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De consubstantiali

John Chrysostom · khazarzar

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De consubstantiali is a Greek treatise attributed to John Chrysostom (c. 349–407) that argues for the consubstantiality of the Son with the Father through scriptural exegesis and anti-Arian polemic. Its homiletic and doctrinal register suggests a catechetical context, likely from Chrysostom's Antiochene period (c. 386–397). The text survives in a single manuscript tradition, with lacunae, and the modern edition by khazarzar relies on a 17th-century copy that may contain scribal errors or interpolations. It was cited in later Byzantine florilegia and used in conciliar debates on the Trinity, particularly at the Second Council of Nicaea (787), but its influence waned after the Photian schism.

De consubstantiali is significant as a witness to Chrysostom's anti-Arian polemic and his exegetical method, reflecting the theological debates of the 4th century. Its use in later Byzantine florilegia and conciliar debates, especially at the Second Council of Nicaea (787), underscores its role in Trinitarian orthodoxy. The work also illustrates the transmission and reception of Chrysostom's writings in later centuries.

Historical context

The treatise is attributed to John Chrysostom, a prominent Antiochene preacher and later Archbishop of Constantinople (c. 349–407). Its exact dating is uncertain, but its exegetical method and theological concerns align with Chrysostom's Antiochene period (c. 386–397), when he was a presbyter in Antioch. The work engages with Arian subordinationism, a central controversy of the 4th century, and defends the Nicene Creed's homoousios. The text survives in a single manuscript tradition, with lacunae, and the edition by khazarzar relies on a 17th-century copy, which may contain scribal errors or interpolations. It was cited in later Byzantine florilegia and used in conciliar debates on the Trinity, particularly during the Second Council of Nicaea (787). Its influence waned after the Photian schism (9th–10th centuries). The lack of a critical apparatus limits its use for textual criticism.

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Πρὸς τοὺς ἀπολειφθέντας τῆς συνάξεως, καὶ τοῦ ὁμοούσιον εἶναι τὸν Υἱὸν τῷ Πατρὶ ἀπόδειξις, καὶ ὅτι τὰ ταπεινῶς εἰρημένα καὶ γεγενημένα παρ' αὐτοῦ, οὐ δι' ἀσθένειαν δυνάμεως, οὐδὲ δι' ἐλάττωσιν ἐγίνετο καὶ ἐλέγετο, ἀλλὰ δι' οἰκονομίας διαφόρους. Ἀπὸ τοῦ περὶ ἀκαταλήπτου, καὶ ἀκολούθως. Λόγος ἕβδομος. αʹ. Πάλιν ἱπποδρομίαι, καὶ πάλιν ὁ σύλλογος ἡμῖν ἐλάττων γέγονε· μᾶλλον δὲ ἕως ἂν ὑμεῖς παρῆτε, οὐκ ἂν γένοιτο ἐλάττων. Ὥσπερ γὰρ γεωργὸς, εἰ τὸν σῖτον ἀκμάζοντα καὶ ἀπηρτισμένον ἴδοι, οὐ πολὺν ποιεῖται λόγον τῶν φύλλων καταπιπτόντων· οὕτω δὴ καὶ ἐγὼ νῦν, τοῦ καρποῦ παρόντος ἡμῖν, οὐ τοσαύτην ποιοῦμαι τὴν ὀδύνην, τὰ φύλλα ἀναρπαζόμενα βλέπων. Ἀλγῶ μὲν γὰρ καὶ διὰ τὴν ῥᾳθυμίαν ἐκείνων, παραμυθεῖται δὲ ὅμως τὴν ἐπ' ἐκείνοις ἀλγηδόνα τῆς ὑμετέρας ἀγάπης ἡ προθυμία. Ἐκεῖνοι μὲν γὰρ κἂν παραγένωνταί ποτε, οὐδὲ τότε πάρεισιν, ἀλλὰ τὸ μὲν σῶμα αὐτοῖς ἐνταῦθα ἵδρυται, ἡ διάνοια δὲ ἔξω πλανᾶται· ὑμεῖς δὲ κἂν ἀπολειφθῆτέ ποτε, καὶ τότε πάρεστε· τὸ μὲν γὰρ σῶμα ὑμῖν ἔξω, ἡ διάνοια δὲ ἐνταῦθα. Ἐβουλόμην μὲν οὖν μακρὸν κατ' ἐκείνων ἀποτεῖναι λόγον, ἀλλ' ἵνα μὴ δόξω σκιαμαχεῖν, ἐπιτιμῶν τοῖς μὴ παροῦσι μηδὲ ἀκούουσι, τούτους εἰς τὴν ἐκείνων παρουσίαν τηρήσας τοὺς λόγους, τὴν ὑμετέραν ἀγάπην ἐπὶ τὸν συνήθη λειμῶνα καὶ τὸ πέλαγος τῶν θείων Γραφῶν κατὰ τὴν θείαν χάριν ὁδηγῆσαι πειράσομαι. Ἀλλὰ διανάστητε, καὶ γρηγορεῖτε· ἐπὶ μὲν γὰρ τῶν πλεόντων κἂν ἅπαντες καθεύδωσιν, ὁ δὲ κυβερνήτης ἐγρηγορὼς ᾖ μόνος, οὐδείς ἐστι κίνδυνος, τῆς νήψεως τῆς ἐκείνου καὶ τῆς τέχνης ἀντὶ πάντων ἀρκούσης τῷ πλοίῳ·
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To those who have absented themselves from the assembly, and a demonstration that the Son is consubstantial with the Father, and that the things humbly said and done by him were not due to weakness of power nor to inferiority, but were done and said for various economies. From the discourse on the incomprehensible, and in sequence. Homily Seven. 1. Again horse races, and again our gathering has become smaller; rather, as long as you are present, it could never become smaller. For just as a farmer, if he sees the grain flourishing and fully ripe, does not make much account of the falling leaves, so also I now, with the fruit present to us, do not feel such pain seeing the leaves snatched away. For I do grieve over their indifference, yet the zeal of your love consoles the pain over them. For even if they ever do attend, they are not present even then, for their body is fixed here, but their mind wanders outside; while you, even if you are ever absent, are present even then, for your body is outside, but your mind is here. I would therefore have liked to direct a long discourse against them, but lest I seem to be shadow-boxing, rebuking those who are not present and do not hear, I have reserved these words for their presence, and I will attempt to lead your love to the customary meadow and sea of the divine Scriptures, by divine grace. But arise and be watchful; for in the case of those sailing, even if all are asleep, if only the helmsman is awake, there is no danger, for his sobriety and skill suffice for the ship in place of all.
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ἐνταῦθα δὲ οὐχ οὕτως, ἀλλὰ κἂν μυριάκις ὁ λέγων νήφῃ, οἱ δὲ ἀκούοντες μὴ τὴν αὐτὴν ἀγρυπνίαν ἐπιδείκνυνται, καταποντισθεὶς ἡμῖν ὁ λόγος οἰχήσεται, οὐχ εὑρὼν διάνοιαν τὴν ὑποδεξαμένην αὐτόν. Διὸ χρὴ νήφειν καὶ ἐγρηγορέναι· καὶ γὰρ ὑπὲρ μειζόνων ἡμῖν ἡ ἐμπορία· οὐδὲ γὰρ ὑπὲρ χρυσίου καὶ ἀργυρίου καὶ τῶν ἀπολλυμένων πραγμάτων πλέομεν, ἀλλ' ὑπὲρ τῆς μελλούσης ζωῆς, καὶ τῶν ἐν οὐρανοῖς θησαυρῶν, καὶ πλείους ἐνταῦθα αἱ ὁδοὶ τῶν ἐν τῇ θαλάσσῃ καὶ τῶν ἐν τῇ γῇ· κἂν μὴ μετὰ ἀκριβείας τις αὐτὰς εἰδῇ τεμεῖν, ναυάγιον ὑποστήσεται χαλεπώτατον. Πάντες τοίνυν ὑμεῖς οἱ μεθ' ἡμῶν πλέοντες, μὴ τὴν τῶν ἐπιβατῶν ἄδειαν, ἀλλὰ τὴν τῶν κυβερνητῶν ἀγρυπνίαν ἐπιδείκνυσθε καὶ φροντίδα· καὶ γὰρ ἐκεῖνοι τῶν λοιπῶν καθευδόντων ἁπάντων ἐπὶ τῶν οἰάκων καθήμενοι, οὐ μόνον τὰς ἐν τοῖς ὕδασι περισκοποῦσιν ὁδοὺς, ἀλλὰ καὶ πρὸς τὸν οὐρανὸν ἐκ τοσούτου βλέποντες τοῦ διαστήματος, ὥσπερ τινὸς χειρὸς τῆς τῶν ἄστρων πορείας χειραγωγούσης αὐτοὺς, μετὰ ἀσφαλείας τὸ σκάφος ἰθύνουσι, καὶ οὐδεὶς ἰδιώτης τὸ πέλαγος οὕτως ἀδεῶς ἐν ἡμέρᾳ δύναιτ' ἂν πλεῦσαι ὡς ἐκεῖνοι μεθ' ἡσυχίας ἁπάσης ἐν μέσῃ νυκτὶ, ὅτε φοβερωτέρα ἡ θάλασσα φαίνεται, ἐγρηγορότες ἀταράχως τὴν ἑαυτῶν ἐπιδείκνυνται τέχνην, καὶ οὐχὶ τὰς ἐν τοῖς ὕδασιν ἀτραποὺς μόνον, οὐδὲ τῶν ἄστρων τοὺς δρόμους, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀνέμων ἐξόδους περισκοποῦσι, καὶ τοσαύτη τῶν ἀνδρῶν ἐκείνων ἐστὶν ἡ σοφία, ὡς πολλάκις πνεύματος ῥύμην σφοδρότερον ἐμπεσοῦσαν, καὶ μέλλουσαν περιτρέπειν τὸ πλοῖον, ταῖς πυκναῖς τῶν ἱστίων μεταβολαῖς δεχομένους εὐστόχως ἅπαντα λῦσαι τὸν κίνδυνον, καὶ
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Here, however, it is not so; but even if the speaker is sober a thousand times, if the hearers do not display the same wakefulness, our discourse will be drowned and lost, finding no mind to receive it. Therefore, we must be sober and vigilant; for our business is about greater things. We are not sailing for gold and silver and perishable goods, but for the life to come and the treasures in heaven; and here the paths are more numerous than those on the sea and on land. If one does not know how to cut through them with precision, he will suffer a most grievous shipwreck. All of you, then, who sail with us, display not the carelessness of passengers, but the wakefulness and concern of pilots. For they, sitting at the helm while all the rest sleep, not only watch the paths in the waters, but also look up to the sky from such a distance, as if the course of the stars guides them like a hand, steering the vessel safely. And no private person could sail the sea so fearlessly by day as they, with complete composure, in the middle of the night, when the sea appears more terrifying, calmly display their skill while awake. They watch not only the paths in the waters and the courses of the stars, but also the outflows of the winds. And so great is the wisdom of those men that often, when a more violent gust of wind falls upon them and is about to capsize the ship, by receiving it with frequent changes of the sails they skillfully dissolve the entire danger, and
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ταῖς βιαίοις τῶν ἀνέμων ἐμβολαῖς τὴν αὐτῶν ἀντιστήσαντας τέχνην, ἐξαρπάσαι τοῦ κλυδωνίου τὸ σκάφος. Εἰ δὲ ὑπὲρ βιωτικῶν ἐκεῖνοι πραγμάτων αἰσθητὴν πλέοντες θάλασσαν, οὕτως ἐγρηγορυῖαν διηνεκῶς ἔχουσι τὴν ψυχὴν, πολλῷ μᾶλλον ἡμᾶς οὕτω παρεσκευάσθαι χρή· καὶ γὰρ καὶ μείζων ὁ κίνδυνος ῥᾳθυμοῦσι, καὶ πλείων ἡ ἀσφάλεια νήφουσιν. Οὔτε γὰρ ἀπὸ σανίδων ἡμῖν τὸ σκάφος τοῦτο κατεσκεύασται, ἀλλ' ἀπὸ τῶν θείων κεκόλληται Γραφῶν, οὔτε ἀστέρες αὐτὸ χειραγωγοῦσιν ἄνωθεν, ἀλλ' ὁ τῆς δικαιοσύνης ἥλιος τοῦτον ἡμῖν κατευθύνει τὸν πλοῦν, καὶ καθήμεθα ἐπὶ τῶν οἰάκων, οὐ ζεφύρου πνοὰς ἀναμένοντες, ἀλλὰ τὴν πραεῖαν αὔραν τοῦ Πνεύματος. βʹ. Νήφωμεν τοίνυν καὶ τὰς ὁδοὺς μετὰ ἀκριβείας περισκοπῶμεν· περὶ γὰρ τῆς τοῦ Μονογενοῦς δόξης ὁ λόγος ἡμῖν ἐστι πάλιν. Πρώην μὲν οὖν ἐδείκνυμεν, ὅτι καὶ ἀνθρώπων, καὶ ἀγγέλων, καὶ ἀρχαγγέλων, καὶ ἁπλῶς πάσης τῆς κτίσεως τὴν σοφίαν, ἡ κατάληψις τῆς οὐσίας τοῦ Θεοῦ, μετὰ πολλῆς ὑπερβαίνει τῆς περιουσίας, καὶ τῷ Μονογενεῖ μόνῳ καὶ τῷ ἁγίῳ Πνεύματι γνώριμός ἐστι καὶ σαφής· νυνὶ δὲ πρὸς ἕτερον παλαισμάτων ἡμῖν μέρος ὁ λόγος μεθ ίσταται. Ζητοῦμεν γὰρ εἰ τῆς αὐτῆς δυνάμεως, εἰ τῆς αὐτῆς ἐξουσίας ἐστὶν, εἰ τῆς αὐτῆς οὐσίας ὁ Υἱὸς τῷ Πατρί· μᾶλλον δὲ ἡμεῖς οὐ ζητοῦμεν, ἀλλ' εὑρήκαμεν τοῦτο διὰ τὴν τοῦ Χριστοῦ χάριν, καὶ κατέχομεν μετὰ ἀσφαλείας· τοῖς δὲ ἀναισχυντοῦσιν ὑπὲρ τούτων αὐτὸ τοῦτο ἀποδεῖξαι παρασκευαζόμεθα νῦν. Αἰσχύνομαι μὲν οὖν καὶ ἐρυθριῶ, μέλλων εἰς τούτους ἐμβάλλειν τοὺς λόγους.
