobis contumeliose prosequenda mandauit: illi, inquit, auferunt aliena, nos intermittimus ablata, cum ipse abstulisset aliena, si Maximiani erat domus, si autem Maximianus eam potius usurpauerat, non intermisisset ablata? sed si neque hoc ad persecutionem uis pertinere, dico episcopos uestros et clericos uestros Maximianensibus in eis sedibus manentibus, in quibus antiquitus fuerant ordinati, fecisse persecutiones, apud proconsules accusasse, impetrasse iussiones eisdemque iussionibus exsequendis officiorum instantiam et ciuitatum auxilia meruisse.
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But as long as you are forced to say that you defend that cause there and in such a manner, I say that your bishops persecuted your schismatics. Now, therefore, I do not say: "Maximianus suffered persecution, Optatus did it," because you respond that we are ignorant of this, and it was done in such a way that I cannot recite any records from it; although in such recent memory, if the cities themselves were asked, they could not deny this. So I do not say this, but I say: Maximianus suffered persecution, Primianus did it, and I recite the records by which I show that the house which Maximianus was defending as his own, Primianus, by a mandate given through the administration of the exorcist in the name of the church, with the favor of the legate Sacerdos, as the records themselves indicate, took away. But if the judge was of justice, not of favor—I do not deny it, I do not refute it—why then did Primianus, in the acts of the magistrate of Carthage, among other things which he ordered to be pursued insultingly against us, say: "They take away what belongs to others, we leave alone what has been taken away," when he himself had taken away what belonged to another, if the house was Maximianus's? Or if Maximianus had rather usurped it, would he not have left alone what had been taken away? But if this too does not seem to you to pertain to persecution, I say that your bishops and your clergy inflicted persecutions on the Maximianists who remained in those sees in which they had been ordained from ancient times, accused them before proconsuls, obtained orders, and for executing those same orders, earned the assistance of the officials and the aid of the cities.
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ut illi, qui iam fuerant Bagaiensis sententiae seueritate damnati et a uestrae communionis corpore, ne per cuncta membra pestilens uirus inreperet, conpendioso dolore praecisi, et nullum iam uobis facientes suae communionis morbida contagione periculum cum praecisis pariter plebibus suis propria conuenticula frequentabant, loca et basilicas quas non inuaserant cum populis sibi cohaerentibus perpetua possessione retinebant, terrerentur proturbarentur expellerentur, renitentes exhiberentur. Lege quae de illis uel in illos aduocatis prosequentibus dicta sunt, quae obiecta crimina sacrilegii, quo impetu accusationis concitatae sunt potestates; quaere quae facta sint Saluio Membresitano, quia non ei potuit illius persecutionis exagitationibus extorqueri, ut rediret a consortio criminis, maluitque se committere examini et persecutoribus suis in proconsulari iudicio respondere, ea credo fiducia, quod sciret aduersarios suos legibus contra haereticos promulgatis uti non posse apud iudicem, nisi etiam se ipsos eis pariter inretirent. sed fefellit eum ista cogitatio. apud Seranum enim tunc proconsulem uel gratia plus ualuit uel magis forte Bagaiense concilium, quod illic etiam contra eundem Saluium recitatum est.
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as those who had already been condemned by the severity of the sentence of Bagai and cut off from the body of your communion by a swift excision, lest the pestilent virus creep through all the members, and who, no longer posing to you any danger of the morbid contagion of their communion, together with their own severed congregations frequented their own conventicles, and retained in perpetual possession the places and basilicas which they had not invaded with the peoples adhering to them, might be terrified, driven out, expelled, and, if they resisted, be produced in court. Read what was said about them or against them by the advocates prosecuting, what charges of sacrilege were brought, with what force of accusation the authorities were stirred up; inquire what was done to Salvius of Membresa, because he could not be forced by the agitations of that persecution to return from the fellowship of the crime, and preferred to commit himself to the examination and to his persecutors in the proconsular court, I believe with the confidence that he knew his adversaries could not use the laws promulgated against heretics before a judge unless they also entangled themselves in them equally. But this thought deceived him. For before Seranus, then proconsul, either influence prevailed more, or perhaps the Council of Bagai was more powerful, which was also recited there against the same Salvius.
Citation. Tergwame, “Contra Cresconium”, stoa0040.stoa019.opp-lat1:1, machine-draft, 2026. https://naxiai.com/christian/works/stoa0040.stoa019.opp-lat1#s1
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