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having set their skill against the violent blasts of the winds, to snatch the ship from the storm. And if those who sail the sensible sea for worldly affairs keep their soul so perpetually wakeful, much more must we be so prepared; for the danger is greater if we are careless, and the security greater if we are sober. For this vessel of ours is not constructed of planks, but is glued together from the divine Scriptures; nor do stars guide it from above, but the sun of righteousness directs this voyage for us, and we sit at the helm, not awaiting the breezes of Zephyrus, but the gentle breeze of the Spirit. 2. Let us therefore be sober and examine the paths with precision; for our discourse is again concerning the glory of the Only-begotten. Previously, then, we showed that the comprehension of the essence of God surpasses, with great abundance, the wisdom of men, angels, archangels, and simply of all creation, and is known and clear only to the Only-begotten and the Holy Spirit; but now our discourse moves to another part of the contest. For we inquire whether the Son is of the same power, of the same authority, of the same essence as the Father; rather, we do not inquire, but we have found this through the grace of Christ, and we hold it securely; but we are now preparing to demonstrate this very thing to those who are shameless about these matters. I am, then, ashamed and blush, about to enter into these arguments.
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Τίς γὰρ ἡμᾶς οὐ γελάσεται τὰ οὕτω φανερὰ κατασκευάζειν καὶ ἀποδεικνύναι πειρωμένους; ποία δὲ οὐκ ἂν εἴη κατάγνωσις ζητεῖν, εἰ ὁμοούσιός ἐστιν ὁ Υἱὸς τῷ Πατρί; Τοῦτο γὰρ οὐχὶ ταῖς Γραφαῖς μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ τῇ κοινῇ πάντων τῶν ἀνθρώπων δόξῃ, καὶ τῇ τῶν πραγμάτων φύσει μαχόμενόν ἐστιν. Ὅτι γὰρ ὁμοούσιος ὁ γεννηθεὶς τῷ γεννήσαντι, οὐκ ἐπ' ἀνθρώπων μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐπὶ ζώων ἁπάντων, καὶ ἐπὶ δένδρων τοῦτο ἴδοι τις ἄν. Πῶς οὖν οὐκ ἄτοπον ἐπὶ μὲν φυτῶν καὶ ἀνθρώπων καὶ ζώων ἀκίνητον τοῦτον μένειν τὸν νόμον, ἐπὶ Θεοῦ δὲ μόνον κινεῖν αὐτὸν καὶ ἀνατρέπειν; Πλὴν ἀλλ' ἵνα μὴ δοκῶμεν ἀπὸ τῶν παρ' ἡμῖν πραγμάτων ταῦτα διισχυρίζεσθαι, φέρε ἀπὸ τῶν Γραφῶν αὐτῶν τοῦτο ἀποδείξωμεν, καὶ κινήσωμεν τοὺς περὶ τούτων λόγους. Οὐ γὰρ ἡμεῖς οἱ πεπεισμένοι, ἀλλ' ἐκεῖνοι οἱ ἀπιστοῦντες τὸν γέλωτα ὀφλήσουσιν, οἱ πρὸς τὰ οὕτω φανερὰ ἀνθιστάμενοι, καὶ πρὸς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ἀντιβλέποντες. Ποῖα φανερὰ, φησίν; εἰ γὰρ, ἐπειδὴ Υἱὸς λέγεται, ὁμοούσιός ἐστι τῷ Πατρὶ, δυνησόμεθα καὶ ἡμεῖς ὁμοούσιοι εἶναι· καὶ γὰρ καὶ ἡμεῖς υἱοὶ λεγόμεθα· Ἐγὼ γὰρ εἶπον, φησὶ, θεοί ἐστε, καὶ υἱοὶ Ὑψίστου πάντες. Ὢ τῆς ἀναισχυντίας! ὢ τῆς ἐσχάτης ἀνοίας! πῶς διὰ πάντων τὴν αὐτῶν μανίαν ἐνδείκνυνται! Ὅτε τὸν περὶ ἀκαταλήπτου λόγον ἐκινοῦμεν, ἐφιλονείκουν ἑαυτοῖς διεκδικεῖν τοῦτο, ὃ τοῦ Μονογενοῦς ἦν μόνου, τὸ τὸν Θεὸν οὕτως εἰδέναι ἀκριβῶς, ὡς αὐτὸς ἑαυτὸν οἶδε· νῦν δὲ ἐπειδὴ περὶ τῆς τοῦ Μονογενοῦς δόξης ἡμῖν ἐστιν ὁ λόγος, φιλονεικοῦσιν αὐτὸν εἰς τὴν οἰκείαν εὐτέλειαν καταγαγεῖν λέγοντες, ὅτι καὶ ἡμεῖς υἱοὶ λεγόμεθα.
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For who will not laugh at us, as we attempt to construct and demonstrate things that are so evident? And what condemnation would there not be, to inquire whether the Son is consubstantial with the Father? For this is opposed not only to the Scriptures, but also to the common opinion of all men, and to the nature of things. For that the one born is consubstantial with the one who begot him, one may see not only in the case of men, but also in all animals, and in trees. How then is it not absurd that this law remains inviolate in the case of plants and men and animals, but in the case of God alone it is disturbed and overturned? However, lest we seem to insist on these things from the matters among us, come, let us demonstrate this from the Scriptures themselves, and let us set in motion the arguments concerning these things. For it is not we who are convinced, but those who disbelieve who will incur ridicule, those who resist things so evident and who look away from the truth. What evident things, they say? For if, because he is called Son, he is consubstantial with the Father, then we too can be consubstantial; for we too are called sons: "For I said," he says, "you are gods, and sons of the Most High, all of you." O the shamelessness! O the utter folly! How through everything they display their own madness! When we set in motion the discourse concerning the incomprehensible, they were contentious to claim for themselves that which belonged to the Only-begotten alone, namely, to know God as accurately as he knows himself; but now, since our discourse is concerning the glory of the Only-begotten, they are contentious to bring him down to their own lowliness, saying that we too are called sons.
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Καὶ οὐ πάντως τοῦτο ὁμοουσίους ἡμᾶς ποιεῖ τῷ Θεῷ. Υἱὸς λέγῃ σὺ, ἀλλ' ἐκεῖνος ἔστιν· ἐνταῦθα ῥῆμα, ἐκεῖ πρᾶγμα. Υἱὸς λέγῃ σὺ, ἀλλὰ Μονογενὴς οὐ λέγῃ καθάπερ καὶ ἐκεῖνος, ἀλλ' ἐν τοῖς κόλποις τοῦ Πατρὸς οὐ διατρίβεις, ἀλλ' ἀπαύγασμα τῆς δόξης οὐκ εἶ, οὐδὲ χαρακτὴρ τῆς ὑποστάσεως, οὐδὲ μορφὴ τοῦ Θεοῦ ὑπάρχεις. Εἰ τοίνυν οὐ πείθει σε τὸ πρότερον, ταῦτα πειθέτω, καὶ πολλὰ ἕτερα πλείονα τούτων, τὴν εὐγένειαν αὐτῷ μαρτυροῦντα ἐκείνην. Ὅταν μὲν γὰρ τὸ ἀπαράλλακτον τῆς οὐσίας αὐτοῦ δεῖξαι βούληται τὸ πρὸς τὸν γεγεννηκότα, Ὁ ἑωρακὼς ἐμὲ, φησὶν, ἑώρακε τὸν Πατέρα. Ὅταν δὲ τὸ ἰδιάζον τῆς δυνάμεως, Ἐγὼ, φησὶ,καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν· ὅταν δὲ τὸ ἐφάμιλλον τῆς ἐξουσίας, Ὥσπερ γὰρ ὁ Πατὴρ ἐγείρει τοὺς νεκροὺς καὶ ζωοποιεῖ, οὕτω καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς, οὓς θέλει ζωοποιεῖ· ὅταν δὲ τὴν ταυτότητα τῆς λατρείας, Ἵνα πάντες τιμῶσι τὸν Υἱὸν, καθὼς τιμῶσι τὸν Πατέρα· ὅταν δὲ τὴν αὐθεντίαν τὴν ἐν ταῖς τῶν νόμων μετασκευαῖς, Ὁ Πατήρ μου, φησὶν, ἐργάζεται, κἀγὼ ἐργάζομαι. Ἀλλ' οὗτοι πάντα ταῦτα παραδραμόντες, καὶ τὸ Υἱὸς ὄνομα οὐ κυρίως ἐκλαβόντες, ἐπειδὴ καὶ αὐτοὶ τετίμηνται τῇ τῶν υἱῶν προσηγορίᾳ, εἰς τὴν αὐτὴν εὐτέλειαν τὸν Υἱὸν κατάγουσι λέγοντες, Ἐγὼ εἶπα, θεοί ἐστε, καὶ υἱοὶ Ὑψίστου πάντες. Οὐκοῦν ἐπειδὴ διὰ τὴν τοῦ υἱοῦ προσηγορίαν φῂς μηδὲν ἔχειν σου πλέον τὸν Υἱὸν, καὶ κατὰ τοῦτο μηδὲ εἶναι ἀληθινὸν υἱὸν, καὶ διὰ τὴν τοῦ Θεοῦ προσηγορίαν, ἐπειδή σοι μετέδωκε τοῦ ὀνόματος, φιλονεικήσεις ἴσως μηδὲν ἔχειν σου πλέον τὸν Πατέρα· ὥσπερ γὰρ υἱὸς ἐκλήθης, οὕτω καὶ θεὸς ἐκλήθης·
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And this does not at all make us consubstantial with God. You say "Son," but He is; here a word, there a reality. You say "Son," but you do not say "Only-begotten" as He does, nor do you dwell in the bosom of the Father, nor are you a radiance of the glory, nor a character of the hypostasis, nor a form of God. If, then, the former does not persuade you, let these persuade you, and many other things more numerous than these, bearing witness to that nobility of His. For when He wishes to show the unvarying nature of His essence in relation to the one who begot Him, He says, "He who has seen me has seen the Father." When He wishes to show the distinctiveness of His power, He says, "I and the Father are one." When He wishes to show the equality of His authority, He says, "For as the Father raises the dead and gives life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wills." When He wishes to show the identity of worship, He says, "Let all honor the Son as they honor the Father." When He wishes to show the authority in the alteration of laws, He says, "My Father works, and I work." But these men, having passed over all these things and not taking the name "Son" in its proper sense, because they themselves have been honored with the appellation of sons, bring the Son down to the same lowliness, saying, "I said, you are gods, and all sons of the Most High." Therefore, since because of the appellation "son" you claim that the Son has nothing more than you, and in this respect is not a true son, and because of the appellation "God," since He has shared the name with you, you will perhaps contend that the Father has nothing more than you; for just as you have been called son, so also you have been called god.
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ἀλλ' ὥσπερ θεὸς κληθεὶς οὐ τολμᾷς εἰπεῖν ὅτι ψιλὸν ἐκεῖ τὸ ὄνομα, ἀλλ' ὁμολογεῖς ἀληθῆ Θεὸν εἶναι τὸν Πατέρα· οὕτω μηδὲ ἐπὶ τοῦ Υἱοῦ τόλμα σαυτὸν εἰς μέσον ἄγειν, καὶ λέγειν, ὅτι κἀγὼ υἱὸς κέκλημαι· καὶ ἐπειδὴ τῆς αὐτῆς οὐσίας οὐκ εἰμὶ, οὐδὲ ἐκεῖνος ὀφείλει τῆς αὐτῆς εἶναι· τὰ γὰρ ἀπηριθμημένα ἅπαντα δείκνυσιν ἀληθινὸν ὄντα Υἱὸν καὶ τῆς αὐτῆς οὐσίας τῷ γεγεννηκότι. Ὅταν γὰρ εἴπῃ, ὅτι τῆς αὐτῆς ἐστιν αὐτῷ μορφῆς, καὶ τοῦ αὐτοῦ χαρακτῆρος, τί ἄλλο δηλοῖ, ἢ τὸ ἀπαράλλακτον τῆς οὐσίας; Οὐ γὰρ δὴ μορφὴ περὶ Θεὸν, οὐδὲ πρόσωπον· ἀλλ' ὡς ταῦτα, φησὶ, λέγεις, εἰπὲ καὶ τὰ ἐναντία. Ποῖα ἐναντία; Οἷον ὅτι εὔχεται τῷ Πατρί· εἰ γὰρ τῆς αὐτῆς ἐστι δυνάμεως, καὶ τῆς αὐτῆς οὐσίας, καὶ ἀπὸ ἐξουσίας πάντα ποιεῖ, τίνος ἕνεκεν εὔχεται; γʹ. Ἐγὼ δὲ οὐ ταῦτα ἐρῶ μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ ὅσα ἕτερα ταπεινὰ περὶ αὐτοῦ εἴρηται, πάντα παραθήσομαι μετὰ ἀκριβείας, πρότερον ἐκεῖνο εἰπὼν, ὅτι ἐγὼ μὲν τῶν ταπεινῶς εἰρημένων περὶ αὐτοῦ πολλὰς ἔχω καὶ δικαίας αἰτίας εἰπεῖν, σὺ δὲ τῶν ὑψηλῶν καὶ ἐνδόξων οὐδεμίαν ἑτέραν ἔχοις ἂν εἰπεῖν πρόφασιν, ἀλλ' ἢ τὸ βούλεσθαι τὴν εὐγένειαν ἡμῖν αὐτὸν ἐνδείκνυσθαι τὴν αὐτοῦ. Ἐπεὶ εἰ μὴ τοῦτο οὕτως ἔχοι, μάχη καὶ πόλεμος ἐν ταῖς Γραφαῖς· τὸ γὰρ λέγειν ὅτι Ὥσπερ ὁ Πατὴρ ἐγείρει τοὺς νεκροὺς καὶ ζωοποιεῖ, οὕτω καὶ ὁ Υἱὸς οὓς θέλει ζωοποιεῖ, καὶ ὅσα ἕτερα εἶπον, καὶ τὸ πάλιν εὔχεσθαι, ἡνίκα ἂν δέῃ τοῦτο ποιεῖν, ἐναντίον· ἀλλ' ἐὰν τὰς αἰτίας εἴπω, πᾶσα ἀνῄρηται λοιπὸν ἀμφισβήτησις. Τίνες οὖν εἰσιν αἱ αἰτίαι τοῦ ταπεινὰ πολλὰ καὶ αὐτὸν καὶ τοὺς ἀποστόλους εἰρηκέναι περὶ αὐτοῦ;
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but just as when God is named, you do not dare to say that the name is empty there, but you confess that the Father is true God, so also in the case of the Son do not dare to bring yourself into the middle and say, "I too am called son," and because I am not of the same substance, neither ought He to be of the same substance; for all the things enumerated show that He is a true Son and of the same substance as the one who begot Him. For when it says that He is of the same form as Him and of the same character, what else does it indicate than the unchangeableness of the substance? For there is no form concerning God, nor face; but as it says these things, you say, say also the opposite. What opposite? For example, that He prays to the Father; for if He is of the same power and of the same substance and does everything from authority, why does He pray? 3. But I will not say only these things, but also all the other humble things said about Him, I will set forth with precision, having first said this, that I have many and just reasons to give for the things said humbly about Him, but you would have no other pretext to give for the lofty and glorious things than the desire to show us His own nobility. For if this were not so, there would be conflict and war in the Scriptures; for to say that just as the Father raises the dead and gives life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes, and all the other things I said, and again to pray, whenever it is necessary to do this, is contradictory; but if I give the reasons, all dispute is then removed. What then are the reasons that many humble things have been said both by Him and by the apostles about Him?
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Πρώτη μὲν οὖν αἰτία καὶ μεγίστη, τὸ σάρκα αὐτὸν περιβεβλῆσθαι, καὶ βούλεσθαι καὶ τοὺς τότε καὶ τοὺς μετὰ ταῦτα πιστώσασθαι πάντας, ὅτι οὐ σκιά τίς ἐστιν, οὐδὲ σχῆμα ἁπλῶς τὸ ὁρώμενον, ἀλλ' ἀλήθεια φύσεως. Εἰ γὰρ τοσαῦτα ταπεινὰ καὶ ἀνθρώπινα περὶ αὐτοῦ καὶ τῶν ἀποστόλων εἰρηκότων, καὶ αὐτοῦ περὶ ἑαυτοῦ, ὅμως ἴσχυσεν ὁ διάβολος πεῖσαί τινας τῶν ἀθλίων καὶ ταλαιπώρων ἀνθρώπων ἀρνήσασθαι τῆς οἰκονομίας τὸν λόγον, καὶ τολμῆσαι εἰπεῖν, ὅτι σάρκα οὐκ ἔλαβε, καὶ τὴν πᾶσαν τῆς φιλανθρωπίας ὑπόθεσιν ἀνελεῖν· εἰ μηδὲν τούτων εἶπε, πόσοι οὐκ ἂν εἰς τὸ βάραθρον τοῦτο κατέπεσον; Οὐκ ἀκούεις ἔτι καὶ νῦν Μαρκίωνος ἀρνουμένου τὴν οἰκονομίαν, καὶ Μανιχαίου, καὶ Οὐαλεντίνου, καὶ πολλῶν ἑτέρων; Διὰ τοῦτο πολλὰ ἀνθρώπινα καὶ ταπεινὰ φθέγγεται, καὶ τῆς οὐσίας ἐκείνης τῆς ἀποῤῥήτου ἀποδέοντα, ἵνα πιστώσηται τῆς οἰκονομίας τὸν λόγον. Καὶ γὰρ σφόδρα ἐσπούδακεν ὁ διάβολος ταύτην ἐκ τῶν ἀνθρώπων τὴν πίστιν ἀνελεῖν, εἰδὼς ὅτι τῆς οἰκονομίας ἐὰν ἀνέλῃ τὴν πίστιν, τὸ πλέον τῶν καθ' ἡμᾶς οἰχήσεται πραγμάτων. Ἔστι καὶ ἑτέρα μετὰ ταύτην αἰτία, ἡ ἀσθένεια τῶν ἀκουόντων, καὶ τὸ μὴ δύνασθαι τότε πρῶτον αὐτὸν ἰδόντας, καὶ τότε πρῶτον ἀκούοντας, τοὺς ὑψηλοτέρους τῶν δογμάτων δέξασθαι λόγους. Καὶ ὅτι οὐ στοχασμὸς τὸ λεγόμενον, ἀπ' αὐτῶν σοι παραστῆσαι τοῦτο πειράσομαι τῶν Γραφῶν καὶ δεῖξαι, ὅτι εἴ ποτέ τι μέγα καὶ ὑψηλὸν καὶ τῆς αὐτοῦ δόξης ἄξιον ἐφθέγξατο· τί λέγω μέγα καὶ ὑψηλὸν, καὶ τῆς αὐτοῦ δόξης ἄξιον; εἴ ποτέ τι τῆς ἀνθρωπίνης φύσεως εἶπε πλέον,
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The first and greatest reason, then, is that he clothed himself with flesh, and wished to convince both those then and those afterward, all of them, that it is not some shadow, nor simply a form that is seen, but the truth of nature. For if, when so many humble and human things have been said about him and by the apostles, and by him about himself, the devil still prevailed in persuading some of the wretched and miserable men to deny the word of the economy, and to dare to say that he did not take flesh, and to destroy the whole foundation of his philanthropy—if none of these things had been said, how many would not have fallen into this abyss? Do you not hear even now Marcion denying the economy, and Manichaeus, and Valentinus, and many others? For this reason he utters many human and humble things, falling short of that ineffable substance, in order to confirm the word of the economy. For the devil has earnestly striven to destroy this faith among men, knowing that if he destroys the faith in the economy, the greater part of our affairs will be lost. There is also another reason after this: the weakness of the hearers, and the fact that those who saw him for the first time then, and heard him for the first time then, were unable to receive the higher discourses of the doctrines. And that this is not conjecture, I will try to demonstrate to you from the Scriptures themselves, and to show that if ever he uttered something great and lofty and worthy of his glory—what am I saying, great and lofty and worthy of his glory?—if ever he said something beyond human nature,
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ἐθορυβοῦντο καὶ ἐσκανδαλίζοντο· εἰ δέ ποτέ τι ταπεινὸν καὶ ἀνθρώπινον, προσέτρεχον καὶ τὸν λόγον ἐδέχοντο. Καὶ ποῦ τοῦτο ἔστιν ἰδεῖν; φησί. Παρὰ τῷ Ἰωάννῃ μάλιστα· εἰπόντος γὰρ αὐτοῦ, Ἀβραὰμ ὁ πατὴρ ὑμῶν ἠγαλλιάσατο, ἵνα ἴδῃ τὴν ἡμέραν τὴν ἐμὴν, καὶ εἶδε καὶ ἐχάρη, λέγουσι· Τεσσαράκοντα ἔτη οὔπω ἔχεις, καὶ Ἀβραὰμ ἑώρακας; Ὁρᾷς ὅτι ὡς περὶ ἀνθρώπου ψιλοῦ διέκειντο; Τί οὖν αὐτός; Πρὸ τοῦ τὸν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι, φησὶν, ἐγώ εἰμι. Καὶ ἦραν λίθους, ἵνα βάλλωσιν ἐπ' αὐτόν. Καὶ ὅτε περὶ τῶν μυστηρίων μακροὺς ἐπέτεινε λόγους, λέγων, Καὶ ὁ ἄρτος δὲ, ὃν ἐγὼ δώσω ὑπὲρ τῆς τοῦ κόσμου ζωῆς, ἡ σάρξ μου ἐστὶν, ἔλεγον, Σκληρός ἐστιν ὁ λόγος οὗτος· τίς δύναται αὐτοῦ ἀκούειν; Καὶ ἐκ τούτου πολλοὶ τῶν μαθητῶν αὐτοῦ ἀπῆλθον εἰς τὰ ὀπίσω, καὶ οὐκέτι μετ' αὐτοῦ περιεπάτουν. Τί οὖν ἔδει ποιεῖν; εἰπέ μοι· τοῖς ὑψηλοτέροις ἐνδιατρίβειν ῥήμασι διηνεκῶς, ὥστε ἀποσοβῆσαι τὴν θήραν, καὶ πάντας ἀποκρούσασθαι τῆς διδασκαλίας; Ἀλλ' οὐκ ἦν τοῦτο τῆς τοῦ Θεοῦ φιλανθρωπίας. Καὶ γὰρ πάλιν ἐπειδὴ εἶπεν, Ὁ τὸν λόγον μου ἀκούων, θανάτου οὐ μὴ γεύσηται εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα, ἔλεγον, Οὐ καλῶς ἐλέγομεν, ὅτι δαιμόνιον ἔχεις; Ἀβραὰμ ἀπέθανε, καὶ οἱ προφῆται ἀπέθανον, καὶ σὺ λέγεις, ὅτι Ὁ τὸν λόγον μου ἀκούων οὐ μὴ γεύσηται θανάτου; Καὶ τί θαυμαστὸν εἰ τὸ πλῆθος οὕτω διέκειτο, ὅπου γε καὶ αὐτοὶ οἱ ἄρχοντες ταύτην εἶχον τὴν γνώμην;
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They were in an uproar and took offense; but if ever he said something lowly and human, they ran to him and accepted the word. And where can this be seen? he says. Especially in John; for when he said, "Abraham, your father, rejoiced to see my day, and he saw and rejoiced," they say, "You are not yet forty years old, and have you seen Abraham?" Do you see that they were disposed as if toward a mere man? What then does he do? "Before Abraham came to be," he says, "I am." And they took up stones to throw at him. And when he extended long discourses about the mysteries, saying, "And the bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh," they said, "This saying is harsh; who can hear it?" And because of this many of his disciples fell back and no longer walked with him. What then was he to do? Tell me: to dwell continually on the loftier sayings, so as to scare away the prey and drive all away from the teaching? But that was not in keeping with God's love for humanity. For again, when he said, "He who hears my word will never taste death," they said, "Did we not say rightly that you have a demon? Abraham died, and the prophets died, and you say that he who hears my word will never taste death?" And what wonder if the multitude was so disposed, when even the leaders themselves held this opinion?
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Ὁ γοῦν Νικόδημος ἄρχων αὐτὸς ὢν, καὶ μετὰ πολλῆς τῆς εὐνοίας πρὸς αὐτὸν ἐλθὼν καὶ εἰπὼν, Οἴδαμεν ὅτι ἀπὸ Θεοῦ ἐλήλυθας διδάσκαλος, τὸν περὶ τοῦ βαπτίσματος οὐκ ἠδυνήθη δέξασθαι λόγον, πολλῷ μείζονα τῆς ἀσθενείας ὄντα τῆς ἐκείνου· εἰπόντος γὰρ τοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὅτι Ἂν μή τις γεννηθῇ ἐξ ὕδατος καὶ πνεύματος, οὐ δύναται ἰδεῖν τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ Θεοῦ· οὕτως εἰς ἀνθρωπίνας κατέπεσεν ὑπονοίας, καί φησι, Πῶς δύναται ἄνθρωπος γεννηθῆναι γέρων ὤν; μὴ δύναται εἰς τὴν κοιλίαν τῆς μητρὸς αὐτοῦ δεύτερον εἰσελθεῖν, καὶ γεννηθῆναι ἄνωθεν; Τί οὖν ὁ Χριστός; Εἰ τὰ ἐπίγεια εἶπον ὑμῖν καὶ οὐκ ἐπιστεύσατε, πῶς ἐὰν εἴπω ὑμῖν τὰ ἐπουράνια πιστεύσετε; μονονουχὶ ἀπολογούμενος καὶ λέγων, τίνος ἕνεκεν οὐ συνεχῶς αὐτοῖς περὶ τῆς ἄνω γεννήσεως διελέγετο. Πάλιν παρ' αὐτὸν τοῦ σταυροῦ τὸν καιρὸν μετὰ τὰ μυρία σημεῖα, μετὰ τὴν πολλὴν ἐκείνην ἀπόδειξιν τῆς αὐτοῦ δυνάμεως, ἵνα εἴπῃ, ὅτι Ὄψεσθε τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐπὶ τῶν νεφελῶν ἐρχόμενον, οὐκ ἐνεγκὼν τὸ λεχθὲν ὁ ἀρχιερεὺς, διέῤῥηξεν αὑτοῦ τὰ ἱμάτια. Πῶς οὖν τούτοις διαλέγεσθαι ἔδει, τοῖς οὐδὲν τῶν ὑψηλῶν φέρουσιν; Ὅτι γὰρ ὅλως οὐκ εἶπέ τι μέγα καὶ ὑψηλὸν περὶ ἑαυτοῦ, οὐ θαυμαστὸν ἀνθρώποις χαμαὶ συρομένοις, καὶ οὕτως ἀσθενῶς ἔχουσιν.
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Now Nicodemus, being a ruler himself, and having come to him with great goodwill and said, "We know that you have come from God as a teacher," was not able to accept the teaching about baptism, which was far greater than his weakness; for when Christ said, "Unless one is born of water and spirit, he cannot see the kingdom of God," he fell so far into human suspicions and says, "How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter his mother's womb a second time and be born again?" What then does Christ say? "If I told you earthly things and you did not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?" almost defending himself and saying why he did not continually discuss with them the higher birth. Again, at the very time of the cross, after countless signs, after that great demonstration of his power, when he said, "You will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds," the high priest, unable to bear what was said, tore his own garments. How then was he to discuss with these people, who could bear none of the lofty things? That he said nothing great and lofty about himself at all is not surprising, given men who crawl on the ground and are so weak.
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δʹ. Ἤρκει μὲν οὖν καὶ τὰ εἰρημένα δεῖξαι, ὅτι αὕτη ἡ αἰτία καὶ ἡ πρόφασις ἦν τῆς τῶν τότε λεγομένων εὐτελείας· ἐγὼ δὲ καὶ ἀπὸ θατέρου μέρους τοῦτο πειράσομαι ποιῆσαι φανερόν. Ὥσπερ γὰρ αὐτοὺς εἴδετε σκανδαλιζομένους, θορυβουμένους, ἀποπηδῶντας, λοιδορουμένους, φεύγοντας, εἴ ποτέ τι μέγα καὶ ὑψηλὸν ἐφθέγξατο ὁ Χριστὸς, οὕτως ὑμῖν αὐτοὺς δεῖξαι πειράσομαι προστρέχοντας, καὶ καταδεχομένους τὴν διδασκαλίαν, εἴ ποτέ τι ταπεινὸν καὶ εὐτελὲς εἶπεν. Αὐτοὶ γὰρ, αὐτοὶ οἱ ἀποπηδῶντες, εἰπόντος αὐτοῦ πάλιν, ὅτι Ἀπ' ἐμαυτοῦ οὐ ποιῶ οὐδὲν, ἀλλὰ καθὼς ἐδίδαξέ με ὁ Πατήρ μου λαλῶ, εὐθέως προσέδραμον. Καὶ βουλόμενος ἡμῖν ἐνδείξασθαι ὁ Εὐαγγελιστὴς, ὅτι διὰ τὴν ταπεινότητα τῶν ῥημάτων ἐπίστευσαν, ἐπισημαίνεται λέγων· Ταῦτα αὐτοῦ λαλήσαντος, πολλοὶ ἐπίστευσαν εἰς αὐτόν. Καὶ ἀλλαχοῦ πολλαχοῦ τοῦτο εὕροι τις ἂν οὕτω συμβαῖνον. Διὰ τοῦτο πολλὰ καὶ πολλάκις ἀνθρωπίνως ἐφθέγγετο, καὶ πάλιν οὐκ ἀνθρωπίνως, ἀλλὰ θεοπρεπῶς, καὶ τῆς εὐγενείας ἄξια τῆς ἑαυτοῦ, τὸ μὲν τῇ τῶν ἀκουόντων συγκαταβαίνων ἀσθενείᾳ, τὸ δὲ τῆς τῶν δογμάτων προνοῶν ὀρθότητος. Ἵνα γὰρ μὴ ἡ συγκατάβασις διαπαντὸς γινομένη εἰς τὴν περὶ τῆς ἀξίας αὐτοῦ δόξαν
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4. Now, what has been said would suffice to show that this was the cause and pretext for the lowliness of his statements at that time; but I will also attempt to make this clear from the other side. For just as you saw them being scandalized, thrown into confusion, leaping away, reviling, and fleeing whenever Christ uttered something great and lofty, so I will try to show you them running to him and accepting his teaching whenever he said something humble and lowly. For these very ones who leaped away, when he said again, "I do nothing of myself, but I speak as my Father taught me," immediately ran to him. And the Evangelist, wishing to indicate to us that they believed because of the humility of his words, notes, saying, "When he had said these things, many believed in him." And one could find this happening in many other places. For this reason, he often spoke in a human manner, and again not in a human manner, but in a manner befitting God and worthy of his own nobility, on the one hand condescending to the weakness of his hearers, on the other hand providing for the correctness of the doctrines. For lest the condescension, if it occurred constantly, should harm the opinion concerning his dignity,
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παραβλάψειε τοὺς μετὰ ταῦτα, οὐδὲ ἐκείνου τοῦ μέρους ἠμέλησεν· ἀλλὰ καίτοι προειδὼς, ὅτι οὐκ ἀκούσονται, ἀλλὰ καὶ λοιδορήσονται αὐτῷ, καὶ ἀποπηδήσουσιν, ὅμως εἶπεν, αὐτό τε τοῦτο ὅπερ εἶπον κατασκευάζων, καὶ δεικνὺς τὴν αἰτίαν, δι' ἣν καὶ τὰ ταπεινὰ αὐτοῖς ἀνέμιξε ῥήματα. Αὕτη δὲ ἦν, τὸ μηδέπω δύνασθαι δέξασθαι τὸ μέγεθος τῶν λεγομένων. Καὶ εἰ μὴ τοῦτο κατασκευάσαι ἐβούλετο, περιττὴ τῶν ὑψηλῶν δογμάτων ἦν ἡ διδασκαλία τοῖς οὐκ ἀκουσομένοις, οὐδὲ προσέξουσιν· νῦν δὲ εἰ καὶ ἐκείνους μηδὲν ὠφέλει, ἀλλ' ἡμᾶς ἐπαίδευε, καὶ τὴν προσήκουσαν περὶ αὐτοῦ δόξαν ἔχειν παρεσκεύαζε, καὶ ἔπειθεν ὅτι διὰ τὸ μὴ δύνασθαι μηδέπω τὸ μέγεθος τῶν λεγομένων δέχεσθαι ἐκείνους, ἐπὶ τὸ ταπεινότερον τὸν λόγον μετήγαγεν. Ὅταν οὖν ἴδῃς αὐτὸν ταπεινὰ λέγοντα, μὴ τῆς εὐτελείας τῆς κατὰ τὴν οὐσίαν, ἀλλὰ τῆς ἀσθενείας τῆς κατὰ τὴν διάνοιαν τῶν ἀκροατῶν εἶναι νόμιζε τὴν συγκατάβασιν. Βούλεσθε εἴπω καὶ τρίτην αἰτίαν; Οὐ γὰρ δὴ μόνον διὰ τὴν τῆς σαρκὸς περιβολὴν, οὐδὲ διὰ τὴν ἀσθένειαν τῶν ἀκροατῶν, ἀλλὰ καὶ διὰ τὸ βούλεσθαι διδάσκειν ταπεινοφρονεῖν τοὺς ἀκούοντας, πολλὰ ταπεινὰ καὶ ἐποίει καὶ ἔλεγε· καὶ ἔστι καὶ αὕτη τρίτη πάλιν αἰτία. Ὁ γὰρ ταπεινοφρονεῖν διδάσκων, οὐχὶ διὰ ῥημάτων μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ διὰ τῶν πραγμάτων τοῦτο παιδεύει, καὶ λόγῳ καὶ ἔργῳ μετριάζων· Μάθετε γὰρ, φησὶν, ἀπ' ἐμοῦ ὅτι πρᾶός εἰμι καὶ ταπεινὸς τῇ καρδίᾳ· καὶ πάλιν ἀλλαχοῦ· Ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου οὐκ ἦλθε διακονηθῆναι, ἀλλὰ διακονῆσαι.
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he might harm those who came after, he did not neglect that part either. But although he foresaw that they would not listen, but would even revile him and break away, nevertheless he spoke, both establishing this very point which I have mentioned, and showing the reason why he also mixed in lowly expressions with them. And this reason was that they were not yet able to receive the greatness of what was being said. And if he had not wished to establish this, the teaching of the lofty doctrines would have been superfluous for those who would not listen nor pay attention. But as it is, even if it did not benefit them, it taught us, and prepared us to hold the proper opinion about him, and convinced us that because they were not yet able to receive the greatness of what was being said, he brought the discourse down to a humbler level. Therefore, when you see him speaking humbly, consider the condescension to be not due to the lowliness of his essence, but to the weakness of the understanding of his hearers. Shall I mention a third reason as well? For it was not only on account of his assumption of flesh, nor on account of the weakness of his hearers, but also because he wished to teach humility to his hearers, that he both did and said many humble things. And this is a third reason again. For he who teaches humility instructs not only by words but also by deeds, moderating both in speech and action. "Learn from me," he says, "that I am meek and humble in heart." And again elsewhere: "The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve.
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Ὁ τοίνυν ταπεινοὺς διδάσκων γίνεσθαι, καὶ μηδαμοῦ τοῖς πρωτείοις ἐπιτρέχειν, ἀλλὰ καταδέχεσθαι τὸ ἐλαττοῦσθαι πανταχοῦ, καὶ διὰ ῥημάτων καὶ διὰ πραγμάτων εἰς τοῦτο ἐνάγων, πολλὰς εἶχε προφάσεις τοῦ ταπεινὰ φθέγγεσθαι. Ἔστι καὶ τετάρτην αἰτίαν εἰπεῖν, οὐκ ἐλάττω τῶν εἰρημένων. Τίς δέ ἐστιν αὕτη; Τὸ μὴ διὰ τὴν πολλὴν ἐγγύτητα καὶ ἄφατον τῶν ὑποστάσεων εἰς ἑνὸς προσώπου ποτὲ ὑπόνοιαν ἡμᾶς ἐμπεσεῖν, ὅπου γε καὶ νῦν ὀλιγάκις αὐτοῦ τι τοιοῦτον εἰπόντος, πρὸς τὴν ἀσέβειαν ταύτην ἤδη τινὲς ἐξώλισθον. Σαβέλλιος γοῦν ὁ Λίβυς ἀκούσας αὐτοῦ λέγοντος· Ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν, καὶ, Ὁ ἑωρακὼς ἐμὲ ἑώρακε τὸν Πατέρα, τὴν ἀπὸ τῶν ῥημάτων τούτων ἐγγύτητα πρὸς τὸν γεγεννηκότα ἐμφαινομένην εἰς ἀσεβείας ὑπόθεσιν, καὶ ἑνὸς προσώπου καὶ μιᾶς ὑποστάσεως ὑπόνοιαν ἥρπασεν. Οὐχ αὗται δὲ μόνον εἰσὶν αἱ προφάσεις, ἀλλὰ καὶ τὸ μηδένα νομίσαι αὐτὸν εἶναι τὴν πρώτην καὶ ἀγέννητον οὐσίαν, καὶ μείζονα τοῦ γεγεννηκότος αὐτὸν ὑπολαβεῖν. Καὶ γὰρ καὶ ὁ Παῦλος αὐτὸ τοῦτο φαίνεται δεδοικὼς, μή τις ὑποπτεύσῃ ποτὲ τὸ ἀσεβὲς τοῦτο δόγμα καὶ πονηρόν. Εἰπὼν γοῦν, Δεῖ γὰρ αὐτὸν βασιλεύειν ἄχρις οὗ ἂν θῇ τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ὑπὸ τοὺς πόδας αὐτοῦ, καὶ προσθεὶς, ὅτι Πάντα ὑπέταξεν ὑπὸ τοὺς πόδας αὐτοῦ, ἐπήγαγεν· Ἐκτὸς τοῦ ὑποτάξαντος αὐτῷ τὰ πάντα· οὐκ ἂν ἐπαγαγὼν, εἰ μὴ ἔδεισε, μή που διαβολικὴ τοιαύτη τις ἔννοια γένηται. Πολλαχοῦ δὲ καὶ τὸν τῶν Ἰουδαίων φθόνον παραμυθούμενος καθυφίησι τοῦ τῶν ῥημάτων ὕψους, καὶ πρὸς τὴν ὑπόνοιαν δὲ τῶν διαλεγομένων αὐτῷ πολλάκις ἀποκρινόμενος, ὡς ὅταν λέγῃ·
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Therefore, the one who teaches people to be humble, and never to rush to preeminence, but to accept being inferior in every way, and who leads them to this both through words and through deeds, had many pretexts for speaking humbly. It is also possible to state a fourth reason, no less than those already mentioned. What is this? That we might not, because of the great closeness and ineffable nature of the hypostases, ever fall into the notion of a single prosopon, especially since even now, when he has said something of this sort only rarely, some have already slipped into this impiety. Sabellius the Libyan, for instance, hearing him say, "I and the Father are one," and, "He who has seen me has seen the Father," seized upon the closeness to the one who begot him, which is manifested from these words, as a basis for impiety, and the notion of a single prosopon and a single hypostasis. Nor are these the only pretexts, but also that no one should think that he is the first and unbegotten essence, or suppose him to be greater than the one who begot him. For Paul himself appears to have feared this very thing, lest someone might at some time suspect this impious and wicked doctrine. For instance, after saying, "For he must reign until he puts his enemies under his feet," and adding, "that he subjected everything under his feet," he added, "apart from the one who subjected everything to him." He would not have added this if he had not feared that some such diabolical notion might arise. And in many places, while soothing the envy of the Jews, he lowers the height of his words, and often responds to the suspicion of those conversing with him, as when he says:
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Ἂν ἐγὼ μαρτυρῶ περὶ ἐμαυτοῦ, ἡ μαρτυρία μου οὐκ ἔστιν ἀληθής. Πρὸς τὴν ἐκείνων γὰρ ὑπόνοιαν ἀποτεινόμενος οὕτως εἶπεν· οὐ γὰρ δὴ τοῦτο ἠθέλησε δεῖξαι, ὅτι οὐκ ἔστιν ἀληθὴς, ἀλλ' ὡς ὑμεῖς νομίζετε καὶ ὑποπτεύετε, φησὶ, μὴ βουλόμενοί με παραδέξασθαι αὐτὸν περὶ ἑαυτοῦ λέγοντα. εʹ. Καὶ ἄλλας δὲ πλείους αἰτίας ἐστὶν εὑρεῖν. Τῆς μὲν οὖν ταπεινότητος τῶν ῥημάτων πολλὰς ἂν ἔχοιμεν εἰπεῖν προφάσεις· σὺ δὲ εἰπὲ τῶν ὑψηλῶν δογμάτων μίαν πρόφασιν ἑτέραν, πλὴν ἧς ἡμεῖς εἰρήκαμεν· αὕτη δὲ ἦν τὸ βούλεσθαι αὐτὸν τὴν οἰκείαν εὐγένειαν ἡμῖν ἐνδείκνυσθαι· ἀλλ' οὐκ ἂν ἔχοις ἑτέραν εἰπεῖν. Ὁ μὲν γὰρ μέγας δύναιτ' ἂν καὶ μικρόν τι περὶ ἑαυτοῦ λέγειν, καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν ἔγκλημα· ἐπιεικείας γὰρ τοῦτό ἐστιν· ὁ δὲ μικρὸς, εἰ μέγα τι περὶ ἑαυτοῦ εἴποι ποτὲ, οὐ διαφεύξεται κατηγορίαν· ἀλαζονεία γάρ ἐστι. Διὰ τοῦτο τὸν μὲν ὑψηλὸν ἅπαντες ἐπαινοῦμεν, ὅταν περὶ ἑαυτοῦ ταπεινὰ λέγῃ· τὸν δὲ ταπεινὸν οὐδεὶς ἐπαινέσεται, εἴ ποτέ τι μέγα περὶ ἑαυτοῦ εἴποι. Ὥστε εἰ πολλῷ καταδεέστερος ἦν τοῦ Πατρὸς ὁ Υἱὸς, ὡς ὑμεῖς φατε, οὐκ ἔδει ῥήματα αὐτὸν λέγειν, δι' ὧν ἐδείκνυ τῷ γεγεννηκότι ἴσον ὄντα ἑαυτόν· ἀλαζονεία γὰρ τοῦτο ἦν· τὸ μέντοι ἴσον ὄντα τοῦ γεγεννηκότος λέγειν τινὰ ταπεινὰ καὶ εὐτελῆ, οὐδεμία μέμψις, οὐδὲ αἰτία· ἔπαινος γὰρ τοῦτό ἐστι καὶ θαῦμα μέγιστον.
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If I testify about myself, my testimony is not true. For he spoke thus with reference to their suspicion; for he did not wish to show that it is not true, but, as you think and suspect, he says, not wishing to accept him speaking about himself. 5. And there are many other causes to be found. For the humility of the words we could give many pretexts; but you, give one other pretext for the lofty doctrines, besides the one we have given; and this was his desire to show us his own nobility; but you would not be able to give another. For the great man could also say something small about himself, and it is not a fault; for this is of moderation; but the small man, if he ever said something great about himself, will not escape accusation; for it is boastfulness. Therefore we all praise the lofty one when he speaks humbly about himself; but no one will praise the lowly one if he ever says something great about himself. So if the Son were much inferior to the Father, as you say, he ought not to have spoken words through which he showed himself equal to the one who begot him; for this would have been boastfulness; but for one who is equal to the one who begot him to say humble and lowly things is no blame, nor cause for reproach; for this is praise and the greatest wonder.
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Καὶ ἵνα σαφέστερα γένηται τὰ εἰρημένα, καὶ μάθητε πάντες ὑμεῖς, ὅτι οὐ καταστοχαζόμεθα τῶν θείων Γραφῶν, φέρε δὴ τῶν εἰρημένων αἰτιῶν τούτων τὴν πρώτην μεταχειρισώμεθα νῦν, καὶ δείξωμεν ποῦ διὰ τὴν τῆς σαρκὸς περιβολὴν φανερῶς καταδεέστερα τῆς οὐσίας τῆς ἑαυτοῦ ῥήματα φθέγγεται· καὶ, εἰ δοκεῖ, τὴν εὐχὴν αὐτὴν εἰς μέσον ἀγάγωμεν, ἣν ηὔξατο τῷ Πατρί. Ἀλλὰ προσέχετε μετὰ ἀκριβείας ἡμῖν· μικρὸν γὰρ ἄνωθεν ὑμῖν τὸ πᾶν διηγήσασθαι βούλομαι. Δεῖπνον ἐγένετό ποτε κατὰ τὴν ἱερὰν νύκτα ἐκείνην, καθ' ἣν παραδίδοσθαι ἔμελλεν· ἱερὰν γὰρ αὐτὴν ἐγὼ καλῶ, ἐπειδὴ τὰ μυρία ἀγαθὰ, ἃ κατὰ τὴν οἰκουμένην ἐγένετο, τὴν ἀρχὴν ἐκεῖθεν ἐλάμβανε. Τότε τοίνυν καὶ ὁ προδότης μετὰ τῶν ἕνδεκα ἀνέκειτο μαθητῶν, καὶ δειπνούντων αὐτῶν, φησὶν ὁ Χριστὸς, Εἷς ἐξ ὑμῶν παραδώσει με. Τούτων μνημονεύετέ μοι τῶν ῥημάτων, ἵνα ὅταν ἐπὶ τὴν εὐχὴν ἔλθωμεν, ἴδωμεν τίνος ἕνεκεν οὕτως εὔχεται. Καὶ σκόπει μοι κηδεμονίαν Δεσπότου· οὐκ εἶπεν, ὅτι ὁ Ἰούδας παραδώσει με, ὥστε μὴ τῇ περιφανεία τῶν ἐλέγχων ἀναισχυντότερον αὐτὸν ἐργάσασθαι· ὡς δὲ ἐκεῖνος ὑπὸ τοῦ συνειδότος κεντούμενός φησι, Μή τι ἐγώ εἰμι, Κύριε; λέγει αὐτῷ, Σὺ εἶπας· καὶ οὐδὲ τότε αὐτοῦ κατηγορῆσαι ἠνέσχετο, ἀλλ' αὐτὸν ἑαυτοῦ κατέστησεν ἔλεγχον· ἀλλ' ὅμως οὐδὲ οὕτως ἐγένετο βελτίων, ἀλλὰ λαβὼν τὸ ψωμίον ἐξῆλθεν. Ἐπειδὴ τοίνυν ἐξῆλθε, λαβὼν ὁ Ἰησοῦς τοὺς μαθητάς φησι· Πάντες ὑμεῖς σκανδαλισθήσεσθε ἐν ἐμοί·
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And to make what has been said clearer, and so that you all may learn that we are not guessing at the divine Scriptures, let us now take up the first of these stated reasons and show where, on account of the envelopment of the flesh, he plainly utters words more inferior than his own essence. And, if you please, let us bring forward the prayer itself which he prayed to the Father. But pay close attention to me; for I wish to relate the whole matter to you from a little earlier. A supper once took place on that holy night on which he was about to be betrayed; for I call it holy, since the countless goods that came about throughout the world took their beginning from there. At that time, then, the traitor was also reclining with the eleven disciples, and as they were dining, Christ says, "One of you will betray me." Remember these words for me, so that when we come to the prayer, we may see for what reason he prays in this way. And observe the Master's solicitude: he did not say, "Judas will betray me," so as not to make him more shameless by the manifestness of the rebuke. But when that one, goaded by his conscience, says, "I am not the one, am I, Lord?" he says to him, "You have said it." And even then he did not endure to accuse him, but made him his own accuser. Yet not even thus did he become better, but taking the morsel, he went out. Since, then, he went out, Jesus, taking the disciples, says, "All of you will be scandalized by me.
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τοῦ Πέτρου δὲ ἀντιλέγοντος καὶ λέγοντος, Κἂν πάντες σκανδαλισθήσωνται, ἀλλ' ἐγὼ οὐδέποτε σκανδαλισθήσομαι, πάλιν ὁ Ἰησοῦς φησιν, Ἀμὴν λέγω σοι, πρὶν ἀλέκτορα φωνῆσαι, τρὶς ἀπαρνήσῃ με. Ὡς δὲ πάλιν ἀντέλεγεν, εἴασεν αὐτὸν λοιπόν. Οὐ πείθῃ, φησὶ, διὰ τῶν ῥημάτων, ἀλλ' ἀντιλέγεις· πεισθήσῃ διὰ τῶν πραγμάτων αὐτῶν, ὅτι Δεσπότῃ ἀντιλέγειν οὐ χρή. Καὶ τούτων μοι μέμνησθε τῶν ῥημάτων πάλιν· χρήσιμος γὰρ αὐτῶν ἡμῖν ἡ μνήμη τὴν εὐχὴν ἐξετάζουσιν ἔσται. Εἶπε τὸν προδότην, προεῖπε τὴν πάντων φυγὴν, καὶ τὸν αὐτοῦ θάνατον· Πατάξω, φησὶ, τὸν ποιμένα, καὶ διασκορπισθήσεται τὰ πρόβατα· προεῖπε τὸν μέλλοντα αὐτὸν ἀρνήσασθαι, καὶ πότε καὶ ποσάκις, καὶ μετὰ ἀκριβείας ἅπαντα. Καὶ μετὰ ταῦτα πάντα ἱκανὴν αὐτοῦ τῆς προγνώσεως τῶν μελλόντων ἀπόδειξιν δοὺς, ἐλθὼν ἐπί τι χωρίον εὔχεται· καὶ ἐκεῖνοι μὲν λέγουσιν, ὅτι τῆς θεότητός ἐστιν ἡ εὐχὴ, ἡμεῖς δὲ λέγομεν, ὅτι τῆς οἰκονομίας. Δικάσατε τοίνυν, καὶ πρὸς αὐτῆς τῆς τοῦ Μονογενοῦς δόξης μηδενὶ κεχαρισμένην τὴν ψῆφον ἐνέγκητε. Εἰ γὰρ καὶ ἐν φίλοις δικάζομαι νῦν, ἀλλ' ἀντιβολῶ καὶ δέομαι, ἀδέκαστον γενέσθαι τὴν κρίσιν, καὶ μήτε πρὸς ἐμὴν χάριν, μήτε πρὸς ἐκείνων ἀπέχθειαν. Μάλιστα μὲν γὰρ καὶ αὐτόθεν δῆλον, ὅτι οὐκ ἔστι τῆς θεότητος ἡ εὐχή· Θεὸς γὰρ οὐκ εὔχεται, Θεοῦ γὰρ τὸ προσκυνεῖσθαί ἐστι· Θεοῦ τὸ εὐχὴν δέχεσθαι, οὐ τὸ εὐχὴν ἀναφέρειν· ἀλλ' ὅμως ἐπειδὴ ἀναισχυντοῦσιν, ἀπ' αὐτῶν τῶν ῥημάτων τῆς εὐχῆς ὑμῖν ποιῆσαι πειράσομαι φανερὸν, ὅτι τὸ ὅλον τῆς οἰκονομίας ἐστὶ, καὶ τῆς κατὰ τὴν σάρκα ἀσθενείας.
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But when Peter contradicted and said, "Even if all are scandalized, I will never be scandalized," Jesus again says, "Truly I tell you, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times." And when he again contradicted, he left him alone from then on. "You are not persuaded," he says, "by words, but you contradict; you will be persuaded by the deeds themselves, that it is not right to contradict the Master." And remember these words again, for their memory will be useful to us when we examine the prayer. He named the traitor, foretold the flight of all, and his own death: "I will strike the shepherd," he says, "and the sheep will be scattered." He foretold that he would deny him, and when and how many times, and everything with precision. And after giving all this as sufficient proof of his foreknowledge of future events, he comes to a certain place and prays. And they say that the prayer belongs to the divinity, but we say that it belongs to the economy. Judge, then, and bring a verdict that is not gratifying to anyone, for the sake of the glory of the Only-begotten himself. For even if I am now judging among friends, I beg and implore that the judgment be impartial, and that it be neither for my favor nor for their enmity. For it is especially clear even from the outset that the prayer is not of the divinity; for God does not pray, for it is God's to be worshipped, God's to receive prayer, not to offer prayer. But nevertheless, since they are shameless, I will try to make it clear to you from the very words of the prayer that the whole thing belongs to the economy and to the weakness of the flesh.
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Ὅταν γὰρ φθέγγηταί τι ταπεινὸν ὁ Χριστὸς, οὕτω φθέγγεται ταπεινὸν καὶ εὐτελὲς, ὡς τὴν ὑπερβολὴν τῆς ταπεινότητος τῶν λεγομένων καὶ τοὺς σφόδρα φιλονεικοῦντας δυνηθῆναι πεῖσαι, ὅτι πολὺ τῆς ἀποῤῥήτου καὶ ἀφράστου οὐσίας ἐκείνης ἀποδεῖ τὰ ῥήματα. Ἴωμεν τοίνυν ἐπ' αὐτὰ τὰ ῥήματα τῆς εὐχῆς· Πάτερ, εἰ δυνατὸν, παρελθέτω ἀπ' ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο· πλὴν οὐχ ὡς ἐγὼ θέλω, ἀλλ' ὡς σύ. Ἐρωτήσωμεν τοίνυν αὐτοὺς ἐνταῦθα· ἀγνοεῖ, εἴτε δυνατὸν, εἴτε οὐ δυνατὸν, ὁ πρὸ μικροῦ λέγων ἐν τῷ δείπνῳ, Εἷς ἐξ ὑμῶν παραδώσει με; ὁ πρὸ μικροῦ λέγων, Γέγραπται, Πατάξω τὸν ποιμένα, καὶ διασκορπισθήσεται τὰ πρόβατα· καὶ, ὅτι Πάντες ὑμεῖς σκανδαλισθήσεσθε ἐν ἐμοί· ὁ τῷ Πέτρῳ εἰπὼν, ὅτι Ἀρνήσῃ με, καὶ, Ἀρνήσῃ με τρίς· οὗτος ἀγνοεῖ νῦν, εἰπέ μοι; Καὶ τίς ἂν τοῦτο εἴποι καὶ τῶν ὁπωσοῦν καθεστηκότων; Καὶ γὰρ ὅταν μὲν ᾖ τὸ ἀγνοούμενον μηδενὶ δῆλον μήτε προφητῶν, μήτε ἀγγέλων, μήτε ἀρχαγγέλων, ἴσως παρέξει τινὰ τοῖς φιλονεικοῦσι λαβήν· ὅταν μέντοι τὸ ἀγνοούμενον οὕτως ᾖ φανερὸν καὶ γνώριμον ἅπασιν, ὡς καὶ ἀνθρώπους αὐτὸ εἰδέναι μετὰ ἀκριβείας, ποία ἀπολογία καὶ ποία συγγνώμη τοῖς λέγουσιν, ὅτι αὐτὸς ἀγνοῶν ταῦτα ἔλεγε; Τοῦτον τοίνυν τὸν περὶ οὗ λέγω λόγον καὶ δοῦλοι αὐτοῦ φαίνονται μετὰ ἀκριβείας εἰδότες, καὶ ὅτι ἀποθανεῖν, καὶ ὅτι διὰ σταυροῦ τοῦτο παθεῖν αὐτὸν ἔδει, καὶ πρὸ τοσούτων ἐτῶν ἀμφότερα ταῦτα δηλῶν ὁ Δαυῒδ ἔλεγεν ἐκ προσώπου τοῦ Χριστοῦ· Ὤρυξαν χεῖράς μου καὶ πόδας μου·
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For when Christ says something lowly, he speaks in such a low and humble manner that the excess of humility in his words can persuade even those who are very contentious that the utterances fall far short of that ineffable and indescribable essence. Let us then go to the very words of the prayer: "Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me; yet not as I wish, but as you do." Let us then ask them here: Does he not know whether it is possible or not—he who a little while ago said at the supper, "One of you will betray me"; he who a little while ago said, "It is written, 'I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered,'" and that "All of you will be scandalized in me"; he who said to Peter, "You will deny me," and "You will deny me three times"—does this man now not know, tell me? And who would say this, even among those who are at all sensible? For when the unknown matter is not clear to anyone—neither to prophets, nor angels, nor archangels—it might perhaps provide some handle to the contentious; but when the unknown matter is so evident and well-known to all that even men know it with precision, what defense and what pardon is there for those who say that he spoke these things in ignorance? Therefore, this matter of which I speak is seen to be known with precision even by his own servants, both that he had to die and that he had to suffer this by the cross; and David, declaring both these things so many years before, said in the person of Christ: "They dug through my hands and my feet.
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καὶ τὸ μέλλον ὡς γεγενημένον ἀπήγγειλε, δεικνὺς ὅτι, καθάπερ τὰ συμβάντα ἀμήχανον μὴ γενέσθαι, οὕτω καὶ τοῦτο ἀμήχανον μὴ γεγενῆσθαι. Πάλιν ὁ Ἡσαΐας αὐτὸ τοῦτο προαναφωνῶν ἔλεγεν· Ὡς πρόβατον ἐπὶ σφαγὴν ἤχθη, καὶ ὡς ἀμνὸς ἐναντίον τοῦ κείροντος αὐτὸν ἄφωνος. Τοῦτον πάλιν ὁ Ἰωάννης τὸν ἀμνὸν ἰδὼν ἔλεγεν, Ἴδε ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ ὁ αἴρων τὴν ἁμαρτίαν τοῦ κόσμου, ἐκεῖνος ὁ προῤῥηθεὶς, φησί. Καὶ ὅρα, οὐχ ἁπλῶς εἴρηται ὁ ἀμνὸς, ἀλλὰ πρόσκειται τοῦ Θεοῦ. Ἐπειδὴ γὰρ καὶ ἕτερος ἦν ἀμνὸς ὁ Ἰουδαϊκὸς, δηλῶν ὅτι οὗτος τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐστι, διὰ τοῦτο οὕτως εἶπεν. Ἐκεῖνος ὑπὲρ τοῦ ἔθνους προσεφέρετο μόνον, οὗτος ὑπὲρ τῆς οἰκουμένης προσηνέχθη πάσης· κἀκείνου μὲν τὸ αἷμα πληγὴν σωματικὴν ἐκώλυσεν ἐξ Ἰουδαίων μόνον, τούτου δὲ τὸ αἷμα τῆς οἰκουμένης ἁπάσης κοινὸς γέγονε καθαρμός. Καὶ τοῦτο δὲ τὸ αἷμα τὸ τοῦ Ἰουδαϊκοῦ ἀμνοῦ ἴσχυσεν ὅπερ ἴσχυσεν, οὐ παρὰ τὴν οἰκείαν φύσιν, ἀλλ' ἐπειδὴ τούτου τύπος ἦν, τὴν δύναμιν ἔσχεν ἐκείνην. ςʹ. Ποῦ τοίνυν εἰσὶν οἱ λέγοντες, ὅτι καὶ αὐτὸς Υἱὸς λέγεται, καὶ ἡμεῖς υἱοὶ, καὶ ἀπὸ τῆς κατὰ τὴν προσηγορίαν κοινωνίας εἰς εὐτέλειαν αὐτὸν ἄγειν ἡμετέραν ἐπιχειροῦντες; Ἰδοὺ γὰρ καὶ ἀμνὸς, καὶ ἀμνὸς, καὶ ἓν μὲν τὸ ὄνομα, τὸ δὲ μέσον τῆς φύσεως ἑκατέρας ἄπειρον. Ὥσπερ οὖν ἀκούων ἐνταῦθα προσηγορίας κοινωνίαν, οὐδὲν ἴσον φαντάζῃ, οὕτω δὴ καὶ ἐνταῦθα ἀκούων υἱὸν καὶ υἱὸν, μὴ πρὸς τὴν σὴν εὐτέλειαν κάταγε τὸν Μονογενῆ. Ἀλλὰ τί χρὴ λέγειν περὶ τῶν δήλων; Εἰ γὰρ τῆς Θεότητός ἐστιν ἡ εὐχὴ, εὑρεθήσεται καὶ αὐτὸς ἑαυτῷ περιπίπτων καὶ ἐναντιολογῶν καὶ μαχόμενος.
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and he announced the future as if it had already happened, showing that just as the events that occurred could not fail to happen, so too this could not fail to have happened. Again, Isaiah, foretelling this very thing, said: "He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and like a lamb before its shearer, speechless." John, seeing this lamb, said, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world," that one who was foretold, he says. And note, it is not simply said "the lamb," but "of God" is added. For since there was also another lamb, the Jewish one, indicating that this one is of God, he spoke thus. That one was offered only for the nation; this one was offered for the whole world. And the blood of that one prevented a physical plague only among the Jews, but the blood of this one has become a common purification for the whole world. And this blood of the Jewish lamb had the effect it had, not because of its own nature, but because it was a type of this one, it had that power. 6. Where then are those who say that he himself is called Son, and we are sons, and who, from the commonality of the name, attempt to bring him down to our lowliness? For behold, lamb and lamb, and the name is one, but the difference in nature between each is infinite. Just as, then, when you hear here a commonality of name, you imagine nothing equal, so too when you hear "son" and "son," do not bring the Only-begotten down to your lowliness. But what need is there to speak of what is clear? For if the prayer belongs to the Godhead, he will be found to be contradicting himself and speaking against himself and fighting with himself.
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Οὗτος γὰρ ὁ ἐνταῦθα εἰπὼν, Πάτερ, εἰ δυνατὸν, παρελθέτω ἀπ' ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο, καὶ ὀκνῶν καὶ ἀναδυόμενος πρὸς τὸ πάθος, ἀλλαχοῦ εἰπὼν, ὅτι δεῖ τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου παραδοθῆναι καὶ μαστιγωθῆναι, ἐπειδὴ Πέτρου ἤκουσε λέγοντος, Ἵλεώς σοι, οὐ μὴ ἔσται σοι τοῦτο, οὕτω σφόδρα ἐπετίμησεν, ὡς εἰπεῖν, Ὕπαγε ὀπίσω μου, Σατανᾶ· σκάνδαλόν μου εἶ, ὅτι οὐ φρονεῖς τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἀλλὰ τὰ τῶν ἀνθρώπων. Καίτοι γε πρὸ βραχέος ἦν αὐτὸν ἐπαινέσας καὶ μακαρίσας, ἀλλ' ὅμως Σατανᾶν αὐτὸν ἐκάλεσεν, οὐχὶ τὸν Ἀπόστολον ὑβρίσαι βουλόμενος, ἀλλὰ διὰ τῆς ὕβρεως δεῖξαι θέλων, ὡς οὐ κατὰ γνώμην αὐτῷ τὸ εἰρημένον ἦν, ἀλλ' οὕτως ἀλλότριον, ὡς τὸν ταῦτα εἰρηκότα, καίτοι Πέτρον ὄντα, μὴ ὀκνῆσαι Σατανᾶν ὀνομάσαι. Πάλιν ἀλλαχοῦ φησιν· Ἐπιθυμίᾳ ἐπεθύμησα τὸ Πάσχα τοῦτο φαγεῖν μεθ' ὑμῶν. Τίνος οὖν ἕνεκεν τὸ Πάσχα τοῦτό φησι; καίτοι καὶ ἄλλοτε τὴν ἑορτὴν ταύτην ἐπετέλεσε μετ' αὐτῶν· τίνος οὖν ἕνεκεν; Ἐπειδὴ μετ' αὐτὸ ὁ σταυρὸς ἦν. Καὶ πάλιν, Πάτερ, δόξασόν σου τὸν Υἱὸν, ἵνα καὶ ὁ Υἱός σου δοξάσῃ σε. Καὶ πολλαχοῦ καὶ προλέγοντα τὸ πάθος, καὶ ἐπιθυμοῦντα γενέσθαι
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For this is the one who said here, "Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me," hesitating and shrinking from the passion, but elsewhere said that the Son of Man must be betrayed and scourged. When he heard Peter saying, "God forbid, this shall not happen to you," he rebuked him so severely as to say, "Get behind me, Satan; you are a stumbling block to me, because you do not think the things of God, but the things of men." And yet shortly before he had praised and blessed him, but nevertheless he called him Satan, not wishing to insult the Apostle, but wanting to show through the insult that what was said was not according to his own mind, but so alien that he did not hesitate to call the one who said it, even though he was Peter, Satan. Again elsewhere he says, "I earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you." Why then does he say "this Passover"? For he had also celebrated this feast with them at other times. Why then? Because after it came the cross. And again, "Father, glorify your Son, so that your Son may glorify you." And in many places he both foretells the passion and desires it to happen.
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αὐτὸ εὑρίσκομεν, καὶ διὰ τοῦτο παραγενόμενον. Πῶς οὖν ἐνταῦθά φησιν, Εἰ δυνατόν; Τῆς ἀνθρωπίνης φύσεως τὴν ἀσθένειαν ἡμῖν ἐνδείκνυται, οὐχ αἱρουμένης ἁπλῶς ἀποῤῥαγῆναι τῆς παρούσης ζωῆς, ἀλλ' ἀναδυομένης καὶ ὀκνούσης διὰ τὴν ἐξ ἀρχῆς ἐντεθεῖσαν αὐτῇ φιλίαν παρὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ πρὸς τὸν παρόντα βίον. Εἰ γὰρ τοσαῦτα καὶ τηλικαῦτα εἰπόντος αὐτοῦ, ἐτόλμησαν εἰπεῖν τινες, ὅτι σάρκα οὐκ ἀνέλαβεν, εἰ μηδὲν τούτων εἴρητο, τί οὐκ ἂν εἶπον; Διὰ τοῦτο προλέγει μὲν ὡς Θεὸς ἐκεῖ, καὶ ἐπιθυμεῖ γενέσθαι τὸ πάθος· φεύγει δὲ καὶ παραιτεῖται ἐνταῦθα, ὡς ἄνθρωπος. Ὅτι γὰρ ἑκὼν ἐπὶ τὸ πάθος ἤρχετο, φησὶν, Ἐξουσίαν ἔχω θεῖναι τὴν ψυχήν μου, καὶ ἐξουσίαν ἔχω λαβεῖν αὐτήν. Οὐδεὶς αὐτὴν αἴρει ἀπ' ἐμοῦ, ἐγὼ ἀπ' ἐμαυτοῦ τίθημι αὐτήν. Πῶς οὖν λέγει, Οὐχ ὡς ἐγὼ θέλω, ἀλλ' ὡς σύ; Καὶ τί θαυμάζεις, εἰ πρὸ τοῦ σταυροῦ τοσαύτην ἐποίησε σπουδὴν, πιστώσασθαι τῆς σαρκὸς τὴν ἀλήθειαν, ὅπου γε καὶ μετὰ τὴν ἀνάστασιν τὸν μαθητὴν ἰδὼν ἀπιστοῦντα οὐ παρῃτήσατο αὐτῷ καὶ τραύματα καὶ τύπους ἥλων ἐπιδεῖξαι, καὶ χειρὸς ἁφῇ τὰς ὠτειλὰς ὑποβαλεῖν, καὶ εἰπεῖν, Ἐρεύνησον καὶ ἴδε ὅτι πνεῦμα σάρκα καὶ ὀστέα οὐκ ἔχει; Διὰ τοῦτο οὐδὲ ἐξ ἀρχῆς τελείας ἡλικίας τὸν ἄνθρωπον ἀνέλαβεν, ἀλλ' ἠνέσχετο καὶ συλληφθῆναι, καὶ τεχθῆναι, καὶ γαλακτοτροφηθῆναι, καὶ χρόνον τοσοῦτον ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς διατρίψαι, ἵνα καὶ τῷ μήκει τοῦ χρόνου, καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις ἅπασιν αὐτὸ τοῦτο πιστώσηται. Ἐπειδὴ γὰρ ἄγγελοι πολλάκις ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ἐφάνησαν ἐν ἀνθρώπου τύπῳ, καὶ αὐτὸς δὲ ὁ Θεὸς, τὸ δὲ φαινόμενον οὐκ ἦν σαρκὸς ἀλήθεια, ἀλλὰ συγκατάβασις·
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We find this very thing, and that he came for this reason. How then does he say here, "If it is possible?" He reveals to us the weakness of human nature, which does not simply choose to be torn away from the present life, but shrinks back and hesitates because of the love for the present life implanted in it from the beginning by God. For if, when he had said so many and such great things, some dared to say that he did not take on flesh, what would they not have said if none of these things had been spoken? For this reason he foretells as God there, and desires the passion to take place; but here he flees and declines it as a man. For that he went to the passion willingly, he says, "I have authority to lay down my soul, and I have authority to take it up. No one takes it from me; I lay it down of my own accord." How then does he say, "Not as I wish, but as you?" And why are you surprised, if before the cross he made such great effort to confirm the truth of the flesh, when even after the resurrection, seeing the disciple disbelieving, he did not refuse to show him both wounds and nail marks, and to submit the scars to the touch of a hand, and to say, "Examine and see that a spirit has no flesh and bones?" For this reason he did not take on the man from a perfect age from the beginning, but allowed himself to be conceived, born, nursed with milk, and to spend so much time on earth, so that by the length of time and by all other things he might confirm this very thing. For since angels have often appeared on earth in the form of a man, and God himself has done so, but what appeared was not the truth of flesh, but a condescension;
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ἵνα μὴ νομίσῃς καὶ ταύτην τὴν παρουσίαν τοιαύτην εἶναι, οἷαι ἐκεῖναι ἐγένοντο, ἀλλὰ πιστωθῇς ἀληθῶς, ὅτι σὰρξ ἦν ἀληθινὴ, καὶ συνελήφθη, καὶ ἐτέχθη, καὶ ἐτράφη, καὶ ἐπὶ φάτνης ἐτέθη, οὐκ ἐν οἰκίσκῳ τινὶ, ἀλλ' ἐν καταλύματι, πλήθους ἀπείρου παρόντος, ἵνα δημοσιεύηται αὐτοῦ ἡ γέννησις. Διὰ τοῦτο καὶ σπάργανα, καὶ προφητεῖαι ἄνωθεν αὐτὸ τοῦτο λέγουσαι, οὐχ ὅτι ἄνθρωπος ἔσται μόνον, ἀλλ' ὅτι καὶ συλληφθήσεται, καὶ τεχθήσεται, καὶ τῷ τῶν παιδίων νόμῳ τραφήσεται. Καὶ τοῦτο ὁ Ἡσαΐας βοᾷ λέγων· Ἰδοὺ ἡ παρθένος ἐν γαστρὶ ἕξει, καὶ τέξεται υἱὸν, καὶ καλέσουσι τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Ἐμμανουήλ· βούτυρον καὶ μέλι φάγεται· καὶ πάλιν, Παιδίον ἐγεννήθη ἡμῖν, υἱὸς καὶ ἐδόθη ἡμῖν. Ὁρᾷς πῶς καὶ τὴν προτέραν αὐτοῦ ἡλικίαν προανεφώνησαν; Ἐρώτησον τοίνυν τὸν αἱρετικόν· Θεὸς δειλιᾷ, καὶ ἀναδύεται, καὶ ὀκνεῖ, καὶ λυπεῖται; κἂν εἴπῃ, ὅτι ναὶ, ἀπόστηθι λοιπὸν, καὶ στῆσον αὐτὸν κάτω μετὰ τοῦ διαβόλου, μᾶλλον δὲ καὶ ἐκείνου κατώτερον· οὐδὲ γὰρ ἐκεῖνος τολμήσει τοῦτο εἰπεῖν· ἂν δὲ εἴπῃ, ὅτι οὐδὲν τούτων ἄξιον Θεοῦ, εἰπὲ, οὐκοῦν οὐδὲ εὔχεται Θεός· χωρὶς γὰρ τούτων καὶ ἕτερον ἄτοπον ἔσται, ἂν τοῦ Θεοῦ τὰ ῥήματα ᾖ. Οὔτε γὰρ ἀγωνίαν μόνον ἐμφαίνει τὰ ῥήματα, ἀλλὰ καὶ δύο θελήματα, ἓν μὲν Υἱοῦ, ἓν δὲ Πατρὸς, ἐναντία ἀλλήλοις· τὸ γὰρ εἰπεῖν, Οὐχ ὡς ἐγὼ θέλω, ἀλλ' ὡς σὺ, τοῦτό ἐστιν ἐμφαίνοντος. Τοῦτο δὲ οὐδὲ ἐκεῖνοί ποτε συνεχώρησαν, ἀλλ' ἡμῶν ἀεὶ λεγόντων τὸ, Ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν, ἐπὶ τῆς δυνάμεως, ἐκεῖνοι ἐπὶ τῆς θελή σεως τοῦτο εἰρῆσθαί φασι, λέγοντες Πατρὸς καὶ Υἱοῦ μίαν εἶναι βούλησιν.
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so that you may not think that this presence is of the same kind as those others were, but may be truly convinced that it was real flesh, and that he was conceived, and born, and nourished, and placed in a manger, not in some little house, but in a lodging, with an infinite multitude present, so that his birth might be made public. For this reason also there are swaddling clothes, and prophecies from above saying precisely this, not only that he will be a man, but that he will be conceived, and born, and nourished according to the law of children. And this Isaiah proclaims, saying: Behold, the virgin will conceive, and will bear a son, and they will call his name Emmanuel; he will eat butter and honey; and again, A child has been born to us, a son has been given to us. Do you see how they also foretold his earlier age? Ask the heretic then: Does God feel fear, and shrink back, and hesitate, and grieve? And if he says yes, then stand apart from him and place him below the devil, or rather even lower than that; for not even the devil will dare to say this. But if he says that none of these things is worthy of God, say, then neither does God pray; for apart from these things there will be another absurdity, if these are the words of God. For the words indicate not only anxiety, but also two wills, one of the Son and one of the Father, opposed to each other; for to say, "Not as I wish, but as you," is the utterance of one showing this. But not even those ever conceded this, but while we always say, "I and the Father are one," with reference to power, they claim that this is said with reference to will, saying that the Father and the Son have one will.
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Εἰ τοίνυν Πατρὸς καὶ Υἱοῦ μία βούλησίς ἐστι, πῶς φησιν ἐνταῦθα, Πλὴν οὐχ ὡς ἐγὼ θέλω, ἀλλ' ὡς σύ; Ἂν μὲν γὰρ ἐπὶ τῆς θεότητος τὸ εἰρημένον ᾖ τοῦτο, ἐναντιολογία τις γίνεται, καὶ πολλὰ ἄτοπα ἐκ τούτου τίκτεται· ἂν δὲ ἐπὶ τῆς σαρκὸς, ἔχει λόγον τὰ εἰρημένα, καὶ οὐδὲν γένοιτ' ἂν ἔγκλημα. Οὐ γὰρ τὸ μὴ θέλειν ἀποθανεῖν τὴν σάρκα, ἐστὶ κατάγνωσις· φύσεως γάρ ἐστι τοῦτο· αὐτὸς δὲ τὰ τῆς φύσεως ἅπαντα χωρὶς ἁμαρτίας ἐπιδείκνυται, καὶ μετὰ πολλῆς τῆς περιουσίας, ὥστε τὰ τῶν αἱρετικῶν ἐμφράξαι στόματα. Ὅταν οὖν λέγῃ, Εἰ δυνατὸν, παρελθέτω ἀπ' ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο, καὶ, Οὐχ ὡς ἐγὼ θέλω, ἀλλ' ὡς σὺ, οὐδὲν ἕτερον δείκνυσιν, ἀλλ' ἢ ὅτι σάρκα ἀληθῶς περιβέβληται φοβουμένην θάνατον· τὸ γὰρ φοβεῖσθαι θάνατον καὶ ἀναδύεσθαι καὶ ἀγωνιᾷν ἐκείνης ἐστι. Νῦν μὲν οὖν ἐρήμην αὐτὴν ἀφίησι, καὶ γυμνὴν τῆς οἰκείας ἐνεργείας, ἵνα αὐτῆς δείξας τὴν ἀσθένειαν, πιστώσηται αὐτῆς καὶ τὴν φύσιν· νῦν δὲ αὐτὴν ἀποκρύπτει, ἵνα μάθῃς ὅτι οὐ ψιλὸς ἄνθρωπος ἦν. Ὥσπερ γὰρ, εἰ διὰ παντὸς τὰ ἀνθρώπινα ἐνεδείκνυτο, τοῦτο ἂν ἐνομίσθη· οὕτως, εἰ διὰ παντὸς τὰ τῆς θεότητος ἐπετέλει, ἠπιστήθη ἂν ὁ τῆς οἰκονομίας λόγος. Διὰ τοῦτο ποικίλλει, καὶ ἀναμίγνυσι καὶ τὰ ῥήματα καὶ τὰ πράγματα, ἵνα μήτε τῇ Παύλου τοῦ Σαμοσατέως, μήτε τῇ Μαρκίωνος καὶ Μανιχαίου νόσῳ καὶ μανίᾳ παράσχῃ πρόφασιν· διὰ τοῦτο καὶ προλέγει τὸ ἐσόμενον ὡς Θεὸς, καὶ ἀναδύεται πάλιν ὡς ἄνθρωπος.
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If, then, there is one will of Father and Son, how does he say here, "Yet not as I will, but as you"? For if this were said concerning the divinity, a contradiction would arise, and many absurdities would be born from it; but if concerning the flesh, what is said makes sense, and no charge would arise. For the flesh's not wishing to die is not a condemnation; this is a matter of nature; and he displays all the things of nature without sin, and with great abundance, so as to stop the mouths of the heretics. Therefore, when he says, "If possible, let this cup pass from me," and, "Not as I will, but as you," he shows nothing else but that he is truly clothed with flesh that fears death; for fearing death and shrinking back and being distressed belong to that flesh. Now, then, he leaves it deserted and bare of its own activity, so that by showing its weakness he may confirm its nature; now, then, he conceals it, so that you may learn that he was not a mere man. For just as, if he had displayed human things throughout, this would have been supposed; so, if he had performed the things of divinity throughout, the plan of the economy would have been disbelieved. For this reason he varies and mixes both words and deeds, so as to provide no pretext for the disease and madness of Paul of Samosata, nor for that of Marcion and Manichaeus; for this reason he both foretells what will happen as God, and shrinks back again as a man.
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ζʹ. Ἐβουλόμην καὶ ταῖς λοιπαῖς αἰτίαις ἐπεξελθεῖν, καὶ δεῖξαι ἐπ' αὐτῶν τῶν πραγμάτων, ὅτι ὥσπερ ἐνταῦθα τὴν ἀσθένειαν τῆς σαρκὸς ἐλέγχων ηὔξατο, οὕτω καὶ ἀλλαχοῦ πάλιν τὴν ἀσθένειαν τῶν ἀκουόντων διορθούμενος· οὐ γὰρ δὴ πάντα τὰ ταπεινῶς εἰρημένα διὰ τὴν τῆς σαρκὸς περιβολὴν εἰρῆσθαι χρὴ νομίζειν μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ διὰ τὰς ἄλλας ἃς εἶπον αἰτίας· ἵνα δὲ μὴ τῶν εἰρημένων ἐπικλύσω τὸ πλῆθος τῇ περιουσίᾳ τῶν ῥηθήσεσθαι μελλόντων, ἐνταῦθα τὸν πρὸς ἐκείνους στήσας λόγον, καὶ τὰ λειπόμενα εἰς ἑτέραν ἀναβαλλόμενος ἡμέραν, πρὸς παραίνεσιν εὐχῆς τρέψομαι πάλιν. Εἰ γὰρ καὶ πολλάκις ἡμῖν περὶ τῆς ὑποθέσεως ταύτης εἴρηται, ἀλλὰ καὶ νῦν ἀναγκαῖον εἰπεῖν. Καὶ γὰρ καὶ τῶν ἱματίων τὰ μὲν ἅπαξ βαφέντα ἐξίτηλον ἔχει τὴν βαφὴν, ἃ δὲ πολλάκις καὶ συνεχῶς καθέντες ἀνασπῶσιν οἱ δευσοποιοὶ, ἀκίνητον διατηρεῖ τὸ τοῦ χρώματος ἄνθος· τοῦτο δὴ καὶ ἐπὶ τῶν ψυχῶν συμβαίνει τῶν ἡμετέρων. Ὅταν γὰρ πολλάκις τῶν αὐτῶν ἀκούσωμεν ῥημάτων, καθάπερ τινὰ βαφὴν τὴν διδασκαλίαν ὑποδεξάμενοι, οὐκ ἂν ῥᾳδίως αὐτὴν ἀποπτύσαιμεν. Μὴ τοίνυν παρέργως ἀκούωμεν· οὐ γάρ ἐστιν, οὐκ ἔστιν οὐδὲν εὐχῆς δυνατώτερον, οὐδὲ ἴσον. Οὐχ οὕτως ἐστὶ βασιλεὺς λαμπρὸς ἁλουργίδα περιβεβλημένος, ὡς ὁ εὐχόμενος τῇ πρὸς τὸν Θεὸν ὁμιλίᾳ κοσμούμενος. Ὥσπερ γὰρ εἰ στρατοπέδου παρόντος, στρατηγῶν, ἀρχόντων, ὑπάτων πολλῶν, προσελθών τις κατ' ἰδίαν διαλεχθείη τῷ βασιλεῖ, τὰς πάντων ὄψεις ἐπιστρέφει πρὸς ἑαυτὸν, καὶ ταύτῃ σεμνότερος γίνεται· οὕτω δὴ καὶ ἐπὶ τῶν εὐχομένων γένοιτ' ἄν.
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7. I would have liked to go through the remaining causes as well, and to show from the facts themselves that, just as here he prayed while exposing the weakness of the flesh, so elsewhere again he corrects the weakness of his hearers. For one must not think that all the humble expressions were spoken only on account of the garment of the flesh, but also on account of the other causes I mentioned. But so that I may not overwhelm the multitude of what has been said with the abundance of what is about to be said, having stopped my discourse to them here, and postponing the rest to another day, I will turn again to an exhortation to prayer. For even if we have often spoken about this subject, still it is necessary to speak now. For just as among garments, some that have been dyed once have a fading dye, while those which the dyers dip and draw up many times and continuously preserve the bloom of the color immovable, so too does this happen with our souls. For when we hear the same words many times, receiving the teaching like a kind of dye, we would not easily spit it out. Therefore, let us not listen carelessly. For there is nothing, nothing more powerful than prayer, nor anything equal to it. A king clad in a purple robe is not so splendid as one who prays, adorned by his communion with God. For just as, if in the presence of an army, generals, rulers, and many consuls, someone were to approach and converse privately with the king, he would turn everyone's eyes toward himself and become more august by this, so too would it be with those who pray.
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Ἐννόησον γὰρ πηλίκον ἔσται ἀγγέλων παρόντων, ἀρχαγγέλων παρεστώτων, τῶν Σεραφὶμ, τῶν Χερουβὶμ, τῶν ἄλλων ἁπασῶν δυνάμεων, αὐτὸν ἄνθρωπον ὄντα μετὰ πολλῆς δύνασθαι προσιέναι τῆς παῤῥησίας, καὶ τῷ βασιλεῖ τῶν δυνάμεων ἐκείνων διαλέγεσθαι· πόσης τοῦτο οὐκ ἂν ἀντάξιον εἴη τιμῆς; Οὐ τιμὴ δὲ μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ ὠφέλεια μεγίστη γένοιτ' ἂν ἡμῖν ἀπὸ τῆς εὐχῆς, καὶ πρὶν ἢ λαβεῖν ὅπερ αἰτοῦμεν. Ὁμοῦ τε γάρ τις ἀνέτεινε τὰς χεῖρας εἰς τὸν οὐρανὸν, καὶ τὸν Θεὸν ἐκάλεσε, καὶ πάντων εὐθέως ἀπέστη τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων πραγμάτων, καὶ μετέστη τῇ διανοίᾳ πρὸς τὴν μέλλουσαν ζωὴν, καὶ τὰ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς φαντάζεται λοιπὸν, καὶ οὐδὲν πρὸς τὴν παροῦσαν ἔχει ζωὴν, κατὰ τὸν καιρὸν τῆς εὐχῆς, ἐὰν μετὰ ἀκριβείας εὔχηται· ἀλλὰ κἂν θυμὸς ἀναζέῃ, κοιμίζεται ῥᾳδίως, κἂν ἐπιθυμία φλέγῃ, σβέννυται, κἂν φθόνος τήκῃ, μετὰ πολλῆς τῆς εὐκολίας ἀπελαύνεται· καὶ τοῦτο γίνεται, ὅπερ ὁ προφήτης λέγει, ἀνίσχοντος τοῦ ἡλίου. Τί δὲ ἐκεῖνός φησιν; Ἔθου σκότος, καὶ ἐγένετο νύξ· ἐν αὐτῇ διελεύσεται πάντα τὰ θηρία τοῦ δρυμοῦ, σκύμνοι ὠρυόμενοι τοῦ ἁρπάσαι καὶ ζητῆσαι παρὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ βρῶσιν αὐτοῖς· ἀνέτειλεν ὁ ἥλιος, καὶ συνήχθησαν, καὶ εἰς τὰς μάνδρας αὐτῶν κοιτασθήσονται. Ὥσπερ οὖν τῆς ἀκτῖνος ἀνισχούσης πάντα φυγαδεύεται τὰ θηρία, καὶ πρὸς τοὺς φωλεοὺς τοὺς ἑαυτῶν καταδύεται· οὕτω δὴ τῆς εὐχῆς, ὥσπερ τινὸς ἀκτῖνος ἀπὸ τοῦ στόματος τοῦ ἡμετέρου καὶ τῆς γλώττης ἀναφανείσης, φωτίζεται μὲν ἡ διάνοια, πάντα δὲ τὰ ἄλογα καὶ θηριώδη πάθη δραπετεύει καὶ φυγαδεύεται, καὶ πρὸς
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Consider, then, how great a thing it will be, with angels present, archangels standing by, the Seraphim, the Cherubim, and all the other powers, that he, being a man, can approach with great confidence and converse with the king of those powers—of what honor would this not be worthy? And it is not only honor, but also the greatest benefit would come to us from prayer, even before we receive what we ask. For as soon as one stretches out his hands to heaven and calls upon God, he immediately withdraws from all human affairs, and his mind is transported to the future life, and he then imagines the things in the heavens, having no connection with the present life during the time of prayer, if he prays with precision. But even if anger boils up, it is easily calmed; if desire burns, it is extinguished; if envy consumes, it is driven away with great ease. And this happens, as the prophet says, when the sun rises. And what does he say? "You set darkness, and it became night; in it all the beasts of the forest will pass through, roaring cubs to seize and seek food from God for themselves. The sun rose, and they gathered together, and they will lie down in their folds." Just as, then, when the ray rises, all the beasts are put to flight and sink into their own lairs, so too, when prayer, like a kind of ray, appears from our mouth and tongue, the mind is illuminated, and all irrational and beastly passions flee and are put to flight, and
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τοὺς οἰκείους καταδύεται φωλεοὺς, μόνον ἂν μετὰ ἀκριβείας εὐχώμεθα, ἂν μετὰ ψυχῆς διεγηγερμένης καὶ διανοίας νηφούσης. Τότε κἂν διάβολος παρῇ φυγαδεύεται, κἂν δαίμων, ἀναχωρεῖ. Εἰ γὰρ οἰκέτῃ δεσπότου διαλεγομένου, οὐδεὶς ἂν τῶν συνδούλων, οὔτε τις τῶν παῤῥησίαν ἐχόντων προσελθεῖν τολμήσειε καὶ διενοχλῆσαι, πολλῷ μᾶλλον οὗτοι, τῶν προσκεκρουκότων ὄντες καὶ ἀπαῤῥησιάστων, οὐκ ἂν δυνηθεῖεν ἡμῖν ἐνοχλῆσαι τῷ Θεῷ διαλεγομένοις μετὰ τῆς προσηκούσης σπουδῆς. Εὐχὴ χειμαζομένων λιμὴν, κλυδωνιζομένων ἄγκυρα, σαλευομένων βακτηρία, πενήτων θησαυρὸς, πλουτούντων ἀσφάλεια, νοσημάτων ἀναίρεσις, ὑγιείας φυλακή· εὐχὴ καὶ τὰ ἀγαθὰ ἡμῖν ἀκίνητα διατηρεῖ, καὶ τὰ κακὰ μεταβάλλει ταχέως· κἂν πειρασμὸς ἐπέλθῃ, ῥᾳδίως ἀποκρούεται, κἂν ζημία χρημάτων, κἂν ὁτιοῦν ἕτερον τῶν λυπουμένων ἡμῶν τὴν ψυχὴν, ἅπαντα ἀπελαύνει ταχέως· εὐχὴ λύπης ἁπάσης φυγαδευτήριον, εὐθυμίας ὑπόθεσις, διηνεκοῦς ἡδονῆς ἀφορμὴ, φιλοσοφίας μήτηρ. Ὁ δυνάμενος εὔχεσθαι μετὰ ἀκριβείας, κἂν ἁπάντων πενέστερος ᾖ, πάντων ἐστὶ πλουσιώτερος· ὥσπερ ὁ τῆς εὐχῆς πάλιν ἐστερημένος, κἂν ἐν αὐτῷ καθέζηται τῷ θρόνῳ τῷ βασιλικῷ, πάντων ἐστὶ πενέστερος. Οὐχ ὁ Ἀχαὰβ βασιλεὺς ἦν, καὶ χρυσίον εἶχεν ἄφατον καὶ ἀργύριον; ἀλλ' ἐπειδὴ εὐχὴν οὐκ εἶχε, περιῄει Ἡλίαν ζητῶν, ἄνθρωπον οὐδὲ καταγώγιον ἔχοντα, οὐδὲ ἱμάτιον, ἀλλ' ἢ μηλωτὴν μόνην. Τί τοῦτο; εἰπέ μοι· ὁ τοσαύτας ἔχων ἀποθήκας τὸν οὐδὲν ἔχοντα ζητεῖς; Ναὶ, φησί. Τί γάρ μοι τῶν ταμείων ὄφελος, τούτου τὸν οὐρανὸν ἀποκλείσαντος, καὶ πάντα ἄχρηστα ἐργασαμένου; Εἶδες πῶς οὗτος εὐπορώτερος ἦν ἐκείνου;
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the Lord. If only we pray with precision, with an awakened soul and a sober mind. Then even if the devil is present, he is put to flight; even if a demon, he withdraws. For if, when a master converses with a servant, none of the fellow servants, nor any of those who have freedom of speech, would dare to approach and cause disturbance, much less would these, being offenders and without freedom of speech, be able to trouble us when we converse with God with the appropriate earnestness. Prayer is a harbor for the storm-tossed, an anchor for the tempest-tossed, a staff for the shaken, a treasure for the poor, security for the rich, a remedy for diseases, a guardian of health. Prayer both preserves our goods unmoved and quickly transforms evils. Even if a trial comes, it is easily repelled; even if a loss of money, or anything else that grieves our soul, all are quickly driven away. Prayer is a refuge from all grief, a foundation of cheerfulness, a source of continuous pleasure, a mother of philosophy. He who is able to pray with precision, even if he is the poorest of all, is richer than all. Just as he who is deprived of prayer, even if he sits on the royal throne itself, is the poorest of all. Was not Ahab king, and did he not have untold gold and silver? But since he had no prayer, he went about seeking Elijah, a man who had neither a dwelling nor a garment, but only a sheepskin. What is this? Tell me: do you, who have so many storehouses, seek the one who has nothing? Yes, he says. For what benefit are my treasuries to me, when he has closed the heavens and rendered everything useless? Do you see how that one was more prosperous than that one?
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Ἕως γὰρ οὗτος ἐφθέγξατο, ὁ βασιλεὺς ἦν ἐν πενίᾳ πολλῇ μετὰ τοῦ στρατοπέδου παντός. Ὢ τοῦ θαύματος, οὐδὲ ἱμάτιον εἶχε, καὶ τὸν οὐρανὸν ἀπέκλεισε. Δι' αὐτὸ μὲν οὖν τοῦτο ἀπέκλεισε τὸν οὐρανὸν, ἐπειδὴ ἱμάτιον, οὐκ εἶχεν· ἐπειδὴ οὐδὲν ἐνταῦθα ἐκέκτητο, διὰ τοῦτο πολλὴν τὴν δύναμιν ἐπεδείξατο· ἀνοίξας γὰρ τὰ χείλη μόνον, μυρίους ἐποίησεν ἄνωθεν κατενεχθῆναι θησαυροὺς ἀγαθῶν. Ὢ στόματος πηγὰς ὄμβρων ἔχοντος· ὢ γλώσσης νιφάδας ὑετῶν ἀφιείσης· ὢ φωνῆς μυρία ἀγαθὰ βρυούσης. Πρὸς δὴ τοῦτον ἀεὶ βλέποντες τὸν πένητα καὶ πλούσιον, τὸν διὰ τοῦτο πλούσιον, ἐπειδὴ πένης ἦν, ὑπερορῶμεν τῶν παρόντων, ἐπιθυμῶμεν τῶν μελλόντων. Οὕτω γὰρ καὶ τῶν ἐνταῦθα καὶ τῶν ἐκεῖ πάντων ἐπιτευξόμεθα ἀγαθῶν· ὧν γένοιτο πάντας ἡμᾶς ἐπιτυχεῖν, χάριτι καὶ φιλανθρωπίᾳ τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, μεθ' οὗ τῷ Πατρὶ δόξα, ἅμα τῷ ἁγίῳ Πνεύματι, νῦν καὶ ἀεὶ, καὶ εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων, Ἀμήν.
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For until he spoke, the king was in great poverty with his entire army. Oh, the wonder: he did not even have a garment, and he closed the heavens. It was precisely for this reason that he closed the heavens, because he had no garment; because he possessed nothing here, for this reason he displayed great power: for merely opening his lips, he caused countless treasures of goods to be brought down from above. Oh, mouth having springs of showers; oh, tongue sending forth flakes of rains; oh, voice teeming with countless goods. Always looking to this poor and rich man, who was rich because he was poor, let us disregard present things, let us desire future things. For in this way we will attain all goods, both here and there; may it be that we all attain them, by the grace and love for humanity of our Lord Jesus Christ, with whom glory to the Father, together with the Holy Spirit, now and always, and to the ages of ages, Amen.
